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December 01, 2023, 07:08:00 PM
But that wouldn't create a surprise-the-world-effect at all when Manchester United wins that game. They are a mediocre Premier League team and Bayern Munich is qualified for the next round already. Would it be that surprising when Manchester United wins the game? If they manage to qualify for the next round, that would be a surprise because they would also need Copenhagen and Galatasaray to tie their game. But from what they have shown so far in the Champions League and in the Premier League, I think barely anyone hopes that they make it.
However, sometimes when playing against strong teams, Man United exceeds expectations, sometimes they can match or win. But who knows, in this UCL, especially if the opponent is Bayern. I personally still believe that Bayern will win. However, that doesn't mean underestimating Man United. Oh yes, apart from that, Man United's chance of qualifying for the next group is very small. One of the conditions is if Man United wins against Bayern, and on the other hand if Copenhagen vs Galatasaray ends in a draw. so Man United has that chance.

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December 01, 2023, 06:35:23 PM
It depends if Bayern decide to rest some of their stars as they are already group winners. Maybe they might want to give some players a rest. If that happens and Man Utd play the perfect game they could win.
It is very possible that Bayern Munich coach (Tuchel) sends some of their key players to the bench. Basically, the last match won't impact anything to their status, Bayern Munich will be the winner of group A whatever the result of the last match. I'm sure Tuchel will prefer to put substituted players for the lineup against Man United. However, it won't be an easy match although Bayern Munich will play with their substituted players.

Unfortunately for Man Utd it might not be enough, even if they were to win. If the other game has a winner then Man Utd are out. If Man Utd lose to Bayern they won’t even drop into the Europa League.
The match between Galatasaray and Copenhagen will be the key. Man United only has a chance to qualify if the match ends up with a draw. But if it doesn't end up with a draw, Man United has no chance to finish in 2nd place.

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December 01, 2023, 06:20:29 PM
I don't think is possible for Manchester United to qualify from there group because there point is quite low from other team but if they had improved on there performance earlier they would have win themselves to the third position on there table.

However there group match against Bayern Munich is quite impossible for them to win the match because Bayern Munich is very good on this season and they have won almost all there matches this season, but however even if Manchester United wins them there is still know chance of Manchester United to qualify because Galatasaray and Copenhagen will never play draw and any side that wins become the second position on the group.

Yes, it's a tight corner for Manchester united but the funny thing is that they got themselves in that position in the first place. If they'd just nailed that Galatasaray on Wednesday — I didn't expect them to blow their 0-2 lead and settle for a draw because they were coming into that game high-flying last weekend from a thrilling win so I expected more. In any case, I'd be welcoming Man Utd to the Europa league where my team, Liverpool is currently the top favorite to win the trophy this season. It'll be interesting to go head to head with this man utd team that looks more improved compared to last season.
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December 01, 2023, 05:49:02 PM
But the question is, will Manchester United be able to win against Munich?

It depends if Bayern decide to rest some of their stars as they are already group winners. Maybe they might want to give some players a rest. If that happens and Man Utd play the perfect game they could win.

Unfortunately for Man Utd it might not be enough, even if they were to win. If the other game has a winner then Man Utd are out. If Man Utd lose to Bayern they won’t even drop into the Europa League.
Even though Bayern Munich decided to play with their second-eleven, Manchester United will still not be able to win the match because Bayern Munich's second eleven can just be as strong as Galatasaray and Copenhagen's first eleven, which Manchester United failed to win. But if Manchester United pulls out a shock win against Bayern Munich, Manchester United will qualify for the European Cup if there is a win between Copenhagen and Galatasaray.

Mate don't say that to Manchester united even though they have not gotten the best results in the champions league so far they can still manage to surprise the world by beating Bayern Munich because Bayern Munich may decide not to take the match seriously. Regardless of what happened between Manchester united and Galatasaray, therw could be a change since we understand that football is full of uncertainty Manchester United can make out something against Bayern Munich while Galatasaray plays a draw with Copenhagen.

But that wouldn't create a surprise-the-world-effect at all when Manchester United wins that game. They are a mediocre Premier League team and Bayern Munich is qualified for the next round already. Would it be that surprising when Manchester United wins the game? If they manage to qualify for the next round, that would be a surprise because they would also need Copenhagen and Galatasaray to tie their game. But from what they have shown so far in the Champions League and in the Premier League, I think barely anyone hopes that they make it.
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December 01, 2023, 05:43:16 PM
But the question is, will Manchester United be able to win against Munich?

It depends if Bayern decide to rest some of their stars as they are already group winners. Maybe they might want to give some players a rest. If that happens and Man Utd play the perfect game they could win.

Unfortunately for Man Utd it might not be enough, even if they were to win. If the other game has a winner then Man Utd are out. If Man Utd lose to Bayern they won’t even drop into the Europa League.
Even though Bayern Munich decided to play with their second-eleven, Manchester United will still not be able to win the match because Bayern Munich's second eleven can just be as strong as Galatasaray and Copenhagen's first eleven, which Manchester United failed to win. But if Manchester United pulls out a shock win against Bayern Munich, Manchester United will qualify for the European Cup if there is a win between Copenhagen and Galatasaray.

Mate don't say that to Manchester united even though they have not gotten the best results in the champions league so far they can still manage to surprise the world by beating Bayern Munich because Bayern Munich may decide not to take the match seriously. Regardless of what happened between Manchester united and Galatasaray, therw could be a change since we understand that football is full of uncertainty Manchester United can make out something against Bayern Munich while Galatasaray plays a draw with Copenhagen.
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December 01, 2023, 05:29:50 PM
I have different opinion at the moment, Madrid and Man City are still favorites for everyone, but I really hope that Bayern Munich will be next team that will challenge the two favorite teams to see new history every season, not dominated by Real madrid or Man City alone and I say all this because I really see how the depth of Bayern Munich players is now more solid after the arrival of Kane Munich has become more consistent.

and for Man united it seems there is no hope of being in third place after a poor performance only ended in draw even though they had taken lead early and finally had to play against Bayern Munich who are one of the strongest teams in group A.
For this season, it looks like we will still see potential candidates consisting of the 4 strongest teams when looking at the depth of their squad, such as Inter Milan, Bayern munich, Real Madrid and also Manchester City. But one team that is most underestimated is Arsenal and I will make Arsenal my favorite team this season. So, this season, Arsenal, which is known as a team inhabited by many young players, is starting to appear impressive, whether in the Champions league or in the domestic league. where they are very strong and able to put a lot of pressure on the group they are in.

Saka et al will be able to bring many surprises in the round of 16 and this is the beginning of Arsenal return to true strength in the Champions League. Arteta is a great coach he has built an arsenal squad with young player and he can project in the long term. This season, Arsenal are very strong in group B, collecting 12 points and they can no longer be chased by the teams below them. The last match of the second leg didn't mean anything to them because Arsenal had already secured themselves as group winners.
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December 01, 2023, 05:20:54 PM
But the question is, will Manchester United be able to win against Munich?

It depends if Bayern decide to rest some of their stars as they are already group winners. Maybe they might want to give some players a rest. If that happens and Man Utd play the perfect game they could win.

Unfortunately for Man Utd it might not be enough, even if they were to win. If the other game has a winner then Man Utd are out. If Man Utd lose to Bayern they won’t even drop into the Europa League.
Even though Bayern Munich decided to play with their second-eleven, Manchester United will still not be able to win the match because Bayern Munich's second eleven can just be as strong as Galatasaray and Copenhagen's first eleven, which Manchester United failed to win. But if Manchester United pulls out a shock win against Bayern Munich, Manchester United will qualify for the European Cup if there is a win between Copenhagen and Galatasaray.
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December 01, 2023, 05:16:01 PM
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It depends if Bayern decide to rest some of their stars as they are already group winners. Maybe they might want to give some players a rest. If that happens and Man Utd play the perfect game they could win.

Unfortunately for Man Utd it might not be enough, even if they were to win. If the other game has a winner then Man Utd are out. If Man Utd lose to Bayern they won’t even drop into the Europa League.
You are right, apart from winning the match, Manchester United must hope for Copenhagen and Galatasaray to draw. If that happens, then Manchester United will qualify for the round of 16. The problem is that this is the toughest scenario for Manchester United because all teams have their own missions. In fact I believe Galatasaray could possibly win the match against Copenhagen rather than loss or draw.

It is difficult to predict such a match because one of the 3 teams still has hope of qualifying. Maybe it would be a good thing for Manchester United to win the match regardless of the result of the Copenhagen vs Galatasaray match, at least it could open up good hopes for them.

Maybe in the last season of the Champions League, nobody could even imagine seeing steam like Copenhagen or Galatasaray get these results in this tournament while racing with many strong teams but this time they are lucky enough to be in the same group as Manchester United while they are not in the god form and that's why there is a high chance for both Galatasaray and Copenhagen to pass this stage.
 
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It depends if Bayern decide to rest some of their stars as they are already group winners. Maybe they might want to give some players a rest. If that happens and Man Utd play the perfect game they could win.

Unfortunately for Man Utd it might not be enough, even if they were to win. If the other game has a winner then Man Utd are out. If Man Utd lose to Bayern they won’t even drop into the Europa League.
You are right, apart from winning the match, Manchester United must hope for Copenhagen and Galatasaray to draw. If that happens, then Manchester United will qualify for the round of 16. The problem is that this is the toughest scenario for Manchester United because all teams have their own missions. In fact I believe Galatasaray could possibly win the match against Copenhagen rather than loss or draw.

It is difficult to predict such a match because one of the 3 teams still has hope of qualifying. Maybe it would be a good thing for Manchester United to win the match regardless of the result of the Copenhagen vs Galatasaray match, at least it could open up good hopes for them.
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December 01, 2023, 04:08:50 PM
Manchester United should forget about qualifying for the last 16 of the Uefa Champions League and focus on their Premier League matches because they have a big test to beat Bayern Munich on match day 6, which will be difficult for them to achieve. Onana will be another reason why Manchester United can not defeat Bayern Munich because of his errors.
I think that is true because there is no way Manchester United can beat Bayern Munich in the remaining matches. They should be aware that their chances are over after the draw against Galatasaray and they will have to go home early in the competition. Andre Onana was a failed purchase and Inter are very happy to be doing business with Manchester United.

A team like Manchester United in this situation should not even think about racing with others like Bayern Munich in the Champions League with the current situation they have in this team and I think they're better off saving some potential for the remaining game in the premier league to move their pale in the league where they can have much better hope and better performance.
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December 01, 2023, 04:01:18 PM
Manchester United should forget about qualifying for the last 16 of the Uefa Champions League and focus on their Premier League matches because they have a big test to beat Bayern Munich on match day 6, which will be difficult for them to achieve. Onana will be another reason why Manchester United can not defeat Bayern Munich because of his errors.
It will be difficult to win Bayern Munich but it's aswell not impossible to win Bayern Munich so we can't be too sure till the game is actually over. It's true that on paper Bayern is the favourite and has got more edge then the red devils but then I think there's still a way out.

If Bayern Munich decides to try out their rotational squad because the outcome of this game has got no effect on them a they have successfully secured their spot at the round of sixteen already, in a case such as this were Bayern Munich decides to try out something in this light, Manchester united may get a chance at it because they may most likely have an edge a they will be playing at old Trafford so all this could possibly create a chance for Manchester united.
It seems to me that Manchester United cannot afford to give up on the UCL as their chances to make it to the next round are not as bad as it may seem, Bayern has already qualified and it makes not much difference for them if they win the match or not, so I think it is a given Bayern will give the chance to some of the players on their bench to see the field, and this could give Manchester United enough of an edge to get the win, and if Copenhagen and Galatasaray tie on their match then Manchester United will make it to the next round.
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December 01, 2023, 03:22:19 PM
Manchester United should forget about qualifying for the last 16 of the Uefa Champions League and focus on their Premier League matches because they have a big test to beat Bayern Munich on match day 6, which will be difficult for them to achieve. Onana will be another reason why Manchester United can not defeat Bayern Munich because of his errors.
It will be difficult to win Bayern Munich but it's aswell not impossible to win Bayern Munich so we can't be too sure till the game is actually over. It's true that on paper Bayern is the favourite and has got more edge then the red devils but then I think there's still a way out.

If Bayern Munich decides to try out their rotational squad because the outcome of this game has got no effect on them a they have successfully secured their spot at the round of sixteen already, in a case such as this were Bayern Munich decides to try out something in this light, Manchester united may get a chance at it because they may most likely have an edge a they will be playing at old Trafford so all this could possibly create a chance for Manchester united.
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December 01, 2023, 03:20:34 PM
Manchester United should forget about qualifying for the last 16 of the Uefa Champions League and focus on their Premier League matches because they have a big test to beat Bayern Munich on match day 6, which will be difficult for them to achieve. Onana will be another reason why Manchester United can not defeat Bayern Munich because of his errors.
Manchester United dissapointed the fans who expected some incredible performance but they couldn't hold on to the normal standard levels. UEFA Champions League matches are prioritized for important clubs that have ambition to reach the significant stages in major tournaments. Perhapes, you shouldn't conclude all the outcomes, all hope are not lost because there are still a game for Manchester United and its against Bayern Munich at Old Trafford. Erik Ten Hag will prepare his men for the big game ahead and he won't feel reluctant when playing against such elite teams.
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December 01, 2023, 03:10:58 PM
Manchester United should forget about qualifying for the last 16 of the Uefa Champions League and focus on their Premier League matches because they have a big test to beat Bayern Munich on match day 6, which will be difficult for them to achieve. Onana will be another reason why Manchester United can not defeat Bayern Munich because of his errors.
I think that is true because there is no way Manchester United can beat Bayern Munich in the remaining matches. They should be aware that their chances are over after the draw against Galatasaray and they will have to go home early in the competition. Andre Onana was a failed purchase and Inter are very happy to be doing business with Manchester United.
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December 01, 2023, 03:09:18 PM
Manchester United won't be able to qualify, even though the possibility is small, they are not really ready to be in the UCL this season, they still have a lot to improve in their squad because in my opinion they should focus more on the EPL and improve their position so they don't get worse. in the domestic league, they can still have the opportunity to get another UCL ticket next season.

Of course they need more time to overhaul everything to make it better next season, I'm also not sure from the start they can qualify from the group because it looks like there are a lot of things they are not ready to face in the UCL this season, whatever it is, Manchester United still needs to learn a lot more. much more from every defeat they experience and improve it afterwards to become a better team.
The scenario is that if Man United wants to qualify, they must win against Bayern Munich while hoping that Galatasary will draw against Copenhagen. If they win against Munich, MU's points will be 7, whereas if Copenhagen draws against Galatasaray their points will both be 6.

If you win against Bayern Munich, but in the Galatasaray vs Copenhagen match, someone wins, they will qualify for the UEL, for example Man United wins against Munich with 7 points, whereas if Copenhagen wins against Galatasaray the points will be 8 so those who qualify for the last 16 will be Bayern Munich and Copenhagen while Man United will have 7 points. Finish 3rd which means welcome to UEL.

But the question is, will Manchester United be able to win against Munich?

There's no better way to ask the question! Manchester United will need a miracle to win against Bayern Munich. It's football and anything can happen but Manchester United would find it difficult even of Bayern Munich have qualified completely for the knockouts.
But personally I double doubt they'll be taking the chances they have when they could not when they was leading three goals to one against Galatasaray.

Galatasaray versus Copenhagen must have a winner at the end of that game believe me. With the way Galatasaray approached Manchester United, they could do same against Copenhagen who had a point to share during the first game in the month of September.
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December 01, 2023, 03:08:43 PM
But the question is, will Manchester United be able to win against Munich?

It depends if Bayern decide to rest some of their stars as they are already group winners. Maybe they might want to give some players a rest. If that happens and Man Utd play the perfect game they could win.

Unfortunately for Man Utd it might not be enough, even if they were to win. If the other game has a winner then Man Utd are out. If Man Utd lose to Bayern they won’t even drop into the Europa League.
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Manchester United are in bad form in the Champions League. Manchester United is far behind every other team in the points table.  Manchester United drew in the last match in the Champions League. Even after getting a point in the last match, they could not move to a good position in the points table. A tough opponent awaits Manchester United in the Champions League. Manchester United is definitely a strong opponent for Bayern Munich. 

Manchester United scored a goal in the last match but they couldn't resist the opposition's goal. Manchester United's goalkeeper made some common mistakes due to which Manchester United created a chance to win but could not win. A win against Bayern Munich is tough but Manchester United must play for 3 points against Bayern Munich or their Champions League dreams may end in the group stage.
They are not firing erik tan hag and they must know something that means a greater future for them if he is not fired right now. I understand that they are building a system and it's the growing pains right now, ETH came in last season if I am not wrong and did alright to be fair, they were third and they are in UCL because of that, which means that they have seen one great season from him, taking a team that was terrible a year before, in europa really, and doing horrible at league, and took them to third place and UCL as well.

So they are giving him more time, making him prove that he is not worth of firing, but I also think that he is shown enough and he should be fired, a team like United deserves a world class manager, someone like Ancellotti.
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Manchester United is making things difficult for themselves even though they are in a relatively easy group, only Bayern Munich is a team that is difficult for Manchester United to surpass, at least they can secure second place more quickly if they are able to maintain their performance like last season.
If we consider the squad quality, Man United should finish in the second place at least. It is true that Bayern Munich is the only strong team in group A, meanwhile Galatasaray and Copenhagen are weaker than Man United. However, football isn't only about squad quality but it is about teamwork and tactic (strategy). Unfortunately, Galatasaray and Copenhagen can play more solidly as a team. They also choose better tactics than what Ten Hag applies to Man United team. So, they can get better results so far.

MU fans will also not remain silent about the conditions experienced by their favorite team limping in the UCL, they will voice Ten Hag's dismissal for failing to meet the expectations of all parties.
MU fans already feel disappointed since the previous year. Although Man United could finish in the 3rd place, Ten Hag has some controversial issues with some players. Ronaldo's departure, eliminating Sancho from the main lineup, loaning Weghorst, pointing Maguire as a captain, and signing Onana are some of the issues related to Ten Hag. In some cases, Ten Hag seems to deal with improper decision. So, we can understand if MU fans voice to fire Ten Hag.

As a result of wasting the opportunity that was before their eyes when they visited Galatasaray headquarters, now their chance of qualifying for the knockout rounds is very small. Galatasaray and Copenhagen will try to find a way to accompany Bayern Munich to the round of 16.
Man United only has a hope that Bayern Munich gives them chance to win the last match. And the match Galatasaray vs Copenhagen will end up with a draw. This is the only way they will qualify for the next round. I also think it is a very small chance because Bayern Munich is a stronger opponent. Although Bayern Munich already qualified but they must try to win the last match because they don't want to make their fans to feel disappointed.

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Manchester United won't be able to qualify, even though the possibility is small, they are not really ready to be in the UCL this season, they still have a lot to improve in their squad because in my opinion they should focus more on the EPL and improve their position so they don't get worse. in the domestic league, they can still have the opportunity to get another UCL ticket next season.

Of course they need more time to overhaul everything to make it better next season, I'm also not sure from the start they can qualify from the group because it looks like there are a lot of things they are not ready to face in the UCL this season, whatever it is, Manchester United still needs to learn a lot more. much more from every defeat they experience and improve it afterwards to become a better team.
The scenario is that if Man United wants to qualify, they must win against Bayern Munich while hoping that Galatasary will draw against Copenhagen. If they win against Munich, MU's points will be 7, whereas if Copenhagen draws against Galatasaray their points will both be 6.

If you win against Bayern Munich, but in the Galatasaray vs Copenhagen match, someone wins, they will qualify for the UEL, for example Man United wins against Munich with 7 points, whereas if Copenhagen wins against Galatasaray the points will be 8 so those who qualify for the last 16 will be Bayern Munich and Copenhagen while Man United will have 7 points. Finish 3rd which means welcome to UEL.

But the question is, will Manchester United be able to win against Munich?
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December 01, 2023, 01:42:06 PM
There's not much more I want to say about Manchester United, in fact they are very likely to fail in the Champions League. The match against Bayern Munich is very tough, it is even very possible that Manchester United will not be able to take advantage of home advantage to beat Bayern Munich. I know they have a chance, but I really doubt it because apart from winning the match against Bayern Munich, Manchester United also really depends on the result of Copenhagen's match against Galatasaray.

The most realistic target for Manchester United is to qualify for the Europa League if they are able to beat Bayern Munich, but if Copenhagen and Galatasaray draw then that is a big bonus for Manchester United because they can qualify for the last 16. A scenario like this is difficult, but there is a possibility especially as Copenhagen and Galatasaray both want to win the game too.

Therefore, it is better for us to just enjoy the match moments that will be presented in this group A phase. in fact, we don't know what the outcome will be. and what is certain, Manchester United will play all out to achieve what they hope for. and play as well as possible, based on their abilities in the matchday of the last six group stages of the Champions League. At the very least, the encouragement to play in front of the public itself will provide encouragement and motivation to perform at full performance. win or lose, we will find out soon. as well as, fail or pass.

In the other match, Copenhagen vs Galatasaray, both will play their best to determine their fate towards the next round. If this match ends in a draw, it means that both Copenhagen and Galatasaray only win 1 point. thus, they scored 6 points. and if a miracle comes to Manchester United and they are able to overthrow Bayern, then they will have 7 points. This means that United has the right to accompany Bayern Munich to the next phase. It's important for us to remember, even though the chance is very slim. but in football it is unique. one small mistake, can have fatal consequences for the team as a whole. So, there's no harm in just waiting to see how the matches on matchday six of the Champions League group phase will be. because for me, an exciting battle will be presented in that match.
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