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Quote from: Richbased on November 01, 2023, 01:46:17 PM

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Sure, no need qualifying for round of 16 when they can't even make any difference so the best is just give it up and go to the Europa league and try if there can be any improvement.

I think Manchester united isn't in their best form currently, but however the most important thing in football is to keep pushing irrespective of the loses being recorded as some things qualifying for the next round can also boost the players morale and confidence so Manchester united should just give their best if it works out for them fine if it doesn't work out too the move on.

Exactly. If clubs give up in football, then I think Chelsea would have given up since last season, but since there is always hope in everything we do, there is no need for Manchester United to slack. They should try; they may score another match that will luckily bring back their performances as they were before; if not, they are not currently in good form. And I like how Manchester United are still managing their performance to see them play well in some matches even though they won’t score, but there are some matches where they dominate their efforts, but since they're in better form, it doesn’t go as wanted.

However, do you think going to the European League will make them improve? I don’t think so because if they are able to improve, why can’t they do that in another league? I think they should just continue going like this; they will surely get their performance back to where it was before by putting in more effort to their matches, if not because the club is currently experiencing a hard time.

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Quote from: hahay on November 01, 2023, 01:11:38 PM

Qualifying for the round of 16 is actually not important for a team that is not in good form, as is currently experienced by Manchester United. Because of course, even if for example Manchester United qualify for the last 16, in reality Manchester United will fall there. Therefore, I think qualifying for the round of 16 for Manchester United at this moment is not very important and ya, even if for example Manchester United fails to qualify for the round of 16, of course Manchester United will continue to the Europa League. For me it's not bad at all because after all, this is Erik ten Hag second season at Manchester United, but his first season in the Champions League with Manchester United and that's not something bad at all.

Sure, no need qualifying for round of 16 when they can't even make any difference so the best is just give it up and go to the Europa league and try if there can be any improvement.

I think Manchester united isn't in their best form currently, but however the most important thing in football is to keep pushing irrespective of the loses being recorded as some things qualifying for the next round can also boost the players morale and confidence so Manchester united should just give their best if it works out for them fine if it doesn't work out too the move on.

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Quote from: zaim7413 on November 01, 2023, 07:12:41 AM

Weaknesses and inconsistency in maintaining their performance in the Champions League and Premier League have made many people doubt Manchester United chances. In material terms, the players that Manchester United has may be superior to Galatasaray, but overall and in terms of team unity, Galatasaray is more solid than Manchester United. Manchester United opened up opportunities after beating Copenhagen, while in other matches Galatasaray had to recognize Bayern Munich's superiority.

Manchester United must manage to collect several more points by winning the remaining matches, including when they meet Galatasaray in the second leg. I'm not sure Manchester United can wipe out all the matches with a win considering their current performance, but nothing is impossible if Manchester United players are able to motivate themselves to bring the team they are playing for through to the next round.

Honestly, they have absolutely no other choice but to have two more wins. Galatasaray will lose to Bayern as well, and United will lose to them too, that is definitely not a question at all. However, if United beats both Copenhagen and Galatasaray, that's 6 points, which they should be able to, and they would be 9 points. In that case, even if Galatasaray beats Copenhagen, they will be at 7 points. So all in all, if United gets the two wins they should be able to get, then they will be fine.

However, if United gets even a single tie in those games, then it's game over for them give or take, depends on other teams too of course but it would put them at great risk. Galatasaray has a bigger chance at this point, they will play at home and all they need is a tie, if they get a tie and then beat Copenhagen, they will be doing quite well and won't be an issue for them and be second. That is definitely possible for them with the roster they built this season.

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Quote from: imamusma on November 01, 2023, 08:35:24 AM

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There is no chance to underestimate the Manchester United team. They are undoubtedly stronger than Galatasaray. However, Manchester United's performance this season is very weak. Not only are they performing poorly in the Champions League, the team's performance in the Premier League is even worse. Manchester United failed to win against Galatasaray at home. They have lost two out of three matches. They got a narrow 1-0 win against Copenhagen in the last match. I don't think Manchester United will win against Galatasaray with such a poor performance. Galatasaray's players will be confident in the home match. I will say the match will be a draw or Galatasaray will win. I don't consider Manchester United as favourites.

Weaknesses and inconsistency in maintaining their performance in the Champions League and Premier League have made many people doubt Manchester United chances. In material terms, the players that Manchester United has may be superior to Galatasaray, but overall and in terms of team unity, Galatasaray is more solid than Manchester United. Manchester United opened up opportunities after beating Copenhagen, while in other matches Galatasaray had to recognize Bayern Munich's superiority.

Manchester United must manage to collect several more points by winning the remaining matches, including when they meet Galatasaray in the second leg. I'm not sure Manchester United can wipe out all the matches with a win considering their current performance, but nothing is impossible if Manchester United players are able to motivate themselves to bring the team they are playing for through to the next round.

Everyone agrees that Manchester United is one of the big clubs, and has a long history in the European Champions League. However, this is not enough to make United qualify from the group phase to the last 16, Ten Hag squad must work hard to realize their ambitions if they don't want to be thrown into the Europa League if they finish in third place. We have seen that Bruno and his friends were able to overcome Copenhagen in the first leg, and they lost when they met Galatasaray and Munchen. I think the maximum points The Red Devils can get in the remaining three matches is 6, win over Copenhagen and Galatasaray, when they meet Munchen I'm not so sure United will be able to secure full points.

On the other hand, The Reds Devils chances of qualifying really depend on Galatasaray performance in their three matches. Ten Hag has to think carefully about the match ahead, if he makes another wrong move he could lose his job. His quality will be questioned if he fails to get his squad through the group phase, and his credibility will decrease drastically.

Manchester United that have being struggling for over the last two seasons in both the champions League and the Premier Leagues even with their long history of success in both leagues in the past, the recent poor performances have indeed greatly affected the overall position of Manchester United this season, but then also, is not within reach if the team can work extra hard to making sure that they deliver in most of the matches because that the only way they will be able to recover their lost glory.

This indeed calls for a lot of hard work by the new coach Teg Hang because it won't be an easy walkthrough for that success he must double his current efforts and also make plans for sustained teamwork, that brings more cooperative match results for the club since most of the new players are not really been used to each other before now, and I believe that Manchester United will have some positive things going for them in this championships season.

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Quote from: Coyster on November 01, 2023, 09:14:01 AM

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Manchester United won the match against Copenhagen I would say by mistake. Their performance was not good. Manchester United's performance was poor in this match as well. Manchester United would not have won this match if Copenhagen player Jordan Lorsson had not missed the penalty.

Mamchester United have been very far from their best, but all they needed in that game was a win, irrespective of how 'ugly' the win was, United are having a very poor run in both the EPL and CL and that has affected their confidence so much. Erik Ten Hag knows that elimination from the group stage of the CL would be a disaster and so United has to win at least two out of their remaining three matches, they have to beat Copenhagen in their next game and the decider could be their clash with Galatasaray, they are in a very difficult group and they could possibly be eliminated.

Qualifying for the round of 16 is actually not important for a team that is not in good form, as is currently experienced by Manchester United. Because of course, even if for example Manchester United qualify for the last 16, in reality Manchester United will fall there. Therefore, I think qualifying for the round of 16 for Manchester United at this moment is not very important and ya, even if for example Manchester United fails to qualify for the round of 16, of course Manchester United will continue to the Europa League. For me it's not bad at all because after all, this is Erik ten Hag second season at Manchester United, but his first season in the Champions League with Manchester United and that's not something bad at all.

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Quote from: hahay on November 01, 2023, 11:10:05 AM

Even though Manchester United is experiencing a difficult situation at this moment but still, because Manchester United and Galatasaray can still compete to finish in second place because they only have a one point gap at this moment. So yes, for me, with these factors, at least Manchester United still has a chance of qualifying for the round of 16 with the status of runner up in the group. Anyway, I personally cannot underestimate Manchester United at this moment, because basically they have better quality than Galatasaray, and Manchester United should be able to rise to qualify for the round of 16 as well.

Manchester united and Galatasaray will compete for the second spot in group A table. Bayern Munich have accumulated the desirable number of points and they will easily pass qualify for the next phase. Where we have problem is Manchester United, Galatasaray and Copenhagen, which of these teams will make it to the second spot. It's not going to be easy game that will be play, because these three mention clubs are very competitive towards each other. But I strongly believe United will follow the footsteps of Bayern Munich and qualify, they have good chances.

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Quote from: shinratensei_ on November 01, 2023, 12:27:19 PM

Quote from: masulum on November 01, 2023, 10:13:19 AM

It is difficult to say that MU has a chance to go to the next phase. And, this is normal because the club's situation is in a dire condition. I just thought, how come it took a time for so long to escape the memories with Fergie. Because since that era ended, MU is no longer the red devil. Because MU is no longer a club that its rivals fear.

MU has only its last chance. Unable to win against copenhagen will make manchester united will not be ablt to go to the knock out round. Im thinking copenhagen will be also trying to win against manchester united.
It will be so bad if copenhagen will be missing its last chance to get into the second spot. The position of manchester united is not yet clear at this moment. Copenhagen and galatasaray would win it easily.

Im still doubting united at this moment. It's likely that if united will win with narrow score agains copenhagen like the previous match.

If Man United has the ambition to secure a ticket to the round of 16, then the matches against Copenhagen and Galatasaray must be won, another against Bayern Munchen, if winning is very difficult, then it is enough to play a draw. I think if the opposite happens then their chances are very difficult, and really depend on the results of Galtasaray and Copenhagen, while Munchen remains untouchable it seems.

The crushing 3-0 defeat to Man City in Week 10 of the EPL must be immediately forgotten, and focus on the next match while improving the situation. Even though it is difficult, Ten Hag only hope of not being fired is to try to get United into the last 16 of the UCL. If he doesn't succeed, I think management will kick him out of Old Trafford.

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After seeing Newcastle struggle against Dortmund that much I also think they will have a hard time reaching next round in the Champions League. They had this difficulty even in their home stadium I mean. I'm not sure if they have learned their lesson to retaliate Dortmund in Germany next time. They had better do so if they want to see later rounds.

I feel like Newcastle can get at least one point against PSG (maybe) and Milan if we don't see a big change in those teams. Newcastle demolished PSG as you can remember and resisted Milan in San Siro really great.

PSG are much stronger in home matches though so that's why there is a maybe there.

In terms of scoring chances, the game with Dortmund was not as bad as the result. This time the random was on the side of Dortmund, but it is not a fact that it will be on the side of Dortmund in Dortmund. I think in the next round PSG will defeat Milan and, one might say, guarantees (at least dramatically increases the chances) a place in the 1/8. Thus, in the last game of the group stage for Newcastle, they will have to beat demotivated Milan at home. And take at least 3 points in one of the away games - against Dortmund or PSG. This is quite real.

When it comes to PSG to defeat Milan away I can't be much confident about that despite the look of the points in the group now. Because there are some pieces of the puzzle to piece together. One of them is that Milan were really effective against Newcastle in San Siro. They were in full control but couldn't finish any of their chances with a goal.

But maybe their luck can turn against PSG if they show a similar performance again. The other piece is that PSG lost hard to Newcastle away as I said before. PSG were really desperate against a team playing home really strongly.

If Milan also play as solid as Newcastle home then PSG might have big difficulties once again. They are already not a very consistent team. But this is only my thinking for this matchup so we will see.

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Quote from: masulum on November 01, 2023, 10:13:19 AM

It is difficult to say that MU has a chance to go to the next phase. And, this is normal because the club's situation is in a dire condition. I just thought, how come it took a time for so long to escape the memories with Fergie. Because since that era ended, MU is no longer the red devil. Because MU is no longer a club that its rivals fear.

MU has only its last chance. Unable to win against copenhagen will make manchester united will not be ablt to go to the knock out round. Im thinking copenhagen will be also trying to win against manchester united.
It will be so bad if copenhagen will be missing its last chance to get into the second spot. The position of manchester united is not yet clear at this moment. Copenhagen and galatasaray would win it easily.

Im still doubting united at this moment. It's likely that if united will win with narrow score agains copenhagen like the previous match.

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There is no chance to underestimate the Manchester United team. They are undoubtedly stronger than Galatasaray. However, Manchester United's performance this season is very weak. Not only are they performing poorly in the Champions League, the team's performance in the Premier League is even worse. Manchester United failed to win against Galatasaray at home. They have lost two out of three matches. They got a narrow 1-0 win against Copenhagen in the last match. I don't think Manchester United will win against Galatasaray with such a poor performance. Galatasaray's players will be confident in the home match. I will say the match will be a draw or Galatasaray will win. I don't consider Manchester United as favourites.

Weaknesses and inconsistency in maintaining their performance in the Champions League and Premier League have made many people doubt Manchester United chances. In material terms, the players that Manchester United has may be superior to Galatasaray, but overall and in terms of team unity, Galatasaray is more solid than Manchester United. Manchester United opened up opportunities after beating Copenhagen, while in other matches Galatasaray had to recognize Bayern Munich's superiority.

Manchester United must manage to collect several more points by winning the remaining matches, including when they meet Galatasaray in the second leg. I'm not sure Manchester United can wipe out all the matches with a win considering their current performance, but nothing is impossible if Manchester United players are able to motivate themselves to bring the team they are playing for through to the next round.

Everyone agrees that Manchester United is one of the big clubs, and has a long history in the European Champions League. However, this is not enough to make United qualify from the group phase to the last 16, Ten Hag squad must work hard to realize their ambitions if they don't want to be thrown into the Europa League if they finish in third place. We have seen that Bruno and his friends were able to overcome Copenhagen in the first leg, and they lost when they met Galatasaray and Munchen. I think the maximum points The Red Devils can get in the remaining three matches is 6, win over Copenhagen and Galatasaray, when they meet Munchen I'm not so sure United will be able to secure full points.

On the other hand, The Reds Devils chances of qualifying really depend on Galatasaray performance in their three matches. Ten Hag has to think carefully about the match ahead, if he makes another wrong move he could lose his job. His quality will be questioned if he fails to get his squad through the group phase, and his credibility will decrease drastically.

I would say Manchester United's performance is unlikely to improve before the winter transfer window. Ten Hag should not put Hojlund in Manchester United's front line. Having such inexperienced players in the front line has a negative effect on the overall performance of the team. The United team usually plays in a 4-2-3-1 formation. Hojlund is at the centre of the attack. And Hojlund missed plenty of easy chances. And therefore, if an experienced striker is not added to the squad as a replacement for Hojlund, Manchester United's performance will remain weak. Ten Hag should quickly change their formation if they cannot add a new experienced striker to the squad. Hojlund should not be placed in the center of the attack at all. He has yet to score a single goal.

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We also have to be realistic in seeing or predicting what will happen, Manchester United is not inconsistent, but indeed the Manchester United team has not found its best performance, in UCL matches and in Premier League matches the Manchester United team has not played well since the start of the season.

If you look at what is happening with the Manchester United team at the moment then I speculate that Manchester United has a smaller chance of getting through the group phase than Galatasaray, indeed nothing is impossible in football but their chances are small because they can't find anything. their best performance and many of Manchester United's main players are still injured, so in my opinion there is no way for them to recover in the near future.

It is indeed very reasonable for Manchester United to have a small chance of qualifying for the next round if we look at Manchester United's appearance and performance in several matches at the start of this season in two different competitions. But on the one hand, I am also quite sure that Manchester United will continue to try as hard as possible with players who are still healthy to qualify for the next round, although I also don't think that Manchester United will go further in the Champions League this season.

The upcoming scenario for Manchester United's match in the champions league, next week of course it will face Copenhagen as away, well here at least Man United must be able to take advantage of the opportunity to win in order to qualify because it is certain on paper between the Bayern vs Galatasaray match it will be won by Bayern because we see in terms of the quality of the game.

Now after Man United can win over Copenhagen then in the next session against Galatasaray here is the determinant of Man United if they reply to another victory it will certainly win and qualify with Bayern Munich, I think that is the key to Man United's victory if they want to qualify.

What many people question is how Man United can be consistent to that extent, we still think that Erik Ten Hag should be able to do it.

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Quote from: masulum on November 01, 2023, 10:13:19 AM

It is difficult to say that MU has a chance to go to the next phase. And, this is normal because the club's situation is in a dire condition. I just thought, how come it took a time for so long to escape the memories with Fergie. Because since that era ended, MU is no longer the red devil. Because MU is no longer a club that its rivals fear.

Even though Manchester United is experiencing a difficult situation at this moment but still, because Manchester United and Galatasaray can still compete to finish in second place because they only have a one point gap at this moment. So yes, for me, with these factors, at least Manchester United still has a chance of qualifying for the round of 16 with the status of runner up in the group. Anyway, I personally cannot underestimate Manchester United at this moment, because basically they have better quality than Galatasaray, and Manchester United should be able to rise to qualify for the round of 16 as well.

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Quote from: uswa56 on November 01, 2023, 08:54:31 AM

We also have to be realistic in seeing or predicting what will happen, Manchester United is not inconsistent, but indeed the Manchester United team has not found its best performance, in UCL matches and in Premier League matches the Manchester United team has not played well since the start of the season.

If you look at what is happening with the Manchester United team at the moment then I speculate that Manchester United has a smaller chance of getting through the group phase than Galatasaray, indeed nothing is impossible in football but their chances are small because they can't find anything. their best performance and many of Manchester United's main players are still injured, so in my opinion there is no way for them to recover in the near future.

It is indeed very reasonable for Manchester United to have a small chance of qualifying for the next round if we look at Manchester United's appearance and performance in several matches at the start of this season in two different competitions. But on the one hand, I am also quite sure that Manchester United will continue to try as hard as possible with players who are still healthy to qualify for the next round, although I also don't think that Manchester United will go further in the Champions League this season.

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Manchester United won the match against Copenhagen I would say by mistake. Their performance was not good. Manchester United's performance was poor in this match as well. Manchester United would not have won this match if Copenhagen player Jordan Lorsson had not missed the penalty.

Mamchester United have been very far from their best, but all they needed in that game was a win, irrespective of how 'ugly' the win was, United are having a very poor run in both the EPL and CL and that has affected their confidence so much. Erik Ten Hag knows that elimination from the group stage of the CL would be a disaster and so United has to win at least two out of their remaining three matches, they have to beat Copenhagen in their next game and the decider could be their clash with Galatasaray, they are in a very difficult group and they could possibly be eliminated.

Yes this season is a nightmare for Ten Hag's squad, whether it's in the EPL or CL, nothing is better. Honestly, I also don't care how bad their performance will be in the next match, of course the main focus is to win the match in the next match against Copenhagen at all costs. If only in this match they again swallowed the bitter pill by returning home without winning any points then we have confirmed that there is nothing extraordinary and promising from Manchester United this season, in the two EPL leagues and CL maybe they will only be ashes without any achievement..

Ten Hag must think of something to prepare for the next match against Copenhagen, there is no reason not to maximize and take advantage of any opportunity they have on the pitch, not only that, it may be true that the determination is in the match against Galatasaray later. I thiink this is the last chance for Ten Hag, so I hope he can plan something not to waste the opportunity of three full points in order to qualify in group A.

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Quote from: Coyster on November 01, 2023, 09:14:01 AM

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Manchester United won the match against Copenhagen I would say by mistake. Their performance was not good. Manchester United's performance was poor in this match as well. Manchester United would not have won this match if Copenhagen player Jordan Lorsson had not missed the penalty.

Mamchester United have been very far from their best, but all they needed in that game was a win, irrespective of how 'ugly' the win was, United are having a very poor run in both the EPL and CL and that has affected their confidence so much. Erik Ten Hag knows that elimination from the group stage of the CL would be a disaster and so United has to win at least two out of their remaining three matches, they have to beat Copenhagen in their next game and the decider could be their clash with Galatasaray, they are in a very difficult group and they could possibly be eliminated.

I don't think Manchester United's players have gained confidence from this win. Because they lost 3-0 against Manchester City in the next match. More importantly, Manchester United lost 3-0 and the performance of Manchester United's players was poor as usual. They had a terrible performance in the home match, City players managed to score three goals but United could not score one. They conceded three goals despite playing defensively in this match. Manchester United players probably had 7 shots in the entire match. Manchester United will play an away match against Copenhagen in the last match of the Champions League. I think United will lose this match or the match will be a draw.

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Quote from: imamusma on November 01, 2023, 08:35:24 AM

Everyone agrees that Manchester United is one of the big clubs, and has a long history in the European Champions League. However, this is not enough to make United qualify from the group phase to the last 16, Ten Hag squad must work hard to realize their ambitions if they don't want to be thrown into the Europa League if they finish in third place. We have seen that Bruno and his friends were able to overcome Copenhagen in the first leg, and they lost when they met Galatasaray and Munchen. I think the maximum points The Red Devils can get in the remaining three matches is 6, win over Copenhagen and Galatasaray, when they meet Munchen I'm not so sure United will be able to secure full points.

On the other hand, The Reds Devils chances of qualifying really depend on Galatasaray performance in their three matches. Ten Hag has to think carefully about the match ahead, if he makes another wrong move he could lose his job. His quality will be questioned if he fails to get his squad through the group phase, and his credibility will decrease drastically.

Manchester United's past is very different from the present, Alex Ferguson's Manchester United was more frightening than the era of the coach that followed. Coach changes continued to be made to make Manchester United a club that had power and was able to challenge in every competition, but until the Ten Hag era Manchester United was still unable to become a team as scary as the Ferguson Era. This season is proof for Ten Hag that he has a responsibility to restore Manchester United to glory in the Champions League.

As a result of not having found their best performance, Manchester United chances are very small. Galatasaray better performance is a serious threat to Manchester United, Galatasaray is an obstacle for Manchester United to qualify for the round of 16. Apart from hoping that Galatasaray will lose points in the next few matches, Manchester United also have to rely on themselves to get a ticket to the knockout rounds. Ten Hag may lose his job if he fails to get Manchester United through to the knockout phase, but the final decision rests with the club management.

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It is difficult to say that MU has a chance to go to the next phase. And, this is normal because the club's situation is in a dire condition. I just thought, how come it took a time for so long to escape the memories with Fergie. Because since that era ended, MU is no longer the red devil. Because MU is no longer a club that its rivals fear.

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Lens are quite a different team in the Ligue 1 and Champions League in this season. They have been able to win only 3 times in 10 league matches in the Ligue 1 while they are the 2nd placed team in their CL group. Of course I don't think that they are just focusing entirely on the CL now. But it is obvious that they can't play as effective as here when it comes to the Ligue 1.

However as long as Lens manage to reach last 16 they would still be satisfied with their performance this season. I'm saying this considering that they would reach safety in the Ligue 1 sooner or later. I don't expect a thing like Lens would be under the threat of relegation while going on well in the CL.

Lens performance in League 1 is not as consistent as last season, even though they experienced a decline in several match in League 1, Lens is trying to improved it at this time. This season Lens is not only focusing on League 1 but he is also focusing on the Champions League match, although this season is a new season for him to appear in the champions league, but it is a proud achievement at least he managed to take part in the biggest competition in Europe and compete with elite clubs there.
so it is not surprising that Lens received praise for beating Arsenal in their second match in the champions league, as we know that Arsenal is a team that is not easy to beat, but Lens managed to beat Arsenal in the Champions League match. Currently, Lens is trying hard in the Champions League to get into the last 16.

Never took the performance in the local league as measurement to know how competent lens in the UCL. Lens is performing so well compared with the previous season as lens is focusing in UCL caused by it was giving more money rather than try to put all of its attention into the bundesliga. The club is not doing something bad. I meant lens is struggling in the UCL but it may also have better result in the UCL. Lens is now competing with arsenal to be at the top of group.
Being qualified for the next round will obviously gave lens more time to get money as much as possible from playing in UCL. I think that money becomes the main concern why lens try to put more focus into the UCL rather than its local league.

I will not be surprised if lens will be qualified to the next stage as this club is the strongest one after arsenal on its group. No doubt lens will able to take full points from its opponents.

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Quote from: uswa56 on November 01, 2023, 08:54:31 AM

We also have to be realistic in seeing or predicting what will happen, Manchester United is not inconsistent, but indeed the Manchester United team has not found its best performance, in UCL matches and in Premier League matches the Manchester United team has not played well since the start of the season.

If you look at what is happening with the Manchester United team at the moment then I speculate that Manchester United has a smaller chance of getting through the group phase than Galatasaray, indeed nothing is impossible in football but their chances are small because they can't find anything. their best performance and many of Manchester United's main players are still injured, so in my opinion there is no way for them to recover in the near future.

Manchester united still have a chance to qualify especially with their recent win in the UCL, but then they will have to continue with winning because they all they need is win as they need to secure at least nine points to me very sure they will qualify for the next stage of the UCL.

But Galatasaray is still at the second position with four points but if they loose any further and Manchester united wins their next game then it will be very clear Manchester will qualify and Galatasaray may likely not, but then the seemingly weak team in that group Copenhagen seem to no have a chance here with just a point but underestimating them might cost either Manchester united or Galatasaray their qualifications because a draw with Copenhagen is definitely disadvantageous to either of both teams.

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Quote from: BALIK on November 01, 2023, 09:03:03 AM

Manchester United won the match against Copenhagen I would say by mistake. Their performance was not good. Manchester United's performance was poor in this match as well. Manchester United would not have won this match if Copenhagen player Jordan Lorsson had not missed the penalty.

Mamchester United have been very far from their best, but all they needed in that game was a win, irrespective of how 'ugly' the win was, United are having a very poor run in both the EPL and CL and that has affected their confidence so much. Erik Ten Hag knows that elimination from the group stage of the CL would be a disaster and so United has to win at least two out of their remaining three matches, they have to beat Copenhagen in their next game and the decider could be their clash with Galatasaray, they are in a very difficult group and they could possibly be eliminated.

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