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Quote from: Spack17 on November 01, 2023, 08:26:11 AM

Lens are quite a different team in the Ligue 1 and Champions League in this season. They have been able to win only 3 times in 10 league matches in the Ligue 1 while they are the 2nd placed team in their CL group. Of course I don't think that they are just focusing entirely on the CL now. But it is obvious that they can't play as effective as here when it comes to the Ligue 1.

However as long as Lens manage to reach last 16 they would still be satisfied with their performance this season. I'm saying this considering that they would reach safety in the Ligue 1 sooner or later. I don't expect a thing like Lens would be under the threat of relegation while going on well in the CL.

Lens performance in League 1 is not as consistent as last season, even though they experienced a decline in several match in League 1, Lens is trying to improved it at this time. This season Lens is not only focusing on League 1 but he is also focusing on the Champions League match, although this season is a new season for him to appear in the champions league, but it is a proud achievement at least he managed to take part in the biggest competition in Europe and compete with elite clubs there.
so it is not surprising that Lens received praise for beating Arsenal in their second match in the champions league, as we know that Arsenal is a team that is not easy to beat, but Lens managed to beat Arsenal in the Champions League match. Currently, Lens is trying hard in the Champions League to get into the last 16.

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Weaknesses and inconsistency in maintaining their performance in the Champions League and Premier League have made many people doubt Manchester United chances. In material terms, the players that Manchester United has may be superior to Galatasaray, but overall and in terms of team unity, Galatasaray is more solid than Manchester United. Manchester United opened up opportunities after beating Copenhagen, while in other matches Galatasaray had to recognize Bayern Munich's superiority.

Manchester United must manage to collect several more points by winning the remaining matches, including when they meet Galatasaray in the second leg. I'm not sure Manchester United can wipe out all the matches with a win considering their current performance, but nothing is impossible if Manchester United players are able to motivate themselves to bring the team they are playing for through to the next round.

Nothing is impossible in football, one can watch an average team grow so tall to compete with elite team, that's the scenario we're watching in the present day football. UEFA Champions League comprises of more actions, we should relaxed and wait for the big actions. Manchester united having challenges when it comes to consistent form this season. That's the exact problem Erik Ten Hag is facing, the Red Devils can perform really good in today's game and turned to be one of the most flop team in next game. United supporters are desperate to watch the team bounce back to good form and having excellent players that are capable of handling the club.

We also have to be realistic in seeing or predicting what will happen, Manchester United is not inconsistent, but indeed the Manchester United team has not found its best performance, in UCL matches and in Premier League matches the Manchester United team has not played well since the start of the season.
If you look at what is happening with the Manchester United team at the moment then I speculate that Manchester United has a smaller chance of getting through the group phase than Galatasaray, indeed nothing is impossible in football but their chances are small because they can't find anything. their best performance and many of Manchester United's main players are still injured, so in my opinion there is no way for them to recover in the near future.

I agree with you. As Manchester United are currently performing, Galatasaray are more likely to qualify for the knockout rounds than Manchester United. Manchester United are very experienced and Renown team no doubt about that. However, their performances are now poor in both the Premier League and Champions League. The understanding between the players is not good. So the overall performance of the team is also very weak.

Manchester United won the match against Copenhagen I would say by mistake. Their performance was not good. Manchester United's performance was poor in this match as well. Manchester United would not have won this match if Copenhagen player Jordan Lorsson had not missed the penalty.

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Quote from: Spack17 on November 01, 2023, 08:26:11 AM

Lens are quite a different team in the Ligue 1 and Champions League in this season. They have been able to win only 3 times in 10 league matches in the Ligue 1 while they are the 2nd placed team in their CL group. Of course I don't think that they are just focusing entirely on the CL now. But it is obvious that they can't play as effective as here when it comes to the Ligue 1.

However as long as Lens manage to reach last 16 they would still be satisfied with their performance this season. I'm saying this considering that they would reach safety in the Ligue 1 sooner or later. I don't expect a thing like Lens would be under the threat of relegation while going on well in the CL.

IMO, Lens looks like for a while in this round Lens will prioritize focusing on UCL or not focus too much on matches in League 1 because this team knows enough that it a little easier to secure its position in League 1 and it easy to be far from relegation zone like what we saw when they were in the lower standings for too long, Lens was able to climb to the top 10 after going through several matches in UCL, so we should not worry too much Lens is one the big teams in League 1, which easy to avoid relegation the most important thing is that you only need to support Lens to be able to compete strongly against Arsenal because in group B Lens strongest opponent only Arsenal.

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Quote from: Spack17 on November 01, 2023, 08:26:11 AM

Lens are quite a different team in the Ligue 1 and Champions League in this season. They have been able to win only 3 times in 10 league matches in the Ligue 1 while they are the 2nd placed team in their CL group. Of course I don't think that they are just focusing entirely on the CL now. But it is obvious that they can't play as effective as here when it comes to the Ligue 1.

However as long as Lens manage to reach last 16 they would still be satisfied with their performance this season. I'm saying this considering that they would reach safety in the Ligue 1 sooner or later. I don't expect a thing like Lens would be under the threat of relegation while going on well in the CL.

Lens was indeed one of the teams that was quite surprising after they managed to qualify for the champions league zone and even eliminated Marseille. Even though in the end Marseille had to make it to the Champions League via the play-off route, they failed to penetrate the Champions League competition this season. Returning to Lens' performance this season, there is quite a difference from the domestic league competition and also the Champions League and in general Lens is much better in this group stage.

Maybe they also don't want to carry over the bad results in the domestic league to the Champions League and they are also really trying so far to qualify for the next phase. Of course it won't be easy because there is still a chance for all teams and maybe at least they have to be able to beat Sevilla and PSV to keep their chances of qualifying high. On the other hand, it will be a pretty good season for them if they qualify with Arsenal.

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Quote from: Belarge on November 01, 2023, 08:18:01 AM

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Weaknesses and inconsistency in maintaining their performance in the Champions League and Premier League have made many people doubt Manchester United chances. In material terms, the players that Manchester United has may be superior to Galatasaray, but overall and in terms of team unity, Galatasaray is more solid than Manchester United. Manchester United opened up opportunities after beating Copenhagen, while in other matches Galatasaray had to recognize Bayern Munich's superiority.

Manchester United must manage to collect several more points by winning the remaining matches, including when they meet Galatasaray in the second leg. I'm not sure Manchester United can wipe out all the matches with a win considering their current performance, but nothing is impossible if Manchester United players are able to motivate themselves to bring the team they are playing for through to the next round.

Nothing is impossible in football, one can watch an average team grow so tall to compete with elite team, that's the scenario we're watching in the present day football. UEFA Champions League comprises of more actions, we should relaxed and wait for the big actions. Manchester united having challenges when it comes to consistent form this season. That's the exact problem Erik Ten Hag is facing, the Red Devils can perform really good in today's game and turned to be one of the most flop team in next game. United supporters are desperate to watch the team bounce back to good form and having excellent players that are capable of handling the club.

We also have to be realistic in seeing or predicting what will happen, Manchester United is not inconsistent, but indeed the Manchester United team has not found its best performance, in UCL matches and in Premier League matches the Manchester United team has not played well since the start of the season.

If you look at what is happening with the Manchester United team at the moment then I speculate that Manchester United has a smaller chance of getting through the group phase than Galatasaray, indeed nothing is impossible in football but their chances are small because they can't find anything. their best performance and many of Manchester United's main players are still injured, so in my opinion there is no way for them to recover in the near future.

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Quote from: zaim7413 on November 01, 2023, 07:12:41 AM

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There is no chance to underestimate the Manchester United team. They are undoubtedly stronger than Galatasaray. However, Manchester United's performance this season is very weak. Not only are they performing poorly in the Champions League, the team's performance in the Premier League is even worse. Manchester United failed to win against Galatasaray at home. They have lost two out of three matches. They got a narrow 1-0 win against Copenhagen in the last match. I don't think Manchester United will win against Galatasaray with such a poor performance. Galatasaray's players will be confident in the home match. I will say the match will be a draw or Galatasaray will win. I don't consider Manchester United as favourites.

Weaknesses and inconsistency in maintaining their performance in the Champions League and Premier League have made many people doubt Manchester United chances. In material terms, the players that Manchester United has may be superior to Galatasaray, but overall and in terms of team unity, Galatasaray is more solid than Manchester United. Manchester United opened up opportunities after beating Copenhagen, while in other matches Galatasaray had to recognize Bayern Munich's superiority.

Manchester United must manage to collect several more points by winning the remaining matches, including when they meet Galatasaray in the second leg. I'm not sure Manchester United can wipe out all the matches with a win considering their current performance, but nothing is impossible if Manchester United players are able to motivate themselves to bring the team they are playing for through to the next round.

Everyone agrees that Manchester United is one of the big clubs, and has a long history in the European Champions League. However, this is not enough to make United qualify from the group phase to the last 16, Ten Hag squad must work hard to realize their ambitions if they don't want to be thrown into the Europa League if they finish in third place. We have seen that Bruno and his friends were able to overcome Copenhagen in the first leg, and they lost when they met Galatasaray and Munchen. I think the maximum points The Red Devils can get in the remaining three matches is 6, win over Copenhagen and Galatasaray, when they meet Munchen I'm not so sure United will be able to secure full points.

On the other hand, The Reds Devils chances of qualifying really depend on Galatasaray performance in their three matches. Ten Hag has to think carefully about the match ahead, if he makes another wrong move he could lose his job. His quality will be questioned if he fails to get his squad through the group phase, and his credibility will decrease drastically.

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Lens are quite a different team in the Ligue 1 and Champions League in this season. They have been able to win only 3 times in 10 league matches in the Ligue 1 while they are the 2nd placed team in their CL group. Of course I don't think that they are just focusing entirely on the CL now. But it is obvious that they can't play as effective as here when it comes to the Ligue 1.

However as long as Lens manage to reach last 16 they would still be satisfied with their performance this season. I'm saying this considering that they would reach safety in the Ligue 1 sooner or later. I don't expect a thing like Lens would be under the threat of relegation while going on well in the CL.

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Quote from: zaim7413 on November 01, 2023, 07:12:41 AM

Weaknesses and inconsistency in maintaining their performance in the Champions League and Premier League have made many people doubt Manchester United chances. In material terms, the players that Manchester United has may be superior to Galatasaray, but overall and in terms of team unity, Galatasaray is more solid than Manchester United. Manchester United opened up opportunities after beating Copenhagen, while in other matches Galatasaray had to recognize Bayern Munich's superiority.

Manchester United must manage to collect several more points by winning the remaining matches, including when they meet Galatasaray in the second leg. I'm not sure Manchester United can wipe out all the matches with a win considering their current performance, but nothing is impossible if Manchester United players are able to motivate themselves to bring the team they are playing for through to the next round.

Nothing is impossible in football, one can watch an average team grow so tall to compete with elite team, that's the scenario we're watching in the present day football. UEFA Champions League comprises of more actions, we should relaxed and wait for the big actions. Manchester united having challenges when it comes to consistent form this season. That's the exact problem Erik Ten Hag is facing, the Red Devils can perform really good in today's game and turned to be one of the most flop team in next game. United supporters are desperate to watch the team bounce back to good form and having excellent players that are capable of handling the club.

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Quote from: kro55 on October 31, 2023, 11:17:04 PM

There is no chance to underestimate the Manchester United team. They are undoubtedly stronger than Galatasaray. However, Manchester United's performance this season is very weak. Not only are they performing poorly in the Champions League, the team's performance in the Premier League is even worse. Manchester United failed to win against Galatasaray at home. They have lost two out of three matches. They got a narrow 1-0 win against Copenhagen in the last match. I don't think Manchester United will win against Galatasaray with such a poor performance. Galatasaray's players will be confident in the home match. I will say the match will be a draw or Galatasaray will win. I don't consider Manchester United as favourites.

Weaknesses and inconsistency in maintaining their performance in the Champions League and Premier League have made many people doubt Manchester United chances. In material terms, the players that Manchester United has may be superior to Galatasaray, but overall and in terms of team unity, Galatasaray is more solid than Manchester United. Manchester United opened up opportunities after beating Copenhagen, while in other matches Galatasaray had to recognize Bayern Munich's superiority.

Manchester United must manage to collect several more points by winning the remaining matches, including when they meet Galatasaray in the second leg. I'm not sure Manchester United can wipe out all the matches with a win considering their current performance, but nothing is impossible if Manchester United players are able to motivate themselves to bring the team they are playing for through to the next round.

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Quote from: Sebas.tian on October 31, 2023, 11:33:09 PM

It will going to be a tough match for both team, but PSG will use home advantage to destroy the effort of Newcastle to maintain a good position in the group F. I know, games can change at anytime but it will be very difficult for this match to change for the favour of Newcastle because PSG manager has a lot of potential players that are set to showcase their skills for their fans to believe that they stand on a solid ground to make things function well in this summer. PSG will be my favorite team, and they will not allow any mistakes to occur that will make the match end up draw 1-1 than to use some strategies they have never use before to defeat Newcastle 2-0 for the favour of PSG.

Of course PSG also wants to avenge their previous defeat when they visited Newcastle headquarters and this time PSG must win at the Parc De Princes if they want to get an additional 3 points. Group F is the most competitive so far compared to the other groups, especially since it is all filled with Champions League regulars every season. The only difference this time is the presence of Newcastle, but their achievements last season cannot be underestimated because they succeeded in stealing the place usually occupied by Liverpool or Chelsea. Maybe later I will also bet on PSG winning but I will also look at the line up first to solidify my betting options.

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Manchester United are in desperate condition in short. They should be even thankful if they manage to make it to last sixteen round. Because Galatasaray don't seem like they will let them do that. We all saw how they played even against Bayern Munich home. They are just way more ambitious than the Red Devils now.

Manchester United don't give any good sign these days. They were really bad in the last Manchester derby game as well. I don't feel like they will make a big progress until the end of this month. Probably Galatasaray would beat them again this time home and send them to the Europa League.

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Quote from: Litzki1990 on October 31, 2023, 11:14:35 PM

Bayern Munich are definitely favorites against Manchester United. If Bayan Munich enters the field against Manchester United with their best XI, then Manchester United will be defeated by a big margin against Bayan Munich. Manchester United was one of the best teams in the English Premier League but their performance has been poor since last season. Manchester United qualified for the Champions League this season There are doubts whether they will be able to qualify for the Champions League next season because after the first ten matches Manchester United are not in a good form. Manchester United's win against Bayern Munich is hard to come by so I think they have to plan for a point. If Manchester United plan for a point then maybe they can succeed in their plan.

Indeed, it would be quite good if Manchester United got 1 point in the match against Bayern. But that means Man Utd has to make a defensive strategy. And this could also endanger Man Utd itself. Because a defensive strategy will only give Bayern more freedom to build as many attacks as possible. What Man Utd can do now is win other matches besides Bayern. like in the next match against Copenhagen, I hope Man Utd will not waste this match. Man Utd must be able to get full points in this match. But on Match Day 1 against Bayern, Man Utd actually played quite well. a score of 4-3 indicates that there is almost equal strength between the two. But looking at Man Utd's performance now, it seems that it will be different and maybe Man Utd will not be able to play as well as on Matchday 1.

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Quote from: Helena Yu on November 01, 2023, 05:14:52 AM

Newcastle is more balanced team, but since they're very rarely playing in Champions league, I can't expect too much because experience can't lie. PSG and Dortmund will able to enter quarter final.

Of course with Newcastle's first appearance in the UCL at the moment I feel pretty good for Newcastle. Newcastle still have a chance to qualify albeit difficult. They will still go to Dortmund, Paris and 1 home game against Milan.

Statistically and that game going away from home it was a tough challenge but I think it was still quite early to determine Newcastle not qualifying because there are still three games. If qualified, this is Newcastle's first record entry into the UCL directly into the knockout phase. I'm sure Newcastle have a lot of spirit to qualify for the knockout phase.

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Though PSG seems to be stronger than Newcastle base on the fact that PSG has more experience and world class players, Newcastle at the other hand though not too consistent but their performance sometimes are awesome.

PSG is a team with one player, you can't expect they will go further if they're only rely with Mbappe. PSG is still struggle in their local league despite Ligue 1 is a farmer league, so it means they're not that strong.

Newcastle is more balanced team, but since they're very rarely playing in Champions league, I can't expect too much because experience can't lie. PSG and Dortmund will able to enter quarter final.

Newcastle is new in champions league and everything is still like a dream to them, it will take them time to be able to fit in to the league, but upon that they are still putting up a good performance. i could remember when Man City started showing their faces in UCL, this was how things was for them. Most times, they don't qualify from the group stage but now they are the defending champion.

PSG performance was surprising against Milan, how they won 3-0. I can't say if PSG will qaulify yet because their performance this season is not that impressive, but nobody knows if they have planned to take their champion league matches very serious. I believe that Newcastle will qualify from the group stage and I want to see how far they will go this season.

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Quote from: Richbased on November 01, 2023, 02:36:37 AM

Though PSG seems to be stronger than Newcastle base on the fact that PSG has more experience and world class players, Newcastle at the other hand though not too consistent but their performance sometimes are awesome.

PSG is a team with one player, you can't expect they will go further if they're only rely with Mbappe. PSG is still struggle in their local league despite Ligue 1 is a farmer league, so it means they're not that strong.

Newcastle is more balanced team, but since they're very rarely playing in Champions league, I can't expect too much because experience can't lie. PSG and Dortmund will able to enter quarter final.

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Quote from: Sebas.tian on October 31, 2023, 11:33:09 PM

It will going to be a tough match for both team, but PSG will use home advantage to destroy the effort of Newcastle to maintain a good position in the group F. I know, games can change at anytime but it will be very difficult for this match to change for the favour of Newcastle because PSG manager has a lot of potential players that are set to showcase their skills for their fans to believe that they stand on a solid ground to make things function well in this summer. PSG will be my favorite team, and they will not allow any mistakes to occur that will make the match end up draw 1-1 than to use some strategies they have never use before to defeat Newcastle 2-0 for the favour of PSG.

When we saw Newcastle successfully beat PSG at St James' Park quite decisively, doubts about PSG's ability to survive in this group increased, but when the next match saw Newcastle lose at home to Dortmund and PSG managed to overcome AC Milan, confidence in PSG slowly increased to be One of the teams that qualify from this group is back up because at least for the home match PSG managed to secure points and they only need to focus on how to take points in the two away matches.

Before facing Newcastle, in the fourth match, they will face AC Milan at the San Siro. If PSG manages to win or at least draw, it will give them more opportunities to qualify and when they face Newcastle, PSG should be able to get 3 points. The match that PSG will face in the Champions League for the group phase will never be an easy match but it is not impossible for them to win, they just need to play well and I am also quite sure that PSG will be one of the teams that will qualify for this most difficult group.

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Quote from: Richbased on November 01, 2023, 02:36:37 AM

Merely looking at the both teams one can easily give the odd to PSG but the ethics of football are changing this days as those teams that people give their confidence on, gives disappointment at the end so their might actually be a drama in this game.

Talking about drama, there are numerous drama that's been triggered in the system, alot of awful incidents happen in football, watching an average club recording a thrilled victory against an elite club. It's not longer a new thing, because it do happen in almost all games. We shouldn't hope on elite teams because they tend to bring dissapointing results in any moment, afterall they're just overhyped and that doesn't contribute to their performance on the pitch, instead they do decline in performance, I would choose to place wager on average teams because it's considerable since they're equally competitive and they take every game very serious.

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Quote from: Richbased on November 01, 2023, 02:36:37 AM

Merely looking at the both teams one can easily give the odd to PSG but the ethics of football are changing this days as those teams that people give their confidence on, gives disappointment at the end so their might actually be a drama in this game.

There is nothing strange with PSG and also with football ethics lately because what has happened is something that is absolutely a result of the development of each team so it is not worthy of being called a drama because all teams are fighting to become the best in the Champions League even though the team is highly distrusted by many people now.

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Though PSG seems to be stronger than Newcastle base on the fact that PSG has more experience and world class players, Newcastle at the other hand though not too consistent but their performance sometimes are awesome.

Even though Newcastle's experience in the Champions League is still slightly lower than PSG, every team in Group F still has to be wary of Newcastle as a tough opponent because currently Newcastle has the same number of points as Dortmund in the group standings and this could still be dangerous. PSG is in first place in the group standings even though PSG is two points away from the two teams.

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Quote from: Sebas.tian on October 31, 2023, 11:33:09 PM

It will going to be a tough match for both team, but PSG will use home advantage to destroy the effort of Newcastle to maintain a good position in the group F. I know, games can change at anytime but it will be very difficult for this match to change for the favour of Newcastle because PSG manager has a lot of potential players that are set to showcase their skills for their fans to believe that they stand on a solid ground to make things function well in this summer. PSG will be my favorite team, and they will not allow any mistakes to occur that will make the match end up draw 1-1 than to use some strategies they have never use before to defeat Newcastle 2-0 for the favour of PSG.

PSG has a much better chance of winning the group and Newcastle must fight to get points above Dortmund if they want to progress to the next round. PSG have collected six points while Dortmund and Newcastle have collected the same four points. PSG will face AC Milan at home and Newcastle will visit Dortmund's headquarters. If you look at the opportunities in this group, PSG and Dortmund are in a slightly more advantageous position compared to Newcastle and AC Milan.

The competition in this group will be much more interesting compared to other groups because the four representatives are teams that have fairly balanced players. AC Milan, which was previously the favorite, is currently at the bottom of the Group F standings for the time being and they need to win in the remaining matches if they want to qualify for the next round.

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Quote from: Sebas.tian on October 31, 2023, 11:33:09 PM

It will going to be a tough match for both team, but PSG will use home advantage to destroy the effort of Newcastle to maintain a good position in the group F. I know, games can change at anytime but it will be very difficult for this match to change for the favour of Newcastle because PSG manager has a lot of potential players that are set to showcase their skills for their fans to believe that they stand on a solid ground to make things function well in this summer. PSG will be my favorite team, and they will not allow any mistakes to occur that will make the match end up draw 1-1 than to use some strategies they have never use before to defeat Newcastle 2-0 for the favour of PSG.

Merely looking at the both teams one can easily give the odd to PSG but the ethics of football are changing this days as those teams that people give their confidence on, gives disappointment at the end so their might actually be a drama in this game.

Though PSG seems to be stronger than Newcastle base on the fact that PSG has more experience and world class players, Newcastle at the other hand though not too consistent but their performance sometimes are awesome.

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