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Quote from: Sakanwa on October 19, 2023, 06:44:06 PM

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Real Madrid is not a small team Arsenal will not be afraid of because, they have heard what Real Madrid is doing in the la Liga league and other tournament which they can still do those things to flog Arsenal with many goals to cause fear to other teams in that group. Real Madrid must break the record in this game to beat Arsenal to make people believe that things has changed in this season because their management has signed in so much talented players that will make the game favour Real Madrid. If wolves can beat Manchester city in the premier league to surprised people, I believe something like that will surely happen in this game that will make Real Madrid to achieve what they have never achieve before in the champion league.

Real Madrid team is not in a state to flog Arsenal now as you are thinking because they only have vast Champions League experience more than Arsenal because they are the team with highest Champions League trophy in the world and Arsenal did not have even one, but that should not be used to judge Arsenal case now because Arsenal team is more reliable than Real Madrid team that was struggling to win matches in Laliga just because some players were injured.

When the two sides meet,we would see which team is stronger,and I can go on to say that Arsenal are one of the best teams in the premier league for now,and if I am rating it in the world's stage,I will say Arsenal stands third or fourth in the world's ranking of the best teams at the moment.When Arsenal played against Barcelona in
the preseason game,we saw how Arsenal flogged them,that is to show you that Arsenal is totally on a different level compared to what you think of them before.If Arsenal should face Madrid now,I am hundred percent sure they can't win Arsenal,the highest they can get against this current Arsenal team is a draw.

Arsenal has been one of the best teams not only this season, but also last season and that makes it so interesting to see whether Arsenal is able to squeeze out a bit more out of this season and finally make it back into the circle of the strongest clubs also in the Champions League. They haven't had the best start though with their loss against Lens, but it doesn't mean they can't still become one of the best. Nothing is lost yet and if they do their job for the remaining games, I am looking forward to see them take on the challenges in the knock out games.

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Quote from: arimamib on October 19, 2023, 06:26:15 PM

In terms of experience, it is possible that Arsenal players do not have enough experience in the Champions League because you can see that arsenal players are dominated by young players and they have just returned to the Champions League after being absent in the previous season. I think Arteta must be able to raise the enthusiasm of his players in the upcoming match against Sevilla because arsenal must try well in order to qualify for the next round.

A defeat in the champions league at the stage where it will not cost them the competition is okay to remind them that this is a different environment from the English premier league and the teams they are playing even though they are not rated much in their various league will be focused to go as far as they can in this competition. Arsenal will take their game against Sevilla more seriously and since they have some key players back, they still are very well in a good position to win Sevilla and send them to the Europa which is the competition they are known for.

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Quote from: arimamib on October 19, 2023, 06:26:15 PM

Arsenal is so strong in the Premier League this season, They are unbeaten in the domestic league, but in the Champions League, Arsenal lost to a team that was not seeded. Lens was able to beat Arsenal with a score of 2-1 in the previous match which made arsenal record in the Champions League slightly tarnished. But I think arsenal will win again when they face Sevilla in the next match.

This is quite true however I am hopeful that Arsenal will bounce back against Sevilla. Odegaard is a fantastic attacking midfielder who could assist Saka to score starling goals in the match but it is unfortunate that Saka may not be able to play in the next match. I hope he would have fully recovered by then.

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In terms of experience, it is possible that Arsenal players do not have enough experience in the Champions League because you can see that arsenal players are dominated by young players and they have just returned to the Champions League after being absent in the previous season. I think Arteta must be able to raise the enthusiasm of his players in the upcoming match against Sevilla because arsenal must try well in order to qualify for the next round.

The need for the club to qualify will give them that moral booster to win over Sevilla. So far so good, Arteta is a well experienced manager being an assistant manager to Pep Guardiola for the range of 3 to 4 years and his calmness and aptitude will give him that edge to win the next match ahead.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on October 19, 2023, 06:42:13 PM

Even if Jude is the best player in the world, still counting on one palyer is not good for a team like Real Madrid to rely on one player and hope to see him score goals because Bellingham can get injured and be absent for any reason in the next games for Real Madrid. That's why I think Real Madrid will have problems in the harder games they have in the Champions League.

Agree. Relying on one player isn't a good idea, it will be easy for the opponent to destroy Ancelotti's tactic. Moreover, Bellingham isn't a striker, he actually isn't in an ideal position to contribute for many goals. Real Madrid must order all their attackers to play more aggressively, so all of them can have the same chance to score goals. If all Real Madrid attackers become very productive in scoring goals, the opponent will be difficult to destroy the tactic. On the other hand, it will be no problem when Bellingham can't perform as expected. It is because other attackers have the same chance for making the difference in the match.

Quote from: Sakanwa on October 19, 2023, 06:44:06 PM

When the two sides meet,we would see which team is stronger,and I can go on to say that Arsenal are one of the best teams in the premier league for now,and if I am rating it in the world's stage,I will say Arsenal stands third or fourth in the world's ranking of the best teams at the moment.

It is true that Arsenal is very strong now. But I think Man City is still the most strongest team in EPL. Although Arsenal is leading the EPL standings, but I assume Man City still has a bigger chance to win UCL trophy.

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Quote from: Abu-Naim on October 19, 2023, 03:53:26 PM

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Real Madrid is not a small team Arsenal will not be afraid of because, they have heard what Real Madrid is doing in the la Liga league and other tournament which they can still do those things to flog Arsenal with many goals to cause fear to other teams in that group. Real Madrid must break the record in this game to beat Arsenal to make people believe that things has changed in this season because their management has signed in so much talented players that will make the game favour Real Madrid. If wolves can beat Manchester city in the premier league to surprised people, I believe something like that will surely happen in this game that will make Real Madrid to achieve what they have never achieve before in the champion league.

Real Madrid team is not in a state to flog Arsenal now as you are thinking because they only have vast Champions League experience more than Arsenal because they are the team with highest Champions League trophy in the world and Arsenal did not have even one, but that should not be used to judge Arsenal case now because Arsenal team is more reliable than Real Madrid team that was struggling to win matches in Laliga just because some players were injured.

When the two sides meet,we would see which team is stronger,and I can go on to say that Arsenal are one of the best teams in the premier league for now,and if I am rating it in the world's stage,I will say Arsenal stands third or fourth in the world's ranking of the best teams at the moment.When Arsenal played against Barcelona in
the preseason game,we saw how Arsenal flogged them,that is to show you that Arsenal is totally on a different level compared to what you think of them before.If Arsenal should face Madrid now,I am hundred percent sure they can't win Arsenal,the highest they can get against this current Arsenal team is a draw.

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Quote from: Coyster on October 19, 2023, 05:13:25 PM

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Bellingham effect is really hard to deny of course. He has been playing extra since the beginning of the season. He is the main scorer of the team now.

Jude Bellingham is one of the best footballers in the world, and Real Madrid are lucky to have him, if they are to be successful this season, he'll definitely play a huge part in it. Having said that, i think it is still too early to conclude if Real Madrid are a better team with Benzema in it last season than they are now, i know they weren't really successful last season, they could only win the Copa del rey, but they have also not won anything this season yet.

Having said that, i think if Real Madrid don't get a striker in January, it might affect them when the season gets to its closing stages and every game becomes extra important, they are getting the goals now, but a time might come when they need an orthodox striker to get the job jone, i just think so, even though Jude Bellingham and his teammates could very well prove me wrong.

Even if Jude is the best player in the world, still counting on one palyer is not good for a team like Real Madrid to rely on one player and hope to see him score goals because Bellingham can get injured and be absent for any reason in the next games for Real Madrid. That's why I think Real Madrid will have problems in the harder games they have in the Champions League.

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I will love it too so Real Madrid can get Arsenal all embarrassed. Arsenal is not that club that wants to face Madrid. Real Madrid will face Sevilla soon in days coming and Arsenal will face Sevilla in the Champions League let's all measure the strength used against Sevilla and how Sevilla play against each of this sides.
Arsenal have come a long way this season but it doesn't look good comparing Champions of Champions in Europe to a club that had its best season and still won nothing put some respect to Real Madrid. They are not to be compared with Arsenal.

Both Real Madrid and Arsenal are doing well in their domestic league, and that shows that both teams are in great form, and if it comes like that, I don't think Arsenal have anything to be afraid of meeting Real Madrid currently. If the Arsenal squad should be afraid of meeting Real Madrid, I also expect Real Madrid to be afraid to meet Arsenal at this point. And as for the match against Sevilla and Arsenal, it will be a tough match because currently Sevilla is back in form and they are performing well recently, and Arsenal is also doing well, but if I am asked who has the best chances to win the game, I will choose Arsenal because I view Arsenal as a better team than Soliva.

Arsenal is so strong in the Premier League this season, They are unbeaten in the domestic league, but in the Champions League, Arsenal lost to a team that was not seeded. Lens was able to beat Arsenal with a score of 2-1 in the previous match which made arsenal record in the Champions League slightly tarnished. But I think arsenal will win again when they face Sevilla in the next match.

In terms of experience, it is possible that Arsenal players do not have enough experience in the Champions League because you can see that arsenal players are dominated by young players and they have just returned to the Champions League after being absent in the previous season. I think Arteta must be able to raise the enthusiasm of his players in the upcoming match against Sevilla because arsenal must try well in order to qualify for the next round.

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Quote from: Abu-Naim on October 19, 2023, 03:53:26 PM

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Real Madrid is not a small team Arsenal will not be afraid of because, they have heard what Real Madrid is doing in the la Liga league and other tournament which they can still do those things to flog Arsenal with many goals to cause fear to other teams in that group. Real Madrid must break the record in this game to beat Arsenal to make people believe that things has changed in this season because their management has signed in so much talented players that will make the game favour Real Madrid. If wolves can beat Manchester city in the premier league to surprised people, I believe something like that will surely happen in this game that will make Real Madrid to achieve what they have never achieve before in the champion league.

Real Madrid team is not in a state to flog Arsenal now as you are thinking because they only have vast Champions League experience more than Arsenal because they are the team with highest Champions League trophy in the world and Arsenal did not have even one, but that should not be used to judge Arsenal case now because Arsenal team is more reliable than Real Madrid team that was struggling to win matches in Laliga just because some players were injured.

In fact, real madrid has winning mentality and arsenal didn't have it. How can you say that if arsenal is more reliable than real madrid? You compare 16 times winners of UCL trophies to the 0 UCL trophy and call 0 UCL trophy does better performance than 16 times winners of UCL trophies.
It sounds non sense to thing about that. Arsenal was just going back again to the UCL after arsenal absent from playing in the UCL for a few years.
We shall also be honest if arsenal is not having winning mentality. Arsenal could not even won europa league. It doesn't even make sense to call this as a reliable club. Over rated club. Which real madrid players are injury now?
Vini has been coming back to play in real madrid. El real is laughing at you with 16 UCL trophies by calling as arsenal a better club. Cheesy

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Quote from: Abu-Naim on October 19, 2023, 03:53:26 PM

Quote from: Zanab247 on October 19, 2023, 02:16:34 PM

Real Madrid is not a small team Arsenal will not be afraid of because, they have heard what Real Madrid is doing in the la Liga league and other tournament which they can still do those things to flog Arsenal with many goals to cause fear to other teams in that group. Real Madrid must break the record in this game to beat Arsenal to make people believe that things has changed in this season because their management has signed in so much talented players that will make the game favour Real Madrid. If wolves can beat Manchester city in the premier league to surprised people, I believe something like that will surely happen in this game that will make Real Madrid to achieve what they have never achieve before in the champion league.

Real Madrid team is not in a state to flog Arsenal now as you are thinking because they only have vast Champions League experience more than Arsenal because they are the team with highest Champions League trophy in the world and Arsenal did not have even one, but that should not be used to judge Arsenal case now because Arsenal team is more reliable than Real Madrid team that was struggling to win matches in Laliga just because some players were injured.

If we don’t misjudge and still allow this two teams to meet, it will definitely be in the champions league and not any other league. The same champions league you claim Real Madrid have more experience than Arsenal in. Don’t you think Real Madrid will win them despite their unreliable claim of not being able to win match because of their injured players? Maybe Real Madrid performance and Arsenal’s performance in their respective leagues have been excellent and they can be said to be on the same level now. But I am still of the opinion that Arsenal won’t prevail against Real Madrid if they meet today. This will be because of the nature of the competition they’re meeting in and also Real Madrid’s vast experience here. Arsenal proficiency is only in the premier league and not in the champions league which they just returned to after several years.

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Quote from: Coyster on October 19, 2023, 05:13:25 PM

Quote from: CLS63 on October 19, 2023, 04:04:29 PM

Bellingham effect is really hard to deny of course. He has been playing extra since the beginning of the season. He is the main scorer of the team now.

Jude Bellingham is one of the best footballers in the world, and Real Madrid are lucky to have him, if they are to be successful this season, he'll definitely play a huge part in it. Having said that, i think it is still too early to conclude if Real Madrid are a better team with Benzema in it last season than they are now, i know they weren't really successful last season, they could only win the Copa del rey, but they have also not won anything this season yet.

Having said that, i think if Real Madrid don't get a striker in January, it might affect them when the season gets to its closing stages and every game becomes extra important, they are getting the goals now, but a time might come when they need an orthodox striker to get the job jone, i just think so, even though Jude Bellingham and his teammates could very well prove me wrong.

Incredible talent. Now weeks goes by and he comes in helping Both England and Real Madrid attain them sole mission. He should be one of the best younger players under the law of who?
Real Madrid did better with Karim Benzema season before last but last, he wasn't available due to Injury. I will say they remain a better side in the Spanish league and Champions League.

Failure to get the signature and fba striker done would lead to judgement. Joselu remains a Real Madrid player with five goals in the league but no so sure how he'll lead those players into winning the La Liga with how he stays

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Quote from: CLS63 on October 19, 2023, 04:04:29 PM

Bellingham effect is really hard to deny of course. He has been playing extra since the beginning of the season. He is the main scorer of the team now.

Jude Bellingham is one of the best footballers in the world, and Real Madrid are lucky to have him, if they are to be successful this season, he'll definitely play a huge part in it. Having said that, i think it is still too early to conclude if Real Madrid are a better team with Benzema in it last season than they are now, i know they weren't really successful last season, they could only win the Copa del rey, but they have also not won anything this season yet.

Having said that, i think if Real Madrid don't get a striker in January, it might affect them when the season gets to its closing stages and every game becomes extra important, they are getting the goals now, but a time might come when they need an orthodox striker to get the job jone, i just think so, even though Jude Bellingham and his teammates could very well prove me wrong.

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Real Madrid this season will never be the same as Real Madrid a few seasons ago. Real Madrid's strength and long history in the Champions League will not always be able to make other players' mental collapse, in fact they no longer have players who are as scary as before.

I don't know which player is most respected by his opponents in the Real Madrid squad apart from Modric and Toni Kroos at the moment. Almost all the other players are young players, they are unstable even though so far the team's overall performance has been good. Without Kroos and Modric, I think Real Madrid is no longer a scary team even though they have a long history in the Champions League.

To be honest Real Madrid seem stronger than last season at least. After Benzema left the team in the summer and Real Madrid didn't want to sign a top striker in his place I doubted them a little. However they seem even better this season. They are doing great in the La Liga and I can say the same thing for the Champions League as well.

Because they won against Napoli away which was the toughest match of the group. Probably they will finish as leader.

Bellingham effect is really hard to deny of course. He has been playing extra since the beginning of the season. He is the main scorer of the team now.

The truth is that Real Madrid are currently better than they were at this particular stage last season but I think it's too early to conclude if this current Real Madrid squad is gonna deliver a better campaign for the club than the squad if last season did.
Their former captain Karim Benzema who was the club's most important player before he left in the summer to join a Saudi Arabian club but that hasn't really affected the team's performance this season as Madrid's summer signing Jude Bellingham have been firing goals from all cylinders for the club despite being a midfield player. However if Real Madrid continues with their current performance, they might end the season with two or more major trophies

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Quote from: SOKO-DEKE on October 19, 2023, 03:55:03 PM

Both Real Madrid and Arsenal are doing well in their domestic league, and that shows that both teams are in great form, and if it comes like that, I don't think Arsenal have anything to be afraid of meeting Real Madrid currently. If the Arsenal squad should be afraid of meeting Real Madrid, I also expect Real Madrid to be afraid to meet Arsenal at this point. And as for the match against Sevilla and Arsenal, it will be a tough match because currently Sevilla is back in form and they are performing well recently, and Arsenal is also doing well, but if I am asked who has the best chances to win the game, I will choose Arsenal because I view Arsenal as a better team than Soliva.

Real Madrid and Arsenal records outstanding results in their perspective leagues, it's easier to win games in domestic leagues other than UEFA Champions League because it's a tough one. There's certainly no team that's underrated in UCL because it's not easy to be among the top four which apparently categorized them to be competitive in matches. Arsenal are exceptional having good scores in EPL but coming to UCL, everything changed for them, they face Sevilla next, Gunners hoped of qualifying to the next stage with strict battle among their opponents.

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Quote from: SOKO-DEKE on October 19, 2023, 03:55:03 PM

Both Real Madrid and Arsenal are doing well in their domestic league, and that shows that both teams are in great form, and if it comes like that, I don't think Arsenal have anything to be afraid of meeting Real Madrid currently. If the Arsenal squad should be afraid of meeting Real Madrid, I also expect Real Madrid to be afraid to meet Arsenal at this point. And as for the match against Sevilla and Arsenal, it will be a tough match because currently Sevilla is back in form and they are performing well recently, and Arsenal is also doing well, but if I am asked who has the best chances to win the game, I will choose Arsenal because I view Arsenal as a better team than Soliva.

It's very important you understand that Real Madrid have got More experience with the champions league than Arsenal, real Madrid is always having an appearance more often in the UCL than arsenal does , so their vast experience would be a very big advantage for them as the know how well to handle big and small teams at the UCL, having played UCL to finals severally.

Using the performance of arsenal in their domestic league to be a yardstick of comparison for both team may not be totally correct and out of line at some point, Arsenal has not really have the very awesome performance at the UCL but has done such with their domestic league but Real Madrid has done well I'm both, showing they have the dept of experience and capabilities to fave arsenal and win them if they happen to meet after the group stage.

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Quote from: Abu-Naim on October 19, 2023, 03:53:26 PM

Real Madrid team is not in a state to flog Arsenal now as you are thinking because they only have vast Champions League experience more than Arsenal because they are the team with highest Champions League trophy in the world and Arsenal did not have even one, but that should not be used to judge Arsenal case now because Arsenal team is more reliable than Real Madrid team that was struggling to win matches in Laliga just because some players were injured.

These two teams are in different groups in the Champions League this season and I don't think we will link the performance of the two teams to compare what is happening at the moment. This means that Arsenal will focus all their energy on being able to win the next match against Sevilla where in the previous match arsenal lost points when they faced Lens. So arsenal opportunity to return to winning ways when they face Sevilla. I think Arteta must improve Arsenal performance in the Champions League this season to improve their ranking in the standings table.

Well, as you said, Real madrid is a quite experienced team in the Champions League and that is true. Even Real Madrid are kings in the Champions League because they have won the UCL trophy 14 times. And this season the storm of injuries that has haunted the Real Madrid team seems not to have had quite a bad impact on them in the Champions League because Real madrid is currently the leader of the standings in group C.

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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on October 19, 2023, 12:23:46 PM

Real Madrid this season will never be the same as Real Madrid a few seasons ago. Real Madrid's strength and long history in the Champions League will not always be able to make other players' mental collapse, in fact they no longer have players who are as scary as before.

I don't know which player is most respected by his opponents in the Real Madrid squad apart from Modric and Toni Kroos at the moment. Almost all the other players are young players, they are unstable even though so far the team's overall performance has been good. Without Kroos and Modric, I think Real Madrid is no longer a scary team even though they have a long history in the Champions League.

To be honest Real Madrid seem stronger than last season at least. After Benzema left the team in the summer and Real Madrid didn't want to sign a top striker in his place I doubted them a little. However they seem even better this season. They are doing great in the La Liga and I can say the same thing for the Champions League as well.

Because they won against Napoli away which was the toughest match of the group. Probably they will finish as leader.

Bellingham effect is really hard to deny of course. He has been playing extra since the beginning of the season. He is the main scorer of the team now.

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Quote from: harapan on October 19, 2023, 11:00:13 AM

I will love it too so Real Madrid can get Arsenal all embarrassed. Arsenal is not that club that wants to face Madrid. Real Madrid will face Sevilla soon in days coming and Arsenal will face Sevilla in the Champions League let's all measure the strength used against Sevilla and how Sevilla play against each of this sides.
Arsenal have come a long way this season but it doesn't look good comparing Champions of Champions in Europe to a club that had its best season and still won nothing put some respect to Real Madrid. They are not to be compared with Arsenal.

Both Real Madrid and Arsenal are doing well in their domestic league, and that shows that both teams are in great form, and if it comes like that, I don't think Arsenal have anything to be afraid of meeting Real Madrid currently. If the Arsenal squad should be afraid of meeting Real Madrid, I also expect Real Madrid to be afraid to meet Arsenal at this point. And as for the match against Sevilla and Arsenal, it will be a tough match because currently Sevilla is back in form and they are performing well recently, and Arsenal is also doing well, but if I am asked who has the best chances to win the game, I will choose Arsenal because I view Arsenal as a better team than Soliva.

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Quote from: Zanab247 on October 19, 2023, 02:16:34 PM

Real Madrid is not a small team Arsenal will not be afraid of because, they have heard what Real Madrid is doing in the la Liga league and other tournament which they can still do those things to flog Arsenal with many goals to cause fear to other teams in that group. Real Madrid must break the record in this game to beat Arsenal to make people believe that things has changed in this season because their management has signed in so much talented players that will make the game favour Real Madrid. If wolves can beat Manchester city in the premier league to surprised people, I believe something like that will surely happen in this game that will make Real Madrid to achieve what they have never achieve before in the champion league.

Real Madrid team is not in a state to flog Arsenal now as you are thinking because they only have vast Champions League experience more than Arsenal because they are the team with highest Champions League trophy in the world and Arsenal did not have even one, but that should not be used to judge Arsenal case now because Arsenal team is more reliable than Real Madrid team that was struggling to win matches in Laliga just because some players were injured.

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Arsenal may not look awesome with that loss, but they are still by far the best team in that group and I bet that they are going to finish the group as the first place. I will go one further, there are not that many teams that would be good at the second place, maybe PSG could finish second I am not sure but it's just 2 games so we do not know, but at the end of the day there is a HUGE possibility that Arsenal will face an easier opponent at last 16 as well, so they will probably see the quarter finals too.

Maybe it's just me, but a season where you are top three in premier league and at quarter finals of UCL would not be that bad for them. I understand people want success, but you build that success over time and not right away. Next season they could go for that title, or be second again, and this time maybe semi-finals and slowly keep growing that up until they have one EPL title and one UCL title, it could be like Liverpool at different years as well.

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Quote from: Distraction on October 19, 2023, 01:35:17 PM

I don't believe there is a big difference between Arsenal and Barcelona right now. Bookmakers must be thinking the same as me that the odds of these teams to become the champions are nearly the same now. We haven't seen anything serious yet of course. Both of them don't have any title contender in their groups.

After the group stage we will find out which one of these teams will come one step forward. It would be more visible against top teams.

For now I have some good expectations from especially Arsenal. Despite being full of young players they are playing really solid under the management of Arteta.

They may play almost same patterns on the pitch, Arsenal and Barcelona have nothing in common. The odds are not always the way we want it.
Barcelona are superior to Arsenal,in terms of tactics, qualities, depth of players, Barcelona are just not financially stable to challenge with clubs in the transfer window.

Barcelona I can say will come forth as the heads of them group stage. They have a fine set of warriors as players ready to win the Champions League
The expectations had should be towards winning the Premier League and not the Champions League. Barcelona has a upper stand when it comes to winning the Champions League to Arsenal.

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