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October 19, 2023, 10:12:34 AM
For Arsenal to face Real Madrid they first need to play well in the group, where they are in second place so far. By the way, they don't have easy opponents and it's not clear whether Arsenal can take first or second place. Because Sevilla and PSV can play well this season. Arsenal have a difficult group, unlike Real Madrid.
Keep insulting Arsenal indirectly because I'm sure they're not even up to Barcelona standards at the present time, considering that the Gunners are struggling to win games. It's hilarious to draw comparisons between Real Madrid and Arsenal. We understand the distinction; Los Blancos is greater than Arsenal in terms of everything, including players and trophies triumphed, and they are considered as the best leading team in the world. Arsenal qualified for the UCL this season, they still got some strength to compete with elite teams down here.

But, if I consider their results in the local league, then surely Arsenal are still a better team compared to Lens, PSV and Sevilla . But even so, I personally wouldn't compare Arsenal to Real Madrid because obviously, they have much different qualities . So yes, if for example you predict Arsenal will meet or play against Real Madrid in the knockout stages then I think the result maybe predictable about a victory for Real Madrid. But apart from that, I personally don't think that far, because of course at this moment it would be more appropriate for Arsenal to stay focused on qualifying for the round of 16, and not care who the opponent will face later.
Arsenal has been very impressive since the start of the season and are still one of the two English Premier League clubs that are yet to suffer defeat in the league since the campaign kicked off. Real Madrid in their own is not just at the top of the Spanish La Liga standings but has also been able to win the two games they've played so far in the UEFA Champions League competition.
That being said, I think Arsenal can if they play at their best are capable of winning against Real Madrid even when it's absolutely clear to every football fan that the Spanish giants are better in terms of quality players and performance.
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October 19, 2023, 10:11:04 AM
Arsenal are in good shape but they also know their limits this season. You're correct, Mikel Arteta should tend to concentrate on EPL other than distracting the team in UCL race. Gunners is yet to face any big team in UCL this season, they meets and records thrilling victory against these average teams. EPL race would become easier and possible for them to win and not elite competitions were there's presence of tough competitive clubs. Winning UEFA Champions League is an impossible task for the Gunners, after been absent in the elite competition for long term.
Maybe this season Mikel Arteta will make a difference to last season where Mikel Arteta will also concentrate on the Champions League apart from continuing to concentrate on the EPL. Although in general I am not sure that Arsenal will progress smoothly to the next round, but for the round of 16 I am still quite confident that Arsenal has a better chance of qualifying. Because in group B there are no big, stronger teams, so it is more possible for Arsenal to qualify for the next round of the Champions League.
I hope so but im not willing to put big expectation for this club. Look at how arsenal become bottle club at the end of last season. That's enough to prove that if arsenal is always having a problem on its consistentcy.

I would like to mention an article

https://www.goal.com/en/lists/arsenal-incredible-season-losing-man-city-premier-league-title-doesnt-change/

This article discussed about how good the performance from arsenal during the previous season but it must be trophyless due to the inconsistentcy by missing a few points at the end of season. I think that the most important thing to build the winning mentality for the club.
Arsenal never had this. That's also the reason why arsenal was always able leading the premier league without winning the trophy.

It's a real challenge for arteta this season but my feeling said that if arsenal may be struggling at the middle till end of season.
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October 19, 2023, 10:09:53 AM
Maybe now seeing that there is no de Bruyne in Manchester City squad, looks like a lion that is a little limp, their performance has declined in the last two matches in the English main league, it is quite dangerous when the game on the field pivotes on one player, and what is seen to be seen that no one can replace the role of De Bruyne to this day, who is commensurate to replace De Bruyne in an active midfielder position, as seen that his successor is R Lewis, but not as great as De Bruyne, then what rotation needs to be done for Fill the emptiness? Who deserves to rotate the position?

Speaking UCL Manchester City can certainly enter the next round of the match to see the victory they have collected, and I think it is strong enough at UCL even without the support of De Bruyne on the field.
The trending team in EPL and UCL have declined in performance this season, I'm wondering what happen to a team that generated such fierce fire last season by winning a treble. Pep Guardiola and his supporters specifically knows the origination of their problems and will not quite till everything is solved and handled appropriately.  The absence of Kelvin De Bruyne is one of the major void that created a vacant space in the midfield, though Rodri have tried his best to fit in but he's actually not 100% fit to handle everything by himself, he's aggressive but he's not keen on giving tremendous passes like Kelvin De Bruyne.

If there are no players who can replace De Bruyne role, then of course Pep Guardiola must apply different strategies and tactics. Because of course, if Pep Guardiola still uses the same strategy and tactics as there is still De Bruyne, then it will never succeed in producing good performance. Of course, I am sure that Pep Guardiola has good skills and plans for Manchester City even without De Bruyne. Because ya, it will be very bad if Pep Guardiola cannot overcome the dependence on De Bruyne for Manchester City's performance.

Surely Pep cannot maintain the same strategy on De Bruyne's movement will make them even more chaotic if they see such movements, and Manchester City games will be easily guessed by opponents who will make them suffer a farther defeat than this.
Pe Guardiola must be able to make a new play maker in midfielder midfielder and not focus on one person, I strongly believe in Pep from his experience and knowledge in his strategy, maybe they will not release further in their matches.

He had to get another treble winner this season to add to their new history and his career as a great coach of all time. Cheesy
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October 19, 2023, 10:09:01 AM
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Arsenal must maintain the performance they showed in the EPL, now they are still fighting in the group stage to secure first position in group B. Arsenal is still superior compared to the three other clubs in Group B. Lens, Sevilla and PSV Eindhoven are not as strong as the top teams in the EPL. Arsenal strength this season will be tested by other strong teams from different leagues. Arsenal needs to avoid stronger opponents in the round of 16 by winning group B.

Arsenal meeting with Real Madrid will probably take place in the quarter-finals or semi-finals if these two teams are able to survive in the UCL. It's hard to guess who is stronger between the two because Arsenal has also managed to beat Manchester City in the EPL.

So far I'm not sure Arsenal will qualify for the last 16 by leading group B, but that could still happen if they manage to avoid dropping points in the next four matches. Arsenal have already suffered defeat against Lens, while they will travel to Sevilla after their match against Chelsea in the Premier League.

Arsenal were certainly convincing in the group stages, but they can never underestimate anyone because they could lose like they did against Lens. Sevilla is a good team even though they haven't won a match, so they will definitely try to play and get maximum points at home in the next match. This means Arsenal must be careful about the possibility of a bad result regarding the match, the possibility of Arsenal losing remains.
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October 19, 2023, 10:07:00 AM
For Arsenal to face Real Madrid they first need to play well in the group, where they are in second place so far. By the way, they don't have easy opponents and it's not clear whether Arsenal can take first or second place. Because Sevilla and PSV can play well this season. Arsenal have a difficult group, unlike Real Madrid.
Keep insulting Arsenal indirectly because I'm sure they're not even up to Barcelona standards at the present time, considering that the Gunners are struggling to win games. It's hilarious to draw comparisons between Real Madrid and Arsenal. We understand the distinction; Los Blancos is greater than Arsenal in terms of everything, including players and trophies triumphed, and they are considered as the best leading team in the world. Arsenal qualified for the UCL this season, they still got some strength to compete with elite teams down here.

And what about City and Madrid or City and Barcelona? Do remember that Arsenal has beaten City twice since the start. Don't want to brag on this but don't underestimate Arsenal at current state as well. You can pull out the stats factor and yes both these Spanish giants have got a lot in their cabinet but it gets difficult year after year as there are other clubs who are making it hard and Arsenal is definitely one of those.
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October 19, 2023, 10:02:48 AM
For Arsenal to face Real Madrid they first need to play well in the group, where they are in second place so far. By the way, they don't have easy opponents and it's not clear whether Arsenal can take first or second place. Because Sevilla and PSV can play well this season. Arsenal have a difficult group, unlike Real Madrid.
Keep insulting Arsenal indirectly because I'm sure they're not even up to Barcelona standards at the present time, considering that the Gunners are struggling to win games. It's hilarious to draw comparisons between Real Madrid and Arsenal. We understand the distinction; Los Blancos is greater than Arsenal in terms of everything, including players and trophies triumphed, and they are considered as the best leading team in the world. Arsenal qualified for the UCL this season, they still got some strength to compete with elite teams down here.

But, if I consider their results in the local league, then surely Arsenal are still a better team compared to Lens, PSV and Sevilla . But even so, I personally wouldn't compare Arsenal to Real Madrid because obviously, they have much different qualities . So yes, if for example you predict Arsenal will meet or play against Real Madrid in the knockout stages then I think the result maybe predictable about a victory for Real Madrid. But apart from that, I personally don't think that far, because of course at this moment it would be more appropriate for Arsenal to stay focused on qualifying for the round of 16, and not care who the opponent will face later.
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October 19, 2023, 09:48:18 AM
Maybe this match Sevilla can able to make the match end in draw too?
In the Champions League Group B, each team played two matches, with four teams occupying four positions in the points table with two matches each. Lens have won one match and drawn one of their first two matches, leaving them top of the table with four points. Arsenal have lost one of their first 2 matches and they have earned full points in one of the matches which makes them second in the points table with 3 points. Lens are likely to advance to the next round as group champions from Group B as they are top of the table with four points and their next opponent is PSV which is an easy opponent for them. Arsenal's next Champions League match will be tough as they face Sevilla. Lens and Arsenal are definitely favorites for the next round considering the current points and statistics of both teams.
If Arsenal wins their match against Sevilla they will top the table then if lens wins against psv they will maintain their top position but if lens draw Arsenal will be ahead of the and PSV is most likely not to get another loss, they would want a win as they all in the race to qualify for the next stage of the league, so by all indications, Arsenal still have a very good chance to top the group and qualify for the next round.

I think most likely PSV might not makes it to the next stage and Arsenal and lens are most likely to make it to the news stages, Arsenal is the favourite of that group and they have been doing well in their domestic league so much is expected of them as champions league is even more competitive and they are lucky to be in a group where they seem superior to their other opponents.
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October 19, 2023, 09:36:55 AM
For Arsenal to face Real Madrid they first need to play well in the group, where they are in second place so far. By the way, they don't have easy opponents and it's not clear whether Arsenal can take first or second place. Because Sevilla and PSV can play well this season. Arsenal have a difficult group, unlike Real Madrid.
Keep insulting Arsenal indirectly because I'm sure they're not even up to Barcelona standards at the present time, considering that the Gunners are struggling to win games. It's hilarious to draw comparisons between Real Madrid and Arsenal. We understand the distinction; Los Blancos is greater than Arsenal in terms of everything, including players and trophies triumphed, and they are considered as the best leading team in the world. Arsenal qualified for the UCL this season, they still got some strength to compete with elite teams down here.
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October 19, 2023, 09:12:33 AM
I really like Arsenal as well. The progress they have made so far is just marvelous. They are even considered as the 4th biggest contender for the Champions League title by bookies now. However I see one thing in Arsenal that could create a big problem for them when they face bigger challenges in the tournament. That thing is the lack of experienced players in the squad. I mean of course some of their young players have also gained a lot of experience to even lead the team - like Odegaard who is the new captain.

But I think they needed players such as Xhaka as well. They parted ways with him as well in the summer and now they are a very young team. Let's see how far they can make it like this.
Arsenal made it to UEFA Champions League this season and they're exhibiting their very best performance. Gunners are 100% ready to face challenging opponents this season, due to the reason and determination, they won their long-term preeminent rival for EPL title this season with just a thrilled 1 nil winning. That victory really had a positive impacts on the team, Mikel Arteta and his men are ready to boosts their performance in UCL this season. I'm confident they would qualify from from their group, it's not a big deal for Gunners, their main priority is reaching crucial phases in the long run for EPL this season. Martin Odegaard and Bukayo Saka will lead the team to path of glory this season.
I don't think arsenal having young players it will be a problem to them in the Champions league,  the truth is that arsenal is good in a better form to perform well. The young players arsenal have are really  good, from their performance so far this season I think arsenal are good enough to challenge any big team in the champions league. Arsenal might not be lucky to win the Champions league this season but they will really make a good performance in their in Champions league this season.

Let's get over with this now! Arsenal has no chance of winning the Champions League. That'll be considered an expensive joke. They should focus on winning the Premier League this season and not prioritizing a competition they know quite well they can't win.
They've had a remarkable season last season, so I expect them to use that energy and motivation towards getting the Premier League job done.

I didn't expect them to drop points off against Lens though, they shouldn't have lost that game. They should be very focused when they face Sevilla ahead. Sevilla now has a new coach, so they should expect something different and tough.
I understand your perspective, particularly in light of Lens's unanticipated loss. In fact, considering their past failures in the UCL, concentrating on the Premier League might be Arsenal's best chance. Its difficult for me to imagine them winning the UCL championship. One may counter that Arsenal might be finding their rhythm again in European events, given that Arteta managed to outsmart Guardiola the previous season. It would be foolish of Arsenal, in my opinion, to completely ignore the UCL. Given Sevilla's impending visit and their recently hired coaching staff, Arsenal needs to get ready for a tactical confrontation. But should they give one more priority than the other? The Premier League, in my opinion, merits the majority of their focus.
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October 19, 2023, 08:58:16 AM
I just want to watch them against bigger teams than the ones in their group as well. They are really good at dealing with top teams in the Premier League. I wonder whether they can do this in the Champions League too.
Being placed at the top position in EPL didn't mean if arsenal will have same performance in UCL. UCL is far harder than EPL caused by the club must have faced strong teams which are unfamiliar to the club. I would like to see arsenal to face real madrid.
Bellingham will ready to destroy arsenal and kick it out from UCL. There are so many great clubs qualified for the play off.
Arsenal must maintain the performance they showed in the EPL, now they are still fighting in the group stage to secure first position in group B. Arsenal is still superior compared to the three other clubs in Group B. Lens, Sevilla and PSV Eindhoven are not as strong as the top teams in the EPL. Arsenal strength this season will be tested by other strong teams from different leagues. Arsenal needs to avoid stronger opponents in the round of 16 by winning group B.

Arsenal meeting with Real Madrid will probably take place in the quarter-finals or semi-finals if these two teams are able to survive in the UCL. It's hard to guess who is stronger between the two because Arsenal has also managed to beat Manchester City in the EPL.
For Arsenal to face Real Madrid they first need to play well in the group, where they are in second place so far. By the way, they don't have easy opponents and it's not clear whether Arsenal can take first or second place. Because Sevilla and PSV can play well this season. Arsenal have a difficult group, unlike Real Madrid.
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October 19, 2023, 08:15:46 AM
Maybe this match Sevilla can able to make the match end in draw too?
In the Champions League Group B, each team played two matches, with four teams occupying four positions in the points table with two matches each. Lens have won one match and drawn one of their first two matches, leaving them top of the table with four points. Arsenal have lost one of their first 2 matches and they have earned full points in one of the matches which makes them second in the points table with 3 points. Lens are likely to advance to the next round as group champions from Group B as they are top of the table with four points and their next opponent is PSV which is an easy opponent for them. Arsenal's next Champions League match will be tough as they face Sevilla. Lens and Arsenal are definitely favorites for the next round considering the current points and statistics of both teams.
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October 19, 2023, 08:14:55 AM
Let's get over with this now! Arsenal has no chance of winning the Champions League. That'll be considered an expensive joke. They should focus on winning the Premier League this season and not prioritizing a competition they know quite well they can't win.
They've had a remarkable season last season, so I expect them to use that energy and motivation towards getting the Premier League job done.

I didn't expect them to drop points off against Lens though, they shouldn't have lost that game. They should be very focused when they face Sevilla ahead. Sevilla now has a new coach, so they should expect something different and tough.
Arsenal are in good shape but they also know their limits this season. You're correct, Mikel Arteta should tend to concentrate on EPL other than distracting the team in UCL race. Gunners is yet to face any big team in UCL this season, they meets and records thrilling victory against these average teams. EPL race would become easier and possible for them to win and not elite competitions were there's presence of tough competitive clubs. Winning UEFA Champions League is an impossible task for the Gunners, after been absent in the elite competition for long term.

Arsenla may be going out from UCL if this club will face strong team like bayern or real madrid even barcelona. Arsenal didn't have winning mentality at this moment. So many times this club was trying to gamble its luck on UCL but it keeps failed.
I see a small chance owned by arsenal to win UCL this season. Some clubs like real madrid and bayern are coming with superb performance. Even real madrid was able destroying any of its opponents. The chance for 16 times winner of ucl to add more ucl trophy is very big. Real madrid is going back to the its prime again. I have no dobt if madrid is likely going to the final of ucl this season. Even napoli got destroyed by this club when madrid gone to the maradona stadium.

It's a miracle for arsenal if arteta's club will able to go to the final this season. It's too good to be true. I knew that if nothing is impossible but we must also try to accept the reality if other team has greater quality than arsenal.
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October 19, 2023, 07:48:58 AM
Arsenal are not doing bad so far, the season is going well and they have managed to be in the title charge so far but i just hope are able to fight till the end this time around. The champions league is a more competitive league and their absence in the champions league might make it a bit more difficult for them as most of their players are not used to such challenges. They lost a match against an opponent they could’ve won easily so it shows that they may find it hard to survive in the champions league and i think if they make it far they won’t go past the knockout round but let’s see how it goes if they can prove me wrong.
Arsenal performance looks not promising in  Champion League after winning and loss one match, current on second standings place Arsenal have one points remaining from Lens lead top standings with 4 points. Next match away to Sevilla teams and should winning if want take opportunity lead to knock out round stage. I am little surprised with Arsenal performance in Champion League, opening first match with fantastic winning score over PSV Eindhoven but unpredictable when losing from weakness opponent teams Lens have bad performed in domestic league. Arsenal chance qualify to knock out round still not easy and depend on next match result against  Sevilla, actually with first appearance after absent for last several years Arsenal should have promising performance and got in easy group not face difficult for winning all group matches stage.
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October 19, 2023, 07:48:32 AM
This is a surprise that sometimes cannot be predicted because after all the favorite does not mean they can win easily as well as Arsenal in the match against Lens.
They excel in everything in terms of attack and their performance is better, it's just that matches like this and Arsenal's defeat are difficult to predict even though this is not impossible for things like this to happen.

To fight Sevilla, the two clubs are currently still at risk because Sevilla sometimes surprises when playing against clubs from the EPL but on the other hand there is another tough match for Sevilla because in domestic competition they will also face Madrid which of course this will also make them tired.
Arsenal are still favorites in this match but of course the same incident as the defeat against Marseille can also still happen.
You are right, when facing Lens it never crossed my mind that Arsenal would be beaten. In the first few minutes Arsenal game was quite promising, but after the second half they couldn't penetrate Lens' defense.

Therefore, it is quite difficult for me to predict whether Arsenal against Sevilla will go well. Sevilla has not performed well recently, but in the UCL their mentality will improve and Arteta troops need to be careful so they don't let their guard down and concede a goal. The slightest gap can be exploited by the opponent. I hope that both Sevilla and Arsenal can entertain us in this match with intense play. At least we will really look forward to the fast rhythm of the game.
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October 19, 2023, 07:46:33 AM
Only a matter of days Arsenal will face Sevilla, where Sevilla still cannot win and always ends in a draw in their last few matches. Honestly, I hope Arteta will easily pass this match by bringing an impressive performance to overtake points and shift Lens' position. None other than this is also to realize their dreams and also the fans to at least increase their chances of getting their first UCL trophy.
It's similar like we expect Arsenal will able to beat Lens, but the reality Lens won against Arsenal. So shit can happen especially in group stage international league, when it comes to quarter final, usually it's easier to predict which club will win.

Maybe this match Sevilla can able to make the match end in draw too?
Who knows what magical powers Sevilla has, they are not good in the Domestic League but when facing other strong teams in the Europa League and Champions League, they look different.
Sevilla also held Lens to a draw, the team that beat Arsenal. That doesn't mean Arsenal is weak, but facing Sevilla, maybe Arsenal will get some surprises. it could be easy for them, but it might also be very difficult to win.
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October 19, 2023, 07:34:51 AM
Arsenal's performance this season is much better than last season and in Group B there is no strong opponent for Arsenal so I think there is no reason for Arsenal not to qualify from the Group even though they have already suffered their first defeat against Lens in the second match, I think it is not big problem.

Every team will definitely focus on their UCL matches because this is the most prestigious competition in Europe, and in my opinion, with the quality that Arsenal has this season, it is very possible for them to go further in the UCL this season.
It won't be that easy, while Arsenal will be hindered by challengers in group B such as Lens and Sevilla, who up to now still look very strong, whereas Sevilla have never lost and Lens have never lost, but Arsenal lost once when they played against Lens.
So it won't be that easy for Arsenal to qualify in group B even though everyone hopes Arsenal can qualify but in fact difficulties will continue to occur because Lens also want to qualify in this round and in my opinion if you say Arsenal's performance is much better than last season I don't think so what has changed for Arsenal is because in terms of performance Arsenal is still the same as last season, it's just that this is only the initial stage of the Champions League match.
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October 19, 2023, 07:26:13 AM
Only a matter of days Arsenal will face Sevilla, where Sevilla still cannot win and always ends in a draw in their last few matches. Honestly, I hope Arteta will easily pass this match by bringing an impressive performance to overtake points and shift Lens' position. None other than this is also to realize their dreams and also the fans to at least increase their chances of getting their first UCL trophy.
It's similar like we expect Arsenal will able to beat Lens, but the reality Lens won against Arsenal. So shit can happen especially in group stage international league, when it comes to quarter final, usually it's easier to predict which club will win.

Maybe this match Sevilla can able to make the match end in draw too?
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October 19, 2023, 07:18:45 AM
I just want to watch them against bigger teams than the ones in their group as well. They are really good at dealing with top teams in the Premier League. I wonder whether they can do this in the Champions League too.
Being placed at the top position in EPL didn't mean if arsenal will have same performance in UCL. UCL is far harder than EPL caused by the club must have faced strong teams which are unfamiliar to the club. I would like to see arsenal to face real madrid.
Bellingham will ready to destroy arsenal and kick it out from UCL. There are so many great clubs qualified for the play off.
Arsenal must maintain the performance they showed in the EPL, now they are still fighting in the group stage to secure first position in group B. Arsenal is still superior compared to the three other clubs in Group B. Lens, Sevilla and PSV Eindhoven are not as strong as the top teams in the EPL. Arsenal strength this season will be tested by other strong teams from different leagues. Arsenal needs to avoid stronger opponents in the round of 16 by winning group B.

Arsenal meeting with Real Madrid will probably take place in the quarter-finals or semi-finals if these two teams are able to survive in the UCL. It's hard to guess who is stronger between the two because Arsenal has also managed to beat Manchester City in the EPL.
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I didn't expect them to drop points off against Lens though, they shouldn't have lost that game. They should be very focused when they face Sevilla ahead. Sevilla now has a new coach, so they should expect something different and tough.

Arsenal was a better team than Lens, but I'm not sure what happened to cause them to lose to Lens. Their forthcoming game against Sevilla will not be as easy for them to win because Sevilla is a stronger team than Lens as well, and Arsenal will need to put in more effort in this match to win. Sevilla has been quite good in European competitions, as evidenced by their prior record in the competition over the years. The game will be played at Sevilla's stadium, and their head-to-head record is even.
This is a surprise that sometimes cannot be predicted because after all the favorite does not mean they can win easily as well as Arsenal in the match against Lens.
They excel in everything in terms of attack and their performance is better, it's just that matches like this and Arsenal's defeat are difficult to predict even though this is not impossible for things like this to happen.

To fight Sevilla, the two clubs are currently still at risk because Sevilla sometimes surprises when playing against clubs from the EPL but on the other hand there is another tough match for Sevilla because in domestic competition they will also face Madrid which of course this will also make them tired.
Arsenal are still favorites in this match but of course the same incident as the defeat against Marseille can also still happen.
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October 19, 2023, 06:45:51 AM
Let's get over with this now! Arsenal has no chance of winning the Champions League. That'll be considered an expensive joke. They should focus on winning the Premier League this season and not prioritizing a competition they know quite well they can't win.
They've had a remarkable season last season, so I expect them to use that energy and motivation towards getting the Premier League job done.

I didn't expect them to drop points off against Lens though, they shouldn't have lost that game. They should be very focused when they face Sevilla ahead. Sevilla now has a new coach, so they should expect something different and tough.
You said Arsenal should focus on the Premier League and not put too much importance on the UCL competition. However, when you lost to Lens, you actually said you didn't expect it and that you should have won. So I'm confused, do you think Arsenal should focus on the Premier League and UCL or one of them? Then you also said that you have to focus on facing Sevilla, which is a UCL competition.

Just think again Shocked

For me personally, whether they qualify or not, Arsenal still have to perform optimally, when the composition of players the Gunner has is in ideal condition. After successfully solving Pep Guardiola's strategy puzzle, Arteta ambitions for UCL will be much higher. Remembering that last season Man City was the trophy holder. This opportunity is still open even though in the future the opponents Arsenal will face after the group stage will be much more challenging.

I'm not a gunner, you feel me? In paper you'll expect Arsenal to make them game two on two wins in the Champions League group stage but they couldn't get that win, not even near sharing points with Lens.
Supporting Arsenal to go top of the group is all I'm doing, whenever it comes to the Champions League, I always support all Premier League clubs, I don't support and whenever I see a Premier League side facing Manchester United.

What Puzzle? Lol
Congratulations to Mikel Arteta,he was able to do that after several loses. They ( Gunners ) did win because Manchester City wasn't without some of them finest players they had last season present. I'll say this again, Arsenal have no chance of winning the Champions League this season.
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