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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on September 23, 2024, 03:55:01 PM

Regarding the game between Atalanta and Arsenal, I don't know why but Arsenal had totally disappointing performance in this match and they easily lost a point against Atalanta while this team was not strong like Arsenal and they didn't have superstar players like this team at all. It seems Arteta is even more experienced enough and he still can't have a good performance in the bigger tournaments like the Champions League with Arsenal.
Also, Arteta should thank David Raya for his good performance because he saved a penalty kick for his team otherwise they could lose this game against Atalanta.

Yet they went on giving a tough time to Mancity Cheesy

in their league( Premier league )... I don't know what's the coach is actually doing with team because I thought they would crush Atalanta easily with how it's been crushed currently at this period. Their stats was completely average I felt like Atalanta wasn't that lucky with their penalty kick, Arsenal could have just lost point and there wouldn't be anything to discuss than they FUBT or should we just say the coach doesn't give a sh*t about UCL ??

Holding Atalanta draw is much better than Arsenal having to lose 3 points, because Atalanta should have made good use of the spot kick. Too bad it didn't happen because Arsenal have a reliable goalkeeper, so if it is said that Arsenal are unlucky then Atalanta are much more unlucky when opportunities are in sight. After all Arsenal have not conceded so maybe they are trying to improve in the next match against PSG which obviously will not be easy because PSG now looks more stable and consistent.

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Damn, Arsenal played badly in the match against Atalanta and in this match it was seen that Atalanta dominated the game to have possession of the ball and attacking play that was superior to Arsenal.
Previously Arsenal played well when playing away against Tottenham but today they played away against Atalanta and could not be like when they met Tottenham, on the other hand Atalanta did not perform so well in Serie-A at the beginning of this season.
Barcelona also played badly against Monaco, Monaco won with 2 goal advantage and Barcelona was only able to score 1 goal, only Atletico Madrid managed to win in today match which I chose as betting option.

The Arsenal game vs Atlanta wasn't a surprising thing to me, though I know how good arsenal has been for sometime now. The Truth is that, if you happen to support any English team, you will prefer to face teams from other leagues than Serie A teams. Serie A teams are totally built different when it comes to European football, so that was what literally limit the play of the arsenal team. One funny thing about serie A team is that, they can be having a very bad season in their league, but when it comes to European competition, you always find them active. I didn't watch the arsenal game much because it was kind of boring. Atalanta really dominated. And I think what I like about that Atalanta side is their attack and defense. The three attackers clearly understand what to do. Their positioning was very threatening to the arsenal defense. And I think we should appreciate David Raya for making that fantastic save when they needed him the most. The current arsenal team should better learn how to cope and play without their captain Odegaard. I have noticed Jorginho's shaky feet in the past 2 games now. He needs to show some courage as the current leader of the team.

Regarding the game between Atalanta and Arsenal, I don't know why but Arsenal had totally disappointing performance in this match and they easily lost a point against Atalanta while this team was not strong like Arsenal and they didn't have superstar players like this team at all. It seems Arteta is even more experienced enough and he still can't have a good performance in the bigger tournaments like the Champions League with Arsenal.
Also, Arteta should thank David Raya for his good performance because he saved a penalty kick for his team otherwise they could lose this game against Atalanta.

I totally disagree with you, if you had watched that game very well you would have seen that Atalanta where the better side against Arsenal, don't even go to say that Atalanta is not strong as Arsenal, Atalanta played without any sign of weakness in that game, you might want to rate them not being on the same standard with Arsenal but every club that has qualified for the champions League came as a champion especially Atalanta that won the Europa League. I still blame that young man that went to play the penalty for Atalanta as he would have allowed ademola lookman to take the penalty kick, maybe by now you would have understood that Atlanta came prepared if they had won that game.

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To become a champion I think Atalanta is very difficult to expect, here is not the Europa league that he can master like last season, here is the champions league where not a few teams are very extraordinary in making their way in the much stronger champions league, seeing Atalanta's performance from the draw match against Arsenal it is not worth counting in my opinion, we also know how Arsenal's performance is always inconsistencies in the champions league, we will see that view when Atalanta can reach the semi-finals, I really doubt it will be like what happened to Dortmund last season, can it have the same fate? I really doubt it.

So far, I don't see something special with Atalanta. What makes people to expect Atalanta be the champion in UCL? If people assume winning the Europa league last season to be the reason of Atalanta reaching the final UCL, it is something nonsense. Sure, the level of Champions League and Europa League are different. Champions League is much harder, we have too many strong teams here. Even some teams become the favorite to reach the final (Real Madrid, Man City, Bayern Munich). These favorite teams is surely stronger than Atalanta.

However, I don't underestimate Atalanta. It doesn't mean Atalanta will have 0 chance to survive. However, if we consider its current performance and the squad quality, it is unlikely to see Atalanta in the semi-final or final UCL. I personally assume the realistic target is to reach the quarter final. If Atalanta can qualify the next round, they will have a chance to go to quarter final.

Atalanta winning Europa League indeed good achievement but i don't think they will be automatically became an the favourite in this competition because just like we all know that Champion league is very different compared to other competitions and it's hard even for strong teams to gets the trophy even Guardiola has been admitted Champion league is the hardest competition in Europa

The draw result from Arsenal indeed has successfully to boosted Atalanta mentally although i personally didn't satisfied to see this result because they have good chances to beat Arsenal but i think draw against strong team just like Arsenal is good achievement for Atalanta

I think it's too far to talking about champion possibility for Atalanta because they are not the favourite in this competition besides that there were plenty of big teams who deserved to called as champion candidates rather than them and if we talking about knockout stages i think they have to try harder especially besides Arsenal Atalanta has more strong opponents just like Real Madrid and Barcelona

certainly not, it is not easy for Atalanta to be able to impose itself on teams like Real Madrid or Barcelona but never say never the possibility of doing well or doing badly against strong teams is always there and they absolutely should not be underestimated, we must remember that they won the championship anyway. Europa League

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Quote from: TelolettOm on September 23, 2024, 10:50:43 AM

Quote from: bangjoe on September 23, 2024, 09:51:01 AM

To become a champion I think Atalanta is very difficult to expect, here is not the Europa league that he can master like last season, here is the champions league where not a few teams are very extraordinary in making their way in the much stronger champions league, seeing Atalanta's performance from the draw match against Arsenal it is not worth counting in my opinion, we also know how Arsenal's performance is always inconsistencies in the champions league, we will see that view when Atalanta can reach the semi-finals, I really doubt it will be like what happened to Dortmund last season, can it have the same fate? I really doubt it.

So far, I don't see something special with Atalanta. What makes people to expect Atalanta be the champion in UCL? If people assume winning the Europa league last season to be the reason of Atalanta reaching the final UCL, it is something nonsense. Sure, the level of Champions League and Europa League are different. Champions League is much harder, we have too many strong teams here. Even some teams become the favorite to reach the final (Real Madrid, Man City, Bayern Munich). These favorite teams is surely stronger than Atalanta.

However, I don't underestimate Atalanta. It doesn't mean Atalanta will have 0 chance to survive. However, if we consider its current performance and the squad quality, it is unlikely to see Atalanta in the semi-final or final UCL. I personally assume the realistic target is to reach the quarter final. If Atalanta can qualify the next round, they will have a chance to go to quarter final.

Atalanta winning Europa League indeed good achievement but i don't think they will be automatically became an the favourite in this competition because just like we all know that Champion league is very different compared to other competitions and it's hard even for strong teams to gets the trophy even Guardiola has been admitted Champion league is the hardest competition in Europa

The draw result from Arsenal indeed has successfully to boosted Atalanta mentally although i personally didn't satisfied to see this result because they have good chances to beat Arsenal but i think draw against strong team just like Arsenal is good achievement for Atalanta

I think it's too far to talking about champion possibility for Atalanta because they are not the favourite in this competition besides that there were plenty of big teams who deserved to called as champion candidates rather than them and if we talking about knockout stages i think they have to try harder especially besides Arsenal Atalanta has more strong opponents just like Real Madrid and Barcelona

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Quote from: samuraijin on September 23, 2024, 09:34:43 PM

Most likely preparing the ground to face Man City in the Domestic League, at least holding Atalanta to a draw at their home is much more than enough and most likely, Arsenal will beat Atalanta at Arsenal's home, so this tactic and strategy is what Arteta uses in maintaining the stamina of the players, so that facing Man City at home all the players are in their best condition because we know these two clubs are tough competitors in their League so whatever the result is is a strategy so that Arsenal's points are not lost too much.

It would be nonsense to lose at home. There is a high probability that this will not happen. It is still much better to play at home than away. You can say that you know all the pitfalls of your "home". Which cannot be said about the opponent, who is playing for the first time (but this is not certain), but still does not feel so confident.

Wow, this is going to be an interesting match. I can just see how with each scoring opportunity the chair flies out from under my feet. Grin

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The match between Atalanta and Arsenal out our expectations in the match, from the beginning of the match I hoped to see an impressive match and full of high intensity but in fact both teams are more inclined to play carefully in the match, we known so far Arsenal is a team that plays attractively in attack but absent Odegaard seems to haveindeed lowered their speed in the attack, there are not many chances and shots on target that are created actually make the match very boring in my opinion, Arsenal are very lucky because have Raya as their goalkeeper and he can again and again save Arsenal from defeat after successfully making a fantastic save from Retegui penalty kick, I think the reflexes and also the toughness possessed by Raya that made him able to seize the position of Arsenal main goalkeeper so far from Ramsdale.

It was match that was not as expected, they were bad in every attack and defense and indeed in this match I also considered that David Raya contribution was very large with several saves he made.
I don't know what happened to the players so that they were unable to beat Atalanta, but what is clear is that Arteta looked quite disappointed with the performance of his players who could not play consistently, this is Arsenal weakness which cannot maintain the quality of play at any time.
Arsenal played well against Tottenham but experienced decline in the UCL match against Atalanta then returned to perform very well when playing against Manchester City for the Premier League match and if they did not get 1 red card maybe Arsenal would have won although I really hope Manchester City would have won the match.
Next Arsenal will meet PSG for the second UCL match and there is still enough time for Arsenal to prepare everything well and they are playing at home, Arsenal should be able to play well even though PSG is not an easy opponent.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on September 23, 2024, 03:55:01 PM

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Quote from: Hirose UK on September 20, 2024, 01:31:12 AM

Damn, Arsenal played badly in the match against Atalanta and in this match it was seen that Atalanta dominated the game to have possession of the ball and attacking play that was superior to Arsenal.
Previously Arsenal played well when playing away against Tottenham but today they played away against Atalanta and could not be like when they met Tottenham, on the other hand Atalanta did not perform so well in Serie-A at the beginning of this season.
Barcelona also played badly against Monaco, Monaco won with 2 goal advantage and Barcelona was only able to score 1 goal, only Atletico Madrid managed to win in today match which I chose as betting option.

The Arsenal game vs Atlanta wasn't a surprising thing to me, though I know how good arsenal has been for sometime now. The Truth is that, if you happen to support any English team, you will prefer to face teams from other leagues than Serie A teams. Serie A teams are totally built different when it comes to European football, so that was what literally limit the play of the arsenal team. One funny thing about serie A team is that, they can be having a very bad season in their league, but when it comes to European competition, you always find them active. I didn't watch the arsenal game much because it was kind of boring. Atalanta really dominated. And I think what I like about that Atalanta side is their attack and defense. The three attackers clearly understand what to do. Their positioning was very threatening to the arsenal defense. And I think we should appreciate David Raya for making that fantastic save when they needed him the most. The current arsenal team should better learn how to cope and play without their captain Odegaard. I have noticed Jorginho's shaky feet in the past 2 games now. He needs to show some courage as the current leader of the team.

Regarding the game between Atalanta and Arsenal, I don't know why but Arsenal had totally disappointing performance in this match and they easily lost a point against Atalanta while this team was not strong like Arsenal and they didn't have superstar players like this team at all. It seems Arteta is even more experienced enough and he still can't have a good performance in the bigger tournaments like the Champions League with Arsenal.
Also, Arteta should thank David Raya for his good performance because he saved a penalty kick for his team otherwise they could lose this game against Atalanta.

Most likely preparing the ground to face Man City in the Domestic League, at least holding Atalanta to a draw at their home is much more than enough and most likely, Arsenal will beat Atalanta at Arsenal's home, so this tactic and strategy is what Arteta uses in maintaining the stamina of the players, so that facing Man City at home all the players are in their best condition because we know these two clubs are tough competitors in their League so whatever the result is is a strategy so that Arsenal's points are not lost too much.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on September 23, 2024, 03:55:01 PM

Regarding the game between Atalanta and Arsenal, I don't know why but Arsenal had totally disappointing performance in this match and they easily lost a point against Atalanta while this team was not strong like Arsenal and they didn't have superstar players like this team at all. It seems Arteta is even more experienced enough and he still can't have a good performance in the bigger tournaments like the Champions League with Arsenal.
Also, Arteta should thank David Raya for his good performance because he saved a penalty kick for his team otherwise they could lose this game against Atalanta.

Yet they went on giving a tough time to Mancity Cheesy

in their league( Premier league )... I don't know what's the coach is actually doing with team because I thought they would crush Atalanta easily with how it's been crushed currently at this period. Their stats was completely average I felt like Atalanta wasn't that lucky with their penalty kick, Arsenal could have just lost point and there wouldn't be anything to discuss than they FUBT or should we just say the coach doesn't give a sh*t about UCL ??

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Leverkusen have had a decent season, both in the domestic league and their first match in the Champions League. The confidence levels are increasing for them and getting used to this elite competition, even though they have recently made a comeback to the Champions League. The next game against AC Milan will certainly pass as interesting. Anyhow, Milan are one of the big teams in Europe.

Still, Milan itself is having an up and down season in the domestic league. They are placed 7th presently, having recorded two wins, two draws, and one loss. Maybe this situation could offer Leverkusen a perfect time to peak and maybe spring a surprise. But in the Champions League, but then again anything can happen; Milan is still an opponent to be wary of.

Bayer can take advantage of the fact that Milan has not yet found its game, I think that Alonso will want to use the same tactics that Liverpool used, but I don’t know if they have enough strength for such pressure and Bayer’s defense is not as reliable as Liverpool’s, so it may not work. And Milan can gain confidence from yesterday’s victory over Inter, but I’m not rushing to such conclusions yet, Milan is weaker than I expected.

I acknowledge the fact that Bayern Leverkusen is getting stable and better this season after their wonderful performance of last season. But I will not be in a haste to rate them a better team than AC Milan. Although AC Milan has never done their best this season but after watching their derby with Inter Milan, I concluded that they are good to go in the Champions League. I never knew that so many good players are now with AC Milan, players as;
Abraham,
Morata,
Pulisic,
Fofana,
Chukwueze,
Rafael Leao, etc
These guys have the ability to stop Bayern leverkusen.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on September 23, 2024, 03:13:06 PM

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That is the fact that previously Monaco managed to beat Barcelona in Trofeo Joan Gamper 2024 which in fact was a tournament they made themselves in pre-season and in yesterday's official match their chance was actually revenge for Trofeo Joan Gamper but what happened was the opposite where they had to be willing to lose 1 player and lose points in the first match of the Champions League Cheesy

Regarding the communication error or maybe it was more Ter Stegen's fault for something like this in the game there are always things like this and of course this should be used as a situation where they can improve even more because this is not the first time mistakes have occurred in the Champions League because if we remember last season they also did the same thing when meeting PSG in the Champions League which in the end made a loss for themselves.

The second week they will face Young Boys should be a calm before the match against Bayern returns with an interesting situation between Barcelona, Flick and Bayern.

I can't say Monaco had a good performance because of beating a team like Barcelona in the ChampionsLeague, they really won the game but it doesn't mean Monaco is a good team, they were playing against Barcelona while Barcelona had one fewer player for the whole this game and this was effective for them to beat Barcelona.
Since Barcelona got good results in La Liga, I think time after time they can have better performances in the Champions League too.

I'm not saying that they'll be one of the clubs that qualify straight away and think they're as good as the other big clubs in the Champions League at the moment but the fact that they played well against Barcelona is undeniable.
We can't deny that fact and we have to admit that in this first match they played very well despite the mistakes of the Barcelona players in yesterday's match, we still have to praise Monaco's game which managed to beat Barcelona even for this season Monaco has won 2 times when dealing with Barcelona.

Although the match is still very much where the Champions League competition is clearly still very difficult for them but when Monaco still shows this spirit it is not impossible that they can qualify even through the play off route.

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Quote from: Felicity_Tide on September 20, 2024, 04:14:58 AM

Quote from: Hirose UK on September 20, 2024, 01:31:12 AM

Damn, Arsenal played badly in the match against Atalanta and in this match it was seen that Atalanta dominated the game to have possession of the ball and attacking play that was superior to Arsenal.
Previously Arsenal played well when playing away against Tottenham but today they played away against Atalanta and could not be like when they met Tottenham, on the other hand Atalanta did not perform so well in Serie-A at the beginning of this season.
Barcelona also played badly against Monaco, Monaco won with 2 goal advantage and Barcelona was only able to score 1 goal, only Atletico Madrid managed to win in today match which I chose as betting option.

The Arsenal game vs Atlanta wasn't a surprising thing to me, though I know how good arsenal has been for sometime now. The Truth is that, if you happen to support any English team, you will prefer to face teams from other leagues than Serie A teams. Serie A teams are totally built different when it comes to European football, so that was what literally limit the play of the arsenal team. One funny thing about serie A team is that, they can be having a very bad season in their league, but when it comes to European competition, you always find them active. I didn't watch the arsenal game much because it was kind of boring. Atalanta really dominated. And I think what I like about that Atalanta side is their attack and defense. The three attackers clearly understand what to do. Their positioning was very threatening to the arsenal defense. And I think we should appreciate David Raya for making that fantastic save when they needed him the most. The current arsenal team should better learn how to cope and play without their captain Odegaard. I have noticed Jorginho's shaky feet in the past 2 games now. He needs to show some courage as the current leader of the team.

Regarding the game between Atalanta and Arsenal, I don't know why but Arsenal had totally disappointing performance in this match and they easily lost a point against Atalanta while this team was not strong like Arsenal and they didn't have superstar players like this team at all. It seems Arteta is even more experienced enough and he still can't have a good performance in the bigger tournaments like the Champions League with Arsenal.
Also, Arteta should thank David Raya for his good performance because he saved a penalty kick for his team otherwise they could lose this game against Atalanta.

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I feel like giving breaks time to time is a must because teams end up playing their domestic cup games too, or just rest and wait for the next one, if you keep putting games back to back then it would be quite hard and we wouldn't have a good result at all, we should be something that is getting a great result if teams end up resting their players, if they do not rest and play every single week then we are not going to see the teams do fine.

Plus, when are you going to put the domestic cup games if every week there is a UCL game? That is why there must be some weeks that these teams are given free so they could either rest or play cup and 8 games for group stages is something that we can all agree that's a good thing. Which is why I feel like the best thing in this case should be a great deal when you end up putting some money into it at as well. I believe that if we can put some money on when it's on, that would be good, gives us an edge until next time.

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Quote from: red4slash on September 21, 2024, 02:39:15 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on September 20, 2024, 02:08:33 PM

I think it's 100% the goalkeeper's mistake, no one else is to blame. The one who makes the decision is responsible, he made the worst decision possible.
By the way, I heard that in pre-season games Monaco beat Barcelona 3-0, so in some sense you can say that Barcelona is progressing Grin

This game looks like an accident rather than a logical outcome, so I hope everyone (including the bookies) continues to overrate Barcelona.

That is the fact that previously Monaco managed to beat Barcelona in Trofeo Joan Gamper 2024 which in fact was a tournament they made themselves in pre-season and in yesterday's official match their chance was actually revenge for Trofeo Joan Gamper but what happened was the opposite where they had to be willing to lose 1 player and lose points in the first match of the Champions League Cheesy

Regarding the communication error or maybe it was more Ter Stegen's fault for something like this in the game there are always things like this and of course this should be used as a situation where they can improve even more because this is not the first time mistakes have occurred in the Champions League because if we remember last season they also did the same thing when meeting PSG in the Champions League which in the end made a loss for themselves.

The second week they will face Young Boys should be a calm before the match against Bayern returns with an interesting situation between Barcelona, Flick and Bayern.

I can't say Monaco had a good performance because of beating a team like Barcelona in the ChampionsLeague, they really won the game but it doesn't mean Monaco is a good team, they were playing against Barcelona while Barcelona had one fewer player for the whole this game and this was effective for them to beat Barcelona.
Since Barcelona got good results in La Liga, I think time after time they can have better performances in the Champions League too.

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Quote from: Lidger on September 23, 2024, 10:06:50 AM

Every team in the Champions League has just started their journey, so every team still has many opportunities, but Barcelona should not be compared with other teams. Barcelona should have won against the team they lost against. Maybe I will skip the discussion about the match that has gone but there is no guarantee that Barcelona will not repeat this performance in their future matches. Barcelona will have to change tactics. La Liga and Champions League tournaments are not the same, the opponents here are different strengths, so Barcelona has to play with different strategies for different tournaments. If Barcelona can plan and play according to the plan before each match, they can do well.

In the previous match, Barcelona suffered defeat. But yes, this only happened because Barcelona played with 10 players in that match after a red card was received by one of the players. And I see that Barcelona is still strong even though they played with 10 players in the previous match. So I think Barcelona will be able to win the next match in the UCL as long as Barcelona doesn't make the same mistakes that could result in them getting another red card. In Laliga we see that Barcelona is able to play very perfectly. Because yesterday they managed to beat one of the strongest teams in Laliga, namely Villareal, with a big score of 1-5. And I think that in the next match against Young Boys, Barcelona will be very favorites and it is hoped that they will win with quite a large score.

The strategy used in Laliga may not be effective in UCL. And yes, sometimes there has to be a little change. But if, for example, the strategy currently used is quite effective, then no change in strategy is not a problem. You just have to adapt to your opponent's playing style later. Hansi Flick seems to have learned a lot from the first UCL match. So he definitely won't make the Barcelona squad make a second mistake in the second match.

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Every team in the Champions League has just started their journey, so every team still has many opportunities, but Barcelona should not be compared with other teams. Barcelona should have won against the team they lost against. Maybe I will skip the discussion about the match that has gone but there is no guarantee that Barcelona will not repeat this performance in their future matches. Barcelona will have to change tactics. La Liga and Champions League tournaments are not the same, the opponents here are different strengths, so Barcelona has to play with different strategies for different tournaments. If Barcelona can plan and play according to the plan before each match, they can do well.

Barcelona's unexpected defeat to Monaco was caused by Barcelona playing with only 10 players from the 10th minute. Eric Garcia was sent off for a foul on a Monaco player, so the defeat was a mistake that should not be repeated in Barcelona's next Champions League match. It can be said that Barcelona is one of the teams that has the chance to qualify for the last 16 this season, but their performance at the start of the match was clearly not pleasant.

The next matches are against Getafe and Osasuna, after that it's against Young Boys for the home match in the Champions League. Barcelona are expected to win the home match, of course because the third match is much more difficult because Bayern Munich is the most frightening team so far with their goal productivity.

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ILeverkusen does not have a good defense which will be an advantage for Milan but Leverkusen might still be able to win Milan if their game strategy outsmarts that of Milan.

I won't say Leverkusen don't have a good defence as if they didn't have one then how did they go last season unbeaten and won their league. It might just be that they haven't gotten their rhythm this season but when they get it, they'll be strong again. Well the champions league is a different game altogether. Leverkusen didn't concede any goal in their last game but they scored four. They played against Feyenoord and were dominant in the whole game. Their next game is against Milan and there's every possibility that they're still going to win but it won't be by many goals as the last game. Leverkusen has alot to prove that they're not a one season wonder.

This year, they are really fighting for this. Both Xabi Alonso and the players are fighting to make them forget what they were told last year, that it was only a one-season success. The first match in the Champions League was amazing. They also had only one defeat in the league and were ahead in that match and then lost. Now they have the Bayern Munich match ahead of them and they should focus on it completely because the match is in Munich. You should always be in control in the matches you play away. I am sure the Spanish coach will implement this next week.

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We have to accept the fact that Barcelona did not perform well in the first match of the Champions League and that is why they lost. If Barcelona could have played their normal game in this match, they would not have been defeated in this match. Barcelona may have forgotten the last time they did well in the Champions League. Other teams try to do well in the Champions League or Europa League tournaments but we haven't seen anything like that in Barcelona for a few seasons. I understand that they have financial problems, but it cannot be said that they do not have good quality players in their club. With the players that are there if this player can be planned properly then I think good things can be done with this team.

It was a different kind of brilliance below the regular since this season that was exhibited by Barcelona in the champions League and that wasn't enough to give them a decent start, anyways they could get better after it was kickoff so many games are still ahead with which they can make up for the first time mess. The issue of quality players isn't something I think is of a top credence in Barcelona now as they have good players who in their domestic league is giving excellent results and need only some extra efforts to do better in the champions League.

Every team in the Champions League has just started their journey, so every team still has many opportunities, but Barcelona should not be compared with other teams. Barcelona should have won against the team they lost against. Maybe I will skip the discussion about the match that has gone but there is no guarantee that Barcelona will not repeat this performance in their future matches. Barcelona will have to change tactics. La Liga and Champions League tournaments are not the same, the opponents here are different strengths, so Barcelona has to play with different strategies for different tournaments. If Barcelona can plan and play according to the plan before each match, they can do well.

Are we forgetting the main cause of Barcelona's loss match to Monaco? It's like we have forgotten that it was Garcia's red card at 10 minutes of play disorganized the whole formation of the Barcelona team to hold Monaco to a draw or even win them. However, there is always a second leg, which I know, for a team to correct their mistake and win their opponent. We will see what happens next, whether Monaco will stand up tall when they face Barcelona in an away match. Towards then, we would see how mentally and physically fit the Barcelona teams are, under Hans Flick, to take Barcelona to great heights in the Champions League and Laliga League

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Quote from: Ruttoshi on September 23, 2024, 12:07:24 PM

ILeverkusen does not have a good defense which will be an advantage for Milan but Leverkusen might still be able to win Milan if their game strategy outsmarts that of Milan.

I won't say Leverkusen don't have a good defence as if they didn't have one then how did they go last season unbeaten and won their league. It might just be that they haven't gotten their rhythm this season but when they get it, they'll be strong again. Well the champions league is a different game altogether. Leverkusen didn't concede any goal in their last game but they scored four. They played against Feyenoord and were dominant in the whole game. Their next game is against Milan and there's every possibility that they're still going to win but it won't be by many goals as the last game. Leverkusen has alot to prove that they're not a one season wonder.

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We have to accept the fact that Barcelona did not perform well in the first match of the Champions League and that is why they lost. If Barcelona could have played their normal game in this match, they would not have been defeated in this match. Barcelona may have forgotten the last time they did well in the Champions League. Other teams try to do well in the Champions League or Europa League tournaments but we haven't seen anything like that in Barcelona for a few seasons. I understand that they have financial problems, but it cannot be said that they do not have good quality players in their club. With the players that are there if this player can be planned properly then I think good things can be done with this team.

It was a different kind of brilliance below the regular since this season that was exhibited by Barcelona in the champions League and that wasn't enough to give them a decent start, anyways they could get better after it was kickoff so many games are still ahead with which they can make up for the first time mess. The issue of quality players isn't something I think is of a top credence in Barcelona now as they have good players who in their domestic league is giving excellent results and need only some extra efforts to do better in the champions League.

Every team in the Champions League has just started their journey, so every team still has many opportunities, but Barcelona should not be compared with other teams. Barcelona should have won against the team they lost against. Maybe I will skip the discussion about the match that has gone but there is no guarantee that Barcelona will not repeat this performance in their future matches. Barcelona will have to change tactics. La Liga and Champions League tournaments are not the same, the opponents here are different strengths, so Barcelona has to play with different strategies for different tournaments. If Barcelona can plan and play according to the plan before each match, they can do well.

If Barcelona lost against Monaco, the red card had a big impact on this. Barcelona lost team discipline because they received a red card. Since they played shorthanded and were away, they probably had deficits and could not respond to the positions. Frankly, even a draw is good when there is a red card away, but Barcelona could not do this. Barcelona, who won 5-1 against Villarreal yesterday, would definitely have beaten Monaco with the same number of players, in my opinion. But this is football, a red card can disrupt the balance of the entire team.

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Quote from: KTChampions on September 23, 2024, 12:34:55 PM

Quote from: Docnaster on September 23, 2024, 11:11:11 AM

It'll be almost impossible for Atalanta to win the UEFA Champions League and that's because of there are over seven teams in the competition that have better quality players as well as players with more experience of the competition than Atalanta but drawing their first match of the season in the competition doesn't necessarily mean that Atalanta will not be able to have a good European campaign. Arsenal who also couldn't beat Atalanta in their first game of the season in the competition also stands a chance of reaching at least the semi finals of the competition despite not winning in the first game. It's too early to predict which team will do well or not in the UEFA Champions League competition this season if you ask me because of how difficult and complicating the new format is

Last year Dortmund (who finished 5th in the Bundesliga lol) reached the Champions League final and they had a few good chances to open the scoring before Real coocked them.
It's not every year that we see a clear underdog in the final, but it does happen sometimes and sooner or later someone will repeat Porto's feat (by the way, there were two underdogs in the final then, haha).
And by the way, it seems to me that Atalanta in the playoff format is not that much weaker than other contenders.

If there is a year we will see an underdog in the Champions League, I think this year will be one. As it stands mow, it is not yet clear who will be reaching the semi finals. Barcelona is at the verge of being eliminated by Monaco and if this happens, then Manaco will be a team to watch. Their style of play is great and with what they played Barcelona, they can challenge any team including Manchester City and the dreaded Real Madrid. Although we will be talking about Champions league experience when we get to that stage.

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