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October 17, 2024, 06:59:14 PM

Bologna and Girona do not have as big a chance as Leverkusen in the Champions League, because in my opinion Leverkusen is on a different level in terms of quality from the two teams. Leverkusen has clarity in strategy, the point is there is a vision that can be seen when they play on the field. Girona and Bologna only performed well last season and are not necessarily able to do the same. So if you look at the probability, Girona and Bologna will be eliminated from the Champions League competition faster. Tickets in the play-offs are also not a guarantee to be able to go further.
They are a debutant club in the Champions League and it is very difficult for them to compete in a big competition like this especially with the surprise last season which is actually difficult for them to repeat this season of course Bologna and Girona are just decorations just like Union Berlin and several surprise clubs last season who became decorations in the Champions League.

But in the end I think this is a good capital for them because after all being in the Champions League is a dream and still provides benefits for them in the additional financial bonuses they get especially for clubs that are still in a standard condition from a financial point of view it is already a positive thing and the most important thing is that they get good experience by being in a big competition like this so that the results are not a significant problem but the impact given to the mentality and situation of the club will change after being in the Champions League of course.
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October 17, 2024, 06:49:42 PM

Even if you have a strong team like Real Madrid still, you will have some problems with this team. We know Real Madrid is a good rea mad they got palyers like Mbappe and Vini jr there and this can help Real Madrid to easily get good results in the great tournaments like the Champions League but the fact about Real Madrid is Vini is not in the good form and Mbappe is still far from his good performance we saw from him before in PSG.
This can be a reason to say there is even the chance for Real Madrid to lose the title of the Champions League to another team like Inter Milan in this season.

So are you saying Vini pulled all those performance  since the beginning of the season just by luck and not in his usual form Roll Eyes. I don't know why you'll don't want to talk about what's going on with the team, from mbappe needs to adapt to not in form... I mean mbappe was not around for some games and they couldn't still get something done. They are all still playing good just as they used to apart from mbappe i noticed a slight change but he still fits to some extent,imo the team is not in some kinda good relationship with each other especially the forward and the wingers, mbappe presence should have brought more opportunities but instead it worsen which mean something isn't right with that region and I've seen some obvious scene which portraits it. I'm not being too judgy but Ancelotti needs to find a way to rotate the players from playing at the same time if possible unless they're willing to co-operate with each other... they should archieve more with their squad.
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October 17, 2024, 06:49:23 PM
These are some of the favorites that are worth betting on but in multi-betting it is risky as we don't know which team will surprise.

Although I won't be betting now as there are still leagues to start first so here are my options for Champions League betting.
Odds are still looking for the best option of course this is not the final.
But has anyone bet on all the 1X2 matches?
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October 17, 2024, 06:38:17 PM
Even if you have a strong team like Real Madrid still, you will have some problems with this team. We know Real Madrid is a good rea mad they got palyers like Mbappe and Vini jr there and this can help Real Madrid to easily get good results in the great tournaments like the Champions League but the fact about Real Madrid is Vini is not in the good form and Mbappe is still far from his good performance we saw from him before in PSG.
This can be a reason to say there is even the chance for Real Madrid to lose the title of the Champions League to another team like Inter Milan in this season.
There is no team that has no problem. Sure, Real Madrid also has a problem, they still can't optimize their performance since Mbappe joined the team. In theory, Real Madrid will be stronger when they have a strong attacker like Mbappe. But in fact, Mbappe can't contribute much to help Real Madrid. He even makes Ancelotti to change some matters (tactics, formation, and lineup). Real Madrid also becomes inconsistent in some matches, they got 3 draws in La Liga and got 1 lose in UCL. This is not a good sign for Real Madrid performance this season. Even if Real Madrid is still the king of UCL, it looks like to be a hard season for Real Madrid. If there is no change in Real Madrid performance, I also favor other teams to win UCL trophy. Juventus, Dortmund, Liverpool, Leverkusen, Man City, and Inter Milan look to have a more promising chance to join the race for UCL trophy.

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October 17, 2024, 06:22:03 PM

But they will have to replace Salah soon. However, since Liverpool has been turned into a real powerhouse over the last seven to eight years, it is much easier to convince some of the best strikers in the world to go there. Remember that Klopp had to build him team from scratch when it was in shambles. I think this is why so many people admire Klopp. He turned Borussia Dortmund into a beast back then and he did the same with Liverpool.

Yes, it is a fact that Salah is going to be substituted, but based on what we see we take into great consideration the things that are established with the team, for me he is still performing, I know that for next season they can renew the team, however many believe that City will make the difference again, but Liverpool are playing a lot, and I also see that Lucho Diaz is doing very well, he is playing very motivated and that helps the team a lot, I think that Klopp left the foundations well established for them, for me it is very difficult that if they play with a lot of order another team can beat them.

Salah's replacement or substitution isn't going to be nay soon so i personally wouldn't want to see that as a challenge to really express fears around at this time as it may feel too early to be expressing such concerns already, his performance is still very much okay such that he isn't reflecting any form of age interfering in his abilities at the moment, and i believe they are not  going to be able to start scouting the replacement already. Klop built a foundation that will last a whole long time such that managers that comes after him can consolidate long enough on such.

Mohamed Salah is still one of Liverpool's top performers, a prolific scorer with experience in the attacking department and intelligence and technique. 
He is still quite fit for his age, so he shouldn't be out as he is still fit to play football. Being the main attacking player in Liverpool team and he is a very hardworking player, the coach of the team is still quite satisfied with him.
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October 17, 2024, 05:35:02 PM
Surprises in the champions league isn't new as it's something that happens almost often although it's on the final stages of the competition that things begin to take sharp and the usual clubs that we know are the biggest begins to win and finally lift the trophy. The last time an underdog won the trophy was when Chelsea won it against a very strong Manchester City. Since then It has always been the best teams that wins it. Dortmund tried last season but Real Madrid were just better than them and with their many years of experience and a very experienced manager, it helped them to lift the torphy, we're going to have more surprises this season but I don't think we'll get new winners.
That is the thing that made Champions League look special, because mostly toward the end of the season we always came across some upcoming teams that will came as a surprise, which some get success by luck. Although in Champions League mostly experienced teams are always at the top. Take and instance of last season no one expected Dortmund will make it to the finals, but they did, even though they didn’t win but at least they try there best. But for this season I know it will be very tough then we expect but let see how it will end.

This season it's hard for me to guess who will make it to the final, but a few favorite teams can always be identified.
Real Madrid and Manchester City are two favorite teams who can be counted on to progress from one stage to another until they reach the final, but we never know what will happen to them in the knockout stages this season.

Real Madrid has suffered 1 defeat in the group stage against Lille, while Manchester City was held to a draw by Inter in the first match. These two favorites did not get as smooth a result as expected, Bayern Munich was the same. At the top of the standings currently is Dortmund with 2 wins, while Liverpool and several other teams with the same points are in the position below. But there are still 6 matches in this round and we will find 8 of them qualify for the round of 16 and the other 16 will compete in the playoffs.

Real Madrid has a fantastic track record of scoring goals in the league, and despite some player injuries, they have consistently performed well in the Champions League. I feel Madrid or Manchester City are the top contenders to win the UCL this season. Liverpool is performing well and may win the UCL. They are currently leading the league and have a new coach who is strengthening the team effectively. Let's see what they'll do in the UCL vs Madrid if they meet.

If they can try and win Madrid I can say they can get the opportunity of winning the trophy, because Madrid is a big club and they are the best in the Champions League every season so if Liverpool can defeat madrid no one they can't win again because is real madrid is the boss in all competitions if they participated. But he won't be so easy for them to achieve the victory because Ancelotti is a great coach that is why madrid are processing every season since they have a better coach in the club.

Even if you have a strong team like Real Madrid still, you will have some problems with this team. We know Real Madrid is a good rea mad they got palyers like Mbappe and Vini jr there and this can help Real Madrid to easily get good results in the great tournaments like the Champions League but the fact about Real Madrid is Vini is not in the good form and Mbappe is still far from his good performance we saw from him before in PSG.
This can be a reason to say there is even the chance for Real Madrid to lose the title of the Champions League to another team like Inter Milan in this season.


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October 17, 2024, 05:20:57 PM
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Unfortunately for Leipzig, this new and far different CL version has been more than negative. At least until now. The game against Liverpool though, I doubt that it will be different for them. The Reds this season look very solid and serious with all their opponents and if they get out from serious injuries, can be a favorite to reach at least the quarter-finals.
Not just to the quarter-finals - I expect Liverpool to make it through to the final this season.
I hope Arne Slot can make this wish come true in his first season at Liverpool - but I admit it's a difficult target for him. But first - I want Liverpool to maintain this good performance by continuing to win game after game in this round. Leipzig are not particularly strong - but they can also capitalize on mistakes if Liverpool underestimate this team.

The 6 teams that Liverpool will face in the next 6 matches are: Leipzig, Leverkusen, Real Madrid, Girona, Lille and PSV. So far I only think Real Madrid is stronger than Liverpool - I can still hope Liverpool can beat the others.
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October 17, 2024, 05:16:40 PM

But they will have to replace Salah soon. However, since Liverpool has been turned into a real powerhouse over the last seven to eight years, it is much easier to convince some of the best strikers in the world to go there. Remember that Klopp had to build him team from scratch when it was in shambles. I think this is why so many people admire Klopp. He turned Borussia Dortmund into a beast back then and he did the same with Liverpool.

Yes, it is a fact that Salah is going to be substituted, but based on what we see we take into great consideration the things that are established with the team, for me he is still performing, I know that for next season they can renew the team, however many believe that City will make the difference again, but Liverpool are playing a lot, and I also see that Lucho Diaz is doing very well, he is playing very motivated and that helps the team a lot, I think that Klopp left the foundations well established for them, for me it is very difficult that if they play with a lot of order another team can beat them.

Salah's replacement or substitution isn't going to be nay soon so i personally wouldn't want to see that as a challenge to really express fears around at this time as it may feel too early to be expressing such concerns already, his performance is still very much okay such that he isn't reflecting any form of age interfering in his abilities at the moment, and i believe they are not  going to be able to start scouting the replacement already. Klop built a foundation that will last a whole long time such that managers that comes after him can consolidate long enough on such.
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October 17, 2024, 05:10:22 PM
You should also check their performance in their own domestic league in this season, both Bologna and Girona performance are terrible, while Leverkusen is still fine even though not as strong as in the last season. But, Leverkusen met easier opponents, like Milan and Feyenoord, which is nothing surprising they can won those match.

After all we still have many upcoming match, Girona is quite lucky their opponent not that strong.
Bayer Leverkusen is quite better than Girona and feyenoord put together in terms of performance and results this season, Girona are first timers in the champions league and are not used to playing in this kind of competition whereas Feyenoord have not been frequent in the competition as a result of their shortcomings due to their failure to qualify for the tournament, though Bayer Leverkusen also had similar issues but not until they contracted the Spanish coach who came in turned things around and now they have reclaimed back their status as one of Europe's elite club and haven't really disappointed the fans yet on their quest to conquer Europe just as they did in the German bundesliga and I won't be surprised if that happens because in football a lot of miracles do happen.

The performance of Bayer Leverkusen csn not be compared to that of their opponent when compared to the current form of the teams, you already pointed out the difference between the teams and how new they are in the champions league games which I think is one or the advantage of Bayer Leverkusen playing against them not juat that but the performance of the teams in their domestic league shows that they have little or no chance against Leverkusen. I think Leverkusen doesn't need a miracle this time they just need to stay focus be concentrate on getting better because they have a better chance of going far in the champions league this season.
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Salah stayed for this season luckily. However Liverpool wouldn't get this lucky next time. There have already been Saudi clubs going after him. You know how much one of them got close last summer.  Smiley

Not only Salah though. They might lose Diaz too as he was also speculated in the same transfer window. I mean there isn't such thing as they can't find anyone to replace them. But these players are literally the main goal sources. Liverpool will need to work hard surely. But for now, they don't need to worry. Arne Slot has started impressive. I hope to see his club being determined in the PL and CL both this season.

Liverpool seriously have lots on their hands to worry about because if we look at the players currently running out of contract I think they need to start considering strongly some replacements, players like Arnold, Van Dijk and Sallah who are all leaders are looking more like to leave with the Saga surrounding their future right now.

For Sallah the Saudi pro proposal is definitely looking juicy for him and considering his age he might want to actually look towards there, for most players it is usually the lifestyle there that hinders their move but that wouldn’t be a big problem for Sallah as his faith definitely fits him there. The likes of Van Dijk is he would be using his age to make his own decisions too and considering that he himself has won virtually every trophy then it wouldn’t surprise to see him too leave.

Arnold on the hand is the one I don’t likely see moving because he is a Liverpool kid Abi a potential captain if this two above leave, but considering that it is Madrid coming for his signature I wouldn’t be surprised to also see him jump the ship also. As for Luiz Diaz I don’t see him getting sold, he was on the market this summer due to Liverpool looking to raise money and him having a bad start to his career their but his season so far might be the reason he is looked upon to the future more
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But they will have to replace Salah soon. However, since Liverpool has been turned into a real powerhouse over the last seven to eight years, it is much easier to convince some of the best strikers in the world to go there. Remember that Klopp had to build him team from scratch when it was in shambles. I think this is why so many people admire Klopp. He turned Borussia Dortmund into a beast back then and he did the same with Liverpool.
Sooner or later they have to look for alternatives to replace Salah but until now it cannot be denied that Salah still plays a very big role for Liverpool so I think there is no harm in trying to open talks for a shorter-term contract because his strength is still needed.

Unless indeed Livrepool wants to make another gamble just like when they recruited Slot as coach this season then indeed releasing him at the end of the season can still be done even though there will definitely be a lot of pros and cons about this.
Salah's age is 32 years old but his performance at Liverpool is still very vital especially for the problem of scoring goals so in this case there will be a lot of considerations like for Liverpool because after all everything that is done has a risk but I personally feel that they will still try to secure the services of this player at least for the next 1 or 2 seasons.
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October 17, 2024, 04:54:54 PM
Salah stayed for this season luckily. However Liverpool wouldn't get this lucky next time. There have already been Saudi clubs going after him. You know how much one of them got close last summer.  Smiley
If Liverpool still hopes Salah to stay and offer a good contract extension, I think Salah will continue to stay in Liverpool. Even if Saudi teams try to sign salah and offer him with huge salary, I think Salah still wants to focus on playing in the top league in the world (EPL). It will be good for his career if he stays to play in the most competitive league.

Not only Salah though. They might lose Diaz too as he was also speculated in the same transfer window. I mean there isn't such thing as they can't find anyone to replace them. But these players are literally the main goal sources. Liverpool will need to work hard surely. But for now, they don't need to worry. Arne Slot has started impressive.
I still don't see a rumor that Diaz will leave Liverpool? He still has a long contract, it is until June 30, 2027. I think Diaz will stay in Liverpool as long as he can play regularly. Diaz becomes an important player for Liverpool, he often contributed well. I think there is no reason that Liverpool will put him on the transfer list, too. Arne Slot has done great jobs so far, he also cares with the players. I never heard bad rumors about the relationship of the players with Arne Slots.

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But they will have to replace Salah soon. However, since Liverpool has been turned into a real powerhouse over the last seven to eight years, it is much easier to convince some of the best strikers in the world to go there. Remember that Klopp had to build him team from scratch when it was in shambles. I think this is why so many people admire Klopp. He turned Borussia Dortmund into a beast back then and he did the same with Liverpool.

Yes, it is a fact that Salah is going to be substituted, but based on what we see we take into great consideration the things that are established with the team, for me he is still performing, I know that for next season they can renew the team, however many believe that City will make the difference again, but Liverpool are playing a lot, and I also see that Lucho Diaz is doing very well, he is playing very motivated and that helps the team a lot, I think that Klopp left the foundations well established for them, for me it is very difficult that if they play with a lot of order another team can beat them.
I think Liverpool may still wants Salah to remain with them next season, though they will be considering his replacement now and hope such player can really be consistent and be able to contribute for a long time on the team success like he has been doing. Luis Diaz has been among their best player this season and currently the main key in their attack, I hope he continue with his form for long.

In the aspect of Manchester City and Liverpool, City has been doing more better than Liverpool, especially these past two seasons where Liverpool has failed to be consistent notably last season where they're like the best team to win the EPL and possibly get the Europa league also but shockingly fell off in both, I don't know what this season in the Champions league holds for them, they make it to the quarter or semi  finals, depending how consistent they are and how severe the injury crisis they may suffer this season.
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October 17, 2024, 03:46:19 PM

Although not everything has gone smoothly, so far Liverpool has shown its quality as a team that is ready to provide competition. Liverpool increasing performance cannot be separated from the gentle touch of Arne Slot, it must be admitted, his task is not easy because he continues Jurgen Klopp duties as one of the most successful coaches in the club's history. Minor issues like these can be ironed out over time, but so far, Slots has performed very well, even exceeding expectations. Currently Liverpool players are very confident with the positive results they continue to achieve, if it continues like this, I am very optimistic that Liverpool will go further than expected.

Yes, it is partly due to what we always see in any team, but the work that Klopp did is very big, he left a very well-armed team, minor problems are easy to solve, they already have a good base, and that is fundamental in a team, there are teams that have not been able to reach that balance, for example Chelsea, for me it is a team that lacks a lot, I don't know if players, coach, but honestly there are things that are difficult to see what is missing, that is why Liverpool has that great advantage and that Slot did not arrive with that arrogant attitude that does what he says and forget the work they did with Klopp.
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October 17, 2024, 03:44:44 PM
Leipzig is actually in good form in their domestic league at the moment, namely in the Bundesliga. They have never lost at the start of this season in the Bundesliga. The points they have are also the same as the number of points Bayern Munich has. But the problem is that Leipzig immediately got a tough opponent at the start of this UCL match. We know the first team they faced was Atletico Madrid, and then Juventus. And we know that these two teams are strong teams from Laliga and Serie A. And now in the third match, Leipzig also has to face a strong team from the Premier League. Well I'm a little pessimistic for Leipzig. Because Liverpool can be said to be stronger than their previous opponents. Atletico Madrid and Juventus may be strong but I feel Liverpool seems stronger at the moment. Because in the Premier League, Liverpool has managed to top the current standings. And I think Leipzig will suffer their third defeat against Liverpool.
While this is a great achievement for them at Bundesliga, this doesn't mean they are going to be great at UCL neither, we are not going to see similar stories in both competitions. I also think Leipzig isn't looking great at Bundesliga neither if you ask me, they had a good start but we do not know how they will continue, they could have a great future, or they could have a terrible one, we have no idea and we are not going to know until very late neither.

I believe they are not a good enough squad for UCL, they are looking like they are going to have some trouble in the future and because of this we are going to end up with a lot of issues as well. We know what we are going to face with, and because of this we are going to end up with some troubles as well. I believe the best thing to do right now would be making sure Leipzig betting stays strictly between them and lower level teams, then we can know they are going to probably win those games.
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October 17, 2024, 03:12:43 PM

But they will have to replace Salah soon. However, since Liverpool has been turned into a real powerhouse over the last seven to eight years, it is much easier to convince some of the best strikers in the world to go there. Remember that Klopp had to build him team from scratch when it was in shambles. I think this is why so many people admire Klopp. He turned Borussia Dortmund into a beast back then and he did the same with Liverpool.

Salah stayed for this season luckily. However Liverpool wouldn't get this lucky next time. There have already been Saudi clubs going after him. You know how much one of them got close last summer.  Smiley

Not only Salah though. They might lose Diaz too as he was also speculated in the same transfer window. I mean there isn't such thing as they can't find anyone to replace them. But these players are literally the main goal sources. Liverpool will need to work hard surely. But for now, they don't need to worry. Arne Slot has started impressive. I hope to see his club being determined in the PL and CL both this season.
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October 17, 2024, 01:46:49 PM
Bologna and Girona do not have as big a chance as Leverkusen in the Champions League, because in my opinion Leverkusen is on a different level in terms of quality from the two teams. Leverkusen has clarity in strategy, the point is there is a vision that can be seen when they play on the field. Girona and Bologna only performed well last season and are not necessarily able to do the same. So if you look at the probability, Girona and Bologna will be eliminated from the Champions League competition faster. Tickets in the play-offs are also not a guarantee to be able to go further.

These two teams are not at the level to be in the Champions League at this time, but it is still a matter of pride for both Girona and Bologna to compete in the Champions League. Although it will be very difficult to qualify in the group stage, they will still play their matches to the maximum. Unlike Leverkusen, they have Alonso as a very competent coach. Plus, the players are quite qualified. However, Leverkusen also has a strong opposing team, Leverkusen has matches against Liverpool, Leipzig, Inter and ATM. The rest of the opposing teams seem to be able to be handled theoretically. Well, whether it's Girona, Bologna, or even Leverkusen, it doesn't guarantee that they will qualify for the Champions League play-off round. Let's see, after all, all teams have only played two matches in the qualifying round to qualify for the next phase.
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it is not certain given that the results this year can change as we have already seen, and it is no coincidence if teams like these manage to score and move forward in the competition, it is not easy but not impossible so everything is up to them to commit and show that even small things can hurt

A mediocre club like them often makes the big teams unprepared and brings surprises and different colors, as achieved by Lille when they beat Real Madrid they played quite well in any aspect not being careless in closing the space is a good thing they showed. So I think the same as you said that these small teams usually make the standings more chaotic but in the end they will also come out maybe in this round they can be a little bit of a tunnel but walking again I think the small teams are gone

Although at the beginning like this in the qualifying round like this there were surprises that happened, about non-seeded teams managing to draw or even beat the seeded teams but still, in the end or in the final match later the top team or seeded team will succeed in playing in the finalmatch. But indeed, like last season at least the seeded team played against the non-seeded team in the final match but if that happens, then ofcourse the seeded team will succeed and can be sure to win, and the final match will not be too interesting.

Because after all, if the final match brings together top team v top team or seeded team v seeded team, then any result is still possible, because the teams have equally good quality or have above average quality. So, even though at this moment there is a non-seeded team that managed to make good results, they still cannot guarantee to be able to maintain their position, because over time of course there will be a revival that is successfully  carried out by the seeded teams.
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October 17, 2024, 01:39:03 PM

But they will have to replace Salah soon. However, since Liverpool has been turned into a real powerhouse over the last seven to eight years, it is much easier to convince some of the best strikers in the world to go there. Remember that Klopp had to build him team from scratch when it was in shambles. I think this is why so many people admire Klopp. He turned Borussia Dortmund into a beast back then and he did the same with Liverpool.

Yes, it is a fact that Salah is going to be substituted, but based on what we see we take into great consideration the things that are established with the team, for me he is still performing, I know that for next season they can renew the team, however many believe that City will make the difference again, but Liverpool are playing a lot, and I also see that Lucho Diaz is doing very well, he is playing very motivated and that helps the team a lot, I think that Klopp left the foundations well established for them, for me it is very difficult that if they play with a lot of order another team can beat them.
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October 17, 2024, 01:38:18 PM
Real Madrid has a fantastic track record of scoring goals in the league, and despite some player injuries, they have consistently performed well in the Champions League. I feel Madrid or Manchester City are the top contenders to win the UCL this season. Liverpool is performing well and may win the UCL. They are currently leading the league and have a new coach who is strengthening the team effectively. Let's see what they'll do in the UCL vs Madrid if they meet.

If they can try and win Madrid I can say they can get the opportunity of winning the trophy, because Madrid is a big club and they are the best in the Champions League every season so if Liverpool can defeat madrid no one they can't win again because is real madrid is the boss in all competitions if they participated. But he won't be so easy for them to achieve the victory because Ancelotti is a great coach that is why madrid are processing every season since they have a better coach in the club.

Real Madrid has a strong record in the Champions League, so they are among the favorites to win it this season. With Liverpool's current players, I don't think they'll perform well throughout the season, they managed to beat AC Milan and Bologna, but their performance against Bologna was poor. Bologna has been out of this competition for a while, and their performance is still poor, so I expected Liverpool to score three or four goals but they won with two goals against an opponent who has won just a single league game this season.

Furthermore, winning against Real Madrid doesn't mean that a team can win the Champions League. Since Real Madrid hasn't been playing well this season, does their loss to Lille in their last match mean that Lille can win the Champions League this season as well? Lille defeated Real Madrid, but they are not one of the teams that can win the Champions League this season. The match between Real Madrid and Liverpool is always difficult, and both teams will give it everything they have.
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