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I really liked Qarabag in the Europa League last season. They seem a huge favourite in this one too. Fenerbahçe have Mourinho as their new manager. They seem really strong so they shouldn't even get a draw against their much weaker opponent. I feel like APOEL and Dynamo Kiev won't also make a mistake.
Qarabaq FK is a strong club. Fenerbahce is also a strong team coached by Mourinho. Because this is still qualifying for round 2, I didn't bet considering that I only know a few teams, which makes it easier for me to judge. Meanwhile, some of the teams that will be their opponents are unknown, making it difficult for me to make bets. If I bet on a team that is favored by the bookmaker, it's not interesting.
Hopefully your bet based on this list will win.
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July 23, 2024, 06:58:57 AM
A team like Arsenal has no chance of winning a major title if it plays in different competitions. In my opinion, a team like Arsenal lacks the strength to compete for the Champions League and the Premier League, instead, they should focus on winning one, however, every club that qualifies for the Champions League is expected to win the trophy but Arsenal goal should be one because we saw how it affected their performance last season, the players lacked the strength to compete in many tournaments at once. I believe Arteta should focus on winning the Premier League next season because competing in multiple competitions reduces their performance, they must lose one to win one.
I thought I was the only one that noticed that arsenal really sucks Tongue when it comes to Champions  league, like they don't even put effort to make it pass group stage or probably they just what to focus on their League only or we might just conclude that they just lack the strength.
Afterall, the League they are used to focusing  on is not always favouring them, maybe if they put more effort next season then they might be able to accomplish their aim to be the Premier league champions once again  but tbh they need to prepare  more next season if they want to accomplish that.

Arsenal's elimination from the Champions League last season was not because they focused on Premier League games, Arsenal did not concentrate on the Premier League, which is why they used all of their key players to compete in the Champions League, it was just that they lacked the strength to compete in the Champions League, and Arteta seemed to give up. If you remember the game against Bayern Munich in the quarter-finals, you'll agree that Arsenal isn't good enough to compete in the Champions League. Arsenal has not won a trophy in a long time, and the last two seasons gave a perfect opportunity for them to do so. They don't need to fight like Manchester City, who won the treble the last two seasons, we believe that City has a good record of winning titles, but Arteta's next goal should be at least winning the Premier League, which other managers were unable to accomplish for the club for many years.
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July 23, 2024, 06:30:06 AM
Does that mean a club like Arsenal is not suited to winning big? Every club that participates in the Champions League has the same ambition, they will do their best and those who can be consistent until the end deserve to win. Arsenal has no doubt they have reached their best level in the last few seasons and will continue like that if Mikel Arteta is still at this club, I think they will definitely get one of our prestigious trophies, it's just a matter of time.
Arsenal opportunity to win the Champions League trophy is very open, where in general a team success is determined by how well it prepares. especially Arsenal, Arteta fleet now looks very ready to compete for trophies, even though the competition will never be easy. Arsenal ambitions can be seen from the player transfer policy, Arteta has received adequate budget support to build squad depth, previously Arsenal was known to be very frugal in spending. Next season, even though the competition will not be easy, I think Arsenal presence will be taken into account. It's true, maybe it's just a matter of time, what is clear is that they have to try to be one step ahead from last season.

I enjoyed Arsenal's game last season, I think this season Arteta's squad will be better prepared for all the competitions they participate.
But this time, Arteta has to win a prestigious trophy, the UEFA Champions League is good but winning the Premier League is the main thing, so close is not enough.
Riccardo Calafiori will strengthen Arsenal's defense, Calafiori to Arsenal is a good deal, he's a good defender, with great potential and obvious attributes, Defense is covered
And I will be very impressed if Arteta gets one more striker, a better-starting striker
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July 23, 2024, 06:25:22 AM
While everyone is discussing the last Champions League, some Cheesy teams are entering the fight for a place in the group stage, so today Fenebahce will play away from Lugano. This match attracted attention because Fenerbahce has recently been led by Mourinier, and if they win, their next opponent will be Lille.

José Mourinho is actually the kind of coach Fenerbahçe needs because his past records has been very impressive unlike most of the coaches José Mourinho is a very experienced coach that has been on several leagues, so we can imagine the impact he is going to make on Fenerbahçe, truly it has become clear that Fenerbahçe is ready for the upcoming season because they have everything sorted out. In regards to there match today against Lugano there is no way Fenerbahçe will not win them because currently they are very much in a good shape considering there previous matches, so we should expect more goals from them on that match because there previous matches has been a lot of goals for them.

Fenerbache will have their first match in the UCL qualifiers, facing Lugano, which we can say is not a strong team, Fenerbache should be able to get their first win in the match, their squad has undergone many changes after Mourinho took over the team and with his experience so far, of course Fenerbache fans have high hopes that their team can perform better, I see that their squad has brought in several experienced players from the European leagues, so it is very likely that this will make Fenerbache have a better prformance and mentality at this time in the UCL  qualifier, journey to bring Fenerbache through to the semi-league phase It might be very difficult for fenerbache, but with Mourinho and the support of good players, I am very confident that they can reach the semi-league phase of the UCL next season.
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July 23, 2024, 05:25:07 AM
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I really liked Qarabag in the Europa League last season. They seem a huge favourite in this one too. Fenerbahçe have Mourinho as their new manager. They seem really strong so they shouldn't even get a draw against their much weaker opponent. I feel like APOEL and Dynamo Kiev won't also make a mistake.
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July 23, 2024, 05:18:34 AM

A team like Arsenal has no chance of winning a major title if it plays in different competitions. In my opinion, a team like Arsenal lacks the strength to compete for the Champions League and the Premier League, instead, they should focus on winning one, however, every club that qualifies for the Champions League is expected to win the trophy but Arsenal goal should be one because we saw how it affected their performance last season, the players lacked the strength to compete in many tournaments at once. I believe Arteta should focus on winning the Premier League next season because competing in multiple competitions reduces their performance, they must lose one to win one.
I thought I was the only one that noticed that arsenal really sucks Tongue when it comes to Champions  league, like they don't even put effort to make it pass group stage or probably they just what to focus on their League only or we might just conclude that they just lack the strength.
Afterall, the League they are used to focusing  on is not always favouring them, maybe if they put more effort next season then they might be able to accomplish their aim to be the Premier league champions once again  but tbh they need to prepare  more next season if they want to accomplish that.
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July 23, 2024, 05:16:40 AM
While everyone is discussing the last Champions League, some teams are entering the fight for a place in the group stage, so today Fenebahce will play away from Lugano. This match attracted attention because Fenerbahce has recently been led by Mourinier, and if they win, their next opponent will be Lille. This is a very serious test for the team and also for Mourinier, who recently seems to have begun to lose his authority a little. If he can take Fenerbahçe to the group stage of the Champions League, this will be a very significant achievement.
Fenerbahce will win against Lugano, Lugano can't even become a champion in Super League, they're nothing compared to Fenerbahce which often become a runner up in tougher league. Lille vs Fenerbahce will be interesting match, I expect Fenerbahce will be favorite since people think having Mourinho will boost their performance.

They have 2 match, I think the first match Lille will win with small margin since the match will start in Decathlon Arena-Stade Pierre-Mauroy aka their home town.
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July 23, 2024, 04:57:44 AM
But we also have to look at Dortmund, which is now bringing Guirassy, which could be a threat to Madrid.

How can Guirassy presence at Dortmund be a threat to Real Madrid? I disagree with you because Guirassy lacked an experienced attacker who could provide him with plenty of goals, while Mbappe had Vinicius and Rodrygo on his side. Real Madrid will still be the greatest next season, and I don't believe any team will be able to compete with them.

Does that mean a club like Arsenal is not suited to winning big? Every club that participates in the Champions League has the same ambition, they will do their best and those who can be consistent until the end deserve to win. Arsenal has no doubt they have reached their best level in the last few seasons and will continue like that if Mikel Arteta is still at this club, I think they will definitely get one of our prestigious trophies, it's just a matter of time.

A team like Arsenal has no chance of winning a major title if it plays in different competitions. In my opinion, a team like Arsenal lacks the strength to compete for the Champions League and the Premier League, instead, they should focus on winning one, however, every club that qualifies for the Champions League is expected to win the trophy but Arsenal goal should be one because we saw how it affected their performance last season, the players lacked the strength to compete in many tournaments at once. I believe Arteta should focus on winning the Premier League next season because competing in multiple competitions reduces their performance, they must lose one to win one.
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July 23, 2024, 04:53:18 AM
While everyone is discussing the last Champions League, some teams are entering the fight for a place in the group stage, so today Fenebahce will play away from Lugano. This match attracted attention because Fenerbahce has recently been led by Mourinier, and if they win, their next opponent will be Lille.

José Mourinho is actually the kind of coach Fenerbahçe needs because his past records has been very impressive unlike most of the coaches José Mourinho is a very experienced coach that has been on several leagues, so we can imagine the impact he is going to make on Fenerbahçe, truly it has become clear that Fenerbahçe is ready for the upcoming season because they have everything sorted out. In regards to there match today against Lugano there is no way Fenerbahçe will not win them because currently they are very much in a good shape considering there previous matches, so we should expect more goals from them on that match because there previous matches has been a lot of goals for them.
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July 23, 2024, 03:56:58 AM
While everyone is discussing the last Champions League, some teams are entering the fight for a place in the group stage, so today Fenebahce will play away from Lugano. This match attracted attention because Fenerbahce has recently been led by Mourinier, and if they win, their next opponent will be Lille. This is a very serious test for the team and also for Mourinier, who recently seems to have begun to lose his authority a little. If he can take Fenerbahçe to the group stage of the Champions League, this will be a very significant achievement.
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July 23, 2024, 03:14:55 AM
Does that mean a club like Arsenal is not suited to winning big? Every club that participates in the Champions League has the same ambition, they will do their best and those who can be consistent until the end deserve to win. Arsenal has no doubt they have reached their best level in the last few seasons and will continue like that if Mikel Arteta is still at this club, I think they will definitely get one of our prestigious trophies, it's just a matter of time.
Arsenal opportunity to win the Champions League trophy is very open, where in general a team success is determined by how well it prepares. especially Arsenal, Arteta fleet now looks very ready to compete for trophies, even though the competition will never be easy. Arsenal ambitions can be seen from the player transfer policy, Arteta has received adequate budget support to build squad depth, previously Arsenal was known to be very frugal in spending. Next season, even though the competition will not be easy, I think Arsenal presence will be taken into account. It's true, maybe it's just a matter of time, what is clear is that they have to try to be one step ahead from last season.
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July 23, 2024, 02:52:24 AM
I believe Arsenal can go further in the Champions League and also try as hard as possible in the Premier League, the most important thing is that Mikel Arteta can always overcome existing mistakes without having to feel pressured because Manchester City will always remain their main competitor. I have seen in the last 2 seasons actually Manchester City is not much different from Arsenal, as long as this club remains focused, then they can break Man City's dominance.
Manchester City and other elite clubs have been amazing and promising in the UEFA Champions League, just a better call for the big winning. Arsenal have everything, the one thing that keeps them up is hope and determination. Mikel Arteta have packed his best strategies infront and there's certainly going to be evidence for the team, it may not be now but in the nearest future, there's certainly full hope and success is ahead.
Does that mean a club like Arsenal is not suited to winning big? Every club that participates in the Champions League has the same ambition, they will do their best and those who can be consistent until the end deserve to win. Arsenal has no doubt they have reached their best level in the last few seasons and will continue like that if Mikel Arteta is still at this club, I think they will definitely get one of our prestigious trophies, it's just a matter of time.

Yes, I agree with you, every team that participates has the ambition to win and if you don't have it, you get thrown out immediately because it's clear that not only does the strongest win but also the one who is most stubborn and intent on winning and that's he absolutely needs an iron mentality to get to the end, something that is missing from the "small" teams, people who are inculcated with the winning mentality like Real Madrid, Juventus etc.. where winning is the only thing that counts..
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July 23, 2024, 12:21:09 AM
I believe Arsenal can go further in the Champions League and also try as hard as possible in the Premier League, the most important thing is that Mikel Arteta can always overcome existing mistakes without having to feel pressured because Manchester City will always remain their main competitor. I have seen in the last 2 seasons actually Manchester City is not much different from Arsenal, as long as this club remains focused, then they can break Man City's dominance.
Manchester City and other elite clubs have been amazing and promising in the UEFA Champions League, just a better call for the big winning. Arsenal have everything, the one thing that keeps them up is hope and determination. Mikel Arteta have packed his best strategies infront and there's certainly going to be evidence for the team, it may not be now but in the nearest future, there's certainly full hope and success is ahead.
Does that mean a club like Arsenal is not suited to winning big? Every club that participates in the Champions League has the same ambition, they will do their best and those who can be consistent until the end deserve to win. Arsenal has no doubt they have reached their best level in the last few seasons and will continue like that if Mikel Arteta is still at this club, I think they will definitely get one of our prestigious trophies, it's just a matter of time.
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July 22, 2024, 11:09:19 PM
Absolutely, I totally understand that with time — as the UCL competition starts and progresses that myself and other people that find more clarity around the new format and other minor details are still vague. I don't think they would be new rules to the competition for a while after these recent changes so there'd be an ample amount of time to understand and experience the UCL under this new format. I have my fingers crossed that it will actually be a banger.
It's struggling to fully understand a new format of Champions League but with whatever format, strongest and biggest clubs will go through better than small clubs. When Champions League 2024 - 2025 season goes to its knock out phase, we will see it as normal and familiar as previous years.

The next season will be so interesting when Real Madrid already got Mbappe and increase their attacking power a lot. The number 9 given to Mbappe reminds me about Cristiano Ronaldo many years ago. He got number 9 for one or two seasons before Raúl González left and moved to Schalke 04.

Mbappe will play in the centre of Real Madrid attacking system next season with Vinicius Junior, Rodrygo, Endrick at two swings to support the French player. It is not favorite place of Mbappe and it reduces his danger from counter attacks with good speed too. Let's see how Mbappe will adapt to that position in a next season. He sometimes plays at this position in PSG and France teams but the next season will be a first season, he will mainly stick to that position.
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July 22, 2024, 06:48:06 PM
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In my opinion, this is a normal thing when at the beginning we don't understand a little, because usually we always use the old format and after the new format is officially introduced we have to study it again. I am sure that in the future we will really understand this format and hopefully this format can make the competition even more interesting.

Absolutely, I totally understand that with time — as the UCL competition starts and progresses that myself and other people that find more clarity around the new format and other minor details are still vague. I don't think they would be new rules to the competition for a while after these recent changes so there'd be an ample amount of time to understand and experience the UCL under this new format. I have my fingers crossed that it will actually be a banger.
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July 22, 2024, 06:29:24 PM
I believe Arsenal can go further in the Champions League and also try as hard as possible in the Premier League, the most important thing is that Mikel Arteta can always overcome existing mistakes without having to feel pressured because Manchester City will always remain their main competitor. I have seen in the last 2 seasons actually Manchester City is not much different from Arsenal, as long as this club remains focused, then they can break Man City's dominance.
Manchester City and other elite clubs have been amazing and promising in the UEFA Champions League, just a better call for the big winning. Arsenal have everything, the one thing that keeps them up is hope and determination. Mikel Arteta have packed his best strategies infront and there's certainly going to be evidence for the team, it may not be now but in the nearest future, there's certainly full hope and success is ahead.
Last season Arsenal managed to record impressive statistics by reaching the quarter-finals, in previous seasons they were only able to reach the last 16. Unfortunately, their steps were too difficult because they had to face Bayern Munich, which has a better reputation and mentality in the Champions League. Arteta certainly realizes that competing in European competition is much more difficult than the Premier League, and extra preparation is needed to become the best team in Europe. In my opinion, Arsenal are currently just unlucky, they have made their best efforts to achieve the target, the depth of the squad that Arteta has built is also no less good than Manchester City. Maybe Arsenal success is only a matter of time, so they can change history by winning their first trophy.
You've given an explicit explanation about the ordeal Arsenal was facing the last season, i remember the game they played against Bayern Munich, it was one of the match i felt Arsenal will easily win, they where at the top of their game that period, while Bayern Munich where struggling week-in  week-out to win their regular domestic league games, so Bayern Munich where literally out of shape at that period in time, which made a lot of people believe it was going to be Uhuru for the gunners.

But just as you've said, the Bayern team had a better mentality of the champions League and used it for their advantage, though the aggregate of 3-2 wasn't much but it was a enough to take them through.  Little by little the arsenal team have been gaining a lot of experience, and I also believe they will do better in next champions League.
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July 22, 2024, 05:13:51 PM
Last season Arsenal managed to record impressive statistics by reaching the quarter-finals, in previous seasons they were only able to reach the last 16. Unfortunately, their steps were too difficult because they had to face Bayern Munich, which has a better reputation and mentality in the Champions League. Arteta certainly realizes that competing in European competition is much more difficult than the Premier League, and extra preparation is needed to become the best team in Europe. In my opinion, Arsenal are currently just unlucky, they have made their best efforts to achieve the target, the depth of the squad that Arteta has built is also no less good than Manchester City. Maybe Arsenal success is only a matter of time, so they can change history by winning their first trophy.

Arsenal will always make move but they won’t go any were arsenal are always failing they hardly make anything possible, am not worried about arsenal because I know what arsenal is capable at this point even next season just watch arsenal will still do the same thing next season, imagine getting to quarter final and they were removed by Bayern Munich that is not even in a good state to show how poor arsenals performance can be and that is why they have not been able to win the premier league because they lack consistency. Arteta Is good but the fact that he still struggles just surprising, European competition are tough normally but Arteta should know the job is taking. Arsenal is not a serious club and that is why they are unlucky because they are not really ready to compete because they start well and in the middle they start fucking up.
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July 22, 2024, 04:20:56 PM
Last season Arsenal managed to record impressive statistics by reaching the quarter-finals, in previous seasons they were only able to reach the last 16. Unfortunately, their steps were too difficult because they had to face Bayern Munich, which has a better reputation and mentality in the Champions League. Arteta certainly realizes that competing in European competition is much more difficult than the Premier League, and extra preparation is needed to become the best team in Europe. In my opinion, Arsenal are currently just unlucky, they have made their best efforts to achieve the target, the depth of the squad that Arteta has built is also no less good than Manchester City. Maybe Arsenal success is only a matter of time, so they can change history by winning their first trophy.

Luck also lies in Arsenal becoming champions in a matter of time. They’ve done well as a team but they’re just unlucky not to have won any trophy till date. They have good players and a good coach that is seeing them through their affairs also. They’ve improved over the years since Arteta began to manage them. They were able to play in the champions league after a very long time and went as far as the quarterfinals of the competition which is a great achievement for a whole squad that have not played in the champions league before. Next season is another opportunity for them to win a trophy and go farther than the previous season in the champions league.

If they can be getting closer like this every season, moving one step ahead of the round they stopped the last season, will be a good one for them and will become champions one day also without minding all the obstacles that will stop them from achieving that milestone. Every team started somewhere, so theirs is not a new thing. They just need to remain consistent and continue this good form every season and try to improve on new strategy that can help them become who they truly want to become in the future as a team. Good prospect lies in this team that they’re yet to unlock but with time it’ll come upon them and they’ll be glad they never gave up throughout the struggle and bad days.
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July 22, 2024, 04:14:09 PM
I believe Arsenal can go further in the Champions League and also try as hard as possible in the Premier League, the most important thing is that Mikel Arteta can always overcome existing mistakes without having to feel pressured because Manchester City will always remain their main competitor. I have seen in the last 2 seasons actually Manchester City is not much different from Arsenal, as long as this club remains focused, then they can break Man City's dominance.
Manchester City and other elite clubs have been amazing and promising in the UEFA Champions League, just a better call for the big winning. Arsenal have everything, the one thing that keeps them up is hope and determination. Mikel Arteta have packed his best strategies infront and there's certainly going to be evidence for the team, it may not be now but in the nearest future, there's certainly full hope and success is ahead.
Last season Arsenal managed to record impressive statistics by reaching the quarter-finals, in previous seasons they were only able to reach the last 16. Unfortunately, their steps were too difficult because they had to face Bayern Munich, which has a better reputation and mentality in the Champions League. Arteta certainly realizes that competing in European competition is much more difficult than the Premier League, and extra preparation is needed to become the best team in Europe. In my opinion, Arsenal are currently just unlucky, they have made their best efforts to achieve the target, the depth of the squad that Arteta has built is also no less good than Manchester City. Maybe Arsenal success is only a matter of time, so they can change history by winning their first trophy.
I think EPL or UCL is the same value for Arsenal right now. They very much want to win both. I want to see Arsenal win the championship for the first time in years. This would be an important championship because the players and technical staff have been fighting for this championship for years. I hope they can win the first championship by winning the EPL this year. Then why not UCL?
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July 22, 2024, 04:09:19 PM
I don't know why you just concluded that Arsenal can't win the Champions League next season. I can also say Arsenal can win the Champions League next season. But if we were to mention the five teams that are favorites to win next season’s Champions League, I believe that Arsenal will be included in the list with their current performance. Arsenal is not a weak team that we can just conclude now that they can't achieve such a trophy. With the way Arsenal is beating their opponents currently, it is very possible they could fight for the Champions League next season.
I will not ignore Arsenal's potential in the Champions League next season, it's just that you have to admit that Arsenal's probability is no better than Real Madrid, Manchester City, Bayern Munich and several other top teams. Arsenal don't have a strong mentality when competing in the European arena like the Champions League, so I don't expect them to jump too high next season.

It's up to you how you convince yourself about Arsenal in the Champions League, I don't think Arsenal is mature enough to win it. On the other hand, I think Manchester City will be enthusiastic again next season in the race for the Champions League title besides Real Madrid, so I will put Arsenal in 5th or 6th position on the favorites list.
Agree with you. Indeed, Arsenal is on the list for the UCL League trophy next season because of the squad they have and some of Arteta's progress with Arsenal which continues to improve. However, their mentality in the UCL League is not yet mature compared to Real Madrid and Man City. However, Arsenal can become champions of the UCL League if Real Madrid and Man City lose first to other clubs. However, this scenario is difficult to happen, especially for Real Madrid, after Mbappe arrived it felt like it would be difficult for any team to beat them.

So I don't expect much from Arsenal in the UCL league next season because I believe their focus remains on the EPL league. In the UCL league, just being able to reach the semifinals is enough for them, because the atmosphere in the UCL league is very different, it not only requires a strong squad but also a mentality, and so far I haven't seen that at Arsenal. .
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