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July 19, 2024, 04:02:04 AM
I don't think any team is afraid or worried about Arsenal's presence and in fact other strong teams are wary of teams full of history who have always been regular champions of the league. Maybe Arsenal is very scary for any team in the same group but after that they are nothing more than a team that can be knocked out easily.
This is funny but you said the fact, Arsenal are still lacking in experience to challenge stronger teams and most teams frequently play in the Champions League have more threat than Arsenal but in a few years they would also get to that level if they are able to maintain their performance and qualify for the champions league every year.

Since the era of Arsene Wenger to Mikel Arteta, it has taken countless times for them to reach that level and in the end they still couldn't do anything. Perhaps the highest achievement that Arsenal can be proud of was in 2006 when they made it to the final round of the Champions League but unfortunately at that time they had to face an overpowered Barcelona team which we know any team would lose if they faced it.

Maybe Arsenal's realistic target is to continue to qualify for the Champions League every season and at least they won't embarrass their fans. I think that's enough because even in the domestic league they have to face challenges that are almost as tough and even now they haven't been able to feel the title they lost a long time ago. So Arsenal has a lot of work to do.
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July 19, 2024, 12:50:48 AM
A team as Arsenal needs to choose their priority as soon as the season is starting so they can achieve one trophy this season as they have been going tropyless for some seasons. Other teams that has been having a bad season are getting crown champions in one tournament but arsenal is getting nothing and this is not looking good for the manager as it will put him under more pressure. Trophy help keep a manager career so he can impact the team and work with them to win bigger tournaments. Arsenal need to start winning trophies and if it needs them to focus on just few tournaments, they should do it.
To build a strong character as one of the contenders in the Champions League is not easy and Arsenal need to make a major overhaul if they want to achieve that. The presence of Arteta has indeed changed a lot of things for Arsenal but the changes have not been completely successful. Talking about the Champions League is not as easy as talking about other leagues because here it uses a different system after entering the group stage. Arsenal need to build a much better strength if they want to chase trophies but before going too far they must first win the Premier League title.

In the Champions League everything is different there are many other clubs whose strength is much better than Arsenal but also have difficulty winning the title. Arsenal who do not have the mentality and experience will be much more difficult and maybe this is what Arteta must fix so that they can be stronger when playing in the Champions League next season.

I think Arsenal doesn't have to make a major overhaul to become champions because they already have a pretty solid squad and a good coach. At most, they only need to sign a few players who are really needed and don't have to make changes on a large scale. Arsenal's real problem is that they still don't have the winning mentality that Man City and Real Madrid currently have, and I think if on several occasions they can reach the final, it will form that necessary mentality on its own.
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July 19, 2024, 12:33:05 AM
A team as Arsenal needs to choose their priority as soon as the season is starting so they can achieve one trophy this season as they have been going tropyless for some seasons. Other teams that has been having a bad season are getting crown champions in one tournament but arsenal is getting nothing and this is not looking good for the manager as it will put him under more pressure. Trophy help keep a manager career so he can impact the team and work with them to win bigger tournaments. Arsenal need to start winning trophies and if it needs them to focus on just few tournaments, they should do it.
To build a strong character as one of the contenders in the Champions League is not easy and Arsenal need to make a major overhaul if they want to achieve that. The presence of Arteta has indeed changed a lot of things for Arsenal but the changes have not been completely successful. Talking about the Champions League is not as easy as talking about other leagues because here it uses a different system after entering the group stage. Arsenal need to build a much better strength if they want to chase trophies but before going too far they must first win the Premier League title.

In the Champions League everything is different there are many other clubs whose strength is much better than Arsenal but also have difficulty winning the title. Arsenal who do not have the mentality and experience will be much more difficult and maybe this is what Arteta must fix so that they can be stronger when playing in the Champions League next season.
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July 18, 2024, 11:57:05 PM
I don't think it would be prudent for Arsenal to focus on only the premier league and not on the champions league. Arsenal is a big team and a big team fights for all the trophies available in the season. Focusing on one from the beginning of the season might be catastrophic because if they lose out on that one then they're left with nothing. Great importance should be placed on the major competitions which are the league and champions league. They can use the reserve team or second 11 to play competitions like the FA cup or caraboa cup if they're not facing a top opponents, but the champions league and League, should be their priority.

A team as Arsenal needs to choose their priority as soon as the season is starting so they can achieve one trophy this season as they have been going tropyless for some seasons. Other teams that has been having a bad season are getting crown champions in one tournament but arsenal is getting nothing and this is not looking good for the manager as it will put him under more pressure. Trophy help keep a manager career so he can impact the team and work with them to win bigger tournaments. Arsenal need to start winning trophies and if it needs them to focus on just few tournaments, they should do it.
What priority is this? I think, as a professional club, Arsenal must be working professionally. No league should get priority. Arsenal must prioritize all competitions. This is because winning trophies in all of professional scenes is very important. They must have strengthened their mentality. Working harder in all competitions raises your chance of winning.
And again, focusing only on one competition won't guarantee you to win it. Arsenal almost made it last season. But, City took the lead at the end. This surprised many people. And as you said above, having a bad season, but winning at least one trophy was better than being trophyless.

So, Arteta needs to fully concern himself with the mentality of Arsenal's players. Arsenal's performance is good so far. However, it lacks a trophy. This incomplete journey is a concern for Arteta, and his club must be focusing on all of tournaments.
I remind you: the team is not just playing for the trophy. They must also play for their finances. The trophy is not everything, but winning it helps you a lot. It boosts the reputation of your club. Then, you can sell your players for a high price.

All in all, Arsenal only need to improve how to win the trophy. This is it, a proper finishing, and that's very certain if it's the only aspect missed by Arteta's club.
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July 18, 2024, 10:33:48 PM
A team as Arsenal needs to choose their priority as soon as the season is starting so they can achieve one trophy this season as they have been going tropyless for some seasons. Other teams that has been having a bad season are getting crown champions in one tournament but arsenal is getting nothing and this is not looking good for the manager as it will put him under more pressure. Trophy help keep a manager career so he can impact the team and work with them to win bigger tournaments. Arsenal need to start winning trophies and if it needs them to focus on just few tournaments, they should do it.
Teams that are building up like Arsenal need a trophy, big one like Premier League to officially jump to a successful era. Like Chelsea and Manchester City, a big title helped these clubs to change their club history and become more confident about their competitiveness and strength. It leads to more success in Premier League and Champions League.

Arsenal are strong now after going through some prepared seasons for building up with Unai Emery then Mikel Arteta. They need to win Premier League or Champions League to become stronger themselves and to be more attractive with star players. It helps them to strengthen their squad more in future if they manage to win a first big title after many years.
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July 18, 2024, 07:38:44 PM
I don't think it would be prudent for Arsenal to focus on only the premier league and not on the champions league. Arsenal is a big team and a big team fights for all the trophies available in the season. Focusing on one from the beginning of the season might be catastrophic because if they lose out on that one then they're left with nothing. Great importance should be placed on the major competitions which are the league and champions league. They can use the reserve team or second 11 to play competitions like the FA cup or caraboa cup if they're not facing a top opponents, but the champions league and League, should be their priority.

A team as Arsenal needs to choose their priority as soon as the season is starting so they can achieve one trophy this season as they have been going tropyless for some seasons. Other teams that has been having a bad season are getting crown champions in one tournament but arsenal is getting nothing and this is not looking good for the manager as it will put him under more pressure. Trophy help keep a manager career so he can impact the team and work with them to win bigger tournaments. Arsenal need to start winning trophies and if it needs them to focus on just few tournaments, they should do it.
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July 18, 2024, 07:24:07 PM
I don't think it would be prudent for Arsenal to focus on only the premier league and not on the champions league. Arsenal is a big team and a big team fights for all the trophies available in the season. Focusing on one from the beginning of the season might be catastrophic because if they lose out on that one then they're left with nothing. Great importance should be placed on the major competitions which are the league and champions league. They can use the reserve team or second 11 to play competitions like the FA cup or caraboa cup if they're not facing a top opponents, but the champions league and League, should be their priority.

Finally, you'll find it hard to believe that Arsenal values the Carabao Cup Competition and also the FA Cup Competition more. I won't say they value it more than the Champions League Competition but they love these domestic cup Competitions. They've been poor when it comes to playing and fighting for the European Competitions or trophies. I'd say they should exert so much focus into winning the Premier League Competition next season.
It's cool for everyone to fight for the Champions League Competition, bit Mikel Arteta should also know that, winning trophies will obviously buy him time with thr club.
They're yet to sign a goalscoring striker. It's few weeks until the new season, I'm still anticipating who they've got in mind to bring into the club and squad.
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July 18, 2024, 06:20:41 PM
Arsenal in recent years has proven to continue to make significant changes. In the last two seasons, they have become a team that competes closely in the domestic league and UCL league. Arsenal under Arteta's game already has character, this is what makes them play well in every match, but they lack consistency in matches where they should be able to win points.
Arteta has rebuilt the Arsenal squad to a squad that is hard to defeat, the team has consistently became one of the best team in the Premier League in two seasons now, they are about to win the Premier League because of their performances in the last two seasons, they also showed quality in the last season’s Champions League but lack of experience from the young players affected their performances and they were eliminated by Bayern Munchen as usual.

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So with Arsenal's current development, I think their target next season is to get a trophy, even though their target is the EPL trophy, it does not rule out the possibility that the UCL trophy will also be a priority. The reason is that Arsenal actually already has the foundation to compete with elite clubs, it's just that they don't have good reserve players like the main players. This is Arsenal's weakness in the last two seasons, they don't have good reserve players, which makes it difficult for Arteta to make changes to the line-up which makes his players tired.
It’s time for Arsenal to lift titles, they have tried enough to make a good team, and they were able to come up with a team that is good, so their main target will be a trophy especially the UEFA Champions League they never lifted before and the EPL.
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July 18, 2024, 06:10:55 PM
Arsenal is up to contesting for the Premier League but not for the Champions League, even if we still can't tell what the coming season has installed but it will take Arsenal a lot more than what they already plan on doing. It comes with a lot of motivation, for them losing enough opportunities to secure their PL title and has remained incompetent now heading for the Champions League, it doesn't fit in, everything here would require gradual steps and the next for them is to win the EPL and then set their target higher for the Champions League.

Waiting to set their targets for the premier league first and leaving out that of the champions league is not something that makes a lot of sense to be in all honesty. What if their luck is in the champions league and not in the premier league they want to set their focus on to. As a team that wants to win trophies, you need to be at your best always and try your best to always get the best out of every competition you find yourself participating in. Just participating in one competition does not guarantee that you’ll win the trophy in the end because your focus was just on that competition only. It takes your zeal, strength and determination as a club to be able to do that.

If one team can win three trophies in one season and other teams that are participating in just one competition cannot win that trophy that means it requires every team to be more dedicated and give in their all in order to be victorious in all competitions they’re participating in. Arsenal should face their fears in the face and battle this through. The Arsenal lost glory will soon be back and they need to be very strong and exceptional in all competitions in order to prevail against all odds against them in those competitions. If a team with the same number of players as their opponents have can do it, then all team can have a chance to also be like them if they try.
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July 18, 2024, 05:35:05 PM
Arsenal is up to contesting for the Premier League but not for the Champions League, even if we still can't tell what the coming season has installed but it will take Arsenal a lot more than what they already plan on doing. It comes with a lot of motivation, for them losing enough opportunities to secure their PL title and has remained incompetent now heading for the Champions League, it doesn't fit in, everything here would require gradual steps and the next for them is to win the EPL and then set their target higher for the Champions League.
You can't be so sure already that Arsenal isn't up for the competition in the champions league, you never can tell what their plans are for the season and yet you may be making conclusions on basis that can't be considered solid, no team loves to lose neither will them plan to do same not from the very beginning of the season. We all know that in the past season, there have been several attempts by Arsenal to win the premier league making it look like priority for them and ofcourse their champions league attempts have been unmatching with their premier league attempts but then it's still possible to make good and almost equal attempts at both trophies which we may see in this new season so let's not be quick to rule anything out just yet until we are sure probably after seeing them go quarter to half way the season.
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July 18, 2024, 05:34:13 PM
Currently, Manchester City and Real Madrid are the two teams that are the favorites for people to win the UEFA Champions League next season if you are talking about teams that are qualified in terms of performances and squad in the team. Arsenal should focus on taking the Premier League from Manchester City because it is what fighting for. It will be a shame that at the end of all season, they still can't win the Premier League every time they get close. The only reason Manchester City will not put much interest in the EPL next season compared to how they will be looking at the UCL title is that they need more of the UCL cup and feel they can easily win the EPL.

I don't think it would be prudent for Arsenal to focus on only the premier league and not on the champions league. Arsenal is a big team and a big team fights for all the trophies available in the season. Focusing on one from the beginning of the season might be catastrophic because if they lose out on that one then they're left with nothing. Great importance should be placed on the major competitions which are the league and champions league. They can use the reserve team or second 11 to play competitions like the FA cup or caraboa cup if they're not facing a top opponents, but the champions league and League, should be their priority.
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July 18, 2024, 05:09:17 PM
Arsenal is up to contesting for the Premier League but not for the Champions League, even if we still can't tell what the coming season has installed but it will take Arsenal a lot more than what they already plan on doing. It comes with a lot of motivation, for them losing enough opportunities to secure their PL title and has remained incompetent now heading for the Champions League, it doesn't fit in, everything here would require gradual steps and the next for them is to win the EPL and then set their target higher for the Champions League.
Arsenal in recent years has proven to continue to make significant changes. In the last two seasons, they have become a team that competes closely in the domestic league and UCL league. Arsenal under Arteta's game already has character, this is what makes them play well in every match, but they lack consistency in matches where they should be able to win points.

So with Arsenal's current development, I think their target next season is to get a trophy, even though their target is the EPL trophy, it does not rule out the possibility that the UCL trophy will also be a priority. The reason is that Arsenal actually already has the foundation to compete with elite clubs, it's just that they don't have good reserve players like the main players. This is Arsenal's weakness in the last two seasons, they don't have good reserve players, which makes it difficult for Arteta to make changes to the line-up which makes his players tired.
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July 18, 2024, 05:05:52 PM

It depends on how Arsenal can improve next season, if they can improve significantly enough then they will be able to go even further in the Champions League. However, on the other hand, if they cannot improve their performance next season, then they will not be able to do much and perhaps qualifying from the group stage will be their achievement, after which they will be eliminated again by the fierce competition in the Champions League.
The team that will join their group is also something that will determine, if they join a relatively easy group, then maybe they will be able to easily qualify for the knockout rounds, but if they join the hell group it will be a challenge for them. But the draw is luck, they definitely hope they can be in a relatively easy group.

With Arsenal's performances last season, Arsenal is really predictable. That they will do well next season because there are no changes in either ahead or their quality players. Arsenal did not sell any of their quality players; rather, they are planning to add to the team to strengthen their performances for next season's competition. I can actually say that this will be Arsenal's performance in the Champions League, but there is confidence that Arsenal will do well with this type of squad they have now.

It will not be that nice for me to be predicting Arsenal's performances in the Champions League now because I don't know which competition Arteta will fully concentrate on next season. It was noticed over two seasons now that Arteta has not been focused on European competition too much because it doesn't have many quality players to be playing in all these competitions. But now I observe that he is trying his best to have quality replacements for its players, and that is what made him even go far last season. As next season is about to strt again, he is trying to sign more quality players so that it will not be a problem when injuries happen to some of its players.
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July 18, 2024, 04:57:58 PM
No matter about Arsenal who managed to improve the quality of the team because anyway, Arsenal will only focus on the Premier League and not for the Champion League.
For the past two seasons, we can see how desperate Arsenal is to win the Premier League, not that they don’t also want to win the Champions League, but they will prefer the Premier League, and since Arsenal have really tried hard to win the Premier League in the last two seasons but ended up in second place, next season is another season for them to try harder. But next season champions league winner should be between Manchester City or Real Madrid. I don’t always expect much from Arsenal in the champions league, because their performance is always kind of poor in champions league.

Currently, Manchester City and Real Madrid are the two teams that are the favorites for people to win the UEFA Champions League next season if you are talking about teams that are qualified in terms of performances and squad in the team. Arsenal should focus on taking the Premier League from Manchester City because it is what fighting for. It will be a shame that at the end of all season, they still can't win the Premier League every time they get close. The only reason Manchester City will not put much interest in the EPL next season compared to how they will be looking at the UCL title is that they need more of the UCL cup and feel they can easily win the EPL.

The league is about that start once more again, and I think arsenal might have really learnt their lesson this time around because if they are to lose the league again to Manchester city then it would be really sad for them but for their chances of winning the champions league, I think the numbers are really far and I don't see them having that sort of team to actually do that so the premier league should be their primary focus for now.
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July 18, 2024, 04:48:17 PM
No matter about Arsenal who managed to improve the quality of the team because anyway, Arsenal will only focus on the Premier League and not for the Champion League.
For the past two seasons, we can see how desperate Arsenal is to win the Premier League, not that they don’t also want to win the Champions League, but they will prefer the Premier League, and since Arsenal have really tried hard to win the Premier League in the last two seasons but ended up in second place, next season is another season for them to try harder. But next season champions league winner should be between Manchester City or Real Madrid. I don’t always expect much from Arsenal in the champions league, because their performance is always kind of poor in champions league.

Currently, Manchester City and Real Madrid are the two teams that are the favorites for people to win the UEFA Champions League next season if you are talking about teams that are qualified in terms of performances and squad in the team. Arsenal should focus on taking the Premier League from Manchester City because it is what fighting for. It will be a shame that at the end of all season, they still can't win the Premier League every time they get close. The only reason Manchester City will not put much interest in the EPL next season compared to how they will be looking at the UCL title is that they need more of the UCL cup and feel they can easily win the EPL.
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July 18, 2024, 04:48:04 PM
It depends on how Arsenal can improve next season, if they can improve significantly enough then they will be able to go even further in the Champions League. However, on the other hand, if they cannot improve their performance next season, then they will not be able to do much and perhaps qualifying from the group stage will be their achievement, after which they will be eliminated again by the fierce competition in the Champions League.
The team that will join their group is also something that will determine, if they join a relatively easy group, then maybe they will be able to easily qualify for the knockout rounds, but if they join the hell group it will be a challenge for them. But the draw is luck, they definitely hope they can be in a relatively easy group.

Arsenal's performance is unpredictable because they always start the season perfectly, but at the end, they always mess everything up in the Champions League. I can’t confidently say how their performance will be, but I can see that many teams are preparing for the next season, so they can perform very well. I believe Arsenal are also doing the same thing so that they will be a wonder next season.

 Although I know that only a few teams will be a challenge for them since they are not, that should be underrated too, but still, Arsenal always end up the season with nothing, which is always a bad result for them. But maybe next season will be a better season for Arsenal, like other seasons have achieved many things before. 

Arsenal's performance has fluctuated over the years, but they have yet to win the league or Champions League. Arteta must improve the team's performance in the upcoming season to help them win the Premier League. In the previous two seasons, Arsenal performed well and thought they would win the league, but Manchester City defeated them and won the Cup, and again last season. everyone thinking they will do well and win the trophy and they still perform poor and Manchester City get opportunities and win them again, So he will have a difficult time winning the Champions League since they cannot compete with the Premier League and must first win the league title before having a chance to win the UCL. They still have a long way to go, and based on their current performance, I don't believe they are ready to win the UCL and Premier League. Let's see how Arteta performs next season if Arsenal improves and has a chance to win the league competition.
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July 18, 2024, 04:46:57 PM
If all predictions were accurate then there will not be any need to watch the games, and that is what makes sports interesting, however casinos are experts at calculating those odds as that is the most important part of their business, so chances are that one of the teams at the top will get the championship, however at this time the overwhelming favorite seems to be Real Madrid, and if its players can remain healthy, it is going to be a real challenge for other teams to beat them.

Real Madrid continue to remain the most dominant team in the champions league and are more preferred to win the champions league next season against unless proven otherwise by a worthy team. The game is very difficult to predict but with the current squad of Real Madrid, you’ll have little to no doubt that they’ll be the next champions of the champions league again. I have already seen a lot of worthy teams that can stand them but not until the game begins fully for next season, I don’t think we can be sure of a team that can beat them and win the trophy.

No matter about Arsenal who managed to improve the quality of the team because anyway, Arsenal will only focus on the Premier League and not for the Champion League.
For the past two seasons, we can see how desperate Arsenal is to win the Premier League, not that they don’t also want to win the Champions League, but they will prefer the Premier League, and since Arsenal have really tried hard to win the Premier League in the last two seasons but ended up in second place, next season is another season for them to try harder. But next season champions league winner should be between Manchester City or Real Madrid. I don’t always expect much from Arsenal in the champions league, because their performance is always kind of poor in champions league.

The last outing in the champions league that Arsenal had was a very horrible one before the recent one and it took them up to a decade before they could participate in the competition again. With what they played in the last season in the champions league, I gave some sense of hope in them that they’ll do better this season even if they are not the most favourite to win the Champions League. They can go a step further and at least show what they’re capable of as a changed team since they had the new manager Mikel Arteta.
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I think arsenal have a problem not only in the squad but also in the mentality of the team, I have repeatedly noticed how in the most important moments they make mistakes that end up being solvable. Last season, compared to the previous one, things were much better, but still not perfect. But it's fair to say that Manchester City made a lot of mistakes last season, too. Besides, for the Champions League, the psychological stability of the team is very important
Is it about mentality or form of strength which is still considered weak when faced with stronger teams. Of course, the question of mentality is something that is often said, especially in the Champions League. Of course, in the Champions League, every team must be able to exert extra strength when they face a team they have never faced. If you look at the changes made by Arteta, of course he has made great progress in improvement after improvement, but if Arteta continues to fail in bringing trophies, of course in the final assessment he will fail to make changes.
Arsenal target may not be the UCL trophy but they are more focused on the EPL trophy as they did in the previous season. I think they need to lift the EPL trophy first before focusing their strength on the Champions League.

I'm not arguing with the fact that Arteta has brought big changes to the team, and they have led to better things, as arsenal appear to be getting more consistent and stronger each season. They fought honourably in the Champions League this year, losing only by one game to Bayern, who are considered very serious opponents. Hopefully next season they will be even stronger
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July 18, 2024, 04:41:55 PM
If all predictions were accurate then there will not be any need to watch the games, and that is what makes sports interesting, however casinos are experts at calculating those odds as that is the most important part of their business, so chances are that one of the teams at the top will get the championship, however at this time the overwhelming favorite seems to be Real Madrid, and if its players can remain healthy, it is going to be a real challenge for other teams to beat them.

Some people actually take predictions of games to seem like a 100 percent thing forgetting that it's all speculation. No sports can be 100 percent correct or forecasted. It will always be based on predictions and most of the time, the degree of accuracy of most predictable games are due to the strength of the teams involved in the challenge. When you have bigger teams challenging small ones, you have situation where predictions are tilted towards favoring the bigger teams than the small ones.
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July 18, 2024, 04:34:44 PM
No matter about Arsenal who managed to improve the quality of the team because anyway, Arsenal will only focus on the Premier League and not for the Champion League.
For the past two seasons, we can see how desperate Arsenal is to win the Premier League, not that they don’t also want to win the Champions League, but they will prefer the Premier League, and since Arsenal have really tried hard to win the Premier League in the last two seasons but ended up in second place, next season is another season for them to try harder. But next season champions league winner should be between Manchester City or Real Madrid. I don’t always expect much from Arsenal in the champions league, because their performance is always kind of poor in champions league.
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