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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on September 27, 2024, 11:23:26 AM

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I do agree that it is going to be very hard for many teams because this is way too many games and we are going to end up with a lot of injuries and even if not injured tired and barely running players if we keep this up. This is why I think it's clear that we are going to end up with some trouble.

I think it's clear that we are going to see this result in a lot of teams going against this idea, I am not really expecting that much of a change and I think it needs to be something that is taking a while for this to be a bigger deal. Everyone started to talk about it already, bigger teams are already discussing it, and I think we need to find a way to cut some games shorter, but financially they do need to play a lot to earn a lot.

The new format is certainly not always beneficial, but also detrimental. But I think every team will make some adjustments so that each player does not experience fatigue that ends in injury. Involving more young players in easy matches is certainly an approach that many top coaches usually take, so I don't think too much about the negative impact compared to the goals of the new format that they want to achieve.

This is the first season for the new format and I don't think there are many teams complaining. This change will certainly be understood over time and each team will definitely get a good plan for each season of the competition. We never know what other changes are being prepared for the competition in the coming years, but every decision is certainly preceded by deliberation.

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Quote from: Ndabagi01 on September 27, 2024, 01:44:15 PM

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on September 26, 2024, 04:50:48 PM

AC Milan have an opportunity to get their first win of their Champions League campaign this season when they face Bayern Leverkusen next, hopefully they can get redemption for their lose to Liverpool in their first fixture to move up the table or else face difficult getting points to secure their promotion to the next stage of the tournament.

it hurts to see that Milan have such a high quota for victory, it will be a very difficult match for Milan.
Of course, Bayern is strong as a team but in the past they weren't too strong to have these odds against Milan.
Then of course anything can happen in a Champions League match, I support Milan.

I’m surprised to see such a high odd for AC Milan. Those two teams are of the same range to me in terms of performance and I think those odds are too much given to AC Milan. Bayern Leverkusen might not have played in the champions league last season but their performance that gave them the opportunity to play in the Champions league this season is enough to give them a good odd for this match. Also, this season, their performance hasn’t been that bad to get such odd for this game. Since this is the champions league, I also hope to see a competitive match here. Anything can happen so we’ll be expecting to see something surprising out of this match.

Consistency is what matters in a club performance and Milan have being inconsistent since the beginning of the season and their performance is unpredictable in their upcoming matches. Milan was able to win Inter doesn't mean that they have what it takes to win Leverkusen.

Xabi have built Leverkusen team with a solid foundation and the players have wonderful performance in all their matches apart from the one that they lost in their domestic league. Also this is an European competition where surprises are expected which makes me feel that Leverkusen will try their best to win Milan.

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Quote from: naira on September 27, 2024, 10:25:54 AM

AC Milan performance is very inconsistent and it will be difficult for us to gauge whether they are able to win the next match against Leverkusen. Like their first defeat against Liverpool, then in Serie A they performed impressively by defeating Inter who previously Inter were able to withstand dangerous aggression from Manchester City. Now AC Milan are faced with a challenge that is not easy, Leverkusen do not have experience in the Champions League with the current squad but seeing the success in the first match indicates that Leverkusen do not need to adapt in the Champions League.

In the end, that makes me not take too much risk betting on the Leverkusen vs AC Milan match.

The inconsistency is definitely something that is making people question their quality and capabilities. They are the same team who won against Inter, but also lost points against worse teams, so it's clear that there isn't really anything that is making this easy for them, it is not going to be that simple at all.

We should consider this as a little bit harder to handle and I think the best way to do this would be just making sure that we are dealing with a better outlook in life. I think it's great that we spend time on all of these, because Milan being inconsistent means that betting on them is also hard, and checking how they could be doing, specially on live bets, means that you can see how they do in the first 15 minutes, and decide and bet later during the game.

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Quote from: giammangiato on September 27, 2024, 12:33:07 PM

Quote from: Pokapoka124 on September 26, 2024, 04:50:48 PM

AC Milan have an opportunity to get their first win of their Champions League campaign this season when they face Bayern Leverkusen next, hopefully they can get redemption for their lose to Liverpool in their first fixture to move up the table or else face difficult getting points to secure their promotion to the next stage of the tournament.

it hurts to see that Milan have such a high quota for victory, it will be a very difficult match for Milan.
Of course, Bayern is strong as a team but in the past they weren't too strong to have these odds against Milan.
Then of course anything can happen in a Champions League match, I support Milan.

I’m surprised to see such a high odd for AC Milan. Those two teams are of the same range to me in terms of performance and I think those odds are too much given to AC Milan. Bayern Leverkusen might not have played in the champions league last season but their performance that gave them the opportunity to play in the Champions league this season is enough to give them a good odd for this match. Also, this season, their performance hasn’t been that bad to get such odd for this game. Since this is the champions league, I also hope to see a competitive match here. Anything can happen so we’ll be expecting to see something surprising out of this match.

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Quote from: beerlover on September 27, 2024, 01:20:20 PM

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I do agree that it is going to be very hard for many teams because this is way too many games and we are going to end up with a lot of injuries and even if not injured tired and barely running players if we keep this up. This is why I think it's clear that we are going to end up with some trouble.

I think it's clear that we are going to see this result in a lot of teams going against this idea, I am not really expecting that much of a change and I think it needs to be something that is taking a while for this to be a bigger deal. Everyone started to talk about it already, bigger teams are already discussing it, and I think we need to find a way to cut some games shorter, but financially they do need to play a lot to earn a lot.

But simultaneously all the players want to make at least €20 million a year. Now they are at a point where allegedly they want to boycott the game at some point, but I don't that is going to be the case. Maybe some high profile players go first, but if you are about to negotiate a contract and then raised your voice a while before, there is no way to to reach your salary goals as a player. Then they should say they are willing to cut their salaries in half and only play half the games anymore.

The whole industry is driven greed and that does especially apply to the players and players' agents. They all want more money and less game, but that's not how it works.

Teams like PSG and Manchester City are inflating salaries, Real Madrid same thing, and then all the players raise their requirements. It's a no-brainer. Then the associations take everyone hostage, but they can do that only because the players want more. That is how they justify it.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on September 27, 2024, 11:23:26 AM

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The new format is aimed at allowing viewers to see more different matches with their teams, that is, the task was to make the Champions League more interesting for the viewer. The fact that City cannot win some matches is primarily the fault of their opponents, when they decide to go into deep defense, maybe this is one of the few opportunities to get points in a match against City, so it is not worth blaming them for this. It is difficult to assess the advantages and disadvantages of this format for now, we can talk about this at the end of the season.

Actually it’s not that difficult and we don’t have to wait till the end of the season to know that players cannot be able to perform at their best given the number of games they have to play. Only big teams with squad depth can afford to rotate their players in the different competitions. The previous format was great in my opinion. You say the new format is aimed at allowing viewers to see more matches, honestly who wants to watch the champions league games 3 days a week.

I do agree that it is going to be very hard for many teams because this is way too many games and we are going to end up with a lot of injuries and even if not injured tired and barely running players if we keep this up. This is why I think it's clear that we are going to end up with some trouble.

I think it's clear that we are going to see this result in a lot of teams going against this idea, I am not really expecting that much of a change and I think it needs to be something that is taking a while for this to be a bigger deal. Everyone started to talk about it already, bigger teams are already discussing it, and I think we need to find a way to cut some games shorter, but financially they do need to play a lot to earn a lot.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on September 26, 2024, 04:50:48 PM

AC Milan have an opportunity to get their first win of their Champions League campaign this season when they face Bayern Leverkusen next, hopefully they can get redemption for their lose to Liverpool in their first fixture to move up the table or else face difficult getting points to secure their promotion to the next stage of the tournament.

Looking at the odds given by the bookies, I think Milan will not easily defeat Leverkusen, especially since this match is held at BayArena, Bayer Leverkusen's home base. IMO, usually Xabi Alonso's team will be even more challenged when they face a big team. Moreover, Milan's performance is not at its best, Leverkusen's chances of winning their second match in the Champions League are quite large. Based on personal choice, without involving analysis, I think Xabi Alonso's team will win the match against AC Milan. Considering that Fonseca's team has not shown good performance, then the choice is Leverkusen. Even so, as you said that AC Milan has the opportunity to achieve its first victory in the Champions League, it can be said that Leverkusen is not as mentally strong as AC Milan. Milan also won over Inter, this capital can revive them to return to the real track. It seems, this match is exciting to look forward to.

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Currently each team has only played 1 match. I think we can't measure the performance of each team because there are still 7 matches. But if we look at the next opponent I agree with you. Atalanta has a chance to qualify for the round of 16 by being in the top 8 in the standings. But there are many other strong teams who will compete for the top 8 positions to qualify for the round of 16 and this is a challenge for Atalanta. So far only Real Madrid and Barcelona are their toughest opponents. But if we talk about Atalanta's chances of qualifying for the next round through the play-offs I am sure they can get it.

Measuring the strength of a team from the results of a game sometimes can be really feel wrong but in the end we find out that some teams do not do any better except for a few who gets better in the long run before the end of the tournament. before we become to sure of Atlanta been able to qualify for the next round, lets not forget that they have tough opponents ahead and the very competitive nature of the champions league, the number of top teams competing to qualify for the top eight so as to get to the round of sixteen are much and are even tougher teams than Atlanta so i think its going to be a really tough one for them sine they are not as experienced as other teams contending.

What becomes more difficult to predict is when the opponents are from different leagues, so it will be a little difficult to measure their strengths. It is different when two teams that meet are from the same league, usually it will be easier to predict because they have met very often.
Maybe we can see from the statistics and their last few matches, but that cannot be a guarantee that the same thing will happen. This is why the Champions League is more difficult, because those who are here are also the best teams in the previous season in the domestic league and some of them are indeed regulars in the Champions League.
Now we are only in the first match, anything can happen, it depends on how they perform in each match.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on September 26, 2024, 04:50:48 PM

AC Milan have an opportunity to get their first win of their Champions League campaign this season when they face Bayern Leverkusen next, hopefully they can get redemption for their lose to Liverpool in their first fixture to move up the table or else face difficult getting points to secure their promotion to the next stage of the tournament.

it hurts to see that Milan have such a high quota for victory, it will be a very difficult match for Milan.
Of course, Bayern is strong as a team but in the past they weren't too strong to have these odds against Milan.
Then of course anything can happen in a Champions League match, I support Milan.

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Quote from: Pandorak on September 27, 2024, 09:24:51 AM

Quote from: Pokapoka124 on September 26, 2024, 04:50:48 PM

AC Milan have an opportunity to get their first win of their Champions League campaign this season when they face Bayern Leverkusen next, hopefully they can get redemption for their lose to Liverpool in their first fixture to move up the table or else face difficult getting points to secure their promotion to the next stage of the tournament. [...]

Every team definitely has a chance to win, but from the odds picture you provided, it seems like we all have doubts that AC Milan can get their first Champions League win. Bayer Leverkusen is a strong team & they will also be playing a home game, so it will be difficult for AC Milan to get what they want this time.

This two can show some great performance in this game because they’re both not a team that are mediocre in their respective leagues and are both doing well in their league games. When we decide to compare them on a larger scale, I will say Bayern Leverkusen stands the bigger chance in this game because they are the defending champions of their league and have started this season on a good note too. AC Milan only got to qualify for the champions league as they finished in top four of their league which is also considerable. Any result from this match should not be seen as a shock because both teams are doing pretty well and can give their best to win the match.

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Quote from: Hanadawa on September 27, 2024, 09:32:38 AM

Currently each team has only played 1 match. I think we can't measure the performance of each team because there are still 7 matches. But if we look at the next opponent I agree with you. Atalanta has a chance to qualify for the round of 16 by being in the top 8 in the standings. But there are many other strong teams who will compete for the top 8 positions to qualify for the round of 16 and this is a challenge for Atalanta. So far only Real Madrid and Barcelona are their toughest opponents. But if we talk about Atalanta's chances of qualifying for the next round through the play-offs I am sure they can get it.

Measuring the strength of a team from the results of a game sometimes can be really feel wrong but in the end we find out that some teams do not do any better except for a few who gets better in the long run before the end of the tournament. before we become to sure of Atlanta been able to qualify for the next round, lets not forget that they have tough opponents ahead and the very competitive nature of the champions league, the number of top teams competing to qualify for the top eight so as to get to the round of sixteen are much and are even tougher teams than Atlanta so i think its going to be a really tough one for them sine they are not as experienced as other teams contending.

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Quote from: Pandorak on September 27, 2024, 09:24:51 AM

Quote from: Pokapoka124 on September 26, 2024, 04:50:48 PM

AC Milan have an opportunity to get their first win of their Champions League campaign this season when they face Bayern Leverkusen next, hopefully they can get redemption for their lose to Liverpool in their first fixture to move up the table or else face difficult getting points to secure their promotion to the next stage of the tournament. [...]

Every team definitely has a chance to win, but from the odds picture you provided, it seems like we all have doubts that AC Milan can get their first Champions League win. Bayer Leverkusen is a strong team & they will also be playing a home game, so it will be difficult for AC Milan to get what they want this time.

Exactly, every team have the chance to win matches, and in this scenario, I don't see any reason why AC Milan will be given a high chance against Bayer Leverkusen.

I understand that AC Milan is a big team and have good Champions League record, but when we look at their performance this season, we will see that they struggling to win matches even in their domestic League (Seria A). Although they were able to defeat Inter Milan in their last Seria A match which show some sign that they are coming back strongly after their poor start of the season; but this should not make them judge or rank them ahead of Leverkusen even though they can defeat them, but playing Leverkusen away from home will be a difficult match for Milan to win.

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Quote from: fadhilz123 on September 27, 2024, 04:46:11 AM

There are still many opportunities for Atalanta to advance to the last 16 because there are still seven more matches to gain points before going to the next round and of the seven matches that Atalanta will face, the toughest are probably only when they face Real Madrid and Barcelona. In addition, there are no opponents who can make it difficult for Atalanta to get full points in this round because apart from Barcelona and Real Madrid, I think the other five teams that Atalanta will face are fairly easy teams for them.

Atlanta might have the opportunity to move to round sixteen but are they ready to make that decision and back it up with a commitment to their games if not any other anything will not go according to what they have planned, and without does point you will not make it to the round sixteen and the point is what qualifies you to make it to that point. and am sure those seven matches will not be an easy one but we need to decide now because this is the Champions League and there is no escape if you are not good you have to defend yourself to the front before you can be able to get to that round. and when they face Real Madrid they need to be more prepared because Real Madrid can never be underestimated when it comes to the Champions League they can even neglect their league for the Champions League.

Looks like you have so much confidence in them and that is why you think the only people who can defeat them will not be more than real Madrid and Barcelona other clubs are worse than real Madrid and Atlanta defeating these two clubs means that they have the chance of winning which will be impossible. and the Champions League is not looking that serious for now and that is why because when it gets serious the heat will be everywhere.

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Quote from: Zanab247 on September 27, 2024, 07:39:28 AM

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AC Milan have an opportunity to get their first win of their Champions League campaign this season when they face Bayern Leverkusen next, hopefully they can get redemption for their lose to Liverpool in their first fixture to move up the table or else face difficult getting points to secure their promotion to the next stage of the tournament.

For now it is too risky to believe in betting on Milan victory because the inconsistent performance is slightly weakening making our bet lose. As we can see at that time you can see Milan unimpressive performance when playing against Liverpool and on the one hand Leverkusen currently has a very strong defense and always has a defensive strategy when they can't beat their opponents.
So it would be better for me to bet on other options such as BTTS or over 3.

Possibly before the match starts I dare to take the risk on Leverkusen victory -1.

Because they draw with their opponent that make you to advise others people not to bet for the favor of AC Milan, if you know the kind strong team Leverkusen are in this tournament, you will praise AC Milan for not allow them to win the game than to draw with them. If you can still flash back last season, you will know that AC Milan didn't started performing well from the beginning of last season until when the season was about to come to an end before they started displayed well to encourage their fans, but they where not able to end the season because Real Madrid was in favourable position to wiin the trophy.

You will see what AC Milan will do in their next season, because their coach will make sure he try other players to start the game so that it can turn for their favor to secure 3 points from the game to use it to encourage their fans that they will go far in this season.

I can't predict the game versus Bayern Leverkusen vs Ac Milla because Milla is doing well in the league. However, when they play against Inter Milan, I'm astonished because I expected Inter Milan to win or tie. Both teams are doing well, Leverkusen and Ac Milla, but Leverkusen are the favorites to win the match. However, Ac Milla is a good club that plays in the Champions League every season and, I am sure they have won the UCL before, so anything may happen in the game. Leverkusen won their last match, and Ac Milla lost to Liverpool, but if you look at the quality of Feyenoord and Liverpool, you will notice that Liverpool are better than them and stronger, so Ac Milla's match is tough, and Leverkusen gets a weak club because Leverkusen has more quality players than them, so Leverkusen will face a tough game in the ucl because Ac Milla are not a small club that Leverkusen can defeat once they need to perform well in the pitch.

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For the new week, I have already prepared a betslip and I'm thinking of wagering some money on it. How does it look?

The most doubtful ones for me look like the first and last ones. Arsenal didn't meet the expectations on the first week. It was a 0-0 result against Atalanta. This is even a bigger match than that considering the opponent. My worry is not to see any goal in the first half. I hope it doesn't fail. Roll Eyes

When it comes to Dortmund, I believe in them to win. Celtic started really amazing. I have nothing against that. But their opponent was weak. Dortmund still look strong in the CL. Wink

If we see Leverkusen and Stuttgart losing points it would be a big surprise for me.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on September 26, 2024, 04:50:48 PM

AC Milan have an opportunity to get their first win of their Champions League campaign this season when they face Bayern Leverkusen next, hopefully they can get redemption for their lose to Liverpool in their first fixture to move up the table or else face difficult getting points to secure their promotion to the next stage of the tournament.

AC Milan might still find it difficult to win Bayern Leverkusen because when they played against Liverpool last week at their home they couldn't defend even when they were the first to score Liverpool and now they are playing at away to Bayern leverkusen that won Feyenoord 4:0 so i don't think Bayern leverkusen will just loose guard and allow AC Milan to win them at home. Though AC Milan has a considerate form in the Serie A since they have won 2 matches and draw 2 losing just one but the champions league games looks so complex for them and i don't even see them making a head way soon because teams they are meeting are very strong opponents. The only time they can win is when they meet teams they are far stronger than and not Bayern leverkusen.

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Quote from: Pandorak on September 27, 2024, 09:24:51 AM

Quote from: Pokapoka124 on September 26, 2024, 04:50:48 PM

AC Milan have an opportunity to get their first win of their Champions League campaign this season when they face Bayern Leverkusen next, hopefully they can get redemption for their lose to Liverpool in their first fixture to move up the table or else face difficult getting points to secure their promotion to the next stage of the tournament. [...]

Every team definitely has a chance to win, but from the odds picture you provided, it seems like we all have doubts that AC Milan can get their first Champions League win. Bayer Leverkusen is a strong team & they will also be playing a home game, so it will be difficult for AC Milan to get what they want this time.

Bayer Leverkusen is very strong, and AC Milan is just getting up, there is no chance of winning against Bayer Leverkusen at this time, and Ac Milan's first victory in the champions league will be delayed, or not against Bayer Leverkusen, especially since this match is held at the BayArena stadium, Leverkusen supporters will fill the stadium.

After all, for the time being on paper Xabi Alonso is more promising to give victory to Bayer Leverkusen, don't forget that Ac Milan is very inconsistent at the moment, especially since they just have a new coach who needs to adapt to AC Milan.

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Quote from: Cryptmuster on September 27, 2024, 02:58:06 AM

The new format is aimed at allowing viewers to see more different matches with their teams, that is, the task was to make the Champions League more interesting for the viewer. The fact that City cannot win some matches is primarily the fault of their opponents, when they decide to go into deep defense, maybe this is one of the few opportunities to get points in a match against City, so it is not worth blaming them for this. It is difficult to assess the advantages and disadvantages of this format for now, we can talk about this at the end of the season.

Actually it’s not that difficult and we don’t have to wait till the end of the season to know that players cannot be able to perform at their best given the number of games they have to play. Only big teams with squad depth can afford to rotate their players in the different competitions. The previous format was great in my opinion. You say the new format is aimed at allowing viewers to see more matches, honestly who wants to watch the champions league games 3 days a week.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on September 26, 2024, 04:50:48 PM

AC Milan have an opportunity to get their first win of their Champions League campaign this season when they face Bayern Leverkusen next, hopefully they can get redemption for their lose to Liverpool in their first fixture to move up the table or else face difficult getting points to secure their promotion to the next stage of the tournament.

Rather than opportunity you might word it like chance or necessity!
In my opinion, Bayer is one of the worst types of adversaries Milan has to face, where on paper everything is good because Bayer neglects defenses sometimes and Milan's game was about more about exploiting breaches such as they did in the last two games but then again it's usually when they are aggressively press Milan starts to crumble.
And the form is misleading, yeah they beat Inter but what was before that? A flood of disappointments even with wins except for the beating of Venezia.

No way I would take those odds even if forced to, I would rather go for at least two goals scored.
Also, it's Bayer, not Bayern. Wink

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Quote from: naira on September 27, 2024, 10:25:54 AM

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on September 26, 2024, 04:50:48 PM

AC Milan have an opportunity to get their first win of their Champions League campaign this season when they face Bayern Leverkusen next, hopefully they can get redemption for their lose to Liverpool in their first fixture to move up the table or else face difficult getting points to secure their promotion to the next stage of the tournament. [...]

Every team definitely has a chance to win, but from the odds picture you provided, it seems like we all have doubts that AC Milan can get their first Champions League win. Bayer Leverkusen is a strong team & they will also be playing a home game, so it will be difficult for AC Milan to get what they want this time.

AC Milan performance is very inconsistent and it will be difficult for us to gauge whether they are able to win the next match against Leverkusen. Like their first defeat against Liverpool, then in Serie A they performed impressively by defeating Inter who previously Inter were able to withstand dangerous aggression from Manchester City. Now AC Milan are faced with a challenge that is not easy, Leverkusen do not have experience in the Champions League with the current squad but seeing the success in the first match indicates that Leverkusen do not need to adapt in the Champions League.

In the end, that makes me not take too much risk betting on the Leverkusen vs AC Milan match.

Judging from their previous performance in their last matches in UCL, Leverkusen might be able to win Milan because I see the zeal and passion in the players to win their matches and advance to the round of 16. If because Milan was able to win Inter in their last derby match doesn't mean that it will play out the same way in Bay Arena because Leverkusen also won their last Bundesliga match.

It will be a big challenge for Milan to and and win away from home especially this time that they are trying to pick form. If it was last season, it might be possible. I feel that this match is an unpredictable one because these two teams hardly meets. However, I will place my bet on Leverkusen to win the match. If Leverkusen is able to win Bayern during the weekend, their chance of winning Milan will be high.

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