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August 21, 2024, 03:24:00 PM
Can't conclude something just because they saw in that match they had to get a draw, even though they only got a draw we also have to see how they played. Did they play well and they were just unlucky because they were only able to draw, or was there something else, like their teamwork wasn't fully working. This is their first match in La Liga, and previously they also won when facing Atalanta in the Super Cup final, so I agree someone who says Real Madrid will get bad results or they are doubted in the Champions League is unhealthy thinking. they are too hasty in concluding, while they don't know what Real Madrid can show in the future.

I don't know why people are making this a big deal at least not as if they lost the match they only played a draw game, and somtimes a lot of things do fail during playing, I know by now they would have noticed their mistake and will definitely adjust am sure and now that they have new tactics with mbappe on board now they will need to just take note of the important things, and their team work will come stronger in their next game and we know Real Madrid we should know that they don't have any challenges and you can not say the king of champions league have challenges just because they played draw on their first game this is something that can happen to any club. The super cup was interesting because they did a great job even Atlanta played well to but I saw the coordination that Real Madrid came with to the pitch,  and we are going to be expecting more games like that because I don't see any other person challenging Madrid for the la Liga title.

They might not win their first match but it will be difficult for any club to win them in UCL. We know that Real Madrid does not take Laliga that serious but they can do whatever it takes to make sure that they win UCL. This is the reason why I will not believe that Real Madrid will not be able to win the league again.

Ancelotti knows the matches to take serious and he does not mess with such matches. Drawing their first match is not a problem and will not stop them from achieving their target this season. I don't see any reason why one should be worried over Real Madrid drawing their last match.

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I don't know why people are making this a big deal at least not as if they lost the match they only played a draw game, and somtimes a lot of things do fail during playing, I know by now they would have noticed their mistake and will definitely adjust am sure and now that they have new tactics with mbappe on board now they will need to just take note of the important things, and their team work will come stronger in their next game and we know Real Madrid we should know that they don't have any challenges and you can not say the king of champions league have challenges just because they played draw on their first game this is something that can happen to any club. The super cup was interesting because they did a great job even Atlanta played well to but I saw the coordination that Real Madrid came with to the pitch,  and we are going to be expecting more games like that because I don't see any other person challenging Madrid for the la Liga title.

True, you can't and shouldn't come to a conclusion just because of a single  game which I'm also in support infact I made mention of it but it really sucks to be  Realmadrid  in the first place.... I mean everyone was surprised with their performance  Tongue, the fact that gamblers lost alot of bets to the this game should show how surprised people are towards the game though I wasn't too surprised.
About the Liga title , if they continue like this then  I don't see them taking it but let just assume they are the most favoured for it judging with their current squad( I mean that's what everyone seem to be looking at Smiley)
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August 21, 2024, 03:16:12 PM
An interesting start for the Young boy and Galatasaray game as its just 15mins of play and the switz team are already ahead by a goal in which they scored very early during the 4th mins of gameplay. Why I find this game interesting is because from my own take of the match I really never game the home team a chance looking at how bad and poor they have performing.
This is a poor start for Galatasaray. Last season they were better than what they are playing now. Perhaps it could be as a result of some players they sold during the break. I know about two forward and one midfielder they sold to get other players. And one disadvantage of starting new players in the Champions league is that most of them do not have the experience while others have not paired with the team completely.

Although it is still the first half and its only 2 goals difference. Nothing is impossible in football i expect that Galatasaray would score but i am not certain they might equalize or either win the game. It would be lucky if they do as they need it to be on a safer side.
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August 21, 2024, 03:09:01 PM
Damn, I missed a big odds bet win and it all fell apart when Qarabag was crushed by Zagreb. Initially I wanted to fill in BTTS (Yes) but I changed it and changed it to draw/Qarabag. But still the result is an advantage for the host by winning the first leg. Maybe with this it can be said that Qarabag's chances of qualifying through the second leg will be impossible.

For the other matches went smoothly and I think the luck of betting with four matches feels quite difficult to realize. But I will not give up and will try again in the next match.


Even result was expected to me because Zagreb is not bad team at all, but I am surprised with Qarabağ because I was expecting one goal from them, but sadly they fail to bring things on good level now we have big gaped with 3–0 is surely not easy to fill in second leg but as we have results in last few rounds anything is possible Qarabağ is doing good job in this season and their overall performance is satisfactory now can they give performance like we have from them in last game against Ludogorets.

Zagreb done good job while they score three goals and expose defense of their opponents, but next game is going to play in Azerbaijan and Qarabağ could be tried his best for having more than three goals in soccer results like this can happen because we are having surprised which is also important part of the UEFA events.
Your bet was good with BTTS but sadly having draw/Qarabağ is surely not ideal bet with away games has never been easy for any team usually we have not good end of them.
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August 21, 2024, 02:56:32 PM
Can't conclude something just because they saw in that match they had to get a draw, even though they only got a draw we also have to see how they played. Did they play well and they were just unlucky because they were only able to draw, or was there something else, like their teamwork wasn't fully working. This is their first match in La Liga, and previously they also won when facing Atalanta in the Super Cup final, so I agree someone who says Real Madrid will get bad results or they are doubted in the Champions League is unhealthy thinking. they are too hasty in concluding, while they don't know what Real Madrid can show in the future.

I don't know why people are making this a big deal at least not as if they lost the match they only played a draw game, and somtimes a lot of things do fail during playing, I know by now they would have noticed their mistake and will definitely adjust am sure and now that they have new tactics with mbappe on board now they will need to just take note of the important things, and their team work will come stronger in their next game and we know Real Madrid we should know that they don't have any challenges and you can not say the king of champions league have challenges just because they played draw on their first game this is something that can happen to any club. The super cup was interesting because they did a great job even Atlanta played well to but I saw the coordination that Real Madrid came with to the pitch,  and we are going to be expecting more games like that because I don't see any other person challenging Madrid for the la Liga title.
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August 21, 2024, 02:38:26 PM
An interesting start for the Young boy and Galatasaray game as its just 15mins of play and the switz team are already ahead by a goal in which they scored very early during the 4th mins of gameplay. Why I find this game interesting is because from my own take of the match I really never game the home team a chance looking at how bad and poor they have performing.

At least, Young Boys managed to maximize the chances it had because it was playing at home, and Young Boys success in making a quick goal in the 4th minute made Galatasaray play more aggressively of course to make a reply goal. Thus, basically the home team is not bad as you said because anyway, if for example the home team is bad then Young Boys will also not be able to make a quick goal like that.

After all, when a team has managed to score a goal, then usually the team will also play more defensively and that is common. But at least, there are still many chances for Galatasaray to score or maybe, because the match is still in the 36th minute at the time of writing then maybe Young Boys who are playing at home also still have a chance to make another goal. But at least, in my judgment it seems Galatasaray will be able to score at least to end the match in this first leg with a draw or maybe managed to comeback, who knows.
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August 21, 2024, 02:18:03 PM
An interesting start for the Young boy and Galatasaray game as its just 15mins of play and the switz team are already ahead by a goal in which they scored very early during the 4th mins of gameplay. Why I find this game interesting is because from my own take of the match I really never game the home team a chance looking at how bad and poor they have performing.
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August 21, 2024, 02:11:20 PM
Also, we'll miss BAY, Kaan, Kohn, and Sanchez in the game against YB. I think that will hurt our performance. However, it's still possible for us to score two goals at least with the current line up.

It seems Saray is gonna repeat a bad game, good score against YB.

Barış Alper and Köhn both are in the starting eleven right now. Unfortunately we have started the game by conceding a really silly goal. It was Muslera's mistake...

The goal came too early that we weren't expecting it. I hope we pull ourselves together in a short time. This is a game we can even win normally but even a draw wouldn't be bad.

Young Boys have started the season poorly. They have a bad defense. We need to benefit from their weaknesses to make a comeback. We have more effective attackers than them.  Smiley
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August 21, 2024, 01:42:41 PM
I'm doubting Real Madrid's ability to compete in the next Champions League because of their last draw against Mallorca, even though it's only the beginning of the season, I expected Real Madrid to be a threat to any of its opponents after signing Mbappe to the club, the performance against Mallorca was not as good as it was in the Super Cup final, and we expected Real Madrid to perform better in their games. However, do you believe Galatasaray has the strength to beat Young Boys in their away game today? In my point of view, the match will end in a draw.

Real Madrid cannot be quantified in that manner, how they play in the champions league is always different from how they play in league games. They have some kind of confidence when playing in the champions league and that’s what makes them different in that league. I have seen them play well in the champions league and still not able to win the La Liga trophy. Their game with Mallorca was expected by all to be a win but unfortunately, Mallorca were defensive enough to make it to a draw with them. Champions League is a game for the champions and Real Madrid are the champions and they will always excel in the competition no matter their circumstances and how they play in the league matches.
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August 21, 2024, 01:15:28 PM

For today, I have 2 bets in my mind:

- Galatasaray to score over 1.5 goals @1.71

Total odds aren't too much but it feels safe for me. Young Boys have terrible defense now. They have started the season horrible. I think they can easily concede that many. And for the other match, both teams are scoring a lot these days. I think this will be the same against each other as well.


Your choice makes sense. But, I'd rather take 1x2 Galatasaray to win the first leg. It offers @1.89, which is decent odds. Though an away game makes betting on 1x2 a bit riskier, but i think it's a sensible choice that offers good odds.

Also, we'll miss BAY, Kaan, Kohn, and Sanchez in the game against YB. I think that will hurt our performance. However, it's still possible for us to score two goals at least with the current line up.

It seems Saray is gonna repeat a bad game, good score against YB.

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There are some more games today and I think it is going to be a fine day but we still have some time until the groups start, that will be the best time because we will have a lot more games this time around, it will definitely be entertaining without a doubt. I know that it is not going to be easy to handle it all, but it looks like betting today isn't that fun.

It's just that teams feel like a lot more closer to each other than what odds are saying at this stage, so betting on this stage doesn't make sense, I do play on underdogs mostly because it feels like underdogs actually have a chance and closer than one might think ,it doesn't feel similar. In the end, we are going to bet anyway, it's just not the same feeling.

UCL is something that has to be group stages when you mean it, the knock out parts do not feel like it is the actual UCL and it feels like it hasn't even started yet, these are all feeling like a friendly to me, means a lot to these teams but not to me.
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With a charismatic manager with rich experience, and supported by the ideal squad depth, it seems that Real Madrid will be able to defend the La Liga trophy at the end of the season, they last did it in the 2006-2007 to 2007-2008 seasons. The financial crisis experienced by Barcelona has made it difficult for Hansi Flick team to develop, thus providing a good opportunity for Real Madrid to win the trophy in a row in two seasons. Atletico Madrid, Girona and other La Liga contestants have a very wide gap with Real Madrid, especially in terms of player composition.


It's always exciting when things are about getting better for Madrid, you can say that Mbappé is a very lucky player who can make a difference, and it's also the first time that Florentino says yes to a player who initially said no, which surprised me a lot, that's something I didn't know how to Explain, maybe Florentino saw that he was a good player who was a free agent and that made things a lot easier for him, it's a great move on a financial level, I think that was the main Reason.
Kylian Mbappe player-cam backfires as Real Madrid shown just how badly forward got it wrong with costly error




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Kylian Mbappe's costly mistake for Real Madrid in his domestic bow had a particular spotlight shone on it, even for him.

Watching fans were given the option to select player-cam for Mbappe for his La Liga debut, though anybody wanting to give it a moody Mogwai soundtrack a la Zidane would have to sort that out for themselves.

As such, it didn't go unnoticed that the much-vaunted summer signing was at fault as Mallorca scored their equaliser in a 1-1 draw, Rodrygo having fired Real Madrid ahead in the first half.

Source:https://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/kylian-mbappe-player-cam-backfires-as-real-madrid-shown-just-how-badly-forward-got-it-wrong-with-costly-error
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August 21, 2024, 12:16:13 PM
Bodo/Glimt managed to defeat Red Star at home. The hosts didn't even show the ball to their opponents in the first half and increased the pressure at the beginning of the second half and increased the difference to 2 goals in 16 minutes. Even though Red Star scored, they had no chance to win the match.
To be honest I didn't expect Karabakh to lose, they surprised me and the action of the match was in the second half. Both teams had many chances but the home team was more successful in taking advantage of them.
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August 21, 2024, 12:12:19 PM
The biggest thing is that with Messi and Ronaldo not in Europe at the moment and Mbappe joining Real Madrid, Mbappe has no worthy challenger to win the Ballon d'Or next season. Mbappe's Ballon d'Or win was made even easier by signing with Real Madrid. Mbappe now has to defend himself but he should have done better in the first match of La Liga where we didn't get the performance we expected from Mbappe.  
However, Mbappe has played two matches in Real Madrid jersey so far where he scored in the first match but he didn't get a chance to score in the second match but he has a full season ahead of him and if he can play at his best then he can definitely top the La Liga top scorer list.  

Millions of Mbappe fans are hoping that Mbappe will do well in La Liga as well as in the Champions League and add a Ballon d'Or to his name next season.

Mbappe could fall into the same trap as Haaland in his second year at City due to inflated expectations - he had a great season but everyone expected more. I don't think the Ballon d'Or is destined for Mbappe, he'll really have to work hard to get it. And I think even now Haaland is on par with Mbappe, and then there's Vinny, Bellingham and some other Real Madrid players who will "dilute" the votes of those who support Real Madrid.

Yes, even though Mbappe is at Real Madrid, but that is not a guarantee that Mbappe will get the highest achievements such as the Ballon d'Or easily because of course there will still be competition going on. Also, don't forget about Haaland because Haaland is still in a great team which still allows Haaland to be able to get his best results. Apart from that, of course there are still other players who also have the chance to get good results or performance too.

But indeed, if it is about Real Madrid then at least a player who basically has great potential like Mbappe, this will also give him a better chance. But even so, of course Mbappe still has to try to be better so that bad results like their first match in La Liga don't happen again too often.

You are correct that Mbappe cannot simply achieve success in Real Madrid; it will take time for him to reap significant rewards, and we must wait to see how he performs this season before determining whether or not he will win. However, given Mbappe's talent and ability, he will score many goals in the league. His first game in the league was not particularly good, but I am confident that their next game will be a game for them, and they will undoubtedly get three points because they are playing at home, and I don't think Valladolid as the squad to defeat real madrid.

Since they drew their first game, they will take it seriously and win their second game because Real Madrid has players who can win matches without stress. However, the information is not good for against Mallorca because they defend well and Madrid will not have the opportunity to break their box. Let's see how their next game goes. Real Madrid has always had success in the Champions League, therefore I believe Mbappe may win the Ballon d'Or because they are the favorites of UCl.
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August 21, 2024, 12:11:56 PM
Why will the Champions League be their main target of Manchester City who have won it more than any other team in recent times. Assuming it were the time they stayed several seasons without winning it, they it would have made more sense but now they may not be as passionate for the Champions League like before unless you are saying that Kylan Mbappe has that as his priority because that is the main reason he joined the European champions. Real Madrid will just play their normal game to win all the competition and without any desperation.
In Europe, every big club is having dream of win in Champions League but it's never been easy for them because it needs good work from the coach and players currently we are having Manchester City second-best team in Europe, and they can win any tile with their performance Pep Guardiola doing good job, and he is having good quality in his club as well but win is still not easy because we can have changes through injuries and other players related.

In this season, we will have good challenges from different teams all are preparing for the win and this is going to be had interesting fight at the top even Real Madrid is looking stronger and good, but this is also going to be not easy for them to face big teams which are having good changes for the win.


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Moreno233, What do you mean Manchester City have won it more than any other team in recent times lol? Cheesy  Real Madrid are the ones who have won it more than them in recent times. But I think every team dreams of winning it and Manchester City are no exception. They would want to win this championship. They have won the Premier League many times and I don’t think they would mind letting the Premier League go for the Champions League.

They have won the Premier League and Champions League together in that season, so I think it is very possible they can win both this season. But the thing is, it is very early in the season, and talking about these is just not relevant.

It might get tough for them to win both the league and the Champions League in the future if teams like Arsenal and Liverpool or even Manchester United cause them problems in the future in the table. But so far, to me, Manchester City are the favorites to win the Premier League. And if any teams from England are to win the Champions League, it would be Manchester City as well.
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August 21, 2024, 10:12:11 AM
Damn, I missed a big odds bet win and it all fell apart when Qarabag was crushed by Zagreb. Initially I wanted to fill in BTTS (Yes) but I changed it and changed it to draw/Qarabag. But still the result is an advantage for the host by winning the first leg. Maybe with this it can be said that Qarabag's chances of qualifying through the second leg will be impossible.

For the other matches went smoothly and I think the luck of betting with four matches feels quite difficult to realize. But I will not give up and will try again in the next match.



Really unlucky mate... I think all of your choices were quite reasonable to give a chance. Qarabag were going on really strong and I don't think that they played poorly in this match too. It was just a bad day.  Sad

For today, I have 2 bets in my mind:

- Galatasaray to score over 1.5 goals @1.71
- Dynamo Kyiv v Salzburg : both teams to score @1.54

Total odds aren't too much but it feels safe for me. Young Boys have terrible defense now. They have started the season horrible. I think they can easily concede that many. And for the other match, both teams are scoring a lot these days. I think this will be the same against each other as well.
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August 21, 2024, 10:09:14 AM
I'm doubting Real Madrid's ability to compete in the next Champions League because of their last draw against Mallorca, even though it's only the beginning of the season, I expected Real Madrid to be a threat to any of its opponents after signing Mbappe to the club, the performance against Mallorca was not as good as it was in the Super Cup final, and we expected Real Madrid to perform better in their games. However, do you believe Galatasaray has the strength to beat Young Boys in their away game today? In my point of view, the match will end in a draw.
The hype on Real Madrid in the Champions League is too much. People do forget any other team when it comes to Champions League because they do believe that no any other team can win the Champions League next season apart from Real Madrid since they won it last season, and they have also signed Mbappe which is a world-class player and a young player that knows how to score goals and create chances; but from their first Lalaiga match agasnt Mallorca, we have seen how their lack of defensive quality can caused them a lot of errors along the line because there are teams that have complete squad that can defeat Madrid.
Nevertheless, Champions League experience is difference and Madrid have it, but I am also not in support of them this season to win the Champions League because teams like Manchester City can stop them.
I don't think it's an exaggeration and it's a very natural thing because in fact until now they are the team that has won the most Champions League titles and they also set several records such as winning the title for 3 consecutive seasons. Plus now they have a luxurious squad, especially after the presence of Mbappe in the squad. I don't forget other teams that can also be champions here, because we have also seen other teams besides Real Madrid also successfully become champions in this Champions League. The bookies also in fact give odds to Real Madrid in second place after Manchester City, that means there are still many people who believe that it is not only Real Madrid who have the opportunity to defend the title they won last season. It is undeniable that Real Madrid's big name is one of the factors that they are widely watched in the Champions League and even in all competitions.
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we can start the speculations and what will be our favorite teams for next season
What do you think about it?


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the thread will be updated and closed after the end of UCL of course

Previous season:
- UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season - winner Real Madrid
- UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season - winner Manchester City

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- Real Madrid is the last winner of the cup.
- UEFA Champions League is the first cup of Europe. After Europa League and Conference League.
- There are 80 teams total, 32 in group stage in 8 group.
- Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Champions_League

It's champions league. Its a football game and anything can happen. Real Madrid has dominated for long and they have been known for there great come backs and never give up mentality when it comes to this league, yea.. But I feel other teams will get it this season. Despite bringing the Frenchman to Spain, I still feel that the tussle won't be easy and it may sleep off there fingers. For me, it's a
50/50 % things for these teams.
Real Madrid
Bayern Munich
Barcelona
Manchester city
Arsenal
Liverpool
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Here are the winning chance of each team to become a champion in the next season:

60% for Real Madrid
39% for Manchester City
1% for Arsenal, Inter, Milan, Barcelona, PSG, Bayern Munich, Leverkusen etc. Tongue

Real Madrid without Mbappe can still become a champion in this season, so it's no doubt majority of people will believe in Real Madrid.

Lolz. Your rating and thoughts of this season's Europe champions seems funny to me. You know it's football, and as a sportsman, you know how it is, you know how it goes. You know completely for sure that football is unpredictable. Though atimes we predict correctly, but common, 1% for team like Arsenal, almighty Barcelona and the likes is really unfair. Real Madrid has been champions over & over again, we all know that, and that they have all it takes to be crowned champions again, that's for sure, plus there knew signing, the French man, they are super cool and most favourite, we can't dispute that. But my point here is that, other teams too deserve a little better rating. Because a team like man city, Barcelona, Arsenal, Bayern Munich and few others are also good at the game and are more prepared that last Season to chase down the trophy too. So for me, even though real Madrid has an upper hand, other teams are also very much credible and reliable.

So it is Real Madrid 60% while other big and credible teams 40%..
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I'm doubting Real Madrid's ability to compete in the next Champions League because of their last draw against Mallorca, even though it's only the beginning of the season, I expected Real Madrid to be a threat to any of its opponents after signing Mbappe to the club, the performance against Mallorca was not as good as it was in the Super Cup final, and we expected Real Madrid to perform better in their games. However, do you believe Galatasaray has the strength to beat Young Boys in their away game today? In my point of view, the match will end in a draw.
The hype on Real Madrid in the Champions League is too much. People do forget any other team when it comes to Champions League because they do believe that no any other team can win the Champions League next season apart from Real Madrid since they won it last season, and they have also signed Mbappe which is a world-class player and a young player that knows how to score goals and create chances; but from their first Lalaiga match agasnt Mallorca, we have seen how their lack of defensive quality can caused them a lot of errors along the line because there are teams that have complete squad that can defeat Madrid.
Nevertheless, Champions League experience is difference and Madrid have it, but I am also not in support of them this season to win the Champions League because teams like Manchester City can stop them.
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