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Quote from: ndutndut on August 23, 2024, 12:34:54 PM

Quote from: shinratensei_ on August 23, 2024, 03:26:35 AM

It's very disappointing how Galatasaray was ruined by the ref for the penalty which is hitting the leg first. And i think this time the handball decision is based on the vibes now. I hope they're removing this trash rule as soon as possible. This is because it gave no certainty to the clearance of handball.

Also, the decision to give a second yellow was really shocking to me, too. Any decision in this game makes no sense to me at all.

This is a very interesting match of course because in this match full of drama that finally resulted in five goals scored in the Young Boys vs Galatasaray match. I will not blame the referee's controversial decisions if you think so but in my opinion Galatasay's defense was very weak in this match and Young Boys really took advantage of this opportunity especially playing in front of their own supporters and they succeeded.

This defeat is not the end for Galatasay because they still have a chance in the second leg to be able to turn things around in front of their own supporters. Galatasaray still has a lot of time to evaluate their squad before the second leg starts especially the defense line and must be able to score a quick goal so that their confidence increases. Moreover, the Galatasaray squad is superior to Young Boys because Galatasaray has several star players who are experienced in dealing with situations like this.

Back-and-forth 3-2 game that makes you dream for days. Galatasaray lost. But they showed flashes of brilliance. They had game-controlling moments. They couldnt turn dominance into goals. Then came the penalty and red card. Such things can ruin momentum. Character and pressure-handling are tested. Now Galatasaray failed that test.

It's not over yet until the second leg. The talented Galatasaray can fix this. Batshuayi scored easily upon arrival. That guy's a natural goalscorer. So, what do they need to do? Defense must be tightened. Stay focused and disciplined. The same fire they displayed in previous dominating moments must be shown again. They could win this tie if they can do that with the home fans behind them. Its difficult but achievable.

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Quote from: Hanadawa on August 24, 2024, 06:05:36 AM

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I think the match between Young Boys vs Galatasaray and Red Star vs Bodo/Glimt still has to be decided in the second leg. Beyond my expectation, both teams, Young Boys and Bodo/Glimt can win the match. But it is a narrow score. Galatasaray and Red Star still have the opportunity to catch up on the goal deficit. They only need 1 goal to equalize the aggregate. This is not difficult because Galatasaray and Red Star are the favorite teams in this match. I predict that both can turn things around and advance to the next round.
GNK Dinamo Zagreb managed to get a satisfactory result after defeating Qarabag 3-0. There is no more chance for Qarabag to catch up on the 3-goal deficit. That is an almost impossible mission.

Victory in the first leg clearly does not make the current position of the two teams safe to qualify for the champions league, young boy and Bodo/Glimt must be able to maintain their victory in the second leg or at least force their opponents to draw, for Bodo/glimt it will probably be it's easy to do this considering that their opponents are not stronger than them, but for the young boys of course I really doubt if they can maintain their victory in the second leg later, Galatasaray who will play at their home is not an easy opponent to beat let alone force them to a draw until At the end of the match, the chances of winning at Galatasaray's home ground are of course very small for the young boys, but even so, of course maybe they can surprise us all by beating Galatasaray later, but I think to ensure qualification for the Champions League this season, the young boys must not survive in the match is because it will make it easier for Galatasaray to dominate the match and it would be better for the young boys to continue to attack and trouble the Galatasaray defense so that they can break the concentration of the Galatasaray players later.

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That penalty was discussed at length on by some pundits. Turns out there are cases and rules about it that made it legit penalty. The idea is that, if it hits your normal body part first and then hit your hand then normally it is not a penalty, the only exception is that if it is your body part and then it still goes to goal and then hits your hand that's penalty.

In this case, Galatasaray player had the ball hit his leg first, but even after hitting the leg, the ball was still going in, before it was touched by the hand.

Was this the case? Was the ball going in if it didn't touch the hand? I do not know, I can't know the trajectory of the ball, but that is what the referee decided, and that is why he gave the penalty. Rules are rules and I guess this applied here.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on August 24, 2024, 04:29:53 AM

I think there are nearly finished matchups before the rematches already. Salzburg, Sparta Prague, Dinamo Zagreb and Lille seem really close to league phase. Of course nothing is guaranteed in football but my opinion is this.

I assume I will bet on Galatasaray to win home. After losing by 3-2 away, they have no choice other than a win. They are normally a better team than Young Boys. But it is just on paper so far. We couldn't see a good defensive effort. I hope to see it next time. Roll Eyes

What do you think about Bodo/Glimt? Will they make it? They have a 2-1 score advantage but I can't be sure. I like their game so I hope they also qualify.

Maybe I might bet on this one (3.48 total odds):

The bet on Galatasaray looks like easy money, but those two bets on BTTS are extremely dubious in my opinion. Roughly speaking, we get a coefficient of 2.56 (1.58*1.62) if each of the 4 teams scores a goal. Purely intuitively, this looks like a small reward for a big risk. If I were to make such a bet, I would leave one outcome BTTS or even take an increased risk and bet BTTS No. And maybe it makes sense to bet on Galatasaray to win with a handicap of -1.

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Quote from: Hanadawa on August 24, 2024, 06:05:36 AM

I think the match between Young Boys vs Galatasaray and Red Star vs Bodo/Glimt still has to be decided in the second leg. Beyond my expectation, both teams, Young Boys and Bodo/Glimt can win the match. But it is a narrow score. Galatasaray and Red Star still have the opportunity to catch up on the goal deficit. They only need 1 goal to equalize the aggregate. This is not difficult because Galatasaray and Red Star are the favorite teams in this match. I predict that both can turn things around and advance to the next round.
GNK Dinamo Zagreb managed to get a satisfactory result after defeating Qarabag 3-0. There is no more chance for Qarabag to catch up on the 3-goal deficit. That is an almost impossible mission.

Galatasaray and Red Star must be able to win more than one aggregate because if the aggregate is the same, then they must follow the penalty which in general can also be difficult to predict. But on the one hand I also prefer both teams when playing at home even though both teams have to catch up on a one-point deficit at home which can be obtained by the home team even though it is not easy. And while waiting for the second leg for them, it is good for us to watch domestic matches in several Leagues this weekend.

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Quote from: Hanadawa on August 24, 2024, 06:05:36 AM

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I think the match between Young Boys vs Galatasaray and Red Star vs Bodo/Glimt still has to be decided in the second leg. Beyond my expectation, both teams, Young Boys and Bodo/Glimt can win the match. But it is a narrow score. Galatasaray and Red Star still have the opportunity to catch up on the goal deficit. They only need 1 goal to equalize the aggregate. This is not difficult because Galatasaray and Red Star are the favorite teams in this match. I predict that both can turn things around and advance to the next round.
GNK Dinamo Zagreb managed to get a satisfactory result after defeating Qarabag 3-0. There is no more chance for Qarabag to catch up on the 3-goal deficit. That is an almost impossible mission.

I do not doubt that the young boys won Galatasaray in the second leg. If you watch the last game they had good ball possession and successful through-pass playing at their home. I expect such consistency when they meet Galatasaray at their home. Galatasaray needs one goal to equalize the aggregate and you expect young boys to let them have that opportunity. Instead, you said Galatasaray would win. There is no way that they will win. Young boys hold this wining.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on August 24, 2024, 04:41:41 AM

Dinamo Zagreb who I think are impressive. They have a 0-3 advantage over Qarabag. Qarabag will have no chance even though they will play at home. Chasing 3 goals is very difficult in a match like that. Unless they are Madrid.

As a Dinamo fan, I don't think that this is over despite the 3-0 win and if you saw the game, you would think the same. If Qarabag scores an early goal things could go south very fast and if they showed something in these CL qualifications is that they know how to score goals (despite the bad day in Zagreb). I hope that I am wrong though.

Quote from: Hanadawa on August 24, 2024, 06:05:36 AM

Galatasaray and Red Star still have the opportunity to catch up on the goal deficit. They only need 1 goal to equalize the aggregate. This is not difficult because Galatasaray and Red Star are the favorite teams in this match.

Tbh, I considered Bodo as a favorite vs Red Star and they should have win by much more than 2-1 (that astro turn thing is an advantage). Having said that, with only 1 goal behind Red Star has a real chance now to qualify for CL (which I hope they won't Grin

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Quote from: Hanadawa on August 24, 2024, 06:05:36 AM

GNK Dinamo Zagreb managed to get a satisfactory result after defeating Qarabag 3-0. There is no more chance for Qarabag to catch up on the 3-goal deficit. That is an almost impossible mission.

From the stats alone it seems like their first match is quite even. Even their xG is quite the same[1]. But it's clear that Dinamo Zagreb has more big chances that they successfully utilize to score goals. If Qarabag can utilize this data properly, they should at least be able to win on the second leg, although scoring 3 goals are a tough task. On the other hand they aren't facing a team like Real Madrid or another big shot so there's a slightly better chance as long as they play properly.

[1] https://www.fotmob.com/matches/qarabag-fk-vs-dinamo-zagreb/2pxn6a

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on August 24, 2024, 04:41:41 AM

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I think the match between Young Boys vs Galatasaray and Red Star vs Bodo/Glimt still has to be decided in the second leg. Beyond my expectation, both teams, Young Boys and Bodo/Glimt can win the match. But it is a narrow score. Galatasaray and Red Star still have the opportunity to catch up on the goal deficit. They only need 1 goal to equalize the aggregate. This is not difficult because Galatasaray and Red Star are the favorite teams in this match. I predict that both can turn things around and advance to the next round.
GNK Dinamo Zagreb managed to get a satisfactory result after defeating Qarabag 3-0. There is no more chance for Qarabag to catch up on the 3-goal deficit. That is an almost impossible mission.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on August 24, 2024, 04:29:53 AM

I think there are nearly finished matchups before the rematches already. Salzburg, Sparta Prague, Dinamo Zagreb and Lille seem really close to league phase. Of course nothing is guaranteed in football but my opinion is this.

I assume I will bet on Galatasaray to win home. After losing by 3-2 away, they have no choice other than a win. They are normally a better team than Young Boys. But it is just on paper so far. We couldn't see a good defensive effort. I hope to see it next time. Roll Eyes

What do you think about Bodo/Glimt? Will they make it? They have a 2-1 score advantage but I can't be sure. I like their game so I hope they also qualify.

Maybe I might bet on this one (3.48 total odds):

Galatasaray will maximize the second leg. They are only 1 goal ahead of Young Boys, it will not be difficult to get that advantage at their home ground. But for Bodo/Glimt, I am not sure about this team, the same as Young Boys they won the first leg by 1 goal. But they also have to play at Red Star. Your bet on both teams makes the score even better.

Dinamo Zagreb who I think are impressive. They have a 0-3 advantage over Qarabag. Qarabag will have no chance even though they will play at home. Chasing 3 goals is very difficult in a match like that. Unless they are Madrid.

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I think there are nearly finished matchups before the rematches already. Salzburg, Sparta Prague, Dinamo Zagreb and Lille seem really close to league phase. Of course nothing is guaranteed in football but my opinion is this.

I assume I will bet on Galatasaray to win home. After losing by 3-2 away, they have no choice other than a win. They are normally a better team than Young Boys. But it is just on paper so far. We couldn't see a good defensive effort. I hope to see it next time. Roll Eyes

What do you think about Bodo/Glimt? Will they make it? They have a 2-1 score advantage but I can't be sure. I like their game so I hope they also qualify.

Maybe I might bet on this one (3.48 total odds):

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Quote from: klidex on August 23, 2024, 10:57:28 PM

A difference of 1 aggregate is not enough for Young Boys to qualify from the play off round because in the second leg they must beat Galatasaray again or get a draw, if the referee does not award a penalty maybe their match will be a draw unfortunately Galatasaray is very aggressive and and one of the players gets a red card so they are disadvantaged by the referee's decision but in the second leg everything becomes not easy if Galatasaray only wins by a difference of 1 goal they will take it to a penalty shootout to determine who the winner is, Young Boys and Galatasaray are both tough clubs so it is quite difficult to determine who deserves to win because all of them deserve to continue playing in the Champions League but only one of them will qualify.

Because both are tough clubs, that's what makes their match more interesting in the second leg later even though Galatasaray must be able to win by more than one goal because they lost one aggregate in the first leg. However, I am more confident in Galatasaray's hard work because the team will definitely not let Young Boys win easily at Galatasaray's headquarters even though their potential looks equally strong. But I think it will be a different story if they have to go to penalties in the second leg.

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Quote from: ndutndut on August 23, 2024, 12:34:54 PM

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It's very disappointing how Galatasaray was ruined by the ref for the penalty which is hitting the leg first. And i think this time the handball decision is based on the vibes now. I hope they're removing this trash rule as soon as possible. This is because it gave no certainty to the clearance of handball.

Also, the decision to give a second yellow was really shocking to me, too. Any decision in this game makes no sense to me at all.

This is a very interesting match of course because in this match full of drama that finally resulted in five goals scored in the Young Boys vs Galatasaray match. I will not blame the referee's controversial decisions if you think so but in my opinion Galatasay's defense was very weak in this match and Young Boys really took advantage of this opportunity especially playing in front of their own supporters and they succeeded.

This defeat is not the end for Galatasay because they still have a chance in the second leg to be able to turn things around in front of their own supporters. Galatasaray still has a lot of time to evaluate their squad before the second leg starts especially the defense line and must be able to score a quick goal so that their confidence increases. Moreover, the Galatasaray squad is superior to Young Boys because Galatasaray has several star players who are experienced in dealing with situations like this.

Like Galatasaray's defense was so porous which led to conceding two goals in the first half and if not that Galatasaray's coach made a substitution and brought in Michy Batshuayi i don't know what would have been their fate because as soon as Batshuayi came in the 66th minute he scored in the 67th minutes and scored another goal in the 72th minutes which means had it been the coach brought him earlier possibly he could have scored a hat trick. The red card also affected Galatasaray even though it came towards the ending part of the second half but immediately Bardakci of Galatasaray got that red card the team became disorganized so the pressure led to the last goal they conceded but Galatasaray will likely win Young Boys when they play the second leg and the Coach should consider starting Michy Batshuayi because I saw he is a good player for the team so he can still have the opportunity of scoring when they face Young Boys again. Galatasaray have got more talented players than Young Boys so they can win in the returning leg.

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When a new season starts and when different teams play a few matches in the beginning we get an idea about different teams and accordingly predict a team that this team can reach this level this season but everything can be said about Real Madrid. It's not just that Real Madrid have strengthened their squad this season, they always focus on strengthening their squad in all aspects. And the most important thing is that Real Madrid has consistency and each player has a good understanding with each player which is why they are successful in almost every match and they will be successful in the next season.

The description of the form of play is not only seen in the Champions League because there may be other factors such as consistency of play in the domestic league. Although sometimes that is not a guarantee for them to play well in the Champions League or vice versa for many teams. For example, Dortmund played not very consistently in the Bundesliga, but they managed to advance to the final round where they were ultimately defeated by Real Madrid. Likewise, Arsenal and Man City played quite consistently in the Premier League, but they failed in the Champions League.

There are many factors that make a team play more consistently, especially in the Champions League because the competition in that league is quite tight. Experience, mentality and players and coaches really determine how they are able to reach the end of the final as champions

If the same team plays in these two tournaments of champion league or local league then the team has to play 2 strategies for both tournaments. A team in the local league will fight against an opponent in the Champions League, but the team will not fight against that opponent, that is, the opponents in the Champions League will definitely be difficult. The local league usually has 38 matches but the Champions League tournament doesn't have that many matches, only a few matches are played and a few matches ensure whether the team will advance to the next round or end their Champions League journey here. The teams that we always consider as favorites for the Champions League are always the best teams in Europe and based on their performances, they are placed as Champions League favourites.

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Quote from: rendravolt on August 23, 2024, 08:37:49 PM

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LOSC's victory in the first leg of the play-off round will make it easier for them to advance to the Champions League to fill the vacant place. They only need to get a draw or if they lose, as long as it is not more than 1 goal they will still qualify.
However, they must be careful with Slavia Prague because I am sure they will appear aggressive in the match in the second leg later. LOSC can apply a defensive strategy, but that is also quite risky if their concentration is not created very well. I myself predict that LOSC will be one of the representatives of Ligue 1 in the Champions League this season.

When I saw the fixtures if the UEFA Champions League qualifying games, predicting the winner of this particular tie was one of the easiest for me. Lille were only able to win with a 2:0 scoreline again Slavia Prague which to me was below expectations and will now travel to the home of the Czech club for the second leg. Slavia Prague at home will definitely want to fight for a comeback but I don't see that happening. If I'm to stake on that game, I'll go another Lille win. Do you think Slavia Prague have a chance?

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Quote from: Docnaster on August 23, 2024, 11:29:33 AM

The quality of football in a the league of any football nation most times manifest in the performance of the national team so I'm not surprised that Turkey did had a great performance in the recently concluded European Championship because football in the country's league have significantly improved. Turkish Super Lig club Galatasaray failed to win or at least secure a draw in the UEFA Champions League qualifying game against Swiss club Young Boys but I think they have all it takes to turn the tie around and find a way to progress to the finals of the competition when they host Young Boys in the second leg next season

The modern football era does make many differences where any country has a potential player to play on a much better scene. Europe is the target of many players because there the development of football has been so advanced and one of them Turkey has gotten it. Sometimes the defeat obtained does not show anything because they can still rise in the next match and the defeat is also caused by Galatasaray players who get a red card.

Young Boys is also fortunate enough to get a penalty so they scored the winning goal in the match. The second leg will take place in Galatasaray so they will definitely try to get a full victory. In experience and players they have, Galatasaray should be easier to win home matches.

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Quote from: rendravolt on August 23, 2024, 08:37:49 PM

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LOSC's victory in the first leg of the play-off round will make it easier for them to advance to the Champions League to fill the vacant place. They only need to get a draw or if they lose, as long as it is not more than 1 goal they will still qualify.
However, they must be careful with Slavia Prague because I am sure they will appear aggressive in the match in the second leg later. LOSC can apply a defensive strategy, but that is also quite risky if their concentration is not created very well. I myself predict that LOSC will be one of the representatives of Ligue 1 in the Champions League this season.

There are many variables that will make Lille qualify so convincingly in the second leg but I wonder if Slavia Prague can overturn the aggregate advantage at home later?

Honestly, I wonder what both teams will do to achieve their goals and if there are holes from each team it will worsen their fate. The defensive option is not always good and I think rather than doing that strategy it is better for Lille to continue attacking until the end. Because that will put Slavia Prague under pressure and vice versa if Slavia Prague plays an important role, it is not impossible that Lille will be an easy target for the hosts.

This match is still very difficult for them, in fact Slavia Prague has high consistency when playing at home, two goals alone are not difficult enough, but there are many ways for them to win the title ticket which is currently held by Lille, Slavia Prague seems to be doing everything for it and Lille will also defend as much as possible, but Lille is quite careless when playing away, will they be destroyed by Slavia Prague? I think so, Slavia Prague is a compact club in its competition and they are very often in the Champions League, unlike Lille, their mentality is quite high without isolating Lille, they are in good form in the last few seasons and Slavia is quite respected there. Looking at their track record I am sure in the second leg which will take place in Slavia Prague they will win because they have a balanced squad with Lille so there is no resistance to controlling one ball, Lille managed to win with a score of 2-0 in the first half and I think they will make a defensive system when they meet them in fact Lille also had quite a hard time beating them at home so I think Slavia Prague's chances of qualifying are very big they are at home what they do is quite tough so most likely they will grab a ticket there.

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Young Boys managed to capitalize on their home game with a win, a result that is very good for them to start the match in the second leg. Young Boys players played a bit less well in the second half, Galatasaray managed to equalize before the home team managed to secure victory after the referee awarded them a penalty. Galatasaray still have a chance to turn things around when Young Boys visit their home base, they just need to step up their attack to get a goal in the first half. The defensive area needs to be tightly closed because Young Boys also wants to steal a goal at their home base, but if the Young Boys players are able to keep the score level, then they are entitled to advance to the next phase.

Galatasaray will definitely try to turn things around in the second leg which will take place at their home base although it might not be easy enough for Galatasaray. However, there is no other choice for Galatasaray other than to beat Young Boys with a better aggregate because I am also quite sure that Young Boys themselves will definitely try to score another goal at Galatasaray's headquarters because now Young Boys only have one aggregate lead based on the score in the first leg when Young Boys played at their home.

A difference of 1 aggregate is not enough for Young Boys to qualify from the play off round because in the second leg they must beat Galatasaray again or get a draw, if the referee does not award a penalty maybe their match will be a draw unfortunately Galatasaray is very aggressive and and one of the players gets a red card so they are disadvantaged by the referee's decision but in the second leg everything becomes not easy if Galatasaray only wins by a difference of 1 goal they will take it to a penalty shootout to determine who the winner is, Young Boys and Galatasaray are both tough clubs so it is quite difficult to determine who deserves to win because all of them deserve to continue playing in the Champions League but only one of them will qualify.

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Quote from: hyudien on August 23, 2024, 10:12:56 AM

LOSC's victory in the first leg of the play-off round will make it easier for them to advance to the Champions League to fill the vacant place. They only need to get a draw or if they lose, as long as it is not more than 1 goal they will still qualify.
However, they must be careful with Slavia Prague because I am sure they will appear aggressive in the match in the second leg later. LOSC can apply a defensive strategy, but that is also quite risky if their concentration is not created very well. I myself predict that LOSC will be one of the representatives of Ligue 1 in the Champions League this season.

There are many variables that will make Lille qualify so convincingly in the second leg but I wonder if Slavia Prague can overturn the aggregate advantage at home later?

Honestly, I wonder what both teams will do to achieve their goals and if there are holes from each team it will worsen their fate. The defensive option is not always good and I think rather than doing that strategy it is better for Lille to continue attacking until the end. Because that will put Slavia Prague under pressure and vice versa if Slavia Prague plays an important role, it is not impossible that Lille will be an easy target for the hosts.

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Quote from: mvdheuvel1983 on August 23, 2024, 01:24:08 PM

Galatasaray have what it takes to get win against Young Boys in the return match but they have to tighten up their defense so that they will not concede cheap goals again, they did not play well in the first half that was why they conceded 2 goals then during the second half M. Batshuayi came in an made a great change in the Galatasaray team by helping them to equalize the 2 goals but the last minute red card gave the home team the opportunity to win with a penalty kick. The second leg will determine if Galatasaray will progress or not.

this is exactly why champions league is always different, you can have what it takes to beat a team and still loose to the team yet you are still seen as the better side and the favorite of everyone, thou Galatasaray lost but they still had a better chance than young boys, lets hope like you said in the return leg, they will be bale to make up for it and proceed to the next stage of the games because this goals they did concede was much and its considered too if they end up in a tie, the goal difference becomes the yardstick for judgment. i did liked the fact that young boys were able to utilize opportunities as they came knowing what's at stake for them as the champions league is such a prestigious and honorable win for if they eventually get to win the trophy by the end of the season and that's why they weren't giving chances to any mistakes.

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