UEFA Champions League 2024/25 Season - page 45.

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Quote from: skarais on November 04, 2024, 03:50:38 PM

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I don't think AC Milan will be too difficult for Real Madrid to win because Real Madrid have only the Champions league as their main target this season as Barcelona is looking all set to lift the Spanish La Liga title. Besides, it was because of the Champions league title that made Mbappe to move to Real Madrid so I believe he will give his best to achieve that, besides, Real Madrid have a better team at the moment.

So what would you say if Real Madrid suffered their second defeat in the Champions League tomorrow?
Milan are also eager to win the match and they are also targeting the same high place as other teams including Real Madrid. Underestimating Milan completely is a mistake, of course you could lose because of that.

Previously, only a few percent of users believed Barcelona would win El Clasico, but in fact Barcelona managed to destroy Real Madrid with a score of 0-4 at home. Take that as an example, so nothing is impossible.

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Quote from: skarais on November 04, 2024, 03:50:38 PM

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I really don't know if that lost to their rivals plus the additional drama of the ballon Dior will affect the likes of vinicius jnr in this their clash in the champions league or not although I know that ancelotti will try everything under his power to make things work out well so that they can get back to winning ways so like you said nothing than a victory would be expected of them. The actual game that will really interest me is even the Manchester city game against sporting FC from Portugal and this is because this sporting team is in very good shape.

Considering that Milan is not in the best form, we should not doubt Real Madrid's chances of winning in this match. The players have had enough rest after they had 1 postponed match in La Liga, so Real Madrid is really fit to try to win at home against Milan. But still, Milan must also be considered a strong team even though so far Milan has only won 1 of 3 Champions League matches.

I don't think AC Milan will be too difficult for Real Madrid to win because Real Madrid have only the Champions league as their main target this season as Barcelona is looking all set to lift the Spanish La Liga title. Besides, it was because of the Champions league title that made Mbappe to move to Real Madrid so I believe he will give his best to achieve that, besides, Real Madrid have a better team at the moment.

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Another interesting match in my opinion is the match between Liverpool vs Leverkusen. Liverpool are in their best form and they managed to lead the Premier League standings some time ago, while Leverkusen has performed well so far with 2 wins from 3 matches. This match will be exciting considering that Xabi Alonso will be playing against his former club from his past as a coach, so it will be worth the wait.

I expect Liverpool to win given that Bayern Leverkusen seems to have lost their reign this season. Their performance have not been as expected from the defending champion of the German Bundesliga, besides they don't have much champions league experience like Liverpool. It will be very difficult for them to survive this round of the competition.

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Quote from: irhact on November 04, 2024, 11:07:12 AM

Real Madrid just use more goals to win you, to stand against them you have to be willing to score too and you can do that.

This is something other clubs in Europe do not understand. Somehow, only Barcelona gets it. If you want to beat Madrid, you just have to keep scoring, don't take your foot off the gas. Most teams score 2 goals against Madrid and they feel they have won, that's a mistake they all make. If you watch when Barcelona beats Real Madrid, they make sure they dismantle them because they know that all they need is just one goal and they could come back, so they make sure they don't get that goal and even when they get that goal, Barcelona does not relax, they continue to search for more goals.

Last season, Bayern Munich kept wasting their chances and that was when I knew Madrid would qualify, the Same thing happened against Dortmund. I never for a second felt Madrid would lose that game because Dortmund had the opportunity to make it 3 or 4 ut they kept missing and giving Madrid a lifeline and they got punished.
So if Milan wants to win against Madrid, they have to take the game to Madrid and continues pressing till the end of the match while taking their chances because if they miss their chances, Madrid will ounis them.

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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on November 04, 2024, 02:10:16 PM

Predictions are not always correct and match results may be different than expected. However, teams that have good squad depth will always be favored over their opponents and they are more likely to win than non-favorite teams. You may need to admit that, even if you know that the outcome of the game could have been different.

Real Madrid, Manchester City, PSG, Barcelona, Bayern Munich and several other top teams are favorites in their respective matches against weaker teams, but the fact is that they can also lose or draw so gamblers have to feel the consequences. But in most matches, they are all favorites to secure victory.

That's just it...we might have sets of top teams with strong squads compare to less strong team with less strong squad, I wouldn't call them weak because they had to be among the best in their various leagues to make the Uefa champions league ground and this means there are no small or weak teams (maybe) in UCL, those top teams with strong squads can still lose or draw to the less stronger ones... and at the same time they could win just that the probability of them winning is always high when it comes to prediction. Thus, every prediction in UCL is always likey to fail even though it could be right.

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Quote from: mamesso on November 04, 2024, 12:15:31 AM

I prefer to judge the performance of both teams this season rather than comparing Milan's past success and Madrid's success in winning the UCL last season. The results achieved by both teams in the last few matches make Madrid more favored, especially since this match will be held at the Bernabeu. Milan have yet to find their best form since the start of the season, they have also experienced 2 defeats in 3 matches in the UCL, while in Serie A they have been thrown to 7th position with a record of 3 defeats and 2 draws from 10 matches. Madrid will not waste the opportunity to get full points, especially since in the previous match they also managed to have a goal party against Dortmund.

While it would be wise to check past history to see how they were, I agree that current season is what matters. Real Madrid had some troubling games, specially with Barcelona recently, but we are seeing a team that is masters of UCL so they should be able to get this win, they need to. Milan on the other hand do not look like they are that great and they may end up with a loss here, they have been troubled all season long and they are looking like they will have some problems as well.

I believe we are going to see some things changing as well, and because of this we need to make sure they are ending up with a good result one way or another. I can't really consider how things could change, but when the time comes, we will see them do fine. Milan is just not ready for that yet, they may get better but not with this game. Real Madrid should be getting the win, not an easy win, not domination, but definitely a win that would be the important case for them.

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I really don't know if that lost to their rivals plus the additional drama of the ballon Dior will affect the likes of vinicius jnr in this their clash in the champions league or not although I know that ancelotti will try everything under his power to make things work out well so that they can get back to winning ways so like you said nothing than a victory would be expected of them. The actual game that will really interest me is even the Manchester city game against sporting FC from Portugal and this is because this sporting team is in very good shape.

Considering that Milan is not in the best form, we should not doubt Real Madrid's chances of winning in this match. The players have had enough rest after they had 1 postponed match in La Liga, so Real Madrid is really fit to try to win at home against Milan. But still, Milan must also be considered a strong team even though so far Milan has only won 1 of 3 Champions League matches.

Another interesting match in my opinion is the match between Liverpool vs Leverkusen. Liverpool are in their best form and they managed to lead the Premier League standings some time ago, while Leverkusen has performed well so far with 2 wins from 3 matches. This match will be exciting considering that Xabi Alonso will be playing against his former club from his past as a coach, so it will be worth the wait.

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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on November 04, 2024, 02:10:16 PM

Predictions are not always correct and match results may be different than expected. However, teams that have good squad depth will always be favored over their opponents and they are more likely to win than non-favorite teams. You may need to admit that, even if you know that the outcome of the game could have been different.

Real Madrid, Manchester City, PSG, Barcelona, Bayern Munich and several other top teams are favorites in their respective matches against weaker teams, but the fact is that they can also lose or draw so gamblers have to feel the consequences. But in most matches, they are all favorites to secure victory.

Winning top games becomes fierce when it comes difficult leagues in football, always challenging. Football is made easy when it comes to predictions, I'm only confident when I'm wagering on top clubs because they've a good status to win games. The odds of these big clubs winning games are usually stable and constant, we're acquainted with that fact. We know the elite formidable clubs, they're the best ranking club and having top performance in matches proves everything. Manchester City and Real Madrid stands to be the main clubs competent for lifting major titles and they're not taking anything easy, always forcing their way through winning major titles.

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Quote from: abhiseshakana on November 04, 2024, 10:12:19 AM

Real Madrid and Milan both have poor defensive lines but the difference is Real Madrid overcame that weakness with their goal productivity, something that Milan still can't do in the Champions League at the moment. Referring to those conditions, I think the match will belong to Real Madrid, and they will at least win by more than one goal difference. Real Madrid may be annoyed because they were humiliated by Barcelona, therefore they will be looking for redemption after failing.

Real Madrid's goal productivity is more, of course, we can see from their sharp attack line so goals of more than 2 it will be very possible to do Real Madrid especially playing at home I feel this match will belong to the host.

Being humiliated by Barcelona in LaLiga is inevitable because the reality is that Barcelona is better, but Real Madrid must now be able to get points continuously in UCL matches so as not to enter the playoffs.

Anyway, there is no doubt that Real Madrid will lose, even if it is a draw for me it is a bit surprising so a win will probably happen.

I really don't know if that lost to their rivals plus the additional drama of the ballon Dior will affect the likes of vinicius jnr in this their clash in the champions league or not although I know that ancelotti will try everything under his power to make things work out well so that they can get back to winning ways so like you said nothing than a victory would be expected of them. The actual game that will really interest me is even the Manchester city game against sporting FC from Portugal and this is because this sporting team is in very good shape.

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Quote from: abhiseshakana on November 04, 2024, 10:12:19 AM

Real Madrid and Milan both have poor defensive lines but the difference is Real Madrid overcame that weakness with their goal productivity, something that Milan still can't do in the Champions League at the moment. Referring to those conditions, I think the match will belong to Real Madrid, and they will at least win by more than one goal difference. Real Madrid may be annoyed because they were humiliated by Barcelona, therefore they will be looking for redemption after failing.

Real Madrid's goal productivity is more, of course, we can see from their sharp attack line so goals of more than 2 it will be very possible to do Real Madrid especially playing at home I feel this match will belong to the host.

Being humiliated by Barcelona in LaLiga is inevitable because the reality is that Barcelona is better, but Real Madrid must now be able to get points continuously in UCL matches so as not to enter the playoffs.

Anyway, there is no doubt that Real Madrid will lose, even if it is a draw for me it is a bit surprising so a win will probably happen.

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Inasmuch you think that Dortmund, Manchester City, and Leipzig would win against their opponent in a Champions League match because they are formidable than them, don't forget that the result of games can change before the end of 90 minutes of play, given the unexpected team the victory that nobody anticipated for.

However, the match odds of the three games you predicted for a bet win, no one has a winning odd above 1.50. I wonder how someone will make huge money from them if they are to bet with the little amount they can afford to lose. These three games you mentioned can go as predicted, for win bets but you can't be too sure about them because football can leave you shocked with its match results.

Predictions are not always correct and match results may be different than expected. However, teams that have good squad depth will always be favored over their opponents and they are more likely to win than non-favorite teams. You may need to admit that, even if you know that the outcome of the game could have been different.

Real Madrid, Manchester City, PSG, Barcelona, Bayern Munich and several other top teams are favorites in their respective matches against weaker teams, but the fact is that they can also lose or draw so gamblers have to feel the consequences. But in most matches, they are all favorites to secure victory.

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Quote from: Webetcoins on November 04, 2024, 09:49:43 AM

Some good games for betting is available for the week, which is always welcomed without a doubt. Dortmund game seems quite delicious, they should be able to beat Strum Graz if you ask me, Man City should be able to beat Sporting as well, Leipzig is my favourite against Celtic, and lastly while it is closer, I still think Real Madrid should be able to beat Milan.

When you bet these games you end up with a good parlay and you could make some good money as well, not something that would be bothered by some people since it's not too high and depends on too many games but it's definitely not a bad bet neither.

I believe we are going to see people make this kind of parlay this week, because it looks like a good way to make some money. I am pretty sure we are going to end up with some issues, because betting isn't easy and we can't just win all the time, so this could very well be another loss, but I sure do hope that it ends up with a profitable result.

Inasmuch you think that Dortmund, Manchester City, and Leipzig would win against their opponent in a Champions League match because they are formidable than them, don't forget that the result of games can change before the end of 90 minutes of play, given the unexpected team the victory that nobody anticipated for.

However, the match odds of the three games you predicted for a bet win, no one has a winning odd above 1.50. I wonder how someone will make huge money from them if they are to bet with the little amount they can afford to lose. These three games you mentioned can go as predicted, for win bets but you can't be too sure about them because football can leave you shocked with its match results.

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On Tuesday night at the Santiago Bernabeu, Real Madrid will be playing hosts to AC Milan for their group stage encounter. It'll be a game where the most successful football club in the competition will be playing against the second most successful team in the competition and at such, I'll want to know your predictions about that game. For me, I think it'll a sure win for the reigning Spanish and European champions but someone was telling me that AC Milan might come to Real Madrid's home to shock them. Who do you think will win that game?

Both teams have an undoubted track record in the Champions League competition. To measure the success of this season is clearly not the right time. Because both teams are not in their ideal performance. Moreover the Rossoneri players are losing confidence, and the hosts also still can't build their ideal game system with a composition of star players. So my prediction is not too hopeful most likely it will be a boring match with minimal goals.

When AC Milan and Real Madrid meet in the Champions League, we will definitely see a tough competition. Real Madrid is always the best team but we are not satisfied with the performance of Real Madrid recently. In the last few matches that Real Madrid have played, they have not had much success. Not only are Real Madrid underperforming but AC Milan are underperforming considerably and they are far down on points in their local league competition. As this is a Champions League match, we can see a competitive match in this match where Real Madrid will not concede AC Milan and AC Milan will certainly not concede Real Madrid.

But if I have to bet on this match then I will bet on Real Madrid because Real Madrid's performance is always good in Champions League matches.

Right tomorrow we will see who will turn the tide. Indeed Real Madrid will be the victors of tomorrow's match because every one knows that when it's came the turn of Uefa Champion League Real Madrid becomes a real beast. Thus far tomorrow Real Madrid will face AC Milan at thier own home stadium in Santiago Bernbeu. So I think Real Madrid will try their best to restore their good form and win the match with a huge number of goals. And if real madrid gets to fail and didn't get the chance to become a winner. So obviously they will seek out about their new coach. Because the main focus of real madrid is the league and UCL and when the team fails in both major objectives, the coach should be changed. But well I think Carlos Angeloti will try hard to beat AC Milan to maintain his position as a great coach.

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Quote from: Justbillywitt on November 04, 2024, 09:38:00 AM

Real Madrid are beast when it comes to the champions League. No matter how badly they might be playing domestically. They did it against Dortmund, and over the years we have seen them defy odds and turn it to their favour. I understand that both teams are struggling at the moment, but Madrid should not find it difficult to win AC Milan. Just as you have rightly stated, the game is definitely going to be boring, but the intensity of the game will be determine by AC Milan. Same way Dortmund woke up the beast in Madrid. AC Milan hasn't been doing too well in their champions League games, so this is going to be another loss for them. I'm betting on Madrid to take the maximum points here without much drama.

Everyone would have loved to bet on Real Madrid to be the team that will this game without any doubt but since football may be full of surprises and unpredictable at some points, they need to be some actions one need to take with caution. From the team in question now, you can’t say that the game will be that easy for Real Madrid to win. Even though Real Madrid may be very dominant than them and has the qualities and experience more than them, but they can still try to get something out of this match which we may see them drawing the match or at the best case scenario for them win the match. AC Milan is not a team that is very bad in quality, they can win the match, so let’s not outcast them that they can’t win anything in this match and will just lose easily to Real Madrid.

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Quote from: X-ray on November 04, 2024, 11:28:18 AM

It's interesting to see a clash between two strikers with most offsides lately. I think the offside flags will wave more in the upcoming game. Cheesy

As for the game, I still pick Real Madrid to win the game. Both clubs are not at their best, so I expect a fierce match. The home game is an advantage for Real Madrid. However, they struggled in their last home game against BVB. So, the same thing could happen again. But, I'm optimistic they will demolish Milan soon.

Madrid gets 1.48, which is good enough to bet since it's gonna play at home.

LOL I want to laugh at this picture.

This usual home match will be more favored for Real Madrid even though they have lost to Lille and can comeback from the Dortmund match it can be a big motivation, not that Real Madrid's mentality in the CL is not in doubt, while for now Milan is still in doubt.

Odds of 1.48 are still decent, this should be a single bet.

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Bernabeu can indeed be a haunted place for opponents that Real Madrid will face, but their current performance also made them lose badly to Barcelona when they played at the stadium. Now Ancelotti has to think hard so that they can get a win in an important match like this, especially this is the Champions League where every point will greatly affect their fate to be able to qualify without having to go through the play-off round or not. AC Milan just won narrowly when facing Monza in Serie A, at least that is a good enough capital for them to bring to the Champions League match. But I also agree that Real Madrid is the main favorite in this match.

But according to AC Milan has not yet regained its strength, they have more problems than Real Madrid, although Real Madrid suffered a defeat yesterday, but I think they are not that bad that they lost to AC Milan, Ancelotti must have fixed it, his main mistake in the Barcelona match yesterday, many of the attacking players' movements were often exposed to the offside trap which made it difficult for them to attack and Hansi Flick managed to use that strategy against Real Madrid which made them lose heavily to Barcelona.

It was a weapon that was indeed very effective used by Hansi Flick when he defeated Real Madrid, and it seems that Ac Milan will apply the same thing or they will do what Barcelona did. Because it has been proven that this method is very effective in frustrating Real Madrid's attack line.
However, on the other hand, Real Madrid will also evaluate what happened in the match, so that when Ac Milan tries to apply the same strategy, Real Madrid can prevent it with the preparations they make. Because they will also be surprised when their strategy can be thwarted by the strategy of Barcelona's defenders who are very clever at positioning themselves.

It really feels hard if Real Madrid did not evaluate his previous defeat, surely it was anticipated by Ancelotti, as in the language it is impossible to enter the same trap after you experience it, unless you do not learn from the previous mistakes, it will happen again.

Arrange the pattern of the match and seeing how the opponent has a defensive strategy should be the key to facing his defense, we know that Real Madrid has speed, but if they are too much use it will be hit by the same trap, so it has been thought by Hansi Flick to close the line of defense So that they are in a trap room that they cannot avoid.

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I also hope that Real Madrid will win the upcoming UEFA Champions League match between Real Madrid and AC Milan but maybe this match will not be easy for Madrid. The fact that AC Milan are not performing well in the current Serie A league does not mean that they are a weak side in the UEFA Champions League. I think the teams that have had the opportunity to play and participate in the Champions League are all strong teams. They qualify to play in this league only through their best performances.

Real Madrid faced Borussia Dortmund in their last Champions League match, which Real Madrid won 5–2 goals. AC Milan lost their first two matches in this year's UEFA Champions League but won the third match. Both the teams won their last matches in the Champions League which boosted the confidence of the players of both the teams. As a result, they will be able to perform well in the next matches.

Considering the current form and Real Madrid's ability to win against bigger opponents, the odds are for them. But, one should not underestimate AC Milan. Even though they had a not-so-great start to their Champions League this season, the Italians have experience; they have wonderful traditions for European competitions. The Italians will play their best game and make it as hard as possible for the Spaniards to win.

This is going to be a pretty tight affair, with Madrid looking to play a control game and Milan wanting to exploit any gaps that might arise. Madrid is going to have to be awake on their game and take up their chances because Milan will not surrender on that easily.

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I expect Real Madrid to win this games without much struggling, perhaps with a very large margin because AC Milan are not in a very good shape at the moment. AC Milan may not be able to face Real Madrid at this point in time due to their depreciating form this season in the serie A as they are on occupying the 7th position, and they've not been doing too well also in the champions League. The Milan side are still struggling with form even with the introduction of their new manager Fonseca who came to help put things right, besides Carlo Ancelotti knows how to tackle the Italian side because he knows the team he's up against and has worked with Milan in the past which is an added advantage because he will certainly know how to tackle them with his killer squad.

I also hope that Real Madrid will win the upcoming UEFA Champions League match between Real Madrid and AC Milan but maybe this match will not be easy for Madrid. The fact that AC Milan are not performing well in the current Serie A league does not mean that they are a weak side in the UEFA Champions League. I think the teams that have had the opportunity to play and participate in the Champions League are all strong teams. They qualify to play in this league only through their best performances.

Real Madrid faced Borussia Dortmund in their last Champions League match, which Real Madrid won 5–2 goals. AC Milan lost their first two matches in this year's UEFA Champions League but won the third match. Both the teams won their last matches in the Champions League which boosted the confidence of the players of both the teams. As a result, they will be able to perform well in the next matches.

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Quote from: Docnaster on November 03, 2024, 06:21:39 PM

On Tuesday night at the Santiago Bernabeu, Real Madrid will be playing hosts to AC Milan for their group stage encounter. It'll be a game where the most successful football club in the competition will be playing against the second most successful team in the competition and at such, I'll want to know your predictions about that game. For me, I think it'll a sure win for the reigning Spanish and European champions but someone was telling me that AC Milan might come to Real Madrid's home to shock them. Who do you think will win that game?

It's interesting to see a clash between two strikers with most offsides lately. I think the offside flags will wave more in the upcoming game. Cheesy

As for the game, I still pick Real Madrid to win the game. Both clubs are not at their best, so I expect a fierce match. The home game is an advantage for Real Madrid. However, they struggled in their last home game against BVB. So, the same thing could happen again. But, I'm optimistic they will demolish Milan soon.

Madrid gets 1.48, which is good enough to bet since it's gonna play at home.

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Quote from: abhiseshakana on November 04, 2024, 10:12:19 AM

Real Madrid and Milan both have poor defensive lines but the difference is Real Madrid overcame that weakness with their goal productivity, something that Milan still can't do in the Champions League at the moment. Referring to those conditions, I think the match will belong to Real Madrid, and they will at least win by more than one goal difference. Real Madrid may be annoyed because they were humiliated by Barcelona, therefore they will be looking for redemption after failing.

Real Madrid just use more goals to win you, to stand against them you have to be willing to score too and you can do that. Real Madrid focus on their attackers didn't replace their midfield well enough. Better players left or are becoming old but the players replacing them aren't up to the standard of the pasts players. Kross, modric are better players than the current players playing in the midfield. The defence too aren't stronger than the pass defenders but we can't say the same for the attackers as the current players are closer to the past attackers than any other positions for the rest do the team. AC Milan shouldn't be scared of attacking Real Madrid to get a chance to win.

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Quote from: Webetcoins on November 04, 2024, 09:49:43 AM

Some good games for betting is available for the week, which is always welcomed without a doubt. Dortmund game seems quite delicious, they should be able to beat Strum Graz if you ask me, Man City should be able to beat Sporting as well, Leipzig is my favourite against Celtic, and lastly while it is closer, I still think Real Madrid should be able to beat Milan.

When you bet these games you end up with a good parlay and you could make some good money as well, not something that would be bothered by some people since it's not too high and depends on too many games but it's definitely not a bad bet neither.

I believe we are going to see people make this kind of parlay this week, because it looks like a good way to make some money. I am pretty sure we are going to end up with some issues, because betting isn't easy and we can't just win all the time, so this could very well be another loss, but I sure do hope that it ends up with a profitable result.

Favorite match that will be held is certainly, Dortmund, Leipzig and Real Madrid and I think it will be a victory for them with a high probability, doing a parlay bet on this team has a pretty big chance.
Yes if you lose again I think it is normal and it is also a common thing in matches on the field and betting, we cannot force it, if we have luck then try the courage to bet then maybe it will be better, then enjoy the match, BTW Real Madrid must win. LOL

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