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Are you serious with what you said? I mean we should not think that AC Milan has no chance to win? I think that is not right at all. Because even in a situation where AC Milan is not in very good form, they still have a chance, even though the chance is not big. Even in all matches both teams will have a chance to win, what makes the difference is whether the chance is big or small, that's all. Real Madrid is also in a bad state, if you say they will be angry and AC Milan will be the team that will be the victim of their anger, so will AC Milan. AC Milan just lost to Napoli and with that defeat they might feel the same thing.

Just because Real Madrid was defeated by Barcelona in an embarrassing way does not nean that you should underestimate them. Barcelona is in a very good form and you could see what they did to Bayern. Milan couldn't score any goal against Napoli yesterday, how do you think that they will be able to score Real Madrid on that match day. I have the strong believe that Real Madrid strikers will net Milan, if not for Flick strategy that he told his defenders to use in order for them to always put Madrid strikers on offside, Madrid could have been able to score at least one goal for motivation. I will bet on Real Madrid, maybe you can bet on Milan, but I know that the chance of Milan to win is very small.

Barcelona's win against Real Madrid should not be a reason why we should underrate Real Madrid in any of their matches, even against Ac Milan. Real Madrid's performance is better than Ac Milan's up until now, so I’m pretty sure Real Madrid will beat Ac Milan.

We should not completely underrate them because of their result against Barcelona. Real Madrid will win AC Milan, and let's watch and see how the game will end. Although I don’t also underrate Milan's performance, I just don’t think Real Madrid will allow it to happen; they will try their possible best to win the game.

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Quote from: Adiljutt156 on October 31, 2024, 01:42:02 PM

We are ready to watch this big match but still 4 days are remaining and we are waiting for that match impatiently . No doubt,Liverpool football team is best team of this tournament and all players of that team are experienced players which have capacity to win at any moment and only one player can win this match by his great performance but we should not underestimate the power of Leverkusen football team because they played well in this tournament and they stand on 6 position and they want to improve their performance and they will do that . And if we will see last match of both teams then we will collect information that both teams are winners of last match and we will tough competition in this match and audience is ready to watch this match.

Only two teams have won all three of their matches in the Champions League. Aston Villa and Liverpool are at the top of the table having won all three of their matches. Liverpool is a strong team. So they will try to continue this winning streak. Liverpool team has lost the top spot in the Premier League table in recent times. So right now, Arne Slott doesn't want to lose the top spot in the Champions League. Liverpool's only target will be to get 3 points.

Xabi Alonso's Leverkusen team is not weak. Last season we saw excellent performances from Leverkusen. However, Leverkusen's performance this season has been erratic. Still, this team is capable of playing well. I think Leverkusen will want to share the points in this match. If Leverkusen plays a defensive strategy, it will be very difficult for Liverpool to get 3 points.

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Quote from: Accardo on October 31, 2024, 10:19:18 AM

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Everything you said is completely agreed I don't see AC Milan beating Real Madrid in the next match and of course many are favoring Real Madrid in the Champions League even though lately Real Madrid looks in trouble but against Milan will be a little different no longer full of pressure, Paulo Fonseca's team is in poor form in the UCL and I don't think Milan can go further, I'm sure Real Madrid will give their all in the UCL this season to get at least one of the prestigious titles.

Milan is good, but their attacking force requires more effort, they'll need to strengthen it, and from their recent state it'll be tough to beat real Madrid. Although, Madrid would want to erase the shame they had, encountering Barca, yet their goals on Milan won't be much. I expect Ac Milan to advance further after signing Man U's Anthony to their attacking force. Until then, Madrid could be one step, always, ahead.

The game will be challenging, but I don't think Milla can beat Real Madrid in the UCL right now because AC Milla isn't in the same shape as Real Madrid. And Real Madrid will not like to lose at home. Milan must do very well before they can face Real Madrid in the UCL because they are the best in the Champions League and often dominate the competition each season. Is only Manchester City and Barcelona I'm thinking can stop Madrid from winning the UCL because they Manchester City and Barcelona have a better experienced coach that can analyse Real Madrid's strategy and get the chance to defeat Madrid, but he doesn't work every time because Ancelotti is also a good coach and he can change is statistics anytime if he since he didn't work well for him.

I'm very impressed with Barcelona's win against Real Madrid because if they hadn't used that offline strategy, Real Madrid would have won the match since the first half. Flick as do a better experience to achieve three points in Madrid's home, but I know Madrid will not allow Barcelona to defeat them both at home and away, and Ancelotti will do anything to win their next league game with Barcelona.

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Quote from: hahay on October 29, 2024, 11:58:59 AM

About the next match between Liverpool v Bayer Leverkusen, basically Bayer Leverkusen is not as good and strong as last season, so it is very reasonable if in fact Liverpool remains the favorite team to win. Because after all, based on the odds available at the moment it is also clear, that Liverpool are indeed very favored because after all, even though Liverpool have a new coach but Liverpool still managed to be consistent with their good performance and results so far this season both in the Premier League and also in the Champion League. In addition, if you consider head to head records, ofcourse Liverpool have better results.

But indeed, it will be very interesting too, because at least Xabi Alonso is a legendary Liverpool player in the past. In the next match, Xabi Alonso will return to Anfield but with the status of coach of the opposing team, it will make the match very emotional of course. Perhaps, with that factor will also make Bayer Leverkusen make their best efforts that might also make it difficult for Liverpool to win, this will be a very interesting match, of course.

We are ready to watch this big match but still 4 days are remaining and we are waiting for that match impatiently . No doubt,Liverpool football team is best team of this tournament and all players of that team are experienced players which have capacity to win at any moment and only one player can win this match by his great performance but we should not underestimate the power of Leverkusen football team because they played well in this tournament and they stand on 6 position and they want to improve their performance and they will do that . And if we will see last match of both teams then we will collect information that both teams are winners of last match and we will tough competition in this match and audience is ready to watch this match.

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The current squad should be more than enough for the Leverkusen game, but I completely agree with you on this point. I think Liverpool should sign a star striker for this reason. If they manage to transfer Osimhen, who is currently on loan at Galatasaray, in January, it would seriously increase their chances of winning both the Premier League and the Champions League.

I'm not sure if Osimhen could really bring so much potential to Liverpool winning the title should he be brought in. Osimhen is certainly a productive center forward, but winning titles is not just about goal productivity. Consistency in winning matches and getting more points compared to other teams is the main thing, so it's useless to have a productive center forward but the team is inconsistent with its performance.

This season Chelsea is quite good in terms of goal productivity, but I can't convince myself to say they are a title contender. Liverpool is certainly good with squad depth and player performance, but they are not as consistent as Manchester City. Bringing in a more productive center forward can increase your chances of winning the competition, but those chances ultimately depend only on overall performance.

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Quote from: Accardo on October 31, 2024, 10:19:18 AM

Milan is good, but their attacking force requires more effort, they'll need to strengthen it, and from their recent state it'll be tough to beat real Madrid. Although, Madrid would want to erase the shame they had, encountering Barca, yet their goals on Milan won't be much. I expect Ac Milan to advance further after signing Man U's Anthony to their attacking force. Until then, Madrid could be one step, always, ahead.

AC Milan is not a very bad team this season even though they’ve not been able to hold up to the top four of the table this season. Real Madrid also has been on great form and I think they’ll have to be very careful when playing against AC Milan despite their good form. Real Madrid is a team with a lot of prestige and quality record in the champions league and I don’t think their defeat in the La Liga against Barcelona will have any effect on this match, they’ll play their best and possibly have the higher tendency of winning this match.

Quote from: Obim34 on October 31, 2024, 11:41:59 AM

Personally, i would judge based on current form, Liverpool and Leverkusen must have had some historical stats before but that would not affect the outcome of the game, if one of the team's current performance doesn't looks too good then the other team should have the upper hand during the fixture. Liverpool are having the best of season, unlike Leverkusen who are trying much to cope but also not a guarantee that Liverpool are just going to get the win, might be tough on both ends but basically Liverpool should have the most of chances to have all points.

Liverpool are doing great likewise Bayern Leverkusen also. I don’t see any team been superior above the other team in this encounter. I feel it is going to be an even encounter in this game and both teams will have to play to their best if they eventually want to win the game. I foresee a lot of goals in this match from both teams because their attacking line ups are great and are also goal mongers. The champions league is very much interesting seeing two big teams playing against each other and this won’t be an exception of the entertainment once again form amongst the champions league games.

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Quote from: Accardo on October 31, 2024, 10:19:18 AM

Milan is good, but their attacking force requires more effort, they'll need to strengthen it, and from their recent state it'll be tough to beat real Madrid. Although, Madrid would want to erase the shame they had, encountering Barca, yet their goals on Milan won't be much. I expect Ac Milan to advance further after signing Man U's Anthony to their attacking force. Until then, Madrid could be one step, always, ahead.

AC Milan's performance so far in the Champions League has been very poor, they have only won once. So I don't expect much if Milan can beat Real Madrid at the Santiago Bernabéu, especially since Real Madrid just lost to their rivals Barcelona, of course they will use this match as their outlet.

However, this match will certainly be the main highlight because these two teams are European giants in their time with the most Champions League titles among other teams. Although this match is favored by Real Madrid, this match is certain to be a fierce battle between two clubs that have a long history in the Champions League competition. This match will promise a lot of drama and tension because both teams are trying hard to improve their position in the standings. My prediction is that this match will end with a 2-1 victory for Real Madrid.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on October 31, 2024, 01:05:02 PM

The current squad should be more than enough for the Leverkusen game, but I completely agree with you on this point. I think Liverpool should sign a star striker for this reason. If they manage to transfer Osimhen, who is currently on loan at Galatasaray, in January, it would seriously increase their chances of winning both the Premier League and the Champions League.

Osimhen would be a great signing, he’d be a great focal point of our attack. What do you think about Viktor Gyökeres from Sporting? His goals per game record is insane, I could see him as a star CF at Liverpool.

I think a signing or two in January could give us a real shot at winning the CL.

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Quote from: DanWalker on October 30, 2024, 05:52:10 PM

The performance of the Liverpool team is stable. However, the performance of Liverpool's forward players is not satisfactory.

The current squad should be more than enough for the Leverkusen game, but I completely agree with you on this point. I think Liverpool should sign a star striker for this reason. If they manage to transfer Osimhen, who is currently on loan at Galatasaray, in January, it would seriously increase their chances of winning both the Premier League and the Champions League.

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Quote from: Obim34 on October 31, 2024, 11:41:59 AM

Personally, i would judge based on current form, Liverpool and Leverkusen must have had some historical stats before but that would not affect the outcome of the game, if one of the team's current performance doesn't looks too good then the other team should have the upper hand during the fixture. Liverpool are having the best of season, unlike Leverkusen who are trying much to cope but also not a guarantee that Liverpool are just going to get the win, might be tough on both ends but basically Liverpool should have the most of chances to have all points.

Current performance should be the best criterion to predict the favourites of the game. Liverpool is having a good time in the Premiership this season. They have lost just one game in the league and have won all their games in the UEFA Champions League. The club had also qualified for the quarterfinals of the EFL Cup.

But Bayer Leverkusen has not been doing badly. They are not in top form like they were last season but they have managed to get fifteen points in eight matches. They have also lost just one game in the Bundesliga and have also qualified for the next phase of the German Cup. Bayer has also been impressive in the UCL where they have won two games and drawn in three games. I will conclude by saying that both teams are almost at the same level, so we should expect any outcome.

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Quote from: hahay on October 27, 2024, 02:09:05 PM

I think it's funny when you say it's an unreasonable defeat, I wonder, how or why is it unreasonable? Because after all, the fact is that Barcelona is superior in many aspects, such as Barcelona also plays at home and basically Barcelona also has a better coach. Although indeed, that Bayern Munich also looks good so far but yes, for me Bayern Munich is still not strong enough to compete against other top teams in the Champion League.

Thus, basically the winning result for Barcelona is a reasonable result because after all, I also bet for Barcelona to win without a doubt and not only that, because the match in El Clasico also I still choose Barcelona to win. Because obviously, at this moment I was really impressed with the success of Hansi Flick, so I don't doubt the quality of Barcelona this season.

There is definitely no valid reason why Bayern Munich should actually lose to Barcelona 4 to 0. If anything we actually expect them to win the match against Barcelona. I thought maybe they would draw the match. But I was never convinced that Barcelona was going to win the match against Bayern Munich. I think it is the same for a lot of people. But Barcelona truly has proved people wrong and obviously credit to Barcelona for that.

I think some teams are actually expecting Barcelona to perform badly. And I don't want to say that the teams are actually underestimating Barcelona. but I want to give proper credit to Barcelona. The kind of performance that they have shown definitely deserves a lot of credit. And we have to give credit where credit is due.

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The best performing team in the English Premier League is Liverpool while the best performing team in the Bundesliga last season is Leverkusen so it goes without saying that the competition will be much tougher when it comes to the best teams in two different leagues. Liverpool are currently performing very consistently and they have good quality players in every position and every player has a good understanding with each player, it is expected that Liverpool will do well in this important Champions League match. I would prefer to bet on Liverpool in this match although the result could be different.

Excuse me! You said best performing team in Premier League is Liverpool? Are you using September month to make conclusions or you are using October because only Manchester City are at the top of the table and hasn't lost any match and they are doing well and similar to Bundesliga, Leverkusen tried last season to be at the top but are week now. Even though Bayern isn't doing well here yet but it's not over yet, two win isn't to send them among to 10

As much as I think there is going to be some changes later because we still have like 5 matches round for every team, that should be 15 additional potential points every team can look for to get a better place before the knockout stage but I'm not sure Leverkusen is like that last season team. They don't have much power to repeat what they did last season. They were already tired right from when they loss to Atlanta in Europa final due to multiple reported injuries of players.

Liverpool are the best performing team in the English Premier League because they have only one point gap with Manchester City. But we can see that sometimes Manchester City is in the number one position of the Premier League and sometimes Liverpool is in the number one position of the Premier League, that is, it can be said that these two teams have dominated the Premier League so far. As every team in the English Premier League is strong, when Liverpool is performing well against these strong teams, it is expected that Liverpool will do well in the first and second round matches of the Champions League. Hope Liverpool will do well in Manchester City's match against Leverkusen and surely Liverpool will enter the field to win this match.

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I personally basically do not underestimate Bayer Leverkusen but yes, because their conditions this season are at least clearly different, then I personally will remain confident in Liverpool.

If you don't underestimate Leverkusen, you won't claim Leverkusen can be defeated by Liverpool in their home. Leverkusen may be no longer performing as strong as the last season. But we must admit Leverkusen still has a power to challenge any big team in UCL.

I don't think it's a claim, but based on the performance of both teams throughout this season, Liverpool is more favored than Leverkusen. Statistically, in the last few matches and the results achieved in the previous three games in the UCL, Liverpool's ability is above Leverkusen, especially since Arne Slot's team will play in front of their supporters. But everything that is seen outside the field can change 180° on the field, Leverkusen could provide a surprise because they really need a win to maintain their chances of qualifying for the knock-out round.

Based on head to head record in UCL between Liverpool and Leverkusen, Liverpool have won Leverkusen more. If such record should be used to predict this match, it means that Liverpool will win the match. But we cannot use past record as a guarantee for future results. However, Leverkusen showed some high level of quality over Liverpool in their last clash in Europa league last season, but I wouldn't use that to give Leverkusen credits that they are capable of winning Liverpool, because this is a new season, a different league and a different coach entirely.

Personally, i would judge based on current form, Liverpool and Leverkusen must have had some historical stats before but that would not affect the outcome of the game, if one of the team's current performance doesn't looks too good then the other team should have the upper hand during the fixture. Liverpool are having the best of season, unlike Leverkusen who are trying much to cope but also not a guarantee that Liverpool are just going to get the win, might be tough on both ends but basically Liverpool should have the most of chances to have all points.

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Quote from: Odohu on October 30, 2024, 06:59:08 PM

Liverpool is not doing badly in all competitions and tonight they just proved again that they mean business this season by winning Brighton 2-3 in their league encounter. I do not think that Bayern Leverkusen will be a difficult nut for them to crack because Leverkusen have not been doing so great this season. Besides, Liverpool have great champions league experience that you cannot compare to that of Leverkusen and if this is something that counts, I will give it to Liverpool to overpower them already.

It seems that Arne Slot is saving the energy of his main players in the EFL Cup match last night, he did not field his starting eleven against Brighton. The two teams will meet again in the Premier League, and it will be a real match at least for Brighton targeting full points to overtake the team above them. Well, will Arne Slot still not field his main starting eleven? Because, after that The Reds will host Bayer Leverkusen. Anyway, I have a different opinion from you. I think Leverkusen will give Liverpool a tough fight, Alonso also doesn't want to lose full points even though the match is held at Anfield. Liverpool is the same, they will target full points to secure their position in the standings. Moreover, the next opponent is Real Madrid. Then, Man City in the Premier League. In the coming weeks, Arne Slot will work hard so that his team continues to perform optimally. Because, their energy will be quite drained, especially in crucial matches. And that will be tiring, the worst case scenario is that several players have the potential to get injured.

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Quote from: Accardo on October 31, 2024, 10:19:18 AM

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Everything you said is completely agreed I don't see AC Milan beating Real Madrid in the next match and of course many are favoring Real Madrid in the Champions League even though lately Real Madrid looks in trouble but against Milan will be a little different no longer full of pressure, Paulo Fonseca's team is in poor form in the UCL and I don't think Milan can go further, I'm sure Real Madrid will give their all in the UCL this season to get at least one of the prestigious titles.

Milan is good, but their attacking force requires more effort, they'll need to strengthen it, and from their recent state it'll be tough to beat real Madrid. Although, Madrid would want to erase the shame they had, encountering Barca, yet their goals on Milan won't be much. I expect Ac Milan to advance further after signing Man U's Anthony to their attacking force. Until then, Madrid could be one step, always, ahead.

Madrid have a strong history in the UCL and although they have had some difficulties lately, but I don't think it makes them worth underestimating in the race for the UCL title, in the last few seasons we have seen them go down a few times but the ability to bounce back in every competition is unquestionable, Milan, on the other hand is the second team to have collected the most UCL trophies after Madrid, so we can indeed say that if the match will bring together two big teams that dominate the UCL so far, I think this season Milan has experienced a slump so they really need to strengthen their attacking and defensive line if they want to compete and win from Madrid in the match later.

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Quote from: tusandii on October 31, 2024, 12:06:00 AM

Everything you said is completely agreed I don't see AC Milan beating Real Madrid in the next match and of course many are favoring Real Madrid in the Champions League even though lately Real Madrid looks in trouble but against Milan will be a little different no longer full of pressure, Paulo Fonseca's team is in poor form in the UCL and I don't think Milan can go further, I'm sure Real Madrid will give their all in the UCL this season to get at least one of the prestigious titles.

Milan is good, but their attacking force requires more effort, they'll need to strengthen it, and from their recent state it'll be tough to beat real Madrid. Although, Madrid would want to erase the shame they had, encountering Barca, yet their goals on Milan won't be much. I expect Ac Milan to advance further after signing Man U's Anthony to their attacking force. Until then, Madrid could be one step, always, ahead.

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I personally basically do not underestimate Bayer Leverkusen but yes, because their conditions this season are at least clearly different, then I personally will remain confident in Liverpool.

If you don't underestimate Leverkusen, you won't claim Leverkusen can be defeated by Liverpool in their home. Leverkusen may be no longer performing as strong as the last season. But we must admit Leverkusen still has a power to challenge any big team in UCL.

I don't think it's a claim, but based on the performance of both teams throughout this season, Liverpool is more favored than Leverkusen. Statistically, in the last few matches and the results achieved in the previous three games in the UCL, Liverpool's ability is above Leverkusen, especially since Arne Slot's team will play in front of their supporters. But everything that is seen outside the field can change 180° on the field, Leverkusen could provide a surprise because they really need a win to maintain their chances of qualifying for the knock-out round.

Based on head to head record in UCL between Liverpool and Leverkusen, Liverpool have won Leverkusen more. If such record should be used to predict this match, it means that Liverpool will win the match. But we cannot use past record as a guarantee for future results. However, Leverkusen showed some high level of quality over Liverpool in their last clash in Europa league last season, but I wouldn't use that to give Leverkusen credits that they are capable of winning Liverpool, because this is a new season, a different league and a different coach entirely.

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Quote from: mamesso on October 31, 2024, 09:36:47 AM

I don't think it's a claim, but based on the performance of both teams throughout this season, Liverpool is more favored than Leverkusen. Statistically, in the last few matches and the results achieved in the previous three games in the UCL, Liverpool's ability is above Leverkusen, especially since Arne Slot's team will play in front of their supporters. But everything that is seen outside the field can change 180° on the field, Leverkusen could provide a surprise because they really need a win to maintain their chances of qualifying for the knock-out round.

You are right, this is a reasonable thing, one of the reasons is by looking at their game statistics this season. I think we all always use statistics as one way for us to analyze the match between the two clubs that will meet, because that is the easiest way we can see.
Even though they are in different leagues, statistical records in a domestic competition can still be used as a basis for our consideration to say something to a club or to the two clubs that will face each other. Moreover, when we look at their statistics in the Champions League, Liverpool also has an advantage compared to Leverkusen.

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Quote from: naira on October 31, 2024, 06:37:22 AM

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With Bayer Leverkusen's condition this season, then I think even if the match is played in Germany, I will still believe Liverpool will not be defeated by Bayer Leverkusen.

You have no strong reason to say this. Leverkusen may perform inconsistently but it doesn't mean they are quite easy to be defeated in UCL. You need to check their stats in UCL, Leverkusen is still unbeaten in UCL matches. So far, they got 2 wins and 1 draw. Even if Liverpool are very strong, it is not impossible that Leverkusen can beat them. I just assume the match will end with a draw result.

Once again I will be optimistic that this match can be a draw, Liverpool has a quality squad and that is no doubt but Leverkusen is also no less qualified. repeatedly showing something surprising performing well in the Bundesliga and the Champions League from 3 matches without losing means they are serious about undergoing a bigger competition. For now the chances of both teams are 50:50 and it will be difficult to determine who can come out as the winner.

I like your optimism, it's natural because of course both teams that will meet have their own advantages and UCL is a prestigious event, each team will take the match seriously or in the sense of prioritizing this big competition.
However, in this match I will be a little different, more precisely Liverpool is my favorite because they are very strong when playing at home so I am more confident they can win over Leverkusen but of course I will not deny if something unexpected happens at the end of the match. Let's see later.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on October 30, 2024, 06:53:49 PM

Quote from: hahay on October 30, 2024, 03:28:23 PM

I personally basically do not underestimate Bayer Leverkusen but yes, because their conditions this season are at least clearly different, then I personally will remain confident in Liverpool.

If you don't underestimate Leverkusen, you won't claim Leverkusen can be defeated by Liverpool in their home. Leverkusen may be no longer performing as strong as the last season. But we must admit Leverkusen still has a power to challenge any big team in UCL.

I don't think it's a claim, but based on the performance of both teams throughout this season, Liverpool is more favored than Leverkusen. Statistically, in the last few matches and the results achieved in the previous three games in the UCL, Liverpool's ability is above Leverkusen, especially since Arne Slot's team will play in front of their supporters. But everything that is seen outside the field can change 180° on the field, Leverkusen could provide a surprise because they really need a win to maintain their chances of qualifying for the knock-out round.

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