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Real Madrid has a bigger advantage, because they can play casually in the Spanish League and can rotate the main players in preparation for the Champions League final, while Liverpool are still struggling to catch up on points with Manchester City, the Final match is quite interesting for us to watch, because both This club has its own history in the Champions League, there are many possibilities for what will happen in the final

It looks like Liverpool will not be able to catch up points from Manchester City in the domestic league because the two teams they will face in the next match in the domestic league are teams that are not so strong so that both have a chance to win which will bring Manchester City to be champions in the domestic league season this and Liverpool will be under a bit of pressure for that and their focus will be a bit off in the Champions League.

Liverpool should now focus entirely on the Champions League final. Because whether Liverpool can win the Premier League title will depend on Manchester City's performance. If City lose a match, Liverpool will have a chance to win the title. Despite winning all Premier League matches, Liverpool is unlikely to win the title unless Manchester City loses points. And so Liverpool should try to win the Champions League title. Because if they can play well, they can win the title.

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Quote from: lizarder on May 12, 2022, 02:15:47 AM

Real Madrid has a bigger advantage, because they can play casually in the Spanish League and can rotate the main players in preparation for the Champions League final, while Liverpool are still struggling to catch up on points with Manchester City, the Final match is quite interesting for us to watch, because both This club has its own history in the Champions League, there are many possibilities for what will happen in the final

It looks like Liverpool will not be able to catch up points from Manchester City in the domestic league because the two teams they will face in the next match in the domestic league are teams that are not so strong so that both have a chance to win which will bring Manchester City to be champions in the domestic league season this and Liverpool will be under a bit of pressure for that and their focus will be a bit off in the Champions League.

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Quote from: Sterbens on May 11, 2022, 05:41:49 PM

The road to the Finals is still long and both teams will have plenty of movement in their respective Leagues to complete a few more games. Only Real Madrid managed to lock the victory. Liverpool are still busy fighting to minimize the difference with Manchester City as much as possible. There are still many possibilities that can happen ahead of the final later.

Real Madrid has a bigger advantage, because they can play casually in the Spanish League and can rotate the main players in preparation for the Champions League final, while Liverpool are still struggling to catch up on points with Manchester City, the Final match is quite interesting for us to watch, because both This club has its own history in the Champions League, there are many possibilities for what will happen in the final

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Quote from: Kocret02 on May 12, 2022, 01:11:23 AM

liverpool is a team that has a long history in the Champions League,

But not as it sounds, because Liverpool have only managed to reach 10 finals including this season since 1977. Liverpool have only won 6 titles or 1 more title than Barcelona and Liverpool have only managed to win 2 titles in the last 21 seasons. If we talk about the achievements of the team in the last 21 season then you will surely know that apart from Real Madrid as the top team that has won the title 6 times, then Barcelona is the second team with 4 titles.

If we talk about history, then AC Milan and Bayern Munich are still much better than Liverpool and Barcelona in terms of title race. This is a fact and I don't think we need to exaggerate and so on. This season, if Liverpool manage to win the title, it will be their seventh Champions League title and they will be able to match Milan's success in winning the title by the same amount.

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Quote from: mia_houston on May 10, 2022, 02:06:16 PM

I think it's really difficult for us to predict who will win in the final, because both teams (madrid and liverpool) have the big same winning mentality and we can't doubt so far, but in my opinion the comparison between Manchester City and Liverpool is not much different in all respects, Manchester City and Liverpool are both both have experience in winning in the domestic league, but for European competitions, Liverpool is clearly superior so far, moreover the winning mentality has indeed been a strong reason for the team to play and survive in European competitions so far.

liverpool is a team that has a long history in the Champions League, but when compared to Real Madrid, Liverpool is still far behind them, the champions league competition is not the same as the domestic league, because only those who have a winning mentality can survive here, Real Madrid has proven that against Manchester City, they were under great pressure, but finally managed to pass perfectly, while Liverpool do not have this history, so if you look at the experience and mentality of winning Real Madrid is more superior than Liverpool, but this is also not a guarantee that Real Madrid easily won the Champions League this season

Quote from: yayayo on May 10, 2022, 02:07:11 PM

I think you can compare the two clubs very well. Maybe not with the way of playing football, but with achieving results. City often takes much more risk. Liverpool are generally a bit more solid, although they were faltering against Villareal as well. City often plays beautiful football. Normally Liverpool will win the final, but Real Madrid are a dangerous team and should not be underestimated. Have already eliminated PSG and City, and also against Chelsea it was still good that they continued.

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That's what I mean, Real Madrid was under a lot of pressure before reaching the Champions League final, they were able to get rid of PSG and Manchester City, these two clubs have class players and quite a lot of flying time, while Liverpool didn't have a lot of pressure going into the Final. The mentality and composition of Real Madrid players is more advantageous than Liverpool, at least this is a guarantee for Real Madrid going forward

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Quote from: Fesatmas on May 11, 2022, 08:08:54 PM

I agree, I also hope that these two teams come out with the full squad without any of their main players being unavailable. Indeed, the road to the final is still long and both teams are still busy with their domestic leagues, especially for Liverpool who still hope that their main rivals Manchester City slip in their remaining matches, although that is a bit impossible. I also hope that the final game will be as we expected.

Real Madrid have prepared a special strategy to face Liverpool in the Champions League final, they have rotated their players in the Spanish League, thus losing to Atletico Madrid, while Liverpool are struggling to catch up with Manchester City in the Premier League, lastly Liverpool could only draw, both clubs kept players' fitness, Liverpool's burden is bigger, because they are facing big clubs and won the most Champions, even Real Madrid can rest players, because they have already secured one champion in spanish league

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The road to the Finals is still long and both teams will have plenty of movement in their respective Leagues to complete a few more games. Only Real Madrid managed to lock the victory. Liverpool are still busy fighting to minimize the difference with Manchester City as much as possible. There are still many possibilities that can happen ahead of the final later.

I think, Liverpool players are busy for what will bring favour to them at the end of the final because they don't want Real Madrid to disgrace them like the way they disgrace other teams in this season. I still stand for Liverpool to win this season champion league title because they had performed well from the beginning of this tournament till now which it will make many people to predict for their favour. Real Madrid players will try their possible best to draw the match, but it will be difficult for Liverpool to allow the match to end up draw than to use their tactics to defeat Real Madrid 2-1 for the favour of Liverpool.

I assumed the match could have ended in a penalty shootout. Both teams will probably score, but neither team will win in 2x45 minutes.
Liverpool fans will support Liverpool's victory. so are the Madrid fans. both of them will probably be focused on this final, but Liverpool has a lot of important games too. Liverpool's focus will be divided for each of their matches.

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The road to the Finals is still long and both teams will have plenty of movement in their respective Leagues to complete a few more games. Only Real Madrid managed to lock the victory. Liverpool are still busy fighting to minimize the difference with Manchester City as much as possible. There are still many possibilities that can happen ahead of the final later.

I think, Liverpool players are busy for what will bring favour to them at the end of the final because they don't want Real Madrid to disgrace them like the way they disgrace other teams in this season. I still stand for Liverpool to win this season champion league title because they had performed well from the beginning of this tournament till now which it will make many people to predict for their favour. Real Madrid players will try their possible best to draw the match, but it will be difficult for Liverpool to allow the match to end up draw than to use their tactics to defeat Real Madrid 2-1 for the favour of Liverpool.

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Quote from: Fesatmas on May 11, 2022, 08:08:54 PM

I agree, I also hope that these two teams come out with the full squad without any of their main players being unavailable. Indeed, the road to the final is still long and both teams are still busy with their domestic leagues, especially for Liverpool who still hope that their main rivals Manchester City slip in their remaining matches, although that is a bit impossible. I also hope that the final game will be as we expected.

Liverpool should not be deceived and Liverpool should not deceive itself, Manchester City is playing all the possible means to win the league, I mean premier league, see the goal margin it are having recently with its opponents, Manchester City is having just premier league to win, they have their full force there. If Liverpool is wise, he should not concentrate on what is not, it has been on the second position in premier league and nothing can change that, it would be good for Liverpool to focus on champions league and FA cup instead of than focusing on a league they can no more win again this season.

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The road to the Finals is still long and both teams will have plenty of movement in their respective Leagues to complete a few more games. Only Real Madrid managed to lock the victory. Liverpool are still busy fighting to minimize the difference with Manchester City as much as possible. There are still many possibilities that can happen ahead of the final later.

Not that long and it will come before you know it. Liverpool's last premier league match will be on May 22 so is one week preparation enough for the Finals? I think so but time will tell. Liverpool will most like field their full first team even on the last day and we can only hope that none of their key players get injured. We want both teams at their best.

I agree, I also hope that these two teams come out with the full squad without any of their main players being unavailable. Indeed, the road to the final is still long and both teams are still busy with their domestic leagues, especially for Liverpool who still hope that their main rivals Manchester City slip in their remaining matches, although that is a bit impossible. I also hope that the final game will be as we expected.

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The road to the Finals is still long and both teams will have plenty of movement in their respective Leagues to complete a few more games. Only Real Madrid managed to lock the victory. Liverpool are still busy fighting to minimize the difference with Manchester City as much as possible. There are still many possibilities that can happen ahead of the final later.

Not that long and it will come before you know it. Liverpool's last premier league match will be on May 22 so is one week preparation enough for the Finals? I think so but time will tell. Liverpool will most like field their full first team even on the last day and we can only hope that none of their key players get injured. We want both teams at their best.

This is what I'm worried about, Klopp is taking too high a risk for the quality of his players who actually have to perform at their maximum in the Final but are instead sent down to finish the match in the Premier League. Certainly a plus point for Ancelotti who is much more able to do the second alternative. I also hope that in the final there will be no Liverpool main players who cannot appear because Klopp is too pushy.

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The road to the Finals is still long and both teams will have plenty of movement in their respective Leagues to complete a few more games. Only Real Madrid managed to lock the victory. Liverpool are still busy fighting to minimize the difference with Manchester City as much as possible. There are still many possibilities that can happen ahead of the final later.

The Champions League final is still quite long, because it will be held at the end of this month. And both teams are still playing in their respective
leagues, the problem in this case is Real Madrid can benefit a little. Because Real Madrid has been confirmed to be the winner of the La Liga trophy,
Real Madrid will not field its main squad in the remaining La Liga matches. This was done so that their main players, especially Benzema, who became
the goal machine for Real Madrid, could avoid injury.

Agree, for now Real Madrid greatly benefited from the acquisition achieved in La Liga made them not need to worry about the preparation for the Champions League. Because it was later this month, Madrid will automatically try to play a backup squad for several matches in La Liga. While sharpening the talents of the players who had long been on the bench. Moreover, their opponents are now only 3 clubs that are relatively drastically decreased.

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Quote from: Sterbens on May 11, 2022, 05:41:49 PM

The road to the Finals is still long and both teams will have plenty of movement in their respective Leagues to complete a few more games. Only Real Madrid managed to lock the victory. Liverpool are still busy fighting to minimize the difference with Manchester City as much as possible. There are still many possibilities that can happen ahead of the final later.

Not that long and it will come before you know it. Liverpool's last premier league match will be on May 22 so is one week preparation enough for the Finals? I think so but time will tell. Liverpool will most like field their full first team even on the last day and we can only hope that none of their key players get injured. We want both teams at their best.

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Quote from: Sterbens on May 11, 2022, 05:41:49 PM

The road to the Finals is still long and both teams will have plenty of movement in their respective Leagues to complete a few more games. Only Real Madrid managed to lock the victory. Liverpool are still busy fighting to minimize the difference with Manchester City as much as possible. There are still many possibilities that can happen ahead of the final later.

It is true that the Champions League final is still long enough to be played, because it will be held at the end of this month. And both teams are still
playing in their respective leagues, the problem in this case is Real Madrid can benefit a little. Because Real Madrid has been confirmed to be
the winner of the La Liga trophy, Real Madrid will not field its main squad in the remaining La Liga matches. This was done so that their main
players, especially Benzema, who became the goal machine for Real Madrid, could avoid injury. Meanwhile Liverpool still have to catch up with
the points that Man City has, so Liverpool still have to play the main players they have. So there is still a possibility that Liverpool players will
get injured when they face Real Madrid in the Champions League final. But I hope both teams when they play in the final can field the best squad
they each have, to make the Champions League final match more interesting to watch.

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The road to the Finals is still long and both teams will have plenty of movement in their respective Leagues to complete a few more games. Only Real Madrid managed to lock the victory. Liverpool are still busy fighting to minimize the difference with Manchester City as much as possible. There are still many possibilities that can happen ahead of the final later.

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Quote from: KTChampions on May 11, 2022, 12:19:20 PM

It is clear that the quotes of the teams do not always correspond to the final result. I'm saying that these quotes are inadequate. These quotes are as if Liverpool were leading 1-0 in the first half, but the game hasn't even started yet Grin

As for the mentality, I would not say that Real and Liverpool are very different - they are two cup fighters who are used to fighting in knockout games.

This finals a bit weird though, not that it is any weirder than most finals but here it is a bit different kind of weird. Like for example last year everyone believed that City would finally win, and Chelsea was clear underdogs but they managed to get it, which is understandable sometimes underdogs wins and that's not rare. Or sometimes the favorites win, and that is not unexpected, in fact that is the common thing to see.

However, this time around we have Liverpool as favorites, but Real is not really underdogs neither, they are neither close to each other neither, not like we are seeing 2 equal teams, what we are seeing is a team that is favorites, and another team who should have been underdogs 4 matchups ago.

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Quote from: hd49728 on May 11, 2022, 05:09:33 PM

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Premier League, it lasts for months so if your team are weak, your weakness will be shown and your team will lose points that will result in bad position in a whole league campaign. Manchester City made mistakes, had some bad matches but generally they are amongst the best clubs.

It is very hard for weak team can win a month lasting domestic league. Years ago, Leicester City won Premier League but they were so strong in that season and big clubs had very bad seasons oppositely

Generally speaking, you are right if you want to know the team that has it all ready for a season you will see it in their performance and the premier league gives them that platform to thrive on when you see a team that is constantly losing their matches you will easily spot that from how their points keep dropping and their keep sliding behind in their points, Manchester City have kept the number one position on the league table for some times now and Liverpool have tried all their possible best to overthrow them but they remain unchecked out and I guess the 2020/2021 premier league season is going to end with Manchester City having the highest point.

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Quote from: borovichok on May 11, 2022, 04:54:59 PM

Pep has done very well as Manchester City manager he has made them stronger, brought them to two semi finals and one final unfortunately he has not won it but he has done well in the competition domestically he is the best

Because a league format and a cup or tournament format are different. You don't have to be the best team to win a tournament or a cup. Sometimes, you just need to play better than usual and your opponent play worse than what they usually do and if best, having support from referee mistakes or luckiness.

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with the way they play and style of entrainment he should be given respect, he has won lot of titles back to back at England and he has not done this with a striker, I think the club board appreciate his work, that's why they did not waste time to give him a world class striker (haaland) this time around to break the champions League curse.

Premier League, it lasts for months so if your team are weak, your weakness will be shown and your team will lose points that will result in bad position in a whole league campaign. Manchester City made mistakes, had some bad matches but generally they are amongst the best clubs.

It is very hard for weak team can win a month lasting domestic league. Years ago, Leicester City won Premier League but they were so strong in that season and big clubs had very bad seasons oppositely

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on May 11, 2022, 01:35:13 PM

I think many Manchester City fans are behind Pep Guardiola no matter if they win the UEFA Champion's League or not. Pep is the only manager that is criticised for not winning the champion's league. Sir Alex Ferguson won 2 in 30 years, many didn't talk about him getting sacked. Well, these points are understandable accurate but Fergie didn't spent over half a billion pounds to recruit players.

You already know why Pep is criticised and Fergie was not, so I don't even know why you bring up such a point. Pep has spend lots of money to buy th Champion's League trophy and each year he fails, people will obviously have to critizied him

To put in perspective, here is Manchester United's line up that played in the fina;l

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Playing XI: Edwin van der Sar, Wes Brown, Rio Ferdinand, Nemanja Vidic, Patrice Evra, Owen Hargreaves, Michael Carrick, Paul Scholes, Cristiano Ronaldo, Carlos Tevez, Wayne Rooney.
Substitutes: Tomasz Kuszcak, Mikael Silvestre, John O'Shea, Darren Fletcher, Anderson, Nani, Ryan Giggs.

source: https://www.republicworld.com/sports-news/football-news/manchester-united-2008-champions-league-win-where-are-players-now.html

How much did the cost Manchester United all together? Compare with how much Manchester City has spent in the current squad.

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Quote from: herurist on May 11, 2022, 03:50:45 PM

Quote from: Pokapoka124 on May 11, 2022, 01:35:13 PM

I think many Manchester City fans are behind Pep Guardiola no matter if they win the UEFA Champion's League or not. Pep is the only manager that is criticised for not winning the champion's league. Sir Alex Ferguson won 2 in 30 years, many didn't talk about him getting sacked. Well, these points are understandable accurate but Fergie didn't spent over half a billion pounds to recruit players.

In this case, I don't think it's appropriate to compare something that doesn't need to be compared.
but for Pep I still feel he deserves to be at City because regardless of what he can't force his will when the team he coaches loses mentally in the Champions League then there is no need to blame.
His performances at City have been outstanding and he still deserves to be, besides if he does end up leaving at least for now it's quite difficult to find a new coach to suit the players.

Pep has done very well as Manchester City manager he has made them stronger, brought them to two semi finals and one final unfortunately he has not won it but he has done well in the competition domestically he is the best,with the way they play and style of entrainment he should be given respect, he has won lot of titles back to back at England and he has not done this with a striker, I think the club board appreciate his work, that's why they did not waste time to give him a world class striker (haaland) this time around to break the champions League curse.

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