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Quote from: Maidak on May 10, 2022, 09:19:57 AM

Quote from: bitzizzix on May 10, 2022, 08:38:21 AM

We must remember that Real Madrid is listed as the club with the most Champions League trophies and has won 13 times, while Liverpool have won the Champions League 6 times.
But all of that is not a benchmark because every season there must be a change of players and coaches who don't necessarily bring victory back, but Real Madrid are only used to being champions and also a team to watch out for.
and but in this final I hope Liverpool can win because Real Madrid can only turn things around always in the second leg and in the final there will only be one game which will be a very interesting match to watch.

Man, this is too hard to even say anything. Real Madrid does not seem to be in a good shape right now but they are winning almost everything. and Liverpool also so really seems to be stronger compared to Real Madrid, and Liverpool also have shown good and confident performance in the Champions League and also in the English Premier League. so it is really hard to split both teams from each other.
I placed my bet for Real Madrid with 3+ odds,

That "not in good shape" has been said by many and yet they have amazing players and for some reason people still do not believe that. I mean what do they need to do in order to make people believe that they are actually in pretty good shape? They already won one I believe with the Spanish king cup or whatever, the game against Bilbao if I am not wrong, won the league, and at the finals of the UCL, and they managed to beat psg, chelsea and city to get here.

So, you are telling me that they are not in good shape? What makes you think that? I understand that their best player is about 35 years old, and they have modric, so everyone assumes that they are too old, but I do not see that to be fair.

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Quote from: Silberman on May 10, 2022, 02:28:49 PM

What happens is that Real Madrid seems to have fate on their side, in several matches their opponents were the favorites to move to the next round and yet they were able to move forward in some of the best matches we have seen during the tournament, so even if I think Liverpool is the favorite to win the Champions by the fans, we cannot discard a team like Real Madrid which seems to be destined to win the trophy regardless of what happens during the game.

I think the final of the champions league will not be determined by faith or luck, but sheer brilliance. The most brilliant team (the one who takes their goalscoring chances) and ends up with the highest goal in the tie wins the trophy. Football doesnt care if team a or team dominates possession. The one that scores more goals than the opponent is the one that wins. and i think Madrid will beat Liverpool again in the champions league final

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Quote from: Maidak on May 10, 2022, 09:19:57 AM

Man, this is too hard to even say anything. Real Madrid does not seem to be in a good shape right now but they are winning almost everything. and Liverpool also so really seems to be stronger compared to Real Madrid, and Liverpool also have shown good and confident performance in the Champions League and also in the English Premier League. so it is really hard to split both teams from each other.
I placed my bet for Real Madrid with 3+ odds,

What happens is that Real Madrid seems to have fate on their side, in several matches their opponents were the favorites to move to the next round and yet they were able to move forward in some of the best matches we have seen during the tournament, so even if I think Liverpool is the favorite to win the Champions by the fans, we cannot discard a team like Real Madrid which seems to be destined to win the trophy regardless of what happens during the game.

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Quote from: Kocret02 on May 10, 2022, 01:56:11 PM

Quote from: Zanab247 on May 10, 2022, 12:06:25 PM

I still stand for Real Madrid to win Liverpool to achieve UEFA champion league title. I think what happened between Real Madrid and Manchester city is about to happen to Liverpool because it hard me to loose my prediction in this tournament. Real Madrid will win Liverpool 1:0 to inform other teams that they are destined to win this season title in a surprise way.

You can't compare Liverpool with Manchester City, these two Clubs are very different, Manchester City did have the best game in the last two seasons, but in the Champions League they don't have a big experience and even the players that Manchester City have are not winning mentality, while Liverpool has a long history in the Champions League, this is the most difficult opponent in the final between the two clubs, for me it is difficult to predict who will come out as champion of the Champions League this season

I think you can compare the two clubs very well. Maybe not with the way of playing football, but with achieving results. City often takes much more risk. Liverpool are generally a bit more solid, although they were faltering against Villareal as well. City often plays beautiful football. Normally Liverpool will win the final, but Real Madrid are a dangerous team and should not be underestimated. Have already eliminated PSG and City, and also against Chelsea it was still good that they continued.

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Quote from: Kocret02 on May 10, 2022, 01:56:11 PM

Quote from: Zanab247 on May 10, 2022, 12:06:25 PM

I still stand for Real Madrid to win Liverpool to achieve UEFA champion league title. I think what happened between Real Madrid and Manchester city is about to happen to Liverpool because it hard me to loose my prediction in this tournament. Real Madrid will win Liverpool 1:0 to inform other teams that they are destined to win this season title in a surprise way.

You can't compare Liverpool with Manchester City, these two Clubs are very different, Manchester City did have the best game in the last two seasons, but in the Champions League they don't have a big experience and even the players that Manchester City have are not winning mentality, while Liverpool has a long history in the Champions League, this is the most difficult opponent in the final between the two clubs, for me it is difficult to predict who will come out as champion of the Champions League this season

I think it's really difficult for us to predict who will win in the final, because both teams (madrid and liverpool) have the big same winning mentality and we can't doubt so far, but in my opinion the comparison between Manchester City and Liverpool is not much different in all respects, Manchester City and Liverpool are both both have experience in winning in the domestic league, but for European competitions, Liverpool is clearly superior so far, moreover the winning mentality has indeed been a strong reason for the team to play and survive in European competitions so far.

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Quote from: Zanab247 on May 10, 2022, 12:06:25 PM

I still stand for Real Madrid to win Liverpool to achieve UEFA champion league title. I think what happened between Real Madrid and Manchester city is about to happen to Liverpool because it hard me to loose my prediction in this tournament. Real Madrid will win Liverpool 1:0 to inform other teams that they are destined to win this season title in a surprise way.

You can't compare Liverpool with Manchester City, these two Clubs are very different, Manchester City did have the best game in the last two seasons, but in the Champions League they don't have a big experience and even the players that Manchester City have are not winning mentality, while Liverpool has a long history in the Champions League, this is the most difficult opponent in the final between the two clubs, for me it is difficult to predict who will come out as champion of the Champions League this season

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Quote from: Bobrox on May 10, 2022, 05:31:21 AM

Several casino gambling keep favorite with Liverpool to be the winner on UEFA Champion League by giving higher odds for Real Madrid, based on Stake website looks higher odds giving for Real Madrid than Liverpool. Actually I saw Madrid have good journey than Liverpool first on knock out stage begin. Liverpool only have hard match against with Inter Milan before next match with mediocre team like Benfica and Villareal. But Real Madrid faced all top team from 16 round until semifinal, begin with PSG, Chelsea and Manchester City as top standing team on domestic league different with Liverpool just Inter Milan as heavy against only.
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First, here are more accurate quotes (same source):

Liverpool 1.55

Real Madrid 2.40

These are quotes on which team will become the champion, and not on the result of regular time.
Secondly, I must say that these are the same wacky quotes as for the confrontation between City and Real. I can agree that Liverpool is the favourite, but with such a huge lead? Nonsense, Real is underestimated and you can safely bet on it.

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Quote from: Zanab247 on May 10, 2022, 12:06:25 PM

I still stand for Real Madrid to win Liverpool to achieve UEFA champion league title. I think what happened between Real Madrid and Manchester city is about to happen to Liverpool because it hard me to loose my prediction in this tournament. Real Madrid will win Liverpool 1:0 to inform other teams that they are destined to win this season title in a surprise way.

I also want Real Madrid to beat Liverpool, not because Jurgen's men aren't experienced or better than them but for the fact that Real Madrid went through all these stress beating PSG, Chelsea and Manchester City. It is impossible to think they will lose to Liverpool in the final. Another advantage they have over Liverpool is they already won the Spanish La Liga and are resting key players, Benzema and others were rested even when the fixture was against Atletico Madrid. Real Madrid will be fresher coming into the final and that will be a major plus for them.

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I still stand for Real Madrid to win Liverpool to achieve UEFA champion league title. I think what happened between Real Madrid and Manchester city is about to happen to Liverpool because it hard me to loose my prediction in this tournament. Real Madrid will win Liverpool 1:0 to inform other teams that they are destined to win this season title in a surprise way.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on May 10, 2022, 08:49:27 AM

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If we follow the development of the two teams, it will help us to know more or less which players can play or not accumulate yellow cards in the final, making it easier for us to analyze who will win even though anything can happen when the match takes place on the field. In general, I analyze if the Reds will be champions or winners in the final.

However, Madrid currently has the most Champions League trophies. we can't deny it, even with a different squad but Madrid has a winning mentality from any club.
but I support Liverpool to stop Madrid's momentum to marry the La Liga trophy and the Champions League. Liverpool has a chance to win. Salah and Mane can be more dangerous than Benzema.

I also believe that Liverpool can be a lot more dangerous compared to Real Madrid. in my opinion Liverpool is actually a better team compared to Real Madrid but what everyone is worried about is the last stage of every match Real Madrid always seems to make a comeback and win the match. this has been the case in the past few matches in Champions League and I am not sure that the same thing is going to work against Liverpool. Obviously, Liverpool looks dangerous in almost every aspect compared to Real Madrid.

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Quote from: Maidak on May 10, 2022, 09:19:57 AM

Man, this is too hard to even say anything. Real Madrid does not seem to be in a good shape right now but they are winning almost everything. and Liverpool also so really seems to be stronger compared to Real Madrid, and Liverpool also have shown good and confident performance in the Champions League and also in the English Premier League. so it is really hard to split both teams from each other.
I placed my bet for Real Madrid with 3+ odds,

What do you mean by not very good here? I think Madrid is more prepared with a less crowded schedule and their focus is only on the Champions League, despite their defeat this week, actually this is a sign that Madrid are ready. look at the squad that played against Atletico, all of them were almost their substitutes and it's proof that they want to freshen up their players to prepare for Liverpool.
My attacking qualities do recognize Liverpool but are they still going to focus on the current hectic schedule

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on May 10, 2022, 08:49:27 AM

Quote from: tarable on May 10, 2022, 08:27:19 AM

If we follow the development of the two teams, it will help us to know more or less which players can play or not accumulate yellow cards in the final, making it easier for us to analyze who will win even though anything can happen when the match takes place on the field. In general, I analyze if the Reds will be champions or winners in the final.

However, Madrid currently has the most Champions League trophies. we can't deny it, even with a different squad but Madrid has a winning mentality from any club.
but I support Liverpool to stop Madrid's momentum to marry the La Liga trophy and the Champions League. Liverpool has a chance to win. Salah and Mane can be more dangerous than Benzema.

Real Madrid is more experienced than Liverpool on platforms like the Champions League. Liverpool are still struggling to win both the Premier League and the Champions League. Real Madrid, on the other hand, are now La Liga champions. Now their only goal is the Champions League title. And the players are only focused on winning the Champions League. For this reason, Real Madrid seems to be my favorite.

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Quote from: bitzizzix on May 10, 2022, 08:38:21 AM

Quote from: Maidak on May 10, 2022, 08:17:17 AM

How can anyone say that Real Madrid is a weak club after they have reached the Champions League final and that also by beating Manchester City which is ahead in the English Premier League than Liverpool?

I really do find it quite funny to hear. year it is going to be a hell of a final between both these teams. I believe both teams are really strong and both teams are going to score in the final but looking at the defense of Real Madrid Liverpool can be given a little more chances but I think after all it is going to be a 50-50.

We must remember that Real Madrid is listed as the club with the most Champions League trophies and has won 13 times, while Liverpool have won the Champions League 6 times.
But all of that is not a benchmark because every season there must be a change of players and coaches who don't necessarily bring victory back, but Real Madrid are only used to being champions and also a team to watch out for.
and but in this final I hope Liverpool can win because Real Madrid can only turn things around always in the second leg and in the final there will only be one game which will be a very interesting match to watch.

Man, this is too hard to even say anything. Real Madrid does not seem to be in a good shape right now but they are winning almost everything. and Liverpool also so really seems to be stronger compared to Real Madrid, and Liverpool also have shown good and confident performance in the Champions League and also in the English Premier League. so it is really hard to split both teams from each other.
I placed my bet for Real Madrid with 3+ odds,

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Quote from: tarable on May 10, 2022, 08:27:19 AM

If we follow the development of the two teams, it will help us to know more or less which players can play or not accumulate yellow cards in the final, making it easier for us to analyze who will win even though anything can happen when the match takes place on the field. In general, I analyze if the Reds will be champions or winners in the final.

However, Madrid currently has the most Champions League trophies. we can't deny it, even with a different squad but Madrid has a winning mentality from any club.
but I support Liverpool to stop Madrid's momentum to marry the La Liga trophy and the Champions League. Liverpool has a chance to win. Salah and Mane can be more dangerous than Benzema.

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Quote from: Maidak on May 10, 2022, 08:17:17 AM

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Quote from: Tellek Garing on May 09, 2022, 04:08:31 PM

Real Madrid may not be a weak club for Liverpool to beat easily but the fact still remains that most fans are more confident in Liverpool than seeing Manchester City up against real Madrid that could have been a straight winning for real Madrid.

Dude, no one states Real Madrid is a weak club. Only people who don't understand football claiming Real Madrid as a weak club. We also cannot claim Liverpool is stronger than Real Madrid as Liverpool is only in 2nd place in EPL League, while Real Madrid is in 1st place in La Liga. Although these are different leagues, but the position means a lot, indicating how strong the club is. Eliminated Man City is a strong proof that Real Madrid isn't a weak club. Don't forget, Real Madrid is also the most winners in UCL. So, it is funny if someone states Real Madrid is a weak club Cheesy

Everything in this world is relative and the same club can be stronger than one club, but weaker than another club Wink

There are many clubs with a rich history, but also experiencing serious problems now and a rich winning history in the past is by no means a guarantee that the club is strong right now. Although it will also be funny for me to hear that Real Madrid is a weak club. Weaker than Liverpool is one thing, but it is precisely that a weak club is quite another and very, very far from the truth. As we already know, the fact that Real Madrid occupies the first place in La Liga did not prevent the club from losing to Atletico Madrid, which occupies the fourth place, so nothing prevents it from also losing to Liverpool, which is higher in its championship and takes second place Grin

How can anyone say that Real Madrid is a weak club after they have reached the Champions League final and that also by beating Manchester City which is ahead in the English Premier League than Liverpool?

I really do find it quite funny to hear. year it is going to be a hell of a final between both these teams. I believe both teams are really strong and both teams are going to score in the final but looking at the defense of Real Madrid Liverpool can be given a little more chances but I think after all it is going to be a 50-50.

We must remember that Real Madrid is listed as the club with the most Champions League trophies and has won 13 times, while Liverpool have won the Champions League 6 times.
But all of that is not a benchmark because every season there must be a change of players and coaches who don't necessarily bring victory back, but Real Madrid are only used to being champions and also a team to watch out for.
and but in this final I hope Liverpool can win because Real Madrid can only turn things around always in the second leg and in the final there will only be one game which will be a very interesting match to watch.

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Manchester City need a few more years to reach its goal of reaching the final. Their run in Europe biggest tournament has been good under coach Pep Guardiola, but they have been unlucky so far. The Liverpool and Real Madrid finals will be interesting to look forward to as the match is full of drama that will happen in Paris and it will be Mohamed Salah second final against Real Madrid.

I also agree with what you are saying because there are a lot of good players in both teams now and they will all go down to play in the Champions League final, so the Champions League final this time will be a very exciting match to watch because in general the match between Liverpool and Real Madrid is very difficult to predict who will win.

If we follow the development of the two teams, it will help us to know more or less which players can play or not accumulate yellow cards in the final, making it easier for us to analyze who will win even though anything can happen when the match takes place on the field. In general, I analyze if the Reds will be champions or winners in the final.

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Quote from: AndySt on May 09, 2022, 06:19:32 PM

Quote from: kawetsriyanto on May 09, 2022, 06:04:40 PM

Quote from: Tellek Garing on May 09, 2022, 04:08:31 PM

Real Madrid may not be a weak club for Liverpool to beat easily but the fact still remains that most fans are more confident in Liverpool than seeing Manchester City up against real Madrid that could have been a straight winning for real Madrid.

Dude, no one states Real Madrid is a weak club. Only people who don't understand football claiming Real Madrid as a weak club. We also cannot claim Liverpool is stronger than Real Madrid as Liverpool is only in 2nd place in EPL League, while Real Madrid is in 1st place in La Liga. Although these are different leagues, but the position means a lot, indicating how strong the club is. Eliminated Man City is a strong proof that Real Madrid isn't a weak club. Don't forget, Real Madrid is also the most winners in UCL. So, it is funny if someone states Real Madrid is a weak club Cheesy

Everything in this world is relative and the same club can be stronger than one club, but weaker than another club Wink

There are many clubs with a rich history, but also experiencing serious problems now and a rich winning history in the past is by no means a guarantee that the club is strong right now. Although it will also be funny for me to hear that Real Madrid is a weak club. Weaker than Liverpool is one thing, but it is precisely that a weak club is quite another and very, very far from the truth. As we already know, the fact that Real Madrid occupies the first place in La Liga did not prevent the club from losing to Atletico Madrid, which occupies the fourth place, so nothing prevents it from also losing to Liverpool, which is higher in its championship and takes second place Grin

How can anyone say that Real Madrid is a weak club after they have reached the Champions League final and that also by beating Manchester City which is ahead in the English Premier League than Liverpool?

I really do find it quite funny to hear. year it is going to be a hell of a final between both these teams. I believe both teams are really strong and both teams are going to score in the final but looking at the defense of Real Madrid Liverpool can be given a little more chances but I think after all it is going to be a 50-50.

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Liverpool will surprise Real Madrid in the final even though Real Madrid are more favored as their history in the UEFA Champions League stands out more than Liverpool.
Mohamed Salah in Liverpool's run in the UCL has not looked like Karim Benzema's role for Real Madrid. In this year's final, I believe Mo. Salah will destroy Carlo Ancelotti's dream in adding to Real Madrid's UCL trophy cabinet.

I also support Liverpool to destroy Madrid in the final. although in the history of their meeting in the Champions League final it was not so good for Liverpool. but I'm sure this time Liverpool will perform better.
Madrid will not celebrate parties anymore.

The expectations of Liverpool supporters were like that when the final took place in Paris, but it was not an easy job for Liverpool even though I personally want the same thing for Liverpool, namely being able to beat Real Madrid so that Liverpool as an English team can make new history in the UEFA Champions League in 2022.

I think everyone agrees that Liverpool deserves to be champions of the Champions League this season, because if Real Madrid wins again it's really not good anymore because Real Madrid has so many Champions League titles. this is actually very good for Liverpool to get the champion title, and it becomes even more competitive for the Champions league.
I think in terms of the game between the two teams, Liverpool deserve to be ahead but in football anything can happen. I hope Liverpool can beat Real Madrid, so they can make a new history for the English league team.

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Indeed, it is quite surprising when Liverpool looks more favored when viewed at the currently available odds. While this is a final match and also played at a neutral venue, it might be better if the odds had the same leading number and only the number after the comma that made the difference but these are distinctly different odds. After seeing Liverpool's match yesterday in the EPL against Tottenham, I think Liverpool can still be beaten by Madrid as the team with the most UCL titles. Previously, I was very confident with Liverpool but this time I doubted it a little, because Real Madrid are really unpredictable because they can surprise at the last minute of the match, which not all teams have a winning mentality like Real Madrid.

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Quote from: babo on May 10, 2022, 06:43:50 AM

in theory Liverpool are favorites
but Real Madrid can rest their players more, because in the league they have already won, we can say

so I see it as an advantage, rested players perform better
then having won a game like this will have brought his morale to the stars

I think Real Madrid this season is a specialized comeback club from their performance losing the first leg against PSG and Manchester City, but they can beat those clubs on the second leg and won over the aggregate. However Liverpool have an excellent clean record unlike Real Madrid, even they're won against low rank clubs. I don't know why Villarreal can beat Juventus and Bayern Munich, but they're very struggling when they faced Liverpool.

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