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The final result or score is more important than statistics, Liverpool has all the statistics in the match took all the possessions, shot on goal, off target, corners, fouls etc however all these don't count with the final score, Real Madrid won the match, there are some matches which involves playing badly and win than to play excellently well and lose, Real Madrid defended well and converted their few goals scoring chances, unfortunately Liverpool all goals scoring chances was saved by Courtois who was very brilliant, oustanding and was capped as the man of the match.
That true not really important with how dominance with ball possession, shoot on goals until with how many time with attempt have by Liverpool but actually the final score is make Real Madrid become the champion. Only made with one shot on goals and success become one goals have give Champion league trophy for Real Madrid and I think Liverpool need how to play effective like  Real Madrid, when attacking success created one goal and I think just have three player effective only how to destroy with Liverpool defender. I don't see special with Van Dijk on champion league final.
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as I said, Real Madrid won
my assumptions were correct and although Liverpool were favorites on paper (much stronger) they were not mentally projected to win
He was tired
physically, mentally

while Real Madrid were well rested (thanks to the turnover) happy (Spanish league) and mentally ready to win
As Liverpool came out with 100% in good form, it was evident by the dominance of the game they showed. Even during the game Real Madrid are under pressure. But Real Madrid are disciplined in implementing the defensive strategy they run plus their goalkeeper is on fire. The rest of the goals from Real Madrid were created by the mistakes of Liverpool defenders who did not escort a Vinicius.
Small mistakes can kill everything, Liverpool's defense fails to stem the attacks of Real Madrid, Vinicius Junior can easily break into Liverpool's goal.
Liverpool had tried to give their best in the final, Real Madrid looked overwhelmed by the attacks launched by Liverpool players. A disciplined defense and supported by the good performances of Thibaut Courtois, all the efforts of the Liverpool players did not bear fruit. Ancelotti strategy was able to frustrate Jurgen Klopp's troops, until they failed to get the trophy that the Anfield public really wanted.
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I read somewhere that Spanish clubs have played in 17 Champions League/Europa League finals against foreign opposition in the last 20 years, winning ALL of them.
It sounded so insane that I went to check and if I did not make a mistake checking - it turns out to be true.

Their last losses in European finals were in 2001, when Liverpool won against Alaves in Uefa Cup and Bayern won against Valencia in a CL final.
I haven't looked at the statistics for wins against clubs not from Spain, but in the last 20 years Spanish clubs have won 10 times, of which Real Madrid have won 6 times. In total Real Madrid have played in 17 Champions League finals 14 of which they have won. That is a crazy statistic. Real Madrid is the most titled club in Europe and the leader of the Champions League.
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as I said, Real Madrid won
my assumptions were correct and although Liverpool were favorites on paper (much stronger) they were not mentally projected to win
He was tired
physically, mentally

while Real Madrid were well rested (thanks to the turnover) happy (Spanish league) and mentally ready to win
As Liverpool came out with 100% in good form, it was evident by the dominance of the game they showed. Even during the game Real Madrid are under pressure. But Real Madrid are disciplined in implementing the defensive strategy they run plus their goalkeeper is on fire. The rest of the goals from Real Madrid were created by the mistakes of Liverpool defenders who did not escort a Vinicius.
physically these two teams have no problems, both entered the game with 100% of their strength, and it's true that it was proven when Liverpool were able to control the game quite well but it's a pity that Real Madrid is a team that is difficult to beat so even though Liverpool continue to played attacking but Real Madrid kept their cool and managed to score their winning goal on the counter-attack.

but despite all that, Real Madrid really deserve to be champions, they have beaten 3 top EPL clubs to reach their 14th UCL trophy.
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as I said, Real Madrid won
my assumptions were correct and although Liverpool were favorites on paper (much stronger) they were not mentally projected to win
He was tired
physically, mentally

while Real Madrid were well rested (thanks to the turnover) happy (Spanish league) and mentally ready to win
As Liverpool came out with 100% in good form, it was evident by the dominance of the game they showed. Even during the game Real Madrid are under pressure. But Real Madrid are disciplined in implementing the defensive strategy they run plus their goalkeeper is on fire. The rest of the goals from Real Madrid were created by the mistakes of Liverpool defenders who did not escort a Vinicius.
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as I said, Real Madrid won
my assumptions were correct and although Liverpool were favorites on paper (much stronger) they were not mentally projected to win
He was tired
physically, mentally

while Real Madrid were well rested (thanks to the turnover) happy (Spanish league) and mentally ready to win
Liverpool has prepared the team 100% for the final match, statistics show Liverpool are able to control the match. One Real Madrid goal in the second half made Liverpool's struggle even more difficult, until the match ended there was no additional goal from Real Madrid and a reply goal from Liverpool. Liverpool failed again in the UCL final, Liverpool's revenge mission did not go perfectly, in fact Jurgen Klopp team had to lose to Real Madrid thanks to a goal from Vinicius Junior.
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In this case, there is indeed some controversy there, especially about the handball debate for Madrid and Benzema's Offside goal there and it is certain that both sides of the fans will not accept this lightly.
But apart from that now something like this was pointless. Madrid are now champions and that is a fact. regardless of the referee's leadership is fair or not everyone has their own judgment
this is really a hot issue from yesterday and there are still a lot of fans of both teams having a great debate on social media about this. btw, it's no longer important to bring this issue to the surface because Madrid have been confirmed as champions and Liverpool will have to try hard next season again.
Even today I checked social media and it's still buzzing about this and various speculations have emerged from various parties which have made this a fan debate that never ends.

On the other hand I agree with you, it's over now there's no point in arguing because the result is also immutable. They now don't have time for things like this and all they have to do is refocus on the season to come
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Real Madrid has not always been like this. There were times when Real Madrid was not a very rich club and neither a very strong one. But they have reached there with some good decisions and some very good performance.

Oh no? When?

I don't know if you mean 1902, which is when it was founded, but at that time no club was rich. Football didn't move as much money as it does today.

If we take into account that it is the biggest club in the capital of Spain, where all the political and financial power is concentrated, and that there was a dictator in Spain between 1939 and 1975 whose favourite club was Real Madrid, either you support what you say with some data or I will believe that you have said the first nonsense that has crossed your mind about it.


Perhaps what is meant is that Real Madrid is not richer than Paris Saint Germain. Lol
If we talk about Real Madrid, of course we will see as one of the rich teams with a number of flashy achievements that they have recorded, in all the competitions they participate in this team is one of the most successful teams on the blue continent. This proves that they are a strong team which the opinion of the op argues against.
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as I said, Real Madrid won
my assumptions were correct and although Liverpool were favorites on paper (much stronger) they were not mentally projected to win
He was tired
physically, mentally

while Real Madrid were well rested (thanks to the turnover) happy (Spanish league) and mentally ready to win
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Real Madrid has not always been like this. There were times when Real Madrid was not a very rich club and neither a very strong one. But they have reached there with some good decisions and some very good performance.

Oh no? When?

I don't know if you mean 1902, which is when it was founded, but at that time no club was rich. Football didn't move as much money as it does today.

If we take into account that it is the biggest club in the capital of Spain, where all the political and financial power is concentrated, and that there was a dictator in Spain between 1939 and 1975 whose favourite club was Real Madrid, either you support what you say with some data or I will believe that you have said the first nonsense that has crossed your mind about it.



As far as I know from the history of football, the golden age for Real was between 1955 and 1960 when Real won five European titles in a row, with Puskas and other football stars of that time.
The support of politics and the state at that time was certainly welcome when there really wasn’t as much money and sponsors in football as there are today.
Barcelona started winning European titles much later, after the fall of fascism in Spain, for the last 30 years, which is certainly no coincidence.
Thanks to the titles from the fifties and history, Real has gained the status of a royal club and that has never changed.
Based on a great tradition and history, it is always easier to bring in great players.
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I read somewhere that Spanish clubs have played in 17 Champions League/Europa League finals against foreign opposition in the last 20 years, winning ALL of them.
It sounded so insane that I went to check and if I did not make a mistake checking - it turns out to be true.

Their last losses in European finals were in 2001, when Liverpool won against Alaves in Uefa Cup and Bayern won against Valencia in a CL final.
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I do not think he is correct, Real Madrid was established in 1902 with the name Madrid Football Club, in 1929, Real Madrid is one of the members of La Liga and one of the clubs that started the league. Among many other clubs in La Liga, Real Madrid has never relegated before. I am wondering how a club that has not been relegated before in La Liga with 14 won Champions League gotten broke in the past. But maybe he means that a time when Real Madrid was not rich, but when also other clubs in Europe were also not rich, if that is what he is talking about. Real Madrid has always been the most successful club in La Liga.

That's why I say, there was a time when Real Madrid wasn't rich but because no club was rich, because football didn't move the money it does now. But I don't think that's what he meant because he says it wasn't a strong one either. Well, in 121 years of history, it is normal that it has had better and worse times but it is the club with the most titles in Spain and in the world, so it can't have nad long periods of weakness.

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Real Madrid has not always been like this. There were times when Real Madrid was not a very rich club and neither a very strong one. But they have reached there with some good decisions and some very good performance.

Oh no? When?

I don't know if you mean 1902, which is when it was founded, but at that time no club was rich. Football didn't move as much money as it does today.

If we take into account that it is the biggest club in the capital of Spain, where all the political and financial power is concentrated, and that there was a dictator in Spain between 1939 and 1975 whose favourite club was Real Madrid, either you support what you say with some data or I will believe that you have said the first nonsense that has crossed your mind about it.
He is not correct, Real Madrid was established in 1902 with the name Madrid Football Club. In 1929, Real Madrid was one of the members of La Liga and one of the clubs that started the league. Among two other clubs in La Liga, Real Madrid has never relegated before in La Liga. I am wondering how a club that has not been relegated before in La Liga with 14 won Champions League gotten broke in the past. But maybe he means that a time when Real Madrid was not rich but when also other clubs in Europe were also not rich, maybe that is what he is talking about. Real Madrid has always been one of the most successful clubs in La Liga.
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Real Madrid has not always been like this. There were times when Real Madrid was not a very rich club and neither a very strong one. But they have reached there with some good decisions and some very good performance.

Oh no? When?

I don't know if you mean 1902, which is when it was founded, but at that time no club was rich. Football didn't move as much money as it does today.

If we take into account that it is the biggest club in the capital of Spain, where all the political and financial power is concentrated, and that there was a dictator in Spain between 1939 and 1975 whose favourite club was Real Madrid, either you support what you say with some data or I will believe that you have said the first nonsense that has crossed your mind about it.

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Liverpool played better football this year, I wish they were champions. But Real Madrid's goalkeeper played with a very good performance. Courtois was the most important and critical player in winning this match Smiley
It doesn't matter how many positions you have or how many shots you take, the important thing is to score. Liverpool failed to score and therefore did not become champions.

Statistical data doesn't make any sense, even for the final match. Even if you shoot 100 shots, it doesn't matter if you can't score. We saw that in this final match as well.  Real Madrid scored with few chances and protected it with good defense. They became champions because they were able to keep the score, it's that simple.
Statistics are just statistics, because in football the most productive team will be the winner. Real Madrid is a team that plays effective and productive football. They didn't have too many chances but they also didn't waste chances if they got them. One goal was enough to make Liverpool go home disappointed.
The final result or score is more important than statistics, Liverpool has all the statistics in the match took all the possessions, shot on goal, off target, corners, fouls etc however all these don't count with the final score, Real Madrid won the match, there are some matches which involves playing badly and win than to play excellently well and lose, Real Madrid defended well and converted their few goals scoring chances, unfortunately Liverpool all goals scoring chances was saved by Courtois who was very brilliant, oustanding and was capped as the man of the match.
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I'm very contented with seeing the team I was favouring for the title winning it at the end.  Grin  I was worried about Real Madrid after I watched that quite poor performance against Liverpool. Honestly I expected to see Liverpool finding more goal opportunities than them in this match but I believe that this was too much. Real Madrid should be grateful for Vinicius to score that goal otherwise they would have been under a bigger threat. I made a bet on Real Madrid to win the title and it wasn't easy to watch this match for me.  Grin  I'm happy for especially Benzema as he deserved this title by his awesome effort until this round.

Real Madrid was the more deserving team to win the Champions League in my opinion but if I am being honest I think Liverpool had the better performance in the finals. The problem is Liverpool was not good enough when it came to the finishing and they did not do well in the final third of the pitch.

Real Madrid really defended well I have to say and Liverpool got a lot of corner kicks but almost each of them was headed away by the Real Madrid defense. I am actually happy for Karim Benzema as he could lift the Champions League trophy but I am also sad at the same time for Muhammad Salah.
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Real Madrid had a very poor performance generally but they still used their chances in a very effective way. They did the best thing they do always. They scored the goal by a very quick counter-attack. This was the thing I was hoping for to happen because it would make the game more enjoyable. I was expecting to see Liverpool playing their usual dominant game after that goal in the end. I'm afraid Liverpool weren't that much impressive still. They had some important chances and Courtois didn't let them score. Congratulations to Real Madrid and their fans!

I think Liverpool looked to get caught off Guard because the goal was built up by Dani Carvajal. And him being a right-back I think Liverpool probably thought they are not in too much danger. But it was a great build-up and even though it looks like the goal was a little bit of an accident I think it was done well by Real Madrid. Obviously not a very convincing and dominating performance but it doesn't matter if it gets the job done.
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And there are teams from all around the world and not only from the English Premier League.

Are you kidding. The Champions League is only followed by clubs that compete on the European continent.
The UEFA Champions League is a club football competition between the Union of European Football Associations, which is participated by Europe's highest division clubs. The Champions League is the most prestigious tournament in the world and the most prestigious club competition in European football because it is followed by big clubs.
The Asian continent has the AFC Champions League, while in South America there is also the highest competition between clubs known as the Copa Libertadores.

So it would be a big mistake to say there are teams from all over the world.

Surprised? What do you expect from someone who promotes a known scam site and has not been able to earn a single fucking merit in 5 years on the forum? What he does is write garbage so that the shitty company that hired him will pay him.

Someone decent, if you don't know what the UEFA Champions League is, at least before writing such bullshit, you could google it and see that it is made up of 35 European countries. See for example:

https://www.transfermarkt.com/uefa-champions-league/nationenwertung/pokalwettbewerb/CL
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And there are teams from all around the world and not only from the English Premier League.

Are you kidding. The Champions League is only followed by clubs that compete on the European continent.
The UEFA Champions League is a club football competition between the Union of European Football Associations, which is participated by Europe's highest division clubs. The Champions League is the most prestigious tournament in the world and the most prestigious club competition in European football because it is followed by big clubs.
The Asian continent has the AFC Champions League, while in South America there is also the highest competition between clubs known as the Copa Libertadores.

So it would be a big mistake to say there are teams from all over the world.

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I still can't believe that Zidane has 3 to be fair Cheesy. Ancelotti is great, but if Zidane kept going, he would have maybe another title, or maybe he wouldn't, he could have moved to another team and maybe won one. Now that PSG kept Mbappe, I really really really want to see Zidane manages PSG, and do it for many years.

I know for sure that they would be good enough to listen to Zidane, someone who won it 3 times the moment he started managing a team, and became one of the best ever. By comparison SIR! alexferguson has only 2, that's how great Zidane is. Ancelotti is of course a marvelous manager, but he has been managing for so many years, I am sure that that record will be broken in the next 10 years or so.

Zidane would have found very good success with PSG in my opinion because he would have had the perfect squad for him and that would also suit him with the attacking mindset that he has. It would have been really great to see PSG playing under the authority of Zidane.

Ancelotti is also a great coach and it has been proven this year with Real Madrid. Real Madrid had very good success in both La Liga and also Champions League under the authority of Carlo Ancelotti. And Real Madrid also got this success without having a too good squad in my opinion.
Has there been any official news about Zidane being willing to coach PSG next season? After PSG extended Mbappe's contract with the privileges given, I personally don't believe Zidane will be willing to coach PSG. Also, I still haven't found any news about which team Zidane has chosen to coach and about Ancelotti. Wow, now they say Ancelotti is a great coach but, where were those good comments for Ancelotti before at Everton. In fact, when Ancelotti returned to coach Real Madrid at first they had their doubts about him, but now that they have won the Champions League Ancelotti has looked very special.
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