Topic: UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread - page 41. (Read 129819 times)

I agree with you
but the bookmakers considered Liverpool the winner because on the strongest card
pity that sometimes they should consider human factors, such as happiness, fatigue, being rested and other factors


things that I consider
in fact I often guess

Of course, it will be in the spotlight when the player performance gives the best performance for the team he is defending, the Belgian man deserves praise after the final match. Real Madrid have to thank the whole squad for a good performance, especially their goalkeeper who didn't make a blunder. Real Madrid suffered a lot with Liverpool attack, Courtois easily blocked all attacks that kept Real Madrid's goal safe. Luckily, Vinicius goal could not be returned by Liverpool until the game ended, Real Madrid once again won the Champions League with Ancelotti in his second spell.

A person's performance cannot be judged throughout the journey. Individual performances, such as Vinicius or Benzema, I can understand. Courtois' performance against Liverpool will never be forgotten, however. It was his duty as a professional to give his best to his team, and he demonstrated this by being superior. This should make them proud of their man. It's not enough to erase a man's achievements within the club by citing a glory day at their rivals. For Real Madrid, it was an inspirational comeback. The team always finds a way to win when they seem down. Someone is always there to help.

Vinicius Junior became a hero thanks to his goal against Liverpool, but Vinicius goal would mean nothing if Courtois didn't impress in the final. Courtois was able to make nine saves from nine shots on target, Courtois made the difference in the final, thanks to his heroic action securing the Real Madrid goal, all Liverpool players' efforts were in vain. In other words, Real Madrid success in winning the 14th UCL title could not be separated from Courtois' good performances who appeared extraordinary to keep Real Madrid's goal from conceding.

Liverpool had 24 attempts at goal with nine on target. In comparison, Real Madrid had just four attempts, with two on target. However, they capitalized on one of those chances to win. Although Liverpool dominated possession for most of the game, they were unable to find a way through Thibaut Courtois, who pulled off a succession of brilliant saves to keep the now 14-time winners in the game. The  thing is this, Real Madrid have been out played three times in the champions league this season but they still won the league that goes to show that football it's all about the deadliest attacks but it's about the better strategy which is why I rate Antonio Conte, Jose Mourinho and Carlos Ancelotti above other coaches because they know how to deliver in crucial games like this.

Liverpool has very good period in their club history. Three Champions League final in 5 years and under Klopp management, they have always been one of best candidates for Champions League trophy in last decade. That is amazing and big achievement for Klopp, his players and the club itself. They were in troubles before Klopp appearance and together they have been successful with their long term strategic growth building for the club.

Klopp said he want Liverpool fans to book ticket for the Champions League final match next season. It is a very motivational speech from Klopp but we know there will be lot of challenge for them to get another final. Manchester City with Haaland will be very strong next season so will Chelsea and PSG.

People are wrong about Ancelotti. He is a genius coach and has won many titles from many national leagues to Champions League. He is a coach with good experience as high quality player in the past and he understands what his star players need. What do they need? Respect from their coach and Ancelotti gives them such respect and freedom sometimes to play with their best skills and instinct.

With the comprehensive experience from player to coach career and his flexible tactic approach, Ancelotti actually has achieved great things for his management career and clubs he works for.

@AndySt it’s just not luck it’s careful planning, and if you followed Ancelotti career then you would know that he talks less and does more planning on the pitch which makes the end result look so easy. Furthermore read his interviews he said he had decoded how Liverpool would play easily, and that shows that he had done his homework very well and deserves full credit for winning the champions league.

The Champions League finale is going to be in Istanbul next season finally after a very long break. I think that Istanbul is one of the meaningful cities for some teams considering the history of the Champions League. It is exactly like this especially for Liverpool and Milan. That extraordinary final game between them is absolutely unforgettable to me as well. We are going to see both of these teams here next season. I don't have any doubt about Liverpool but I hope Milan can also do something this time.

The most important thing is that Ancelotti is a very lucky coach, because no tactic can allow any opponent to score 2 goals within a minute and a half in added time by the referee of the match. I do not want to belittle Ancelotti's coaching talents, because such results are not easily achieved, but still winning the Champions League this season is mostly luck, rather than some tactical delights of the head coach. Therefore, next season it is desirable to demonstrate something different than Benzema, Modric and Vinicius, they will come up with something there, and Courtois will beat off all the balls sent to the goal

Many think that Carlo Ancelotti is a coach with minimal tactics, but instead he was able to bring Real Madrid to their 14th champions league title and is the team with the most champions league titles at this time. I don't think modern football demands a good game and possession of the ball. In fact, Carlo Ancelotti with minimal tactics is able to make Madrid a pretty good team this season. Carlo Ancelotti is able to make Real Madrid more effective defensively or attacking and this makes it difficult for some clubs when Madrid counter-attack

Sure , they just looking at how real madrid being tortured for nearly the whole 90 minutes but 'strangely' they said .. real madrid managed to win the match and lift the trophy.
Football isn't about who dominating but more than that it's a battle of strategy , you could always looks being so weak but also always come out as a winner every single time.

That is what ancelotti did to real madrid with its italian style , since they beat psg .. chelsea .. manchester city and liverpool , real madrid always looks poor but look at all of those results!

Of course luck plays a role, they had just 1 good shot to the goal during the finals and that was a goal, whereas LFC had 9 shots saved by Courtois, that is basically a proof enough that they were just unlucky. But, remember that Liverpool has been here before, and they will come here again, all the players Liverpool have, and all the new ones that are joining, are players who could play there for a long time, and there is no reason why they can't just try it again next season.

Good thing is, they already got one recently, meaning teams like City and PSG spend 100+ million a year on players every year and they still end up losing, so Liverpool should at least be happy that they got something.

Vinicius Jr is the man of the game in yesterday match , he played a good role for the victory of Real Madrid. Vini had many chances for Real Madrid to win. I will be happy to see him in the next season,  vini is an important player for Real Madrid.

Ancelotti is definitely a very special manager and he is a winner too. Real Madrid are very lucky to have him now. He knew what to do against dominant teams in the Champions League too and they eliminated very tough opponents one by one. Real Madrid didn't have many chances as I said but they took advantage of the ones they had very nicely. Real Madrid are one of the best teams really when it comes to getting out of troubling situations. Ancelotti is a great tactician indeed and I can't wait to watch them in the Champions League next season too.

I don't argue that he played a good game and saved the team in some moments. But that doesn't mean he was the best player of the match, I think Real Madrid were lucky in many moments. For me personally Vinicius seemed to be the best player of the match, he created a lot of chances. Liverpool dominated from the opening minutes and overwhelmed Real Madrid the whole first half, they just lacked a little bit.

Your arguments are totally right. I agree with your words. This achievement is quite extraordinary. And it will be hard (maybe impossible) for all others to catch up! Real Madrid is really a winner team.

Despite the great history that Real Madrid has made in various competitions and is the ruling club of Europe, it is very strange when people say Real Madrid won by luck.  Don't people like this see that every football club has a manager?  I want to emphasize, Real Madrid's victory was purely because of the strategy implemented by Carlo Ancelotti.  For people who understand football, they will not say "luck".

French Sports Minister unveiled that the cause of the chaos involving Liverpool fans and French law enforcement agents was because many Liverpool fans tried to enter the stadium with fake tickets. This made most of them to be denied access causing some of them to attempt to force their way into the stadium. The police responded by using pepper spray and canisters. Today, Gerald French Interior Minister just announced that Liverpool coach Jurgen Klopp contributed to the chaos because report showed that he told Liverpool fans to travel to the finals without without buying tickets. The source of this information is still sketchy because investigation is still going on. 

in this case it can be considered like that, they are out of luck because as you said they are already very superior in everything except goals
In this case, Vini's goal is surprising and indeed this is one of Madrid's strategies. look when they managed to score a goal how many defenders they put in like Camavinga and Ceballos who were meant to be a scourge in the defensive midfielder.
On the other hand, if we look after they scored a goal the only players saved in Liverpool's defense were Benzema and Vini there, even at the corner at the last minute, only 2 players were in the Liverpool penalty box.

Madrid have secured the Spanish League title 3 weeks before the UCL final. Meanwhile, Liverpool still have to play in the EPL until the end seriously because the chances of winning are still great. It seems that's what makes Liverpool have more pressure. Apart from physical fatigue Liverpool do not have a strong mentality like madrid. The guarantee of having more Young players doesn't make liverpool champions. Although I understand Liverpool will dominate but Madrid are more effective in counterattacks.