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Quote from: Sebas.tian on June 01, 2022, 12:07:59 AM

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Real Madrid were definitely not the favorites to win the World Cup at the start of the season. I think the odds for Real Madrid were around 12 at the start. They have now won the Champions League 4 times in the last 6/7 years. That's a great achievement. Barcelona hasn't done that once in the last 10 years. They won't be the favorite next year either, but we shouldn't be surprised if they just become champions again next season.

I think, Real Madrid has what it takes to win next season title because their coach has done a lot of things that will help Real Madrid to remain winning in any competition. What we saw during the champion league final really shocked many people, because nobody expect that Real Madrid can defeat Liverpool to embraced the title but they defeated Liverpool 1-0 to alert other strong teams that they remain unbeatable in this season and next season. Real Madrid defenders really saved the team because Liverpool strikers tried their possible to defeat Real Madrid with many goals but their defenders never allow Liverpool to achieve any goal from the match till they achieved the title.

I don't know why Football fans keep saying that Real Madrid didn't play well or were not the favourite. In a final, there are key moments, psychological moments that take a team, where the slightest error can eliminate you and the those who are best prepared for those situations end up winning or reaching the final. It is obvious that some of them didn't analyze Madrid's style of play. They had about 4 chances and throughout the game you could detect some measures of accurate passes, strong counter-attacking, good movement off the ball, exceptional positioning, fluid movement of passes between the players and most importantly discipline and focus. They were so focused on the game that they only need a chance on target to score. Anyone that understands football will never neglect Madrid's teamwork. Liverpool were playing with panic and in a rush to score which allowed Madrid to understand there strategy and loopholes. Real Madrid had to work on that and he were the champions.

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This was unexpected at the start of the Champions League season.
Real Madrid is not a favorite team in the Champions League, but somehow Real Madrid managed to become champions. Real Madrid with a makeshift squad Able to put up a fight with a team that is in a squad above Real Madrid such as Manchester city and PSG.
Maybe this is what is called a champion mentality squad. They are able to play calmly and are able to overcome the resistance of star-studded players like PSG and Manchester City.
This is Real Madrid making a lot of money from Champions League and La Liga Champions.

If you think Real Madrid are not the favorite team in the Champions League then I really don't think you know football and this team. Real Madrid are one of the regular teams in this competition every season and they are always favorites to reach the final and even win the title, yes they can fail too but it seems unreasonable to underestimate them. I don't know why you say Real Madrid are not favourites when all the favorites they have beaten and won the title this season. PSG, Chelsea, Manchester City and Liverpool are some of the favorites they have beaten this season. Then what makes you doubt?

Real Madrid also dominate Laliga, they won a lot of match so it is easy for them to win the title at the end of the season and can concentrate fully on the Champions League. Your opinion cannot be justified.

Real Madrid is the only team that has won the most Champions League titles, the acquisition of the Real Madrid trophy is difficult to match for any team in the next 10 or 15 years. Competition To win the Champions League title is very competitive, those who enter the Champions League are always dominated by the favorite club to win. Germany, Italy, England, Spain and France always send their best representatives, but Real Madrid can overcome all obstacles from other favorite teams. It's absurd to think Real Madrid are not favourites, because Real Madrid's journey in the Champions League is difficult for any team to stop.

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Quote from: superman184 on May 31, 2022, 11:54:44 PM

This was unexpected at the start of the Champions League season.
Real Madrid is not a favorite team in the Champions League, but somehow Real Madrid managed to become champions. Real Madrid with a makeshift squad Able to put up a fight with a team that is in a squad above Real Madrid such as Manchester city and PSG.
Maybe this is what is called a champion mentality squad. They are able to play calmly and are able to overcome the resistance of star-studded players like PSG and Manchester City.
This is Real Madrid making a lot of money from Champions League and La Liga Champions.

If you think Real Madrid are not the favorite team in the Champions League then I really don't think you know football and this team. Real Madrid are one of the regular teams in this competition every season and they are always favorites to reach the final and even win the title, yes they can fail too but it seems unreasonable to underestimate them. I don't know why you say Real Madrid are not favourites when all the favorites they have beaten and won the title this season. PSG, Chelsea, Manchester City and Liverpool are some of the favorites they have beaten this season. Then what makes you doubt?

Real Madrid also dominate Laliga, they won a lot of match so it is easy for them to win the title at the end of the season and can concentrate fully on the Champions League. Your opinion cannot be justified.

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Real Madrid were definitely not the favorites to win the World Cup at the start of the season. I think the odds for Real Madrid were around 12 at the start. They have now won the Champions League 4 times in the last 6/7 years. That's a great achievement. Barcelona hasn't done that once in the last 10 years. They won't be the favorite next year either, but we shouldn't be surprised if they just become champions again next season.

I think, Real Madrid has what it takes to win next season title because their coach has done a lot of things that will help Real Madrid to remain winning in any competition. What we saw during the champion league final really shocked many people, because nobody expect that Real Madrid can defeat Liverpool to embraced the title but they defeated Liverpool 1-0 to alert other strong teams that they remain unbeatable in this season and next season. Real Madrid defenders really saved the team because Liverpool strikers tried their possible to defeat Real Madrid with many goals but their defenders never allow Liverpool to achieve any goal from the match till they achieved the title.

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Quote from: rby on May 31, 2022, 04:34:57 PM

We need to note one important thing, no matter the poor form of Real Madrid, when it comes to Champions league from round 16 they are always the favourites. They cannot be ruled out of Champions League for any reason. Even for next season they will still be strong contenders.

we couldn't actually envision Champions League without them, this team main purpose to rule the league title. Liverpool predominant in first half however didn't take their opportunities, while Real Madrid were improved on last part and took their chance. Real just find a way to win. You should credit Real Madrid class performance. None team just couldn't break them down and they're simply excessively great. At the end of the day they win the 14th Champions League Trophy. Respect greatness.

This is normal. It is the team with the most Champions Leagues by far the second. Add to this the fact that winning the Champions League has a snowball effect, as it will automatically bring in more revenue than it already had, and Madrid will be favourites in any upcoming season. A lot would have to change for that not to be the case.

This was unexpected at the start of the Champions League season.
Real Madrid is not a favorite team in the Champions League, but somehow Real Madrid managed to become champions. Real Madrid with a makeshift squad Able to put up a fight with a team that is in a squad above Real Madrid such as Manchester city and PSG.
Maybe this is what is called a champion mentality squad. They are able to play calmly and are able to overcome the resistance of star-studded players like PSG and Manchester City.
This is Real Madrid making a lot of money from Champions League and La Liga Champions.

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We need to note one important thing, no matter the poor form of Real Madrid, when it comes to Champions league from round 16 they are always the favourites. They cannot be ruled out of Champions League for any reason. Even for next season they will still be strong contenders.

we couldn't actually envision Champions League without them, this team main purpose to rule the league title. Liverpool predominant in first half however didn't take their opportunities, while Real Madrid were improved on last part and took their chance. Real just find a way to win. You should credit Real Madrid class performance. None team just couldn't break them down and they're simply excessively great. At the end of the day they win the 14th Champions League Trophy. Respect greatness.

This is normal. It is the team with the most Champions Leagues by far the second. Add to this the fact that winning the Champions League has a snowball effect, as it will automatically bring in more revenue than it already had, and Madrid will be favourites in any upcoming season. A lot would have to change for that not to be the case.

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Real Madrid were definitely not the favorites to win the World Cup at the start of the season. I think the odds for Real Madrid were around 12 at the start. They have now won the Champions League 4 times in the last 6/7 years. That's a great achievement. Barcelona hasn't done that once in the last 10 years. They won't be the favorite next year either, but we shouldn't be surprised if they just become champions again next season.

maybe you mean the Champions League Trophy. I may slightly disagree with what you say because Real Madrid journey in the Champions League this season is quite difficult because they have to face big teams like Chelsea, Manchester City and PSG. But in reality Real madrid was able to beat their opponents and can go to the final against Liverpool. And the final match was quite exciting but at the end of the match Real Madrid was able to win the match and win the 14th Champions League Trophy.

Though Real Madrid did not start well this season. They had problems in their team, especially in the defence line after Ramos left. But the struggle was not long before they bounced back to track and since then they have remained consistent.

We need to note one important thing, no matter the poor form of Real Madrid, when it comes to Champions league from round 16 they are always the favourites. They cannot be ruled out of Champions League for any reason. Even for next season they will still be strong contenders.

we couldn't actually envision Champions League without them, this team main purpose to rule the league title. Liverpool predominant in first half however didn't take their opportunities, while Real Madrid were improved on last part and took their chance. Real just find a way to win. You should credit Real Madrid class performance. None team just couldn't break them down and they're simply excessively great. At the end of the day they win the 14th Champions League Trophy. Respect greatness.

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Quote from: Luzin on May 31, 2022, 05:55:36 PM

Quote from: skarais on May 31, 2022, 03:09:12 PM

Real Madrid's best effort in that match was to maximize the few chances they created into goals and defend well from Liverpool's attacks. Although a bit boring, but Real Madrid is the winner. But don't say Real Madrid's win was luck, maybe someone will be angry. Lol

You're right, they don't look domineering but they win. A lot of teams do that, they take advantage of counterattacks and finishing. I guessed that from the beginning, because Klop's football has the same character as Pep dominated and controlled the game. It does look very boring but they win and the champion is the main goal. In fact, this is similar to when in the knockout phase played against Chelsea and Man City. Liverpool should have been familiar with the strategy of anceloti. But it was a pity that a mistake on the left side allowed Valverde to make a shot attempt on goal that came out being smothered by Vinicius.

By the way, the words of the chairman of the board of directors of Manchester City, Khaldun al Mubarak, are indicative that Peres congratulated him on his victory in the 82nd minute. That is, here it is the irony of fate and the power of the case when the opponent's president congratulates you on your victory ten minutes before the end of the match, and then the opponent compares the score and everything turns upside down. And as for luck, I would like to say the following: if you want to win the lottery, you must have a lottery ticket and I don't understand why some Real Madrid fans are ashamed of the luck of their favorite team?! Grin

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Quote from: skarais on May 31, 2022, 03:09:12 PM

Real Madrid's best effort in that match was to maximize the few chances they created into goals and defend well from Liverpool's attacks. Although a bit boring, but Real Madrid is the winner. But don't say Real Madrid's win was luck, maybe someone will be angry. Lol

You're right, they don't look domineering but they win. A lot of teams do that, they take advantage of counterattacks and finishing. I guessed that from the beginning, because Klop's football has the same character as Pep dominated and controlled the game. It does look very boring but they win and the champion is the main goal.
In fact, this is similar to when in the knockout phase played against Chelsea and Man City. Liverpool should have been familiar with the strategy of anceloti. But it was a pity that a mistake on the left side allowed Valverde to make a shot attempt on goal that came out being smothered by Vinicius.

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Real Madrid were definitely not the favorites to win the World Cup at the start of the season. I think the odds for Real Madrid were around 12 at the start. They have now won the Champions League 4 times in the last 6/7 years. That's a great achievement. Barcelona hasn't done that once in the last 10 years. They won't be the favorite next year either, but we shouldn't be surprised if they just become champions again next season.

maybe you mean the Champions League Trophy. I may slightly disagree with what you say because Real Madrid journey in the Champions League this season is quite difficult because they have to face big teams like Chelsea, Manchester City and PSG. But in reality Real madrid was able to beat their opponents and can go to the final against Liverpool. And the final match was quite exciting but at the end of the match Real Madrid was able to win the match and win the 14th Champions League Trophy.

Though Real Madrid did not start well this season. They had problems in their team, especially in the defence line after Ramos left. But the struggle was not long before they bounced back to track and since then they have remained consistent.

We need to note one important thing, no matter the poor form of Real Madrid, when it comes to Champions league from round 16 they are always the favourites. They cannot be ruled out of Champions League for any reason. Even for next season they will still be strong contenders.

Football is a team sport, you don't necessarily need great players, you need group of players that are team players. That's what Real Madrid had this just concluded season. Truthfully, this season they didn't start really well especially defensively but club like Real Madrid will always have young options and the midfielders and striker did the needful to help the team.

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Real Madrid were definitely not the favorites to win the World Cup at the start of the season. I think the odds for Real Madrid were around 12 at the start. They have now won the Champions League 4 times in the last 6/7 years. That's a great achievement. Barcelona hasn't done that once in the last 10 years. They won't be the favorite next year either, but we shouldn't be surprised if they just become champions again next season.

maybe you mean the Champions League Trophy. I may slightly disagree with what you say because Real Madrid journey in the Champions League this season is quite difficult because they have to face big teams like Chelsea, Manchester City and PSG. But in reality Real madrid was able to beat their opponents and can go to the final against Liverpool. And the final match was quite exciting but at the end of the match Real Madrid was able to win the match and win the 14th Champions League Trophy.

Though Real Madrid did not start well this season. They had problems in their team, especially in the defence line after Ramos left. But the struggle was not long before they bounced back to track and since then they have remained consistent.

We need to note one important thing, no matter the poor form of Real Madrid, when it comes to Champions league from round 16 they are always the favourites. They cannot be ruled out of Champions League for any reason. Even for next season they will still be strong contenders.

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Real Madrid were definitely not the favorites to win the World Cup at the start of the season. I think the odds for Real Madrid were around 12 at the start. They have now won the Champions League 4 times in the last 6/7 years. That's a great achievement. Barcelona hasn't done that once in the last 10 years. They won't be the favorite next year either, but we shouldn't be surprised if they just become champions again next season.

maybe you mean the Champions League Trophy. I may slightly disagree with what you say because Real Madrid journey in the Champions League this season is quite difficult because they have to face big teams like Chelsea, Manchester City and PSG. But in reality Real madrid was able to beat their opponents and can go to the final against Liverpool. And the final match was quite exciting but at the end of the match Real Madrid was able to win the match and win the 14th Champions League Trophy.

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Quote from: hahay on May 31, 2022, 08:54:43 AM

I personally saw it from a different angle because Real Madrid played like a mediocre team against the favourites, Real Madrid's game play in the final didn't reflect they were a big team. Real Madrid only plays defensively and that gameplay is the usual gameplay used by mediocre teams when playing against top teams and therefore, even though Real Madrid won, I wasn't quite happy with the gameplay like that applied by Real Madrid.

I can understand that people do not like defensive play, as without a doubt it is way more fun to see both teams to try their best to score as many goals as possible, so in that regard I can understand your issues with Real Madrid, however defensive play is an important aspect of any sport and it is as valid as offensive play, and not only that, defensive proficiency is so important that in many sports the one that can defend the best is usually the one that wins.

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Real Madrid were definitely not the favorites to win the World Cup at the start of the season. I think the odds for Real Madrid were around 12 at the start. They have now won the Champions League 4 times in the last 6/7 years. That's a great achievement. Barcelona hasn't done that once in the last 10 years. They won't be the favorite next year either, but we shouldn't be surprised if they just become champions again next season.

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Quote from: hahay on May 31, 2022, 08:54:43 AM

I personally saw it from a different angle because Real Madrid played like a mediocre team against the favourites, Real Madrid's game play in the final didn't reflect they were a big team. Real Madrid only plays defensively and that gameplay is the usual gameplay used by mediocre teams when playing against top teams and therefore, even though Real Madrid won, I wasn't quite happy with the gameplay like that applied by Real Madrid.

You are right, the gameplay we are witnessing from Real Madrid is not like a big team with a long history in the Champions League. I may agree that it is part of the strategy to win the game, but I can think of how much risk Real Madrid will lose with that strategy after scoring 1 goal. Luckily Courtois was able to save his goal from conceding, because if not then I think 2 to 3 goals might have gone into the net.

Real Madrid's best effort in that match was to maximize the few chances they created into goals and defend well from Liverpool's attacks. Although a bit boring, but Real Madrid is the winner. But don't say Real Madrid's win was luck, maybe someone will be angry. Lol

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I agree with you. Real Madrid played completely defensively against Liverpool in the final. But Madrid made several quick counter-attacks. The Liverpool defender is very experienced so Liverpool did not concede goal. Carlo Ancelotti's match strategy was very nice. He must know the weakness of his team very well. And so he sorted out his game plan with defensive tactics and won the title.

But Liverpool also conceded in the end even though Liverpool defense was very strong, but Carlo Ancelotti's strategy was able to break Liverpool defense to leave one goal in Liverpool goal until the end of the match. So congratulations to Real Madrid because they deserved to lift the Champions League trophy this season.

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I think regardless of what it is, the fact that Madrid has won now, whether you believe it or not, accept it or not, of course, all parties have to relax now.
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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on May 31, 2022, 02:37:35 PM

I agree with you. Real Madrid played completely defensively against Liverpool in the final. But Madrid made several quick counter-attacks. The Liverpool defender is very experienced so Liverpool did not concede goal. Carlo Ancelotti's match strategy was very nice. He must know the weakness of his team very well. And so he sorted out his game plan with defensive tactics and won the title.

But Liverpool also conceded in the end even though Liverpool defense was very strong, but Carlo Ancelotti strategy was able to break Liverpool defense to leave one goal in Liverpool goal until the end of the match. So congratulations to Real Madrid because they deserved to lift the Champions League trophy this season.

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Not so many expected Real Madrid to win the finals but with all odds, the club was able to make a 1 goal win which was an unexpected goal, I love the fact that Real Madrid players took advantage of that one-goal score to win the championship this season. A lot of football fans predicted a win for Liverpool again that is football anything can happen. Once again congratulations to Real Madrid let's hope they perform better next season to maintain the trophy just like they have been doing in the last 14th finals the club has Carried.

I see the key to Madrid's victory is the calmness of the players both in the face of pressure and when building attacks so that the accuracy of the passes between players is very good, precise and indirectly they can save energy and set strategies when defending and attacking.
Liverpool play very well between players & between lines
Real Madrid's passing of players is very revolutionary and effective.

Effective with defensive and faster when counter attack is the key how make Madrid success on champion league, not any match begin 16 round until final Real Madrid dominance on ball possession, shoot on goals until how effective created many attempt but always one shoot can give one goals for Real Madrid. I know how danger when Real Madrid make counter attack although left with Karim Benzema and Vinicius Jr only at forward area always give chance for Madrid can scoring goal. Actually with Carlo Ancelotti not really care with playing well and dominance on ball possession, but how effective with counter attack and scored goal.

I agree with you. Real Madrid played completely defensively against Liverpool in the final. But Madrid made several quick counter-attacks. The Liverpool defender is very experienced so Liverpool did not concede goal. Carlo Ancelotti's match strategy was very nice. He must know the weakness of his team very well. And so he sorted out his game plan with defensive tactics and won the title.

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Isn't that obvious, if he doesn't stand out then he won't get the Man Of The Match title in this match.
But this is the success of all players not just one or two players. Vini is doing his job well on the other hand Courtois is the same, look at least 3-4 chances for Salah to be saved which makes him quite frustrating.
Not to mention Mane and Diaz who are not free in this match.

yes it is, this is a team game that has done a very good job, starting from the goalkeeper, the defense and also the forwards. Real Madrid players play very confidently. The thing that scored the goal was that Vinicius Junior was inseparable from the bait that spoiled him so much that he could easily put the ball into Liverpool's goal.
I think all Real Madrid players are heroes to win their 14th Champions League trophy.

In my opinion, they played quite well, but overall, they looked normal in the game, even though the goals they took, of course, won them over.
But from a visionary point of view, this final is really just one-sided and Liverpool are clearly superior in the game.
Luckily Madrid's mentality is very good and made it a win for them

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Not so many expected Real Madrid to win the finals but with all odds, the club was able to make a 1 goal win which was an unexpected goal, I love the fact that Real Madrid players took advantage of that one-goal score to win the championship this season. A lot of football fans predicted a win for Liverpool again that is football anything can happen. Once again congratulations to Real Madrid let's hope they perform better next season to maintain the trophy just like they have been doing in the last 14th finals the club has Carried.

I see the key to Madrid's victory is the calmness of the players both in the face of pressure and when building attacks so that the accuracy of the passes between players is very good, precise and indirectly they can save energy and set strategies when defending and attacking.
Liverpool play very well between players & between lines
Real Madrid's passing of players is very revolutionary and effective.

Effective with defensive and faster when counter attack is the key how make Madrid success on champion league, not any match begin 16 round until final Real Madrid dominance on ball possession, shoot on goals until how effective created many attempt but always one shoot can give one goals for Real Madrid. I know how danger when Real Madrid make counter attack although left with Karim Benzema and Vinicius Jr only at forward area always give chance for Madrid can scoring goal. Actually with Carlo Ancelotti not really care with playing well and dominance on ball possession, but how effective with counter attack and scored goal.

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