UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread - page 448.

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Quote from: maju69 on February 13, 2022, 10:43:35 AM

Real Madrid got an unsatisfactory result in La Liga, before undergoing a Champions League match against PSG. I think Paris Saint-Germain should be able to see where Real Madrid's weaknesses are if we look at some of the matches yesterday. Yes Real Madrid's front line is a little unproductive, they are only able to score 2 goals from their last 3 matches. This is really a weakness that PSG should take advantage of.

PSG's play will be radically different from the style of play of Villarreal and Mallorca. I don't think that PSG will sit on the defensive and look for luck in counterattacks. PSG will most likely try to dominate the entire match by offering Real Madrid a game at high speeds. And in such a game, everything will depend on the physical condition of the team.

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Quote from: KTChampions on February 13, 2022, 05:53:49 AM

Quote from: karabiber on February 12, 2022, 06:55:58 PM

Bayern Munich has won all six games in the Champions League this season. If Bayern Munich gets another win, the 14/15 season will catch the 7-game streak of the Real Madrid team. My personal favorite Bayern Munich, has won all its matches against Austrian teams in tournaments and is the favorite team of the Salzburg match.

Bayern got lucky and got the easiest opponent of all, now they can improve their record streak, and Lewandowski can increase his goalscoring tally. After the group stage, he already has 9 goals scored and with such an opponent, Lewandowski can try to surpass Ronaldo's record. I hope Ronaldo, despite the crisis at United, will also be able to score a few goals.

Bayern is the huge favorite in the match against Red Bull Salzburg and i was pretty sure that Bayern would have zero problems to advance into the next round here when i saw the draw a few weeks ago, but seeing the latest performances of Bayern i think everything is possible in the match on tuesday. Of course i still think that Bayern is the better team and will most likely win but if Salzburg manages to get a good start into the game and maybe even score an early goal then everything is possible in my opinion because Bayern was extremely shaky in the defense in the last week and yesterdays match against Bochum proved that again.

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Quote from: BALIK on February 13, 2022, 11:32:52 AM

Quote from: DU18 on February 13, 2022, 12:33:17 AM

Quote from: Dewi Aries on February 12, 2022, 06:17:22 PM

This is one of the matches we are looking forward to 2 strong teams from different leagues will fight but this time I believe PSG can be relied on
As you said Messi performance is improving and Mbappe looks hungry for goals I can't imagine the collaboration of these 2 players against Madrid besides that PSG also has players with equal abilities on all lines.

Two matches in Ligue 1 when PSG won against Lille and Renner also saw the chemistry between Mbappe and Lionel Messi, especially in the last match when PSG narrowly won 1-0 against Renner where an assist from Lionel Messi was able to be used by Mbappe to become PSG's winning goal. Maybe against Real Madrid the duo of Messi and Mbappe will be maintained even though the absence of Neymar is at least enough to make Madrid's defense will experience difficulties.

That chemistry is certainly there between the attackers of PSG but I don't think that even this type of chemistry exists between the whole team and if it did, the whole team would have been doing much better.
I do think that Neymar not being there will be a problem for PSG and they are going to have a really hard time. It's really going to be tough against Real Madrid.

Sooner or later, we're going to see a moment when the players up front show how good they are. Mbappe is likely to leave in the summer, so if PSG want to win the Champions League then it will be a lot easier this season. The Parisians have not had a great draw with Real Madrid. They could also use new success. it will surely be the most interesting clash to see in the coming matches.

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Quote from: DU18 on February 13, 2022, 12:33:17 AM

Quote from: Dewi Aries on February 12, 2022, 06:17:22 PM

This is one of the matches we are looking forward to 2 strong teams from different leagues will fight but this time I believe PSG can be relied on
As you said Messi performance is improving and Mbappe looks hungry for goals I can't imagine the collaboration of these 2 players against Madrid besides that PSG also has players with equal abilities on all lines.

Two matches in Ligue 1 when PSG won against Lille and Renner also saw the chemistry between Mbappe and Lionel Messi, especially in the last match when PSG narrowly won 1-0 against Renner where an assist from Lionel Messi was able to be used by Mbappe to become PSG's winning goal. Maybe against Real Madrid the duo of Messi and Mbappe will be maintained even though the absence of Neymar is at least enough to make Madrid's defense will experience difficulties.

That chemistry is certainly there between the attackers of PSG but I don't think that even this type of chemistry exists between the whole team and if it did, the whole team would have been doing much better.
I do think that Neymar not being there will be a problem for PSG and they are going to have a really hard time. It's really going to be tough against Real Madrid.

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Real Madrid got an unsatisfactory result in La Liga, before undergoing a Champions League match against PSG. I think Paris Saint-Germain should be able to see where Real Madrid's weaknesses are if we look at some of the matches yesterday. Yes Real Madrid's front line is a little unproductive, they are only able to score 2 goals from their last 3 matches. This is really a weakness that PSG should take advantage of.

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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on February 13, 2022, 09:30:20 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on February 13, 2022, 05:53:49 AM

Quote from: karabiber on February 12, 2022, 06:55:58 PM

Bayern Munich has won all six games in the Champions League this season. If Bayern Munich gets another win, the 14/15 season will catch the 7-game streak of the Real Madrid team. My personal favorite Bayern Munich, has won all its matches against Austrian teams in tournaments and is the favorite team of the Salzburg match.

Bayern got lucky and got the easiest opponent of all, now they can improve their record streak, and Lewandowski can increase his goalscoring tally. After the group stage, he already has 9 goals scored and with such an opponent, Lewandowski can try to surpass Ronaldo's record. I hope Ronaldo, despite the crisis at United, will also be able to score a few goals.

I think Ronaldo will do good. He has come to the rescue for his team countless times and I want to be surprised if that happens again. Maybe after that people will believe that he's not the problem.

Quote from: panjul07 on February 13, 2022, 06:30:50 AM

I'm not trying to underestimate Salzburg, but I believe Bayern will be able to beat them in both 1st and 2nd leg.
If it will happen, Bayern will break the record but I do not think Bayern cares about it much.
They should be focusing on how to maximize every chance in every match and to go to the Final then bring the trophy to Germany.
Salzburg may play nothing to lose and it may make a big surprise if Bayern is underestimating them.

After Bayern lost the match against Bochum I am genuinely scared to make any prediction. I know people might think I am just trolling and I also know that Bayern Munich should be the easy winners too.

Very right what you said about Bayern Munich. They often also benefited from their reputation as being extremely hard to beat, close to invincible. Now the teams will be much braver, way more aggressive against Bayern because they know Bayern has weaknesses. I would almost say that Bayern suffers from very blatantly obvious weaknesses this season. They lost four games in the league against teams from the lower half of the table, they lost 0-5 against Gladbach in the DFB Cup. Salzburg is certainly seeing a realistic chance to win here. I think it won't be a one-sided duel in favor of Bayern...

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Quote from: KTChampions on February 13, 2022, 05:53:49 AM

Quote from: karabiber on February 12, 2022, 06:55:58 PM

Bayern Munich has won all six games in the Champions League this season. If Bayern Munich gets another win, the 14/15 season will catch the 7-game streak of the Real Madrid team. My personal favorite Bayern Munich, has won all its matches against Austrian teams in tournaments and is the favorite team of the Salzburg match.

Bayern got lucky and got the easiest opponent of all, now they can improve their record streak, and Lewandowski can increase his goalscoring tally. After the group stage, he already has 9 goals scored and with such an opponent, Lewandowski can try to surpass Ronaldo's record. I hope Ronaldo, despite the crisis at United, will also be able to score a few goals.

I think Ronaldo will do good. He has come to the rescue for his team countless times and I want to be surprised if that happens again. Maybe after that people will believe that he's not the problem.

Quote from: panjul07 on February 13, 2022, 06:30:50 AM

I'm not trying to underestimate Salzburg, but I believe Bayern will be able to beat them in both 1st and 2nd leg.
If it will happen, Bayern will break the record but I do not think Bayern cares about it much.
They should be focusing on how to maximize every chance in every match and to go to the Final then bring the trophy to Germany.
Salzburg may play nothing to lose and it may make a big surprise if Bayern is underestimating them.

After Bayern lost the match against Bochum I am genuinely scared to make any prediction. I know people might think I am just trolling and I also know that Bayern Munich should be the easy winners too.

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Quote from: karabiber on February 12, 2022, 06:55:58 PM

Bayern Munich has won all six games in the Champions League this season. If Bayern Munich gets another win, the 14/15 season will catch the 7-game streak of the Real Madrid team. My personal favorite Bayern Munich, has won all its matches against Austrian teams in tournaments and is the favorite team of the Salzburg match.

I'm not trying to underestimate Salzburg, but I believe Bayern will be able to beat them in both 1st and 2nd leg.
If it will happen, Bayern will break the record but I do not think Bayern cares about it much.
They should be focusing on how to maximize every chance in every match and to go to the Final then bring the trophy to Germany.
Salzburg may play nothing to lose and it may make a big surprise if Bayern is underestimating them.

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Quote from: karabiber on February 12, 2022, 06:55:58 PM

Bayern Munich has won all six games in the Champions League this season. If Bayern Munich gets another win, the 14/15 season will catch the 7-game streak of the Real Madrid team. My personal favorite Bayern Munich, has won all its matches against Austrian teams in tournaments and is the favorite team of the Salzburg match.

Bayern got lucky and got the easiest opponent of all, now they can improve their record streak, and Lewandowski can increase his goalscoring tally. After the group stage, he already has 9 goals scored and with such an opponent, Lewandowski can try to surpass Ronaldo's record. I hope Ronaldo, despite the crisis at United, will also be able to score a few goals.

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on February 12, 2022, 06:17:22 PM

This is one of the matches we are looking forward to 2 strong teams from different leagues will fight but this time I believe PSG can be relied on
As you said Messi performance is improving and Mbappe looks hungry for goals I can't imagine the collaboration of these 2 players against Madrid besides that PSG also has players with equal abilities on all lines.

Two matches in Ligue 1 when PSG won against Lille and Renner also saw the chemistry between Mbappe and Lionel Messi, especially in the last match when PSG narrowly won 1-0 against Renner where an assist from Lionel Messi was able to be used by Mbappe to become PSG's winning goal. Maybe against Real Madrid the duo of Messi and Mbappe will be maintained even though the absence of Neymar is at least enough to make Madrid's defense will experience difficulties.

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Quote from: MinoRaiola on February 12, 2022, 04:40:55 PM

Paris St. Germain vs. Real Madrid
For me one very interesting game, or maybe the most interesting game in the coming week. Messi didn't show much of his worldclass at PSG. He is not in top form.

We shouldn't be expecting so much from this top players, they're getting old. We know they're good because they have proven them previously on different occasions. Now their legs are getting weak so it should be understandable when they don't turn up. We have young talents that now runs the games, this are players we're supposed to be mad at if they under performed.

This match I still see Real Madrid wining with a 2 goals to 1 scoreline. In this game, Real Madrid would be the underdog but still have history on their side. Even though they not doing so great in la Liga with the draws recently, this isn't La Liga, this is the champion league, which are both different competition with different atmosphere.

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Quote from: MinoRaiola on February 12, 2022, 04:40:55 PM

Paris St. Germain vs. Real Madrid
For me one very interesting game, or maybe the most interesting game in the coming week. Messi didn't show much of his worldclass at PSG. He is not in top form. His Covid infection at the beginning of January hit him hard, so he needed many weeks to get fit again. And he is new in Paris, a different country, less sun. After 21 years at FC Barcelona, that's not easy. When will he show his potential? I hope against Real Madrid, he knows them well. Mbappe will also play against his new club, it will be very interesting.

Right now, situation is not good in Real Madrid with absence of Benzema they are facing drought in goals and having some bad results in Spanish League which is not good for them in this match they are going to face PSG which is also having some issues but with recent results and now after having some better performance from their strikers they are doing good few days back mostly peoples were feeling this match is going to be very tough for both teams but with current Real Madrid form mostly feeling PSG can win and advance into next round because they have some better quality and aggression then Real Madrid in presence of Mbappe, Messi, Neymar and Icardi these all are the most lethal players in European soccer with have some good skills and qualities for changing matches situation with their own performance and style of play.

If PSG having some good result at home then surely they can win and advance without any serious trouble.

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Bayern Munich has won all six games in the Champions League this season. If Bayern Munich gets another win, the 14/15 season will catch the 7-game streak of the Real Madrid team. My personal favorite Bayern Munich, has won all its matches against Austrian teams in tournaments and is the favorite team of the Salzburg match.

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Quote from: DU18 on February 12, 2022, 05:16:04 PM

Quote from: MinoRaiola on February 12, 2022, 04:40:55 PM

Paris St. Germain vs. Real Madrid
For me one very interesting game, or maybe the most interesting game in the coming week. Messi didn't show much of his worldclass at PSG. He is not in top form. His Covid infection at the beginning of January hit him hard, so he needed many weeks to get fit again. And he is new in Paris, a different country, less sun. After 21 years at FC Barcelona, that's not easy. When will he show his potential? I hope against Real Madrid, he knows them well. Mbappe will also play against his new club, it will be very interesting.

Messi have showed his consistent performance last two match before on Ligue 1, last two match before against Lille Messi show most impressive performance by creating goal and assist, last game when PSG success win from Renner Messi become most important player with his assist for the only one goal PSG created by Mbappe, I think Messi have top performance right now for Champion League against Real Madrid where have inconsistent performance, last match draw with Villareal and I think have bad start for facing Champion League.

This is one of the matches we are looking forward to 2 strong teams from different leagues will fight but this time I believe PSG can be relied on
As you said Messi performance is improving and Mbappe looks hungry for goals I can't imagine the collaboration of these 2 players against Madrid besides that PSG also has players with equal abilities on all lines.

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Quote from: MinoRaiola on February 12, 2022, 04:40:55 PM

Paris St. Germain vs. Real Madrid
For me one very interesting game, or maybe the most interesting game in the coming week. Messi didn't show much of his worldclass at PSG. He is not in top form. His Covid infection at the beginning of January hit him hard, so he needed many weeks to get fit again. And he is new in Paris, a different country, less sun. After 21 years at FC Barcelona, that's not easy. When will he show his potential? I hope against Real Madrid, he knows them well. Mbappe will also play against his new club, it will be very interesting.

Messi have showed his consistent performance last two match before on Ligue 1, last two match before against Lille Messi show most impressive performance by creating goal and assist, last game when PSG success win from Renner Messi become most important player with his assist for the only one goal PSG created by Mbappe, I think Messi have top performance right now for Champion League against Real Madrid where have inconsistent performance, last match draw with Villareal and I think have bad start for facing Champion League.

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Paris St. Germain vs. Real Madrid
For me one very interesting game, or maybe the most interesting game in the coming week. Messi didn't show much of his worldclass at PSG. He is not in top form. His Covid infection at the beginning of January hit him hard, so he needed many weeks to get fit again. And he is new in Paris, a different country, less sun. After 21 years at FC Barcelona, that's not easy. When will he show his potential? I hope against Real Madrid, he knows them well. Mbappe will also play against his new club, it will be very interesting.

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Ronaldo still has the quality to make the difference. However, he is also a problem for his teams, as the tactics and style of play have to be heavily tuned to him in order for him to shine, and that is not necessarily the best tactic for the team. You noticed that at Juventus and you're noticing it now at ManU. I think the team would be better overall if Ronaldo wasn't part of the team.

I don't think Ronaldo is the problem at Manchester United. There are several names that should be mentioned as obstacles, Greenwood, Frederico Rodrigues and Maguire. Greenwood, he is too selfish in team play, Maguire always makes mistakes that lead to fatal for Manchester. I've seen in some games it's always those names that come up for his mistakes.

Well the atmosphere there has been built in negative one , not even cristiano and messi at once can fix the critical damage on the team in rush.
Slow and steady .. manchester united could still rise and finished at the top 5 in domestic league and beat the odds against psg. as long as all the players play it with passion , not just money.

The problem is that all of them has no passion as much as cristiano and it affect a lot to the outcome.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on February 12, 2022, 01:34:29 PM

If Ronaldo was not in the Manchester United squad then I think everything would have been a little better for both Manchester United and Ronaldo himself,

because in any other team, I don't think that the fans and the media or anyone would have complained if Ronaldo tried his level best to do something for the team, and here we have everyone saying that Ronaldo is the problem, that is absolutely outrageous. I mean if you have a Lamborghini and you cannot drive, it's your fault, not the cars.

This happens because indeed they have often seen good matches from Ronaldo and it will be very difficult to accept when their performance declines.
It's the same as seeing players like Mbappe, Neymar and Messi underperform.
The expectations of football fans and fans are sometimes too high even though not every match these players can show their best performance

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on February 12, 2022, 01:34:29 PM

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Quote from: joker_josue on February 11, 2022, 01:24:30 PM

Quote from: tyz on February 11, 2022, 01:14:20 PM

Ronaldo still has the quality to make the difference. However, he is also a problem for his teams, as the tactics and style of play have to be heavily tuned to him in order for him to shine, and that is not necessarily the best tactic for the team. You noticed that at Juventus and you're noticing it now at ManU. I think the team would be better overall if Ronaldo wasn't part of the team.

How can Ronaldo be considered a problem in the squad? When a team has a player like Ronaldo, it is up to the coach to design the best strategy, so that the set can work correctly. So the problem at Juventus and now at Man United is not Ronaldo, but the lack of a technical team capable of putting together a team that knows how to play with Ronaldo.

When a team has a player like Cristiano Ronaldo in its composition, it's still not a problem, but rather an additional trump card that needs to be used. But if such a trump card cannot be used, then this is really a problem Wink

But the problem is not Ronaldo, but the problem of the level of the team and the skill of the head coach of the team. By the way, Ronaldo does not appear in all Manchester United matches this season and not always from the very beginning of the match and it cannot be said that he looks better at the same time. Therefore, to say that Manchester United would be better without Ronaldo is not entirely correct. It is more correct to say that Manchester United could be both better and worse without Ronaldo Wink

If Ronaldo was not in the Manchester United squad then I think everything would have been a little better for both Manchester United and Ronaldo himself,

because in any other team, I don't think that the fans and the media or anyone would have complained if Ronaldo tried his level best to do something for the team, and here we have everyone saying that Ronaldo is the problem, that is absolutely outrageous. I mean if you have a Lamborghini and you cannot drive, it's your fault, not the cars.

No one has scored more goals in the Champions League than Ronaldo. has a lot of experience and is a player who can decide a game on his own, even at times when the team is not well in the game. only needs 2 chances and that are often 2 goals. We can draw a better conclusion if United have played next week.

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Quote from: AndySt on February 11, 2022, 06:34:14 PM

Quote from: joker_josue on February 11, 2022, 01:24:30 PM

Quote from: tyz on February 11, 2022, 01:14:20 PM

Ronaldo still has the quality to make the difference. However, he is also a problem for his teams, as the tactics and style of play have to be heavily tuned to him in order for him to shine, and that is not necessarily the best tactic for the team. You noticed that at Juventus and you're noticing it now at ManU. I think the team would be better overall if Ronaldo wasn't part of the team.

How can Ronaldo be considered a problem in the squad? When a team has a player like Ronaldo, it is up to the coach to design the best strategy, so that the set can work correctly. So the problem at Juventus and now at Man United is not Ronaldo, but the lack of a technical team capable of putting together a team that knows how to play with Ronaldo.

When a team has a player like Cristiano Ronaldo in its composition, it's still not a problem, but rather an additional trump card that needs to be used. But if such a trump card cannot be used, then this is really a problem Wink

But the problem is not Ronaldo, but the problem of the level of the team and the skill of the head coach of the team. By the way, Ronaldo does not appear in all Manchester United matches this season and not always from the very beginning of the match and it cannot be said that he looks better at the same time. Therefore, to say that Manchester United would be better without Ronaldo is not entirely correct. It is more correct to say that Manchester United could be both better and worse without Ronaldo Wink

If Ronaldo was not in the Manchester United squad then I think everything would have been a little better for both Manchester United and Ronaldo himself,

because in any other team, I don't think that the fans and the media or anyone would have complained if Ronaldo tried his level best to do something for the team, and here we have everyone saying that Ronaldo is the problem, that is absolutely outrageous. I mean if you have a Lamborghini and you cannot drive, it's your fault, not the cars.

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