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Quote from: hahay on February 12, 2022, 04:48:46 AM

In a team, of course, competition to appear better is natural, because that way players will also get more playing minutes. At Manchester United I think it happened, but this mess wasn't because of Ronaldo because before Ronaldo came back, the fact was that Manchester United had been in chaos and it was evident from the several coach changes that were made. Now the team's condition is not even good even though Manchester United has great players, the match against Atletico will certainly be a tough task considering Manchester United's current condition is not getting better.

I would say that Ronaldo is not the cause but he is not helpful neither. I mean he plays so many games and he does score in some easy games but he is not the Ronaldo we all remember neither, if you remove all the penalties that he scored, how many games he has with at least one goal?

I am not asking how many goals he has, I am asking the amount of games he has scored, that is not really good for a striker in premier league. All in all he is definitely not the problem for sure but he is not the solution neither.

I personally believe that if he weren't bought and someone else did, then they could have reached a better result as well but if we were to replace anyone for a bigger impact, maguire is definitely the worst.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on February 12, 2022, 12:14:26 PM

Well, I wouldn't say that in terms don't having any chance. Google says that Inter Milan has a 28 percent chance of winning. And to be honest that's the first place where I saw interning some chances otherwise I don't think any people are going to give them any chances because Liverpool is just better.

I also think that Liverpool will win, but don't underestimate Inter. It often happens that a flamboyant and a lot of attacking team can not do anything with a team that focuses on defense. This scenario may repeat itself here. By the way, now Inter is losing to its main rival Napoli. Before that, they already had a couple of unsuccessful matches. It will be funny if it really turns into a series and games with Liverpool will be part of it.

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Quote from: Furious 7 on February 12, 2022, 08:42:58 AM

I can almost say that Liverpool can already win this game Cheesy

In the match between Inter and Liverpool I felt it was quite a difficult thing. Apart from its opponents, who are indeed quite different, Inter are also faced with a schedule that is indeed quite solid and faces a team that is arguably not easy.
They apart from facing Liverpool in the UCL they are also faced with several Big Matches in Serie a.
I think Inter might have to bury their dream in the UCL.

I think Liverpool versus Inter is going to be an interesting match, And yes I am talking about being interested in how many goals will Liverpool win by

. Liverpool should be the winner from this match end I don't think there will be any argument about that.

Quote from: Daniel91 on February 12, 2022, 09:31:14 AM

Ok, I agree that Liverpool is the favorite in this match but I would not really say that the winner has already been decided and that Inter has no chance.
We have seen much bigger surprises in the Champions League so far, and who could have expected that Chelsea in the competition of PSG, Manchester City, Bayern ... will eventually become European champions last season?
The main players of Liverpool, Salah and Mane, have just returned from the African Championship and are probably still tired and not ready enough.
If Brozovic and Perisic will play at a top level, Inter certainly has a chance to win.

Well, I wouldn't say that in terms don't having any chance. Google says that Inter Milan has a 28 percent chance of winning. And to be honest that's the first place where I saw interning some chances otherwise I don't think any people are going to give them any chances because Liverpool is just better.

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Quote from: joker_josue on February 12, 2022, 09:49:16 AM

Quote from: Velvet78 on February 12, 2022, 06:16:14 AM

By the way, I don't think that the Inter - Liverpool matchup is going to be very competitive. There is a chance for Inter to show their best performance in Giuseppe Meazza but that's all. I don't think that they will be able to fight back against Liverpool in Anfield in any way. Liverpool would aim to get a good result like a win by one goal or a draw. And they would dominate the second leg and destroy their opponent as a result. Inter are very good in the Serie A but I don't see them good enough to be able to eliminate Liverpool.

At the beginning of the season, few believed that Inter was capable of going beyond the group stage and continuing in the Champions League. They are performing better than expected.

Now against Liverpool it will be more difficult for them to win the tie. Even if Liverpool don't win in Italy, they will definitely win at home. Of course Inter will give everything, but I think it will be very difficult for them to win.

Inter Milan may be able to draw at home against Liverpool, but I don't think they will be able to win. Liverpool is a very strong team. They have a strong squad, as well as experienced coaches. Their match strategy is excellent. Inter Milan is now quite irregular. At the same time, they may be focusing more on the Serie A title now.

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Quote from: mardaed on February 12, 2022, 11:31:29 AM

Salah did well in the Africa cup in itself. Considering how wildly wild there is, it's actually a miracle that he didn't get injured. With Mane, for example, it didn't matter much. Liverpool with mane and salah or without these 2 giants, that he is the difference between winning and losing against Inter. We will see Wednesday how it is going. Liverpool favorite to advance.

But Inter Milan are also in good form, in the League they are very good although still overshadowed by Napoli and Milan. But Liverpool have the advantage, because they will face a relegation team in the League before competing in the Champions League. In contrast to Inter who had to undergo a tough match against Napoli, they must have had a bit of a drain on their stamina before finally having to compete in the Champions League.

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Salah did well in the Africa cup in itself. Considering how wildly wild there is, it's actually a miracle that he didn't get injured. With Mane, for example, it didn't matter much. Liverpool with mane and salah or without these 2 giants, that he is the difference between winning and losing against Inter. We will see Wednesday how it is going. Liverpool favorite to advance.

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Quote from: DU18 on February 12, 2022, 08:31:52 AM

Quote from: Velvet78 on February 12, 2022, 06:16:14 AM

By the way, I don't think that the Inter - Liverpool matchup is going to be very competitive. There is a chance for Inter to show their best performance in Giuseppe Meazza but that's all. I don't think that they will be able to fight back against Liverpool in Anfield in any way. Liverpool would aim to get a good result like a win by one goal or a draw. And they would dominate the second leg and destroy their opponent as a result. Inter are very good in the Serie A but I don't see them good enough to be able to eliminate Liverpool.

Liverpool have a pretty good record this season against Serie A teams, in the group phase Liverpool managed to beat AC Milan both home and away, I think this factor is a lucky one for Liverpool when they face Inter Milan in the middle of this week, a pretty interesting match but Liverpool are still without a complete squad with the absence of Mane and Salah in front of the Liverpool striker. But Inter Milan has the advantage in the domestic league because it plays early this week and has enough rest time compared to Liverpool who play tomorrow night.

Didn't Salah return to the team and even played in the Leicester game yesterday even though it was only as a substitute for Firmino?
I think for now Liverpool are still quite good even though Mane is still in Senegal because they still have quite talented players even now their New recruits are playing quite well and Elliott has returned to the squad I don't think it's too much of a problem with their current squad this and indeed Inter have no chance at the moment

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Quote from: hahay on February 12, 2022, 04:48:46 AM

Quote from: tulusikhlas on February 12, 2022, 04:13:39 AM

Quote from: tyz on February 11, 2022, 01:14:20 PM

Ronaldo still has the quality to make the difference. However, he is also a problem for his teams, as the tactics and style of play have to be heavily tuned to him in order for him to shine, and that is not necessarily the best tactic for the team. You noticed that at Juventus and you're noticing it now at ManU. I think the team would be better overall if Ronaldo wasn't part of the team.

I don't think Ronaldo is the problem at Manchester United. There are several names that should be mentioned as obstacles, Greenwood, Frederico Rodrigues and Maguire. Greenwood, he is too selfish in team play, Maguire always makes mistakes that lead to fatal for Manchester. I've seen in some games it's always those names that come up for his mistakes.

In a team, of course, competition to appear better is natural, because that way players will also get more playing minutes. At Manchester United I think it happened, but this mess wasn't because of Ronaldo because before Ronaldo came back, the fact was that Manchester United had been in chaos and it was evident from the several coach changes that were made. Now the team's condition is not even good even though Manchester United has great players, the match against Atletico will certainly be a tough task considering Manchester United's current condition is not getting better.

If anyone asks me I really don't see how Manchester United is going to win against Atletico Madrid because the way they are playing right now is absolutely painful to the eyes. They look like a bunch of grown men running into the field aimlessly.
And after that, if somehow they get the ball every player feels like they have to pull out some mesmerizing play and score the gold by himself which obviously cannot be any type of solution.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on February 12, 2022, 06:16:14 AM

By the way, I don't think that the Inter - Liverpool matchup is going to be very competitive. There is a chance for Inter to show their best performance in Giuseppe Meazza but that's all. I don't think that they will be able to fight back against Liverpool in Anfield in any way. Liverpool would aim to get a good result like a win by one goal or a draw. And they would dominate the second leg and destroy their opponent as a result. Inter are very good in the Serie A but I don't see them good enough to be able to eliminate Liverpool.

At the beginning of the season, few believed that Inter was capable of going beyond the group stage and continuing in the Champions League. They are performing better than expected.

Now against Liverpool it will be more difficult for them to win the tie. Even if Liverpool don't win in Italy, they will definitely win at home. Of course Inter will give everything, but I think it will be very difficult for them to win.

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Quote from: Furious 7 on February 12, 2022, 08:42:58 AM

Quote from: Velvet78 on February 12, 2022, 06:16:14 AM

By the way, I don't think that the Inter - Liverpool matchup is going to be very competitive. There is a chance for Inter to show their best performance in Giuseppe Meazza but that's all. I don't think that they will be able to fight back against Liverpool in Anfield in any way. Liverpool would aim to get a good result like a win by one goal or a draw. And they would dominate the second leg and destroy their opponent as a result. Inter are very good in the Serie A but I don't see them good enough to be able to eliminate Liverpool.

I can almost say that Liverpool can already win this game Cheesy

In the match between Inter and Liverpool I felt it was quite a difficult thing. Apart from its opponents, who are indeed quite different, Inter are also faced with a schedule that is indeed quite solid and faces a team that is arguably not easy.
They apart from facing Liverpool in the UCL they are also faced with several Big Matches in Serie a.
I think Inter might have to bury their dream in the UCL.

Ok, I agree that Liverpool is the favorite in this match but I would not really say that the winner has already been decided and that Inter has no chance.
We have seen much bigger surprises in the Champions League so far, and who could have expected that Chelsea in the competition of PSG, Manchester City, Bayern ... will eventually become European champions last season?
The main players of Liverpool, Salah and Mane, have just returned from the African Championship and are probably still tired and not ready enough.
If Brozovic and Perisic will play at a top level, Inter certainly has a chance to win.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on February 12, 2022, 06:16:14 AM

By the way, I don't think that the Inter - Liverpool matchup is going to be very competitive. There is a chance for Inter to show their best performance in Giuseppe Meazza but that's all. I don't think that they will be able to fight back against Liverpool in Anfield in any way. Liverpool would aim to get a good result like a win by one goal or a draw. And they would dominate the second leg and destroy their opponent as a result. Inter are very good in the Serie A but I don't see them good enough to be able to eliminate Liverpool.

I can almost say that Liverpool can already win this game Cheesy

In the match between Inter and Liverpool I felt it was quite a difficult thing. Apart from its opponents, who are indeed quite different, Inter are also faced with a schedule that is indeed quite solid and faces a team that is arguably not easy.
They apart from facing Liverpool in the UCL they are also faced with several Big Matches in Serie a.
I think Inter might have to bury their dream in the UCL.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on February 12, 2022, 06:16:14 AM

By the way, I don't think that the Inter - Liverpool matchup is going to be very competitive. There is a chance for Inter to show their best performance in Giuseppe Meazza but that's all. I don't think that they will be able to fight back against Liverpool in Anfield in any way. Liverpool would aim to get a good result like a win by one goal or a draw. And they would dominate the second leg and destroy their opponent as a result. Inter are very good in the Serie A but I don't see them good enough to be able to eliminate Liverpool.

Liverpool have a pretty good record this season against Serie A teams, in the group phase Liverpool managed to beat AC Milan both home and away, I think this factor is a lucky one for Liverpool when they face Inter Milan in the middle of this week, a pretty interesting match but Liverpool are still without a complete squad with the absence of Mane and Salah in front of the Liverpool striker. But Inter Milan has the advantage in the domestic league because it plays early this week and has enough rest time compared to Liverpool who play tomorrow night.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on February 12, 2022, 06:16:14 AM

By the way, I don't think that the Inter - Liverpool matchup is going to be very competitive. There is a chance for Inter to show their best performance in Giuseppe Meazza but that's all. I don't think that they will be able to fight back against Liverpool in Anfield in any way. Liverpool would aim to get a good result like a win by one goal or a draw. And they would dominate the second leg and destroy their opponent as a result. Inter are very good in the Serie A but I don't see them good enough to be able to eliminate Liverpool.

I also do not think Inter will eliminate Liverpool, neither do I agree with you that Liverpool will destroy Inter Milan in any of the two legs, the match is going to be very much competitive, this is the knockout stage of the CL, and every team usually comes out with a positive mindset, whether they are underdogs or not. Inter Milan are the champions of Italy and they are definitely not a small team, Liverpool have to be weary of the threat Inter can pose, I'm pretty sure Klopp would point that out to his players, as well as crush any iota of complacency within the team prior to this game.

Quote from: tulusikhlas on February 12, 2022, 04:13:39 AM

I don't think Ronaldo is the problem at Manchester United.

I don't think so too, I believe United's problem is far bigger than just one player, it's a collective thing, few months ago, quite a lot of fans placed the blame on OGS, now that he has been fired and performances haven't improved, many people seem to have changed their opinion that the manger is the problem with the team, personally I think United have absolutely lost their big team mentality, they now go into games like they are underdogs, their morale is flat on the ground and it's going to take a lot for them to regain their erstwhile predatory status.

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By the way, I don't think that the Inter - Liverpool matchup is going to be very competitive. There is a chance for Inter to show their best performance in Giuseppe Meazza but that's all. I don't think that they will be able to fight back against Liverpool in Anfield in any way. Liverpool would aim to get a good result like a win by one goal or a draw. And they would dominate the second leg and destroy their opponent as a result. Inter are very good in the Serie A but I don't see them good enough to be able to eliminate Liverpool.

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on February 12, 2022, 04:13:39 AM

Quote from: tyz on February 11, 2022, 01:14:20 PM

Ronaldo still has the quality to make the difference. However, he is also a problem for his teams, as the tactics and style of play have to be heavily tuned to him in order for him to shine, and that is not necessarily the best tactic for the team. You noticed that at Juventus and you're noticing it now at ManU. I think the team would be better overall if Ronaldo wasn't part of the team.

I don't think Ronaldo is the problem at Manchester United. There are several names that should be mentioned as obstacles, Greenwood, Frederico Rodrigues and Maguire. Greenwood, he is too selfish in team play, Maguire always makes mistakes that lead to fatal for Manchester. I've seen in some games it's always those names that come up for his mistakes.

In a team, of course, competition to appear better is natural, because that way players will also get more playing minutes. At Manchester United I think it happened, but this mess wasn't because of Ronaldo because before Ronaldo came back, the fact was that Manchester United had been in chaos and it was evident from the several coach changes that were made. Now the team's condition is not even good even though Manchester United has great players, the match against Atletico will certainly be a tough task considering Manchester United's current condition is not getting better.

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Quote from: tyz on February 11, 2022, 01:14:20 PM

Ronaldo still has the quality to make the difference. However, he is also a problem for his teams, as the tactics and style of play have to be heavily tuned to him in order for him to shine, and that is not necessarily the best tactic for the team. You noticed that at Juventus and you're noticing it now at ManU. I think the team would be better overall if Ronaldo wasn't part of the team.

I don't think Ronaldo is the problem at Manchester United. There are several names that should be mentioned as obstacles, Greenwood, Frederico Rodrigues and Maguire. Greenwood, he is too selfish in team play, Maguire always makes mistakes that lead to fatal for Manchester. I've seen in some games it's always those names that come up for his mistakes.

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Quote from: Fesatmas on February 12, 2022, 03:15:15 AM

Quote from: DU18 on February 11, 2022, 10:59:22 AM

I know on the field played by 11 player but with Manchester United right now have different games style and looks focus when attacking counter for Ronaldo as scoring goal, maybe Manchester United need to change game play who ever have bigger chance to score can make goal without have to focus as cristiano ronaldo always for scoring goal. Maybe Manchester United need try playing without have Ronaldo as starting eleven team and use Cavani as target men.

one squad and playing is teamwork, it doesn't have to focus on only one player who is considered a player who has the potential to score goals. All have their respective duties to continue to maintain the game. So Ronaldo, who is now always covered in his movements, therefore provides opportunities for others to be a good anticipation when Ronaldo is in a closed position. The point is the cohesiveness of a solid team and help each other according to the sector in which they are placed.

It is never possible to consistently perform well if you depend on a particular player. Despite Manchester United's strong squad, they still rely on Ronaldo. If every Manchester United player tries to play well in their own place, their performance will be further improved. For this, their coach should make the players more confident. Manchester United players lack confidence.

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Quote from: DU18 on February 11, 2022, 10:59:22 AM

I know on the field played by 11 player but with Manchester United right now have different games style and looks focus when attacking counter for Ronaldo as scoring goal, maybe Manchester United need to change game play who ever have bigger chance to score can make goal without have to focus as cristiano ronaldo always for scoring goal. Maybe Manchester United need try playing without have Ronaldo as starting eleven team and use Cavani as target men.

one squad and playing is teamwork, it doesn't have to focus on only one player who is considered a player who has the potential to score goals. All have their respective duties to continue to maintain the game. So Ronaldo, who is now always covered in his movements, therefore provides opportunities for others to be a good anticipation when Ronaldo is in a closed position. The point is the cohesiveness of a solid team and help each other according to the sector in which they are placed.

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Quote from: kro55 on February 11, 2022, 12:26:57 PM

Quote from: Mr.Scott on February 11, 2022, 12:06:41 PM

All of Messi, Neymar and Mbappe will be available against Real Madrid. Does Real Madrid is in danger? PSG's trio are going to keep another clean sheet? Real Madrid have Benzema, Vinicius and Hazard with world-class midfield. Benzema and Vinicius alone has scored more goals than them all combined in this season all competitions, just be humble kiddos. It's very true they suffered against Man City. Let's see on 15th February.

The trio of Messi, Neymar and Mbappe will try their best to play well in this match. As we have seen in Barcelona, the chemistry between Messi and Neymar is excellent. So again against Real Madrid I want to see better performances from these two players. At the same time Ramos will play against Real Madrid in this match. Ramos is well aware of the weaknesses at Real Madrid. So in this match I will definitely keep the PSG team ahead.
Real Madrid's most important player Benzema is still injured. It is unknown at this time what he will do after leaving the post.

Maybe still not completed with Neymar need recovery after long time injury, will be the formation last night when PSG defeated Renner 1-0 where have trio Xavi Simons, Lionel Messi and Mbappe but still could change with Simos position replace by Mauro Icardi or Angel Di Maria where become reunion with Real Madrid. Defender I think without Ramos when PSG faced Real Madrid because he looks not get regular position with Pocchetino.

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A coach will always draft Ronaldo. In the end, it's all about the sporty aspect. And if there are problems with a star game, surely they should never be so big that they are not drafted? We've been hearing a lot about transgressive behavior lately, I think that's a different case. But coaches often have a big ego, and so does Ronaldo. That can sometimes clash.

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