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Quote from: joker_josue on December 27, 2021, 06:37:45 AM

Quote from: blackened515 on December 26, 2021, 10:04:51 PM

Chelsea's performance lately have been unstable, and it will be very difficult for them to win the Champion League trophy again this season. Although, am not underestimating them, this is Football and anything can happen. But, I don't think they can probably be the winner this season. However, their Round 16 matches will be against Lille. While in terms of squad strength, Chelsea are more stronger compared to Lille, which means if Chelsea are well prepared. They will surely beat Lille.

I think Chelsea's advantage is that, the next game will be against Lille. Last year, they only started to have good games in the finals of the season, the same can happen now. So, with a more accessible game for this stage of the season, you can help your growth.

We must also not forget that Chelsea are simply the reigning cup holders in this tournament. Last season they certainly didn't start the tournament as favorites, but in the end they deserved to win. I'm not ruling out a surprise this year either. They also now have a favorable draw. You have to be lucky with draw and then be at your best 2x against a good opponent. Chelsea used to play boring football, that has changed under Lampard and now under Tuchel, and it also delivers good performances.

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Quote from: blackened515 on December 26, 2021, 10:04:51 PM

Chelsea's performance lately have been unstable, and it will be very difficult for them to win the Champion League trophy again this season. Although, am not underestimating them, this is Football and anything can happen. But, I don't think they can probably be the winner this season. However, their Round 16 matches will be against Lille. While in terms of squad strength, Chelsea are more stronger compared to Lille, which means if Chelsea are well prepared. They will surely beat Lille.

I think Chelsea's advantage is that, the next game will be against Lille. Last year, they only started to have good games in the finals of the season, the same can happen now. So, with a more accessible game for this stage of the season, you can help your growth.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on December 26, 2021, 02:46:56 PM

One of the things I'm curious about is whether Chelsea would become the winner of the Champions League two times in a row. But it doesn't seem to me like a big possibility. Even in the last season, it was surprising for most people to see Chelsea winning the Champions League title. Because teams like PSG, Manchester City etc. were performing much bigger than them. But they had a very great discipline that they still were the champions at the end.

Chelsea's performance lately have been unstable, and it will be very difficult for them to win the Champion League trophy again this season. Although, am not underestimating them, this is Football and anything can happen. But, I don't think they can probably be the winner this season. However, their Round 16 matches will be against Lille. While in terms of squad strength, Chelsea are more stronger compared to Lille, which means if Chelsea are well prepared. They will surely beat Lille.

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Quote from: Balmain on December 26, 2021, 04:14:31 PM

Quote from: Pulsar77 on December 26, 2021, 02:46:56 PM

One of the things I'm curious about is whether Chelsea would become the winner of the Champions League two times in a row. But it doesn't seem to me like a big possibility. Even in the last season, it was surprising for most people to see Chelsea winning the Champions League title. Because teams like PSG, Manchester City etc. were performing much bigger than them. But they had a very great discipline that they still were the champions at the end.

I didn't even think it was possible for Chelsea to become champions last year, but they did. They are really very disciplined. I'm not giving the same odds this year, but I wouldn't be surprised if they become champions again. Currently in the premier league. It's really difficult for Chelsea to become champions this year. PSG and Manchester city will really push all opponents.

Actually, Paris Saint-Germain himself should win against Real Madrid and I would not call Paris Saint-Germain the undisputed favorite of this pair Wink

Of course, it will be very difficult for Chelsea to repeat their success and win the Champions League again, because in addition to the above pair, there are still such clubs as Bayern, Liverpool, Manchester City, which look at least no worse and even better in some ways, and both English clubs are ahead of Chelsea in the Premier League. If Manchester City is ahead of Chelsea in points scored, then Liverpool is ahead in lost points. However, the current rival of Chelsea, which is Lille, is not so popular and here it is Chelsea who comes out as a clear favorite to reach the next round.

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Quote from: swogerino on December 26, 2021, 04:04:11 PM

Quote from: Pulsar77 on December 26, 2021, 02:46:56 PM

One of the things I'm curious about is whether Chelsea would become the winner of the Champions League two times in a row. But it doesn't seem to me like a big possibility. Even in the last season, it was surprising for most people to see Chelsea winning the Champions League title. Because teams like PSG, Manchester City etc. were performing much bigger than them. But they had a very great discipline that they still were the champions at the end.

I can bet everything against Chelsea winning the Champions League this year,well of course this is just a saying which means that I highly doubt they can win this season.The reason is quite simple,most of the other teams are much stronger than Chelsea is,luck can not always be by your side.For example if Chelsea can face PSG eventually they based on the players quality most likely will easily win against Chelsea.Rather than discipline it was luck but also discipline in the critical games.Nah I doubt it will happen again.

Even though it is true that Chelsea are quite superior in the last 16 now but I think the next phase will be more difficult because there are indeed fewer teams and on average it is definitely a very strong team.
What you did by betting entirely on chelsea is actually not wrong but there must be a careful calculation with this coupled with the performance of chelsea which incidentally the players are still being hit by a storm of injuries

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on December 26, 2021, 02:46:56 PM

One of the things I'm curious about is whether Chelsea would become the winner of the Champions League two times in a row. But it doesn't seem to me like a big possibility. Even in the last season, it was surprising for most people to see Chelsea winning the Champions League title. Because teams like PSG, Manchester City etc. were performing much bigger than them. But they had a very great discipline that they still were the champions at the end.

I didn't even think it was possible for Chelsea to become champions last year, but they did. They are really very disciplined. I'm not giving the same odds this year, but I wouldn't be surprised if they become champions again. Currently in the premier league. It's really difficult for Chelsea to become champions this year. PSG and Manchester city will really push all opponents.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on December 26, 2021, 02:46:56 PM

One of the things I'm curious about is whether Chelsea would become the winner of the Champions League two times in a row. But it doesn't seem to me like a big possibility. Even in the last season, it was surprising for most people to see Chelsea winning the Champions League title. Because teams like PSG, Manchester City etc. were performing much bigger than them. But they had a very great discipline that they still were the champions at the end.

I can bet everything against Chelsea winning the Champions League this year,well of course this is just a saying which means that I highly doubt they can win this season.The reason is quite simple,most of the other teams are much stronger than Chelsea is,luck can not always be by your side.For example if Chelsea can face PSG eventually they based on the players quality most likely will easily win against Chelsea.Rather than discipline it was luck but also discipline in the critical games.Nah I doubt it will happen again.

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One of the things I'm curious about is whether Chelsea would become the winner of the Champions League two times in a row. But it doesn't seem to me like a big possibility. Even in the last season, it was surprising for most people to see Chelsea winning the Champions League title. Because teams like PSG, Manchester City etc. were performing much bigger than them. But they had a very great discipline that they still were the champions at the end.

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Considering this possibility, there is an idea to make a long-term bet on the underdog right now. The coefficient per underdog should not fall much lower even if there is in quarantine. But the coefficient for the favorite will rise greatly if the quarantine happens there. Thus, if this happens, then you can make a counter bet to your first bet and be guaranteed to be in the black. Hmm ... I think this is an interesting idea.

It would be very profitable to do that but now it seems that if this happens it will be very difficult to predict which team is suitable for placing bets, on the other hand this is an advantage for teams in other leagues which are still very safe compared to the EPL which in fact now it is in a dangerous stage because there are already several clubs that have been affected by covid and it is not impossible that things like this will continue there.

To understand which team is worth betting on (which team is most susceptible to quarantine or something similar), you just need to remember where we saw the most insane covid restrictions. I think it's obvious that these are England, Italy and Germany. Considering that as many as 7 clubs from these countries play in the 1/8 finals, the choice is quite good.

Thank you for the advice you gave.
this is indeed risky but it never hurts to try because indeed if you look at the data and facts that are currently available, of course this is something very good to pay attention to.
On the other hand, there may be surprises when the restrictions and quarantine are still in effect.
but on the other hand it is also very difficult to predict how it will go because even if it is profitable for betting it is not profitable to watch

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Quote from: jakdanyel on December 25, 2021, 03:52:08 PM

Quote from: Smartprofit on December 23, 2021, 10:13:09 AM

Ralph Rangnick is a great coach (manager).

He is both a practitioner and a theorist. This is the German approach to coaching - pedantry, organization, high dedication. He is obsessed with coaching. Players under his leadership realize themselves 100 percent. The game will be systemic.

Each player will become a soldier who will contribute to the victory of the football team. United will become one of the most organized football teams.

Active pressure from attacking players is the main feature of Ralph Rangnick's coaching work.

It would be really perfect to see the Manchester United players abiding by certain rules and achieving big successes thanks to Rangnick. But this would take some time of course. Because Rangnick would like to apply the German discipline which is not a thing that Manchester United are familiar with. But if he manages to become successful about this, then we might start watching a much stronger team. I really want to see Manchester United coming back to their old good days as soon as possible.

It's undeniable that Manchester United need a coach like in the Sir Alex Ferguson era, and I see that figure now in Ralf Rangnick. Now Ralf Rangnick is contracted for only half a season. Hopefully Ralf Rangnick gives the best results for Manchester United so that management can extend his contract to restore the glory days of Manchester United.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on December 25, 2021, 04:20:28 PM

Sometimes a team can change their performance, so we cannot judge Liverpool will beat Inter Milan easily because Inter didn't look good in the group stage. Basically, Inter Milan has many talented players in their squad, they probably can make Liverpool players be in trouble if they play with their best. But if we consider the quality of the coach, Liverpool should be better. Jürgen Klopp is an experienced and smart coach who always made a difference during the match. While Inter Milan coach, looks to have less experience, especially in the UCL league.

At the moment everyone seems to be saying Liverpool are the favourites, but considering the last 16 match will be played in February, let's pray that both teams can play without any problems as Covid cases continue to rise in England.

Having Salah in the team has made a lot of people seem very confident that Liverpool will win easily against Inter but anything is still possible for both teams as all players in the Premier League at the moment are at greater risk of getting covid so if Salah had to leave because of covid then the situation would be changed. Let's see what this team can do during January, there is a possibility that the English team will experience a bit of fatigue with a lot of match.

I hope all team can play without any problem like Covid 19 and all player must be fit on champion league begin middle week of February, still many change of player composition team because few days later window transfer opening although still looks lonely about which one player will move from one club to other club. How ever Liverpool right now as favorite can pass next stage faced with Inter Milan but never forget what pandemic happening right now make player composition changed, maybe have few important player from Liverpool get covid 19 and can give change different result.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on December 25, 2021, 04:20:28 PM

Sometimes a team can change their performance, so we cannot judge Liverpool will beat Inter Milan easily because Inter didn't look good in the group stage. Basically, Inter Milan has many talented players in their squad, they probably can make Liverpool players be in trouble if they play with their best. But if we consider the quality of the coach, Liverpool should be better. Jürgen Klopp is an experienced and smart coach who always made a difference during the match. While Inter Milan coach, looks to have less experience, especially in the UCL league.

At the moment everyone seems to be saying Liverpool are the favourites, but considering the last 16 match will be played in February, let's pray that both teams can play without any problems as Covid cases continue to rise in England.

Having Salah in the team has made a lot of people seem very confident that Liverpool will win easily against Inter but anything is still possible for both teams as all players in the Premier League at the moment are at greater risk of getting covid so if Salah had to leave because of covid then the situation would be changed. Let's see what this team can do during January, there is a possibility that the English team will experience a bit of fatigue with a lot of match.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on December 25, 2021, 04:20:28 PM

Sometimes a team can change their performance, so we cannot judge Liverpool will beat Inter Milan easily because Inter didn't look good in the group stage. Basically, Inter Milan has many talented players in their squad, they probably can make Liverpool players be in trouble if they play with their best. But if we consider the quality of the coach, Liverpool should be better. Jürgen Klopp is an experienced and smart coach who always made a difference during the match. While Inter Milan coach, looks to have less experience, especially in the UCL league.

That's true, in football anything can happen. That's true, in football anything can happen. For example, Bayer Munich, this season lost in the German Cup, with Monchengladbach by 5-0.

Now, taking into account that it will be a two-legged game, as much as Inter may try to surprise, overall Liverpool are superior. It will be very difficult for Inter to play against Liverpool, it can happen, but I think it's difficult.

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PSG vs. Real, Villarreal vs. Juve, Atletico vs. ManU are very unpredictable pairs, I'll wait a real rumble there...In each other pairs I can see a clear favorite, excluding, maybe, Benfica vs. Ajax.

The PSG Vs Real Madrid match will be an interesting match. The two teams are in good shape. PSG are leading in the Ligue 1 standings, while Real Madrid on the other hand are also leading in the La Liga standings. Is quite hard to predict who wins, but I think many goals will probably be scored. Atletico Madrid will have a tough match against Manchester United. Atletico Madrid have to play this match carefully to avoid losing, Because Manchester United focus are mainly on their Champion League matches. However, the Round 16 will indeed be very interesting, and I can't wait.

Real madrid I think will be seeded in this match because even though they are both top of the table in their respective league positions but on the other hand there is a stark difference in their performance in the UCL and even compared to their team I prefer to wait to see Sergio against his teammates first.
On the other hand, Athletico is again faced with a team in which there is Cristiano, it is very interesting how in some of the previous UCL matches they were always eliminated with a team in which there was Cristiano as a player.

I think when Atletico Madrid sees that Cristiano Ronaldo is playing against them in any match its over for them.Maybe this time Atletico can win against Ronaldo but Atletico Madrid is in a bad form lately but still a lot to go until this duel.Real Madrid vs PSG will be really intresting i cant wait to watch that match.

Cristiano is like a curse to them right now Cheesy

I remember very well when Real madrid beat Atletico in the UCL final and there was a goal from Cristiano, besides that last season when Cristiano was in Juventus uniform he even scored a hat trick and made an amazing comeback.
Now they have to meet again with Cristiano who is at Manchester United.
Will Ronaldo's curse still work for Atletico or can they make a big difference by beating Manchester United? It's worth the wait

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Quote from: TopT3ns on December 24, 2021, 08:24:31 PM

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Sometimes a team can change their performance, so we cannot judge Liverpool will beat Inter Milan easily because Inter didn't look good in the group stage. Basically, Inter Milan has many talented players in their squad, they probably can make Liverpool players be in trouble if they play with their best. But if we consider the quality of the coach, Liverpool should be better. Jürgen Klopp is an experienced and smart coach who always made a difference during the match. While Inter Milan coach, looks to have less experience, especially in the UCL league.

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Quote from: Alanaz on December 25, 2021, 11:55:08 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on December 25, 2021, 05:47:34 AM

Considering this possibility, there is an idea to make a long-term bet on the underdog right now. The coefficient per underdog should not fall much lower even if there is in quarantine. But the coefficient for the favorite will rise greatly if the quarantine happens there. Thus, if this happens, then you can make a counter bet to your first bet and be guaranteed to be in the black. Hmm ... I think this is an interesting idea.

It would be very profitable to do that but now it seems that if this happens it will be very difficult to predict which team is suitable for placing bets, on the other hand this is an advantage for teams in other leagues which are still very safe compared to the EPL which in fact now it is in a dangerous stage because there are already several clubs that have been affected by covid and it is not impossible that things like this will continue there.

To understand which team is worth betting on (which team is most susceptible to quarantine or something similar), you just need to remember where we saw the most insane covid restrictions. I think it's obvious that these are England, Italy and Germany. Considering that as many as 7 clubs from these countries play in the 1/8 finals, the choice is quite good.

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Quote from: Smartprofit on December 23, 2021, 10:13:09 AM

Ralph Rangnick is a great coach (manager).

He is both a practitioner and a theorist. This is the German approach to coaching - pedantry, organization, high dedication. He is obsessed with coaching. Players under his leadership realize themselves 100 percent. The game will be systemic.

Each player will become a soldier who will contribute to the victory of the football team. United will become one of the most organized football teams.

Active pressure from attacking players is the main feature of Ralph Rangnick's coaching work.

It would be really perfect to see the Manchester United players abiding by certain rules and achieving big successes thanks to Rangnick. But this would take some time of course. Because Rangnick would like to apply the German discipline which is not a thing that Manchester United are familiar with. But if he manages to become successful about this, then we might start watching a much stronger team. I really want to see Manchester United coming back to their old good days as soon as possible.

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Quote from: izsara on December 25, 2021, 03:03:14 PM

Quote from: blackened515 on December 24, 2021, 11:57:39 PM

Quote from: WButler89 on December 24, 2021, 12:23:49 PM

PSG vs. Real, Villarreal vs. Juve, Atletico vs. ManU are very unpredictable pairs, I'll wait a real rumble there...In each other pairs I can see a clear favorite, excluding, maybe, Benfica vs. Ajax.

The PSG Vs Real Madrid match will be an interesting match. The two teams are in good shape. PSG are leading in the Ligue 1 standings, while Real Madrid on the other hand are also leading in the La Liga standings. Is quite hard to predict who wins, but I think many goals will probably be scored. Atletico Madrid will have a tough match against Manchester United. Atletico Madrid have to play this match carefully to avoid losing, Because Manchester United focus are mainly on their Champion League matches. However, the Round 16 will indeed be very interesting, and I can't wait.

Real madrid I think will be seeded in this match because even though they are both top of the table in their respective league positions but on the other hand there is a stark difference in their performance in the UCL and even compared to their team I prefer to wait to see Sergio against his teammates first.
On the other hand, Athletico is again faced with a team in which there is Cristiano, it is very interesting how in some of the previous UCL matches they were always eliminated with a team in which there was Cristiano as a player.

I think when Atletico Madrid sees that Cristiano Ronaldo is playing against them in any match its over for them.Maybe this time Atletico can win against Ronaldo but Atletico Madrid is in a bad form lately but still a lot to go until this duel.Real Madrid vs PSG will be really intresting i cant wait to watch that match.

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Quote from: blackened515 on December 24, 2021, 11:57:39 PM

Quote from: WButler89 on December 24, 2021, 12:23:49 PM

PSG vs. Real, Villarreal vs. Juve, Atletico vs. ManU are very unpredictable pairs, I'll wait a real rumble there...In each other pairs I can see a clear favorite, excluding, maybe, Benfica vs. Ajax.

The PSG Vs Real Madrid match will be an interesting match. The two teams are in good shape. PSG are leading in the Ligue 1 standings, while Real Madrid on the other hand are also leading in the La Liga standings. Is quite hard to predict who wins, but I think many goals will probably be scored. Atletico Madrid will have a tough match against Manchester United. Atletico Madrid have to play this match carefully to avoid losing, Because Manchester United focus are mainly on their Champion League matches. However, the Round 16 will indeed be very interesting, and I can't wait.

Real madrid I think will be seeded in this match because even though they are both top of the table in their respective league positions but on the other hand there is a stark difference in their performance in the UCL and even compared to their team I prefer to wait to see Sergio against his teammates first.
On the other hand, Athletico is again faced with a team in which there is Cristiano, it is very interesting how in some of the previous UCL matches they were always eliminated with a team in which there was Cristiano as a player.

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I'm looking forward to the Liverpool vs Inter match mainly because I expect to see dramatic matches (we know Liverpool can do that) and a lot of goals. Both teams show very high performance: Liverpool scored 50 goals in 18 EPL matches, and Inter scored 49 in 19 Serie A matches. The chances that we will see something epic like 4-3 in every match and the like are very high.

Comparing these two teams, I want to put my bet on Liverpool's victory. Both teams are stronger, but Liverpool are more stable. Their attack is now much better than before. The players are able to score regular goals. Liverpool's players have proved their worth in both the Premier League and the Champions League. Liverpool have scored the most goals in the Premier League. He has scored 50 goals in 18 matches. This number is too large. Inter Milan have scored 49 goals in 19 games. The match will be competitive, but I would expect Liverpool to win.

Yes, Liverpool are the clear favorites in this pair, I will not bet but will root for it in hope it will raise the level of drama in every next round of the Champions League. In addition, I would like Salah to have more opportunities to show himself in the international arena, given the fact that he plays for the Egyptian national team, he does not have many opportunities relative to other players.

Liverpool are favorites against almost everyone. Bayern Munich and Manchester City are only clearly better at the moment. I think those two teams are more consistent than Liverpool. It is close to each other who will win in the end. Inter Milan individually does not have a super team, but certainly in Milan they can beat anyone. It will also have a lot of influence whether the audience is allowed to be present.
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Almost all the teams in this round are good. You have to play well to get to the next round. Winning is impossible without good performance. The key players in the teams need to be healthy. If the key players are injured then their gameplay will be weak. The coach has to keep an eye on this issue. The second is to know about the weakness of the opponent. The strategy has to be sorted accordingly. If the coach is experienced, it will be easy to perform well in the match.

At this stage of the competition, there are no more weak teams. At least, normally. There are, of course, a number of teams that can never become champions. You have to be lucky with lottery tickets. Real Madrid and PSG are absolutely not happy that they have been drawn against each other. That will be a great match. PSG favorite, but Real Madrid can also just win this meeting. Ajax will be most satisfied, now against Benfica. 18 out of 6 in the group stage, I think they will also continue. Bayern Munich also drew favorably.

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