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Quote from: Pulsar77 on December 06, 2021, 04:10:32 PM

It is a big day tomorrow for Milan! It is the same for Porto and Atletico Madrid too of course. But I must admit that I'm favoring Milan in this group to advance to the next round. Grin

They are going to have a very difficult job against Liverpool even though Liverpool have guaranteed their place and the game is in San Siro. Milan have to play extra careful to achieve what they aim. They will have an important missing player in their defense, Kjaer as he's got injured. But they are still very good at attacking and scoring. They just need to focus to be able to win.

Same as me, my heart for Milan. In fact, both are the king of the champion league after Madrid, Milan has 7 trophies while Liverpool 6 trophies have collected. So, this is quite a prestigious match who is the best in Europe. Milan must watch the top score, Salah, and of course, Mane too, but I heard the news, Klopp must have to rotation player because have a suggestion from the medical department that possible the squad has different from before, this advantage should be used to get the points.

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Quote from: BOAEDAN on December 07, 2021, 12:17:37 AM

Quote from: Pulsar77 on December 06, 2021, 04:10:32 PM

It is a big day tomorrow for Milan! It is the same for Porto and Atletico Madrid too of course. But I must admit that I'm favoring Milan in this group to advance to the next round. Grin

They are going to have a very difficult job against Liverpool even though Liverpool have guaranteed their place and the game is in San Siro. Milan have to play extra careful to achieve what they aim. They will have an important missing player in their defense, Kjaer as he's got injured. But they are still very good at attacking and scoring. They just need to focus to be able to win.

It is very difficult for AC Milan to beat Liferpol, even though Liferpol can be sure to qualify for the last 16 of the champions league, and become a grub champion, but Liferpol continues to play consistently and plays well, to win tonight's match, Liferpol is determined to wipe out all matches ..

Even though I'm a Liverpool fan but I don't think it will be easy for Liverpool to win even I predict they will only draw, Liverpool face Milan at the San Siro, a team that is struggling to qualify for the next round it is very possible Milan will play very hard and fast, and very possible Klopp will secure a few key players to avoid injury.
But still bet on Liverpool is my choice and also over 2.5.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on December 06, 2021, 07:40:19 PM

Quote from: Slow death on December 06, 2021, 06:47:21 PM

Ajax Amsterdam - Sporting CP

Ajax has already passed and I doubt that he will play seriously, so why the bookmakers are giving these odds:

Ajax @1.44

Sporting @6.60

Are underestimating sporting?

It must be because that Ajax are still a much more powerful team than Sporting now even though they both secured their positions already. And there is no chance for Sporting to take the first position either. But like I said, the strength difference could be the reason. But I think that this is still a match that we can avoid certainly. Because who knows what will happen in this match. It wouldn't be surprising to see at least one of these teams rotating their squad.

I know they've both held their positions, but I think it's a big exaggeration to put Jax so far above Sporting, it's true that Sporting had those mistakes in defense that cost them 5 goals in the game against Jax, but the Sporting has improved a lot, for this game I won't make any bets and I won't even watch because it won't be funny, they won't play for real

FC Bayern Munich - FC Barcelona

FC Bayern Munich is the type of team that can take this game seriously even if they have already secured their place in the next round

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Quote from: Luzin on December 06, 2021, 03:18:16 PM

Quote from: joker_josue on December 06, 2021, 03:06:01 PM

But these good players don't last forever. And they should have prepared for their departure while looking for new players to take their place. Because they didn't do that, they are now in big trouble.

This is the mistake Koeman made earlier this season. They threw out some great players. They are very weak this season. Take Suarez, for example. Suarez played so well at Atletico that Even Koeman himself was embarrassed. Today xavi has the task of continuing that, improving Barcelona with the squad as it is now. There are great expectations for Xavi from the fans. But I'm a little doubtful because the experience as a coach is still a little bit. In addition xavi's background as a coach playing at an Asian level that I think the quality of football is still inferior to europe.

if you look at it right now, xavi is actually in a confusing situation, on the one hand he is expected to make Barcelona even better, especially for fans who still have high expectations of him, on the other hand he is faced with players which I can actually say for the moment their squad is far from luxurious and when it comes to signing the few players they need they are hampered by Barcelona's current finances.
I myself have no doubts about the quality that Xavi has, but with a squad like this I find it difficult

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on December 06, 2021, 04:10:32 PM

It is a big day tomorrow for Milan! It is the same for Porto and Atletico Madrid too of course. But I must admit that I'm favoring Milan in this group to advance to the next round. Grin

They are going to have a very difficult job against Liverpool even though Liverpool have guaranteed their place and the game is in San Siro. Milan have to play extra careful to achieve what they aim. They will have an important missing player in their defense, Kjaer as he's got injured. But they are still very good at attacking and scoring. They just need to focus to be able to win.

It is very difficult for AC Milan to beat Liferpol, even though Liferpol can be sure to qualify for the last 16 of the champions league, and become a grub champion, but Liferpol continues to play consistently and plays well, to win tonight's match, Liferpol is determined to wipe out all matches ..

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Quote from: Lordhermes on December 06, 2021, 11:29:02 PM

Quote from: Pulsar77 on December 06, 2021, 04:10:32 PM

It is a big day tomorrow for Milan! It is the same for Porto and Atletico Madrid too of course. But I must admit that I'm favoring Milan in this group to advance to the next round. Grin

They are going to have a very difficult job against Liverpool even though Liverpool have guaranteed their place and the game is in San Siro. Milan have to play extra careful to achieve what they aim. They will have an important missing player in their defense, Kjaer as he's got injured. But they are still very good at attacking and scoring. They just need to focus to be able to win.

I doubt if Liverpool will allow them win that match,because as far as I'm concerned,Liverpool is a team that is very much inform at the moment and they won't want to loose even a game.
I know Milan needs to take the game very serious,because they need the points,but I doubt if Liverpool FC will allow them win.The both teams have players that can score goals,that's why all I will be able to predict in the game is BTS.

Maybe the match from their first meeting can be a reference too, where Milan can provide resistance to Liverpool even though yesterday Milan was an away team. Previously, Milan seemed to have no hope of qualifying but in fact it was Atletico who were projected to fill the second place but they could not do their best. Now, they still have a chance to qualify and fight for the second place, so I believe Milan will be able to win in the last match of this group stage and with that I believe Milan will still qualify. Because honestly this last match is still a tough match for all teams, they still maintain their prestige and target to qualify because they have that opportunity.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on December 06, 2021, 04:10:32 PM

It is a big day tomorrow for Milan! It is the same for Porto and Atletico Madrid too of course. But I must admit that I'm favoring Milan in this group to advance to the next round. Grin

They are going to have a very difficult job against Liverpool even though Liverpool have guaranteed their place and the game is in San Siro. Milan have to play extra careful to achieve what they aim. They will have an important missing player in their defense, Kjaer as he's got injured. But they are still very good at attacking and scoring. They just need to focus to be able to win.

I doubt if Liverpool will allow them win that match,because as far as I'm concerned,Liverpool is a team that is very much inform at the moment and they won't want to loose even a game.
I know Milan needs to take the game very serious,because they need the points,but I doubt if Liverpool FC will allow them win.The both teams have players that can score goals,that's why all I will be able to predict in the game is BTS.

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Quote from: Slow death on December 06, 2021, 06:47:21 PM

Ajax Amsterdam - Sporting CP

Ajax has already passed and I doubt that he will play seriously, so why the bookmakers are giving these odds:

Ajax @1.44

Sporting @6.60

Are underestimating sporting?

It must be because that Ajax are still a much more powerful team than Sporting now even though they both secured their positions already. And there is no chance for Sporting to take the first position either. But like I said, the strength difference could be the reason. But I think that this is still a match that we can avoid certainly. Because who knows what will happen in this match. It wouldn't be surprising to see at least one of these teams rotating their squad.

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Quote from: Slow death on December 06, 2021, 06:47:21 PM

Ajax Amsterdam - Sporting CP

Ajax has already passed and I doubt that he will play seriously, so why the bookmakers are giving these odds:

Ajax @1.44

Sporting @6.60

Are underestimating sporting?

not only Ajax qualified to the next round, even Sporting did in case you didn't know, and Ajax are 1st and Sporting 2nd, this match is a friendly match, it means nothing to both of them, I don't know what to expect from it so I would recommend you avoid it, it is hard to predict who is going to win when no one need to, no motivation whatsoever to win.

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Ajax Amsterdam - Sporting CP

Ajax has already passed and I doubt that he will play seriously, so why the bookmakers are giving these odds:

Ajax @1.44

Sporting @6.60

Are underestimating sporting?

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on December 06, 2021, 04:10:32 PM

It is a big day tomorrow for Milan! It is the same for Porto and Atletico Madrid too of course. But I must admit that I'm favoring Milan in this group to advance to the next round. Grin

They are going to have a very difficult job against Liverpool even though Liverpool have guaranteed their place and the game is in San Siro. Milan have to play extra careful to achieve what they aim. They will have an important missing player in their defense, Kjaer as he's got injured. But they are still very good at attacking and scoring. They just need to focus to be able to win.

Yes, it would have been an interesting final of the fight in the group stage, when Milan, who failed the first round of the stage, miraculously reached the next stage. Another question is what Liverpool thinks about this wonderful event. I am not sure that Klopp and his players are very eager to finish the group tournament with defeat, despite the fact that all tournament tasks have already been solved at this stage. Also, do not forget in this situation that not everything depends on Milan and a lot, if not everything, will be decided in a parallel match between Atletico Madrid and Porto, who also have a great desire to continue fighting in the most prestigious competition of the Old World.

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It is a big day tomorrow for Milan! It is the same for Porto and Atletico Madrid too of course. But I must admit that I'm favoring Milan in this group to advance to the next round. Grin

They are going to have a very difficult job against Liverpool even though Liverpool have guaranteed their place and the game is in San Siro. Milan have to play extra careful to achieve what they aim. They will have an important missing player in their defense, Kjaer as he's got injured. But they are still very good at attacking and scoring. They just need to focus to be able to win.

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Quote from: ReiMomo on December 06, 2021, 12:19:05 PM

How the match is going to between Real Madrid and Inter teams in Group D tomorrow. Both teams are stronger and yes Real Madrid is really performing well consequtively. Inter as well has scored good number of goals in the recent matches. Tom.its going to be interesting and either there should a good number of goals from both teams or a tough fight to score even a goal. How many say the match would be drawn.

This match is going to be a really interesting and a good match because both the teams are in form. But I do give Real Madrid the benefit of the doubt because they are a better team for me on paper and even though I say that, both teams should score and we should see some aggressive football in my opinion. But Real Madrid always finds a way to win and they should do it tomorrow as well.

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Quote from: DU18 on December 06, 2021, 08:17:08 AM

Injury to several Barcelona players, of course it will be very confusing for Xavi in the face of life and death matches in the current champions league, now Depay will automatically become Barcelona mainstay on the front line later, with the current condition of the squad, to be honest I really doubt Barcelona will be able to win when facing Bayern Munich later and maybe even a draw will be very difficult for Barcelona to get.

You're right, maybe they'll even lose again. Munich are very strong, they also play at the Allianz Arena of course that's an advantage. Xavi certainly knows barcelona players today are not as good as when he became a barcelona player. Of course Xavi has to maximize the players who are there. Maybe the best result for Barcelona is a draw, even I'm not sure barcelona will win.

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Quote from: joker_josue on December 06, 2021, 03:06:01 PM

But these good players don't last forever. And they should have prepared for their departure while looking for new players to take their place. Because they didn't do that, they are now in big trouble.

This is the mistake Koeman made earlier this season. They threw out some great players. They are very weak this season. Take Suarez, for example. Suarez played so well at Atletico that Even Koeman himself was embarrassed. Today xavi has the task of continuing that, improving Barcelona with the squad as it is now. There are great expectations for Xavi from the fans. But I'm a little doubtful because the experience as a coach is still a little bit. In addition xavi's background as a coach playing at an Asian level that I think the quality of football is still inferior to europe.

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Quote from: Silberman on December 06, 2021, 02:44:34 PM

It is surprising but at the same time it is not, Barcelona has been dominating for so long because they had one of the best players ever, so they could get away with a lot of mistakes and still be great because Messi covered a lot of them, however now that Messi is not around anymore and they are in a bad economic shape it is understandable that Barcelona is not what it used to be, and it is going to take them some time before they can recover the position they lost as one of the best teams around the world.

I think a lot of the problems they're having right now isn't just Messi's lack, but because over the last decade they haven't managed success in the best way. Administratively speaking. They began to "sleep in the banana tree's shadow", believing that all it took was a few good players and always using the same tactic to continue to be successful.

But these good players don't last forever. And they should have prepared for their departure while looking for new players to take their place. Because they didn't do that, they are now in big trouble.

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About Barcelona vs Bayern's match if any of you think that Barcelona can qualify to the next round, I think it's better to bet in the favor of Dynamo Kiev against Benfica, I really think that Dyn Kiev has more chances to get out of the match with a draw against benfica than Barcelona to beat Bayern in Allianz Arena, so for me double chance for Dynamo Kiev with Bayern Munich to win is a good parlay if I think Barca will go to the next round.

When the Munchen have to ambitious to create achievement the perfect point to be 18, Benfica should be eligible to the next round also. Only if they won also on home, De Luz arena. This is very hard for new coach Xavy even though without the supporter on Allianz, still Bayern is very hard to anticipate, furthermore, Lewandowski is still doing good and as Top score on all event competition that possible will create a goal against Barcelona.

That is what I am thinking as well. Benfica is going to make it. Barcelona is no where near enough in shape to even take away a point from Munich. And Dynamo Kiev has no motivation to invest too much into that game because they can't achieve anything anymore. Barcelona is definitely afraid right now of what is most likely coming. Damn that has been a while that we won't see Barcelona in the final round.

It is surprising but at the same time it is not, Barcelona has been dominating for so long because they had one of the best players ever, so they could get away with a lot of mistakes and still be great because Messi covered a lot of them, however now that Messi is not around anymore and they are in a bad economic shape it is understandable that Barcelona is not what it used to be, and it is going to take them some time before they can recover the position they lost as one of the best teams around the world.

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Quote from: Ratash on December 06, 2021, 07:24:50 AM

Quote from: davis196 on December 05, 2021, 01:47:51 AM

When it comes to Bayern-Barcelona I would bet on a draw.
It's pretty obvious that Bayern is the better team,but they have done their work in the group stage and they won't be that motivated to play.Barcelona is struggling to qualify for the next round,so they will do whatever they can to win,but they lack good players,so a draw is totally possible outcome.
The team,that faces Benfica or Barcelona in the next round would be really lucky.Both Benfica and Barcelona seem like really easy opponents for the elimination phase.

True that a draw will be possible but i think bayern team will try to get barcelona out of stage group since that didnt happen for a long time and its their chance to do since they are not doing good and even if they qualify as you said i dont think they can make it far.

even a draw I doubt and still think bayern is above barcelona.
Even though they don't really need points anymore, I don't think Bayern will give points for free to Barcelona, let alone send them to the next round.
i think it will be very difficult for barcelona and i will put my bet on bayern

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Quote from: Sirait on December 06, 2021, 11:30:01 AM

benfica + bayern is a wise choice, dynamo kyiv are at their worst performance and their motivation has gone. In the other match, Bayern will beat Barca with a big score because the Allianz Arena has witnessed Barcelona being beaten by Bayern several times. Cheesy

Bayern Munich has no motivation for this match and already secured 1st spot in the table so I won't be so sure in their victory. maybe head coach will give an opportunity to play for young players.

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Liverpool same scenario but AC Milan is a club that looks to be doing well for itself. But still LFC at 3.50 to win? Draw no bet at 2.50 looks nice imho. What do you guys think?

As for the Milan - Liverpool match, I already wrote that Liverpool does not need this match, they will remain in first place even if they lose. Therefore, I assume that the second Liverpool squad will be released for this match, which Milan will possibly beat, at least this may give Milan a chance to reach the playoffs. It may sound funny, but Millan have a chance to qualify from the group, appeared only in the last match of the group stage.

Liverpool is comfortably at the top of the league, but Liverpool is a club that likes history. If they will Milan they will be the only England team to have 100% record throughout the group stage of UCL.
You see, this record looks like an honour for Liverpool if they have it.
Again, if we talk about Klopp rotating players. His second Eleven are the likes of Origi, and you know what they can do aswell.

Records aside I think Liverpool should balance some of their players who might be facing some fatigue issues. It is more important to keep players fit for the next match which is important and concentrate on the bigger prize instead of going for some record that might have just know no statistical value.
But as you said even though they play their second team I don't think that they are going to be too much of a deficit, to be honest.

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