UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread - page 533.

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Quote from: iv4n on December 06, 2021, 06:09:17 AM

With 15 points Bayern is in the next stage already... but it's Bayern, and they are playing at home, I am sure they are going for the win! On the other side, Barcelona lost their chance to secure that second place in the last game against Benfica (0:0) and now they are in a crazy situation if Benfica wins against Dinamo, and I am betting they will, even draw will not save them I guess... so Barsa has to win, but can they win? Definitely, the last two games in group E are very interesting, the fight for the runner-up position!

I am not even doubting about Benfica going to next stage at this point. There are so many things to consider. Barcelona who failed to win against Benfica, and just had a loss at la liga, the home team of Messi, will be facing against Bayern, that won all games, and beat Dortmund just recently, team of Lewa, who lost a well deserved ballon dor to Messi. I mean you can't write a better script even if you wanted to.

This is why I believe that if Bayern beats Barcelona 5-0 or something like that, it will not be a shock for me, it looks like it could very well happen and I am pretty sure that Lewa will be the main player of the match in this game as well.

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Liverpool same scenario but AC Milan is a club that looks to be doing well for itself. But still LFC at 3.50 to win? Draw no bet at 2.50 looks nice imho. What do you guys think?

As for the Milan - Liverpool match, I already wrote that Liverpool does not need this match, they will remain in first place even if they lose. Therefore, I assume that the second Liverpool squad will be released for this match, which Milan will possibly beat, at least this may give Milan a chance to reach the playoffs. It may sound funny, but Millan have a chance to qualify from the group, appeared only in the last match of the group stage.

Liverpool is comfortably at the top of the league, but Liverpool is a club that likes history. If they will Milan they will be the only England team to have 100% record throughout the group stage of UCL.
You see, this record looks like an honour for Liverpool if they have it.
Again, if we talk about Klopp rotating players. His second Eleven are the likes of Origi, and you know what they can do aswell.

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How the match is going to between Real Madrid and Inter teams in Group D tomorrow. Both teams are stronger and yes Real Madrid is really performing well consequtively. Inter as well has scored good number of goals in the recent matches. Tom.its going to be interesting and either there should a good number of goals from both teams or a tough fight to score even a goal. How many say the match would be drawn.

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Quote from: tokeweed on December 06, 2021, 11:12:46 AM

I can’t figure out why City has a decent line vs RB Leipzig. Yeah I’m aware Pep is gonna rotate players but City’s B team is still great if played vs the likes of Leipzig which isn’t doing too well in the Bundesliga.

Liverpool same scenario but AC Milan is a club that looks to be doing well for itself. But still LFC at 3.50 to win? Draw no bet at 2.50 looks nice imho. What do you guys think?

Leipzig put up a good fight at the Etihad, and City had their best lineup available that day. The germans can't speculate about the PSG - Brugge, a win is what matters tomorrow cos it means they'll have the europa league spot locked in regardless of the outcome in the other match. But, yeah, if City shows up with a strong lineup, that ML @1.9 could be good value, but keep eye on total goals, +3 goals x1.7 seems good

and i wouldn't take my chances with Liverpool, they've been playing every 3 days for the past two weeks, it's about time the main starting XI gets some proper rest. AC Milan could be a difficult test for Pool's B team cos the italians will go out and play as if this were the CL final, it's all or nothing for them so i expect them to show some spirit, get the win and hope for a miracle in the other match (by miracle i mean a draw, entirely possible in any Atletico madrid match)

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Finally we should see duo Kimmich with Leon, the best option and maybe most important thing in this match, plus Sane and Lewandowski on great form, so my prediction is again 3-0 for Bavarians.

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Quote from: tokeweed on December 06, 2021, 11:12:46 AM

Liverpool same scenario but AC Milan is a club that looks to be doing well for itself. But still LFC at 3.50 to win? Draw no bet at 2.50 looks nice imho. What do you guys think?

As for the Milan - Liverpool match, I already wrote that Liverpool does not need this match, they will remain in first place even if they lose. Therefore, I assume that the second Liverpool squad will be released for this match, which Milan will possibly beat, at least this may give Milan a chance to reach the playoffs. It may sound funny, but Millan have a chance to qualify from the group, appeared only in the last match of the group stage.

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on December 06, 2021, 11:15:16 AM

Even if Messi is still at Barcelona I'm not sure they can beat Bayern Munich, Munich is not as strong as the start of the season but Barcelona are worse than that
For parlay Munich + Benfica bet is the ideal bet maybe I can call it easy money after all this is a personal prediction I will go there, ignore it if you have doubts Grin

benfica + bayern is a wise choice, dynamo kyiv are at their worst performance and their motivation has gone. In the other match, Bayern will beat Barca with a big score because the Allianz Arena has witnessed Barcelona being beaten by Bayern several times. Cheesy

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Quote from: tyz on December 06, 2021, 10:52:54 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on December 06, 2021, 07:28:27 AM

The teams' odds are quite eloquent:
Bayern Munich FC Barcelona
1.66 - 4.70 - 4.20

SL Benfica FC Dynamo Kiev
1.32 - 5.00 - 11.00

But in fact, I would change the odds for these two pairs - I am more confident in the victory of Bavaria than in the victory of Benfica. I think that the multi-bet on favorites here looks profitable, the odds are very attractive: 2.19 If you add additional outcomes, for example, total goals, then you can achieve an even higher coefficient.

I don't see the games as clearly as the odds suggest. Bayern is not quite as strong as it was at the beginning of the season. Although Barca lost to Betis in the league, I think there can be a surprise if Xavi's work starts to bear fruit. Therefore, I would rather go for double chance Barca.
Similarly with Benfica against Kiev. Kiev has not played badly and if you would take a little risk, then I would also go on double chance Kiev.

The game will be decided by Robert Lewandowski, so I predict a Bayern Munich victory. When the odds that are referred by the betting site are good, it ultimately makes good sense to follow them up. Xavi's Barcelona also have some teething issues. It is unlikely that the Catalan club will have high hopes for the match in Munich either. Having lost at home to Betis, the fans are even more nervous about what could happen in Munich. Although Barcelona's fans don't have much expectation, they are terrified when they meet Bayern Munich.

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Quote from: tyz on December 06, 2021, 10:52:54 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on December 06, 2021, 07:28:27 AM

The teams' odds are quite eloquent:
Bayern Munich FC Barcelona
1.66 - 4.70 - 4.20

SL Benfica FC Dynamo Kiev
1.32 - 5.00 - 11.00

But in fact, I would change the odds for these two pairs - I am more confident in the victory of Bavaria than in the victory of Benfica. I think that the multi-bet on favorites here looks profitable, the odds are very attractive: 2.19 If you add additional outcomes, for example, total goals, then you can achieve an even higher coefficient.

I don't see the games as clearly as the odds suggest. Bayern is not quite as strong as it was at the beginning of the season. Although Barca lost to Betis in the league, I think there can be a surprise if Xavi's work starts to bear fruit. Therefore, I would rather go for double chance Barca.
Similarly with Benfica against Kiev. Kiev has not played badly and if you would take a little risk, then I would also go on double chance Kiev.

Even if Messi is still at Barcelona I'm not sure they can beat Bayern Munich, Munich is not as strong as the start of the season but Barcelona are worse than that
For parlay Munich + Benfica bet is the ideal bet maybe I can call it easy money after all this is a personal prediction I will go there, ignore it if you have doubts Grin

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I can’t figure out why City has a decent line vs RB Leipzig. Yeah I’m aware Pep is gonna rotate players but City’s B team is still great if played vs the likes of Leipzig which isn’t doing too well in the Bundesliga.

Liverpool same scenario but AC Milan is a club that looks to be doing well for itself. But still LFC at 3.50 to win? Draw no bet at 2.50 looks nice imho. What do you guys think?

Edit: And omg, United vs Young Boys at home could be a massacre, even with their B team. Wait for the line up, this might be fun to gamble in the goal scorer prop. Cheesy

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Quote from: KTChampions on December 06, 2021, 07:28:27 AM

The teams' odds are quite eloquent:
Bayern Munich FC Barcelona
1.66 - 4.70 - 4.20

SL Benfica FC Dynamo Kiev
1.32 - 5.00 - 11.00

But in fact, I would change the odds for these two pairs - I am more confident in the victory of Bavaria than in the victory of Benfica. I think that the multi-bet on favorites here looks profitable, the odds are very attractive: 2.19 If you add additional outcomes, for example, total goals, then you can achieve an even higher coefficient.

I don't see the games as clearly as the odds suggest. Bayern is not quite as strong as it was at the beginning of the season. Although Barca lost to Betis in the league, I think there can be a surprise if Xavi's work starts to bear fruit. Therefore, I would rather go for double chance Barca.
Similarly with Benfica against Kiev. Kiev has not played badly and if you would take a little risk, then I would also go on double chance Kiev.

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Quote from: blue Snow on December 06, 2021, 01:15:57 AM

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I hope so Bayern will devastate Barcelona. Today confirmed Fati not will play, good information so Kimmich back!

Fati got injured 4 weeks ago after Barcelona draw versus Celta Vigo, Hamstring recovery is needed about 8 weeks or over, that possible Barcelona still hasn't the best forward for the next match versus Bayern, Aguero, and lord Braithwaite are still didn't recover yet. Xavy must think hard to win the game without players who have to substitution. The only miracle to Barcelona wins in the alliance arena, while Lewandowski is very still on fire.

Injury to several Barcelona players, of course it will be very confusing for Xavi in the face of life and death matches in the current champions league, now Depay will automatically become Barcelona mainstay on the front line later, with the current condition of the squad, to be honest I really doubt Barcelona will be able to win when facing Bayern Munich later and maybe even a draw will be very difficult for Barcelona to get.

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Quote from: fullhdpixel on December 02, 2021, 04:53:48 PM

Group G will have a lot of important games for sure, Villareal and Atalanta will be important too, Barcelona vs Bayern will be "important" but I do not expect Bayern to lose at all they are just way too good. Dortmund vs Besiktas is very important for Dortmund as well but it is very unlikely for them to lose that one neither, however even if they win, and Lisbon loses, the goal difference is huge there so I doubt anything would change.

It doesn't matter as Sporting passed Dortmund already in average between these teams. Even if Dortmund get 3 points tomorrow they can't be in second place. This group is officially done, order won't change. Ajax finished as leader and Sporting go from second place. Dortmund will play in other tournament. I don't expect Dortmund to play with their %100, it's open to all outcomes. You better not make bets based on that error.

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Quote from: iv4n on December 06, 2021, 06:09:17 AM

With 15 points Bayern is in the next stage already... but it's Bayern, and they are playing at home, I am sure they are going for the win! On the other side, Barcelona lost their chance to secure that second place in the last game against Benfica (0:0) and now they are in a crazy situation if Benfica wins against Dinamo, and I am betting they will, even draw will not save them I guess... so Barsa has to win, but can they win? Definitely, the last two games in group E are very interesting, the fight for the runner-up position!

The teams' odds are quite eloquent:
Bayern Munich FC Barcelona
1.66 - 4.70 - 4.20

SL Benfica FC Dynamo Kiev
1.32 - 5.00 - 11.00

But in fact, I would change the odds for these two pairs - I am more confident in the victory of Bavaria than in the victory of Benfica. I think that the multi-bet on favorites here looks profitable, the odds are very attractive: 2.19 If you add additional outcomes, for example, total goals, then you can achieve an even higher coefficient.

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Quote from: davis196 on December 05, 2021, 01:47:51 AM

When it comes to Bayern-Barcelona I would bet on a draw.
It's pretty obvious that Bayern is the better team,but they have done their work in the group stage and they won't be that motivated to play.Barcelona is struggling to qualify for the next round,so they will do whatever they can to win,but they lack good players,so a draw is totally possible outcome.
The team,that faces Benfica or Barcelona in the next round would be really lucky.Both Benfica and Barcelona seem like really easy opponents for the elimination phase.

True that a draw will be possible but i think bayern team will try to get barcelona out of stage group since that didnt happen for a long time and its their chance to do since they are not doing good and even if they qualify as you said i dont think they can make it far.

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Quote from: joker_josue on December 06, 2021, 06:38:38 AM

Quote from: iv4n on December 06, 2021, 06:09:17 AM

now they are in a crazy situation if Benfica wins against Dinamo, and I am betting they will, even draw will not save them I guess... so Barsa has to win, but can they win? Definitely, the last two games in group E are very interesting, the fight for the runner-up position!

Benfica will want to give everything in this game, after having lost in the last game of the championship to their main rival, they will want to leave a good image against Dinamo. In addition, Benfica's coach is being heavily contested, so he needs the team to win.

Also, I find it difficult for Barcelona to beat Bayern, but in football everything is possible, but it will be difficult.

This is the decisive phase of course Benfica want to give everything in this last game so against Dynamo is a chance at the end but for Barcelona it is not.
It's interesting because what we know is that this is a fixed price to pass the opportunity not to be left behind but we have to know from the statistics as well and the luckiest is Benfica.
Bayern Munich vs Barcelona Bayern win (bet on home win.
Benfica vs Dynamo great opportunity for the hosts.

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Quote from: iv4n on December 06, 2021, 06:09:17 AM

now they are in a crazy situation if Benfica wins against Dinamo, and I am betting they will, even draw will not save them I guess... so Barsa has to win, but can they win? Definitely, the last two games in group E are very interesting, the fight for the runner-up position!

Benfica will want to give everything in this game, after having lost in the last game of the championship to their main rival, they will want to leave a good image against Dinamo. In addition, Benfica's coach is being heavily contested, so he needs the team to win.

Also, I find it difficult for Barcelona to beat Bayern, but in football everything is possible, but it will be difficult.

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About Barcelona vs Bayern's match if any of you think that Barcelona can qualify to the next round, I think it's better to bet in the favor of Dynamo Kiev against Benfica, I really think that Dyn Kiev has more chances to get out of the match with a draw against benfica than Barcelona to beat Bayern in Allianz Arena, so for me double chance for Dynamo Kiev with Bayern Munich to win is a good parlay if I think Barca will go to the next round.

I am with you For Bayern vs Barcelona. Bayern will beat Barcelona easily this time since Barcelona performance isnt good anymore since Messi left them. But for Benfica vs Dynamo Kyiv, I am a bit skeptical that Kyiv will get even a single point at this game. Benfica needs three points to beat Barcelona at the current leaderboard. So, I guess they will not waste this good opportunity.

if Bayern Munich success defeat Barcelona other match Benfica have win from Dynamo Kyiv if want get runner up position, I think Barcelona vs Bayern most interested match and Lewandoski have waiting for how to destroy Barcelona and try to make many goal. first match they can win win 4-0 and second match I think Bayern easy win about 2-0 from Barcelona.

With 15 points Bayern is in the next stage already... but it's Bayern, and they are playing at home, I am sure they are going for the win! On the other side, Barcelona lost their chance to secure that second place in the last game against Benfica (0:0) and now they are in a crazy situation if Benfica wins against Dinamo, and I am betting they will, even draw will not save them I guess... so Barsa has to win, but can they win? Definitely, the last two games in group E are very interesting, the fight for the runner-up position!

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Quote from: mv1986 on December 05, 2021, 04:18:07 PM

Even if for whatever miracle could happen they will win against Bayern Munich, I really think there is zero chance they will ever be able to compete for the CL trophy this season. No matter what giant team they are going to face, but they can't beat City, Liverpool, Bayern, PSG, they just can't.

And in La Lisa you are also right. If they make it to the top three this season, that would be one of the biggest successes in the club's history.

Right now, situation is not good for them and going to play against team like Bayern for 100% win is also just not easy but if this lost can give them some better tomorrow then surely it's not bad at all because many times we have to do things like this for better future, so they also can do this now Xavi is on but still bad results coming, and they have lost against Betis and now another tough match against Bayern after this they are going to face Osasuna in another crucial match of La Liga where now few teams having some better results and spot but about Barcelona I am sure they are going to be dropped into Europa League, and then they have to stay here for some more time because now they have very few chances for survive.

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Quote from: blue Snow on December 06, 2021, 01:15:57 AM

Quote from: marbet85 on December 05, 2021, 04:42:41 PM

I hope so Bayern will devastate Barcelona. Today confirmed Fati not will play, good information so Kimmich back!

Fati got injured 4 weeks ago after Barcelona draw versus Celta Vigo, Hamstring recovery is needed about 8 weeks or over, that possible Barcelona still hasn't the best forward for the next match versus Bayern, Aguero, and lord Braithwaite are still didn't recover yet. Xavy must think hard to win the game without players who have to substitution. The only miracle to Barcelona wins in the alliance arena, while Lewandowski is very still on fire.

Aguero I know he won't be playing again due to a heart problem we know and is planning to retire young at this age.
Braithwaite injured for too long this effort cannot be overstated because Xavi has to rely on poor players at Allianz then Barcelona are unlikely to win but miracles always come at any time.
Lewandowski is a dangerous striker who is currently on fire, making other teams overwhelmed against him and Barcelona's defense must be able to kill Lewandowski who is on fire.

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