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December 04, 2021, 06:58:26 PM
About Barcelona vs Bayern's match if any of you think that Barcelona can qualify to the next round, I think it's better to bet in the favor of Dynamo Kiev against Benfica, I really think that Dyn Kiev has more chances to get out of the match with a draw against benfica than Barcelona to beat Bayern in Allianz Arena, so for me double chance for Dynamo Kiev with Bayern Munich to win is a good parlay if I think Barca will go to the next round.
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December 04, 2021, 04:49:39 PM
I think choosing an underdog team is something that is very risky, if in the next match they will be against a tough team in their respective leagues, then I think choosing an underdog team can be good too. But unfortunately, Juventus and Chelsea didn't find tough opponents after this match, so I think both of them will still be targeting a win in the last match.
On top of that champions league is not a place that teams let go that easily. Each win means prize money and they need that prize money for getting more payments for players as well, and players knows this too. So even if you do 30 goals in 6 games with zero goals scored and 6 wins, that means we are talking about teams always fighting until the end.

This is why I do not see underdogs winning even if Chelsea guarantees anything, I mean every game is another payment for the club and that is why they have to win as much as they can. Underdogs could work in league, because there is not that much money involved and you could do a little better after you lose a few games, there is a chance to recover, and it is usually 30+ games, even as much as 40+ in some leagues so it is definitely very hard to win every game, but in 6 games it is quite possible.
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December 04, 2021, 03:13:16 PM
The competition for promoting as the leader in the group H is still on. Chelsea needed to defeat Juventus to have a big chance for the position and they did it. Now Chelsea are the leader even though they have the same points. But I already take it for granted that Chelsea would maintain their lead after the last games also. They are going to play against Zenit away. And Juventus are going to play against Malmo home. I assume that Chelsea and Juventus both will win and they will end the stage at the same positions.
Just goal different, Both confirmed to the next round, but when they want to avoid meet the winner another group, Chelsea and Juventus must win.
I also doubt Chelsea and Juventus will arrive in the semifinal. I heard the rumors, for this session Chelsea will be focusing on the premier league, the owner has ambitions for the 2021-2022 title. while Juventus as we can see how they very great difficulty for this year.


Maybe you are right about Chelsea. But I don't know. Yeah, they won the last Champions League title with Tuchel. But they wouldn't say no to making it to the second title consecutively. It is easily seen that they are caring about the English Premier League really much. Because for four years, they couldn't reach the EPL title. I think that it is time for them to win it. But I believe one thing also that they are good enough to be able to focus on both tournaments. We will see how much they will move on in the Champions League.
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December 04, 2021, 03:05:03 PM
almost every season the teams in the English league dominate a lot to qualify for the next round, and the evidence that for the last 3 years 2 of them UCL titles have always come from England (Liverpool 2018, Chelsea 2020).
on the other hand now it looks like they just need to relax because all england teams have already qualified and it's just a matter of keeping the position for MU and Chelsea in the last game so it would be great to see the teams from great britain top of the group stage
Few years back there was some good quality, and we have good teams doing in Champions League with talented players from different players, but recently we have some good investments just for cups and their own sack which is hurting very badly as we have few teams with Billions of USD in their wallet and these teams buying quality players for trophies and name no quality check.

English Premier League is taking good advantage of this because it's most viewed league and have the best investment opportunity for many investors, so their quality is also had good rise because of this money in other countries we have very few teams, so this is giving good competition in this league and many teams have chance of winning trophy like Manchester City, Chelsea, Liverpool and Manchester United. In France, we have only PSG and in Germany we have only Bayern with the same happening in Italy and Spain.
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December 04, 2021, 12:14:47 PM
England has now proven to always own the champions league,Before,it was always Bayern,Real Madrid, Barcelona and teams in other leagues before English teams,but now,England has emerged to be the home of football,where two English teams meet in champions league final.And that is to show English teams have improved.
Primer league team always dominance on champion league every year where success pass to next stage all primer league team participants, almost primer league team become leader on each group right now, Chelsea and Manchester United need last match to make them as leader on each group if get three points on this week. Last few years Spain or La Liga team always dominance and they can success make one or two team like Madrid and Barcelona pass to semifinal but now only Madrid have pass to the next stage.
I agree with what you said, because almost every season the teams in the English league dominate a lot to qualify for the next round, and the evidence that for the last 3 years 2 of them UCL titles have always come from England (Liverpool 2018, Chelsea 2020).
on the other hand now it looks like they just need to relax because all england teams have already qualified and it's just a matter of keeping the position for MU and Chelsea in the last game so it would be great to see the teams from great britain top of the group stage
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December 04, 2021, 11:39:17 AM
I think Chelsea and Juventus will win with absolute certainty in the last game of the Champions League group stage, Chelsea and Juventus will both face a team that has no hope of advancing to the next round.
But still, the match is a match and it seems quite interesting to bet on, I feel that Chelsea and Juventus will not play seriously later, and I plan to choose their opponents in the betting market. What do you think?
I think choosing an underdog team is something that is very risky, if in the next match they will be against a tough team in their respective leagues, then I think choosing an underdog team can be good too. But unfortunately, Juventus and Chelsea didn't find tough opponents after this match, so I think both of them will still be targeting a win in the last match.

Choosing an underdog team would not be wise because I don't think that Chelsea and Juventus will do or should take things lightly. I think both teams will go for the win. They should win against their weaker opponents. Maybe a goal comparison will be a better idea.
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December 04, 2021, 11:35:19 AM
It's very delicate situation to be in for Barcelona, but the major factor is that Bayern Munich have nothing to play for but, I strongly disagree that they'd however bench some of their stars players because why would they do that ? Bundesliga is unlike the English and Spanish league with heavy schedule for the Christmas and New Year,  the last matches for the Bundesliga sides would be 18th of this after that until the second week of the new year. The only advantage Barcelona might have would be Bayern Munich not playing desperately since they have nothing to lose.

I want to hope Barcelona would make through the next stage regardless, and Bayern isn't invisible, If they can lose to Augsburg, they can lose to Barcelona, too.

That is why Barcelona has practically no chances - Bayern is playing the most serious match today and, depending on the result, the match with Barcelona they will play either angry or satisfied and confident in their abilities (both options are unfavorable for Barcelona in my opinion). Taking into account the fact that Bayern have already experienced disastrous unexpected defeats this season, the match with Barcelona will be a good opportunity to seriously test their strength, respectively, they will play their best by almost 100%.
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December 04, 2021, 10:38:19 AM
It's very delicate situation to be in for Barcelona, but the major factor is that Bayern Munich have nothing to play for but, I strongly disagree that they'd however bench some of their stars players because why would they do that ? Bundesliga is unlike the English and Spanish league with heavy schedule for the Christmas and New Year,  the last matches for the Bundesliga sides would be 18th of this after that until the second week of the new year. The only advantage Barcelona might have would be Bayern Munich not playing desperately since they have nothing to lose.
I want to hope Barcelona would make through the next stage regardless, and Bayern isn't invisible, If they can lose to Augsburg, they can lose to Barcelona, too.
In fact, it will be easier for Barcelona to play because I heard that this match, due to the worsening situation with the coronavirus in Germany, will be played without an audience.
Each team can lose a few games, but that does not change the fact that currently Bayern is a better team than Barcelona and the favorite in this match.
Barcelona actually had a lot of luck in the match against Benfica but this time I think their chances of winning are very small.
Maybe defeat and relegation from the Champions League would be a good shock therapy for the whole club and a real opportunity for a major overhaul of the team and a new beginning .
Barcelona with the leaving of Messi are facing difficulties not only in La Liga but also in Champions.They maybe somewhat more focused on Champions though as they are in seventh place in La Liga and things are not looking good for them with all the other teams above them being in better shape than Barcelona.It will be a very easy win for Bayern Munchen.They have beaten Barcelona with tennis results when Barcelona was in much better shape than now.
Of course only if Bayern don't take the game seriously then some chances for a Barcelona win can be but still difficult for me.

Yes, I absolutely agree with you because I really don't think that Barcelona under any conditions has any chance to win this match except for Bayern's negligence. Barcelona was beaten by Bayern Munich by really big scores even though they had really big superstars in their team and now when they are facing a really tough time I think it will be double as hard for them to beat Bayern Munich.
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December 04, 2021, 07:13:04 AM
Everyone is afraid for Barcelona.  Everyone is believing Bayern Munich will win the match. No one is confidently sure Barcelona can perform wonders. Well it is so, unless Bayern will rest players.
Why would Bayern refuse to eliminate Barcelona when they know Barcelona can return to form and become a stumbling block for the.

It's very delicate situation to be in for Barcelona, but the major factor is that Bayern Munich have nothing to play for but, I strongly disagree that they'd however bench some of their stars players because why would they do that ? Bundesliga is unlike the English and Spanish league with heavy schedule for the Christmas and New Year,  the last matches for the Bundesliga sides would be 18th of this after that until the second week of the new year. The only advantage Barcelona might have would be Bayern Munich not playing desperately since they have nothing to lose.

I want to hope Barcelona would make through the next stage regardless, and Bayern isn't invisible, If they can lose to Augsburg, they can lose to Barcelona, too.

In fact, it will be easier for Barcelona to play because I heard that this match, due to the worsening situation with the coronavirus in Germany, will be played without an audience.
Each team can lose a few games, but that does not change the fact that currently Bayern is a better team than Barcelona and the favorite in this match.
Barcelona actually had a lot of luck in the match against Benfica but this time I think their chances of winning are very small.
Maybe defeat and relegation from the Champions League would be a good shock therapy for the whole club and a real opportunity for a major overhaul of the team and a new beginning .

Barcelona with the leaving of Messi are facing difficulties not only in La Liga but also in Champions.They maybe somewhat more focused on Champions though as they are in seventh place in La Liga and things are not looking good for them with all the other teams above them being in better shape than Barcelona.It will be a very easy win for Bayern Munchen.They have beaten Barcelona with tennis results when Barcelona was in much better shape than now.

Of course only if Bayern don't take the game seriously then some chances for a Barcelona win can be but still difficult for me.
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December 04, 2021, 06:50:49 AM
Everyone is afraid for Barcelona.  Everyone is believing Bayern Munich will win the match. No one is confidently sure Barcelona can perform wonders. Well it is so, unless Bayern will rest players.
Why would Bayern refuse to eliminate Barcelona when they know Barcelona can return to form and become a stumbling block for the.

It's very delicate situation to be in for Barcelona, but the major factor is that Bayern Munich have nothing to play for but, I strongly disagree that they'd however bench some of their stars players because why would they do that ? Bundesliga is unlike the English and Spanish league with heavy schedule for the Christmas and New Year,  the last matches for the Bundesliga sides would be 18th of this after that until the second week of the new year. The only advantage Barcelona might have would be Bayern Munich not playing desperately since they have nothing to lose.

I want to hope Barcelona would make through the next stage regardless, and Bayern isn't invisible, If they can lose to Augsburg, they can lose to Barcelona, too.

In fact, it will be easier for Barcelona to play because I heard that this match, due to the worsening situation with the coronavirus in Germany, will be played without an audience.
Each team can lose a few games, but that does not change the fact that currently Bayern is a better team than Barcelona and the favorite in this match.
Barcelona actually had a lot of luck in the match against Benfica but this time I think their chances of winning are very small.
Maybe defeat and relegation from the Champions League would be a good shock therapy for the whole club and a real opportunity for a major overhaul of the team and a new beginning .
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December 04, 2021, 02:44:06 AM
Chelsea and Juventus are still competing to capture the leadership by the last group match. Chelsea are ahead of Juventus despite having the equal points because they werre better in their head-to-head matches. And there is an obvious thing that Chelsea will keep their position as Zenit already qualified for the EL and have not any chance for the CL anymore. They would defeat Zenit with a nice score.

I think Chelsea and Juventus will win with absolute certainty in the last game of the Champions League group stage, Chelsea and Juventus will both face a team that has no hope of advancing to the next round.

But still, the match is a match and it seems quite interesting to bet on, I feel that Chelsea and Juventus will not play seriously later, and I plan to choose their opponents in the betting market. What do you think?
I think choosing an underdog team is something that is very risky, if in the next match they will be against a tough team in their respective leagues, then I think choosing an underdog team can be good too. But unfortunately, Juventus and Chelsea didn't find tough opponents after this match, so I think both of them will still be targeting a win in the last match.
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December 04, 2021, 02:29:30 AM
England has now proven to always own the champions league,Before,it was always Bayern,Real Madrid, Barcelona and teams in other leagues before English teams,but now,England has emerged to be the home of football,where two English teams meet in champions league final.And that is to show English teams have improved.
The dominance of EPL teams will continue, England have a fairly crowded local competition and greatly they EPL clubs are able to manage well and continue to achieve quite good results in European competitions, especially in recent years there will always be EPL teams that can get into ucl semi-finals.
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December 04, 2021, 01:44:03 AM
England has now proven to always own the champions league,Before,it was always Bayern,Real Madrid, Barcelona and teams in other leagues before English teams,but now,England has emerged to be the home of football,where two English teams meet in champions league final.And that is to show English teams have improved.
Primer league team always dominance on champion league every year where success pass to next stage all primer league team participants, almost primer league team become leader on each group right now, Chelsea and Manchester United need last match to make them as leader on each group if get three points on this week. Last few years Spain or La Liga team always dominance and they can success make one or two team like Madrid and Barcelona pass to semifinal but now only Madrid have pass to the next stage.
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December 03, 2021, 10:59:29 PM
Chelsea and Juventus are still competing to capture the leadership by the last group match. Chelsea are ahead of Juventus despite having the equal points because they werre better in their head-to-head matches. And there is an obvious thing that Chelsea will keep their position as Zenit already qualified for the EL and have not any chance for the CL anymore. They would defeat Zenit with a nice score.

I think Chelsea and Juventus will win with absolute certainty in the last game of the Champions League group stage, Chelsea and Juventus will both face a team that has no hope of advancing to the next round.

But still, the match is a match and it seems quite interesting to bet on, I feel that Chelsea and Juventus will not play seriously later, and I plan to choose their opponents in the betting market. What do you think?
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December 03, 2021, 10:19:44 PM
Everyone is afraid for Barcelona.  Everyone is believing Bayern Munich will win the match. No one is confidently sure Barcelona can perform wonders. Well it is so, unless Bayern will rest players.
Why would Bayern refuse to eliminate Barcelona when they know Barcelona can return to form and become a stumbling block for the.

It's very delicate situation to be in for Barcelona, but the major factor is that Bayern Munich have nothing to play for but, I strongly disagree that they'd however bench some of their stars players because why would they do that ? Bundesliga is unlike the English and Spanish league with heavy schedule for the Christmas and New Year,  the last matches for the Bundesliga sides would be 18th of this after that until the second week of the new year. The only advantage Barcelona might have would be Bayern Munich not playing desperately since they have nothing to lose.

I want to hope Barcelona would make through the next stage regardless, and Bayern isn't invisible, If they can lose to Augsburg, they can lose to Barcelona, too.
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December 03, 2021, 10:06:15 PM
England has now proven to always own the champions league,Before,it was always Bayern,Real Madrid, Barcelona and teams in other leagues before English teams,but now,England has emerged to be the home of football,where two English teams meet in champions league final.And that is to show English teams have improved.
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December 03, 2021, 08:12:10 PM
It looks like bad luck is for Barcelona because apart from having to play away, the opponent he will face is Bayern Munich which is one of the strongest teams in Europe. Also, this is the ultimate match that requires Barcelona to win to be able to ensure qualification, as Benfica looks like it is certain to win against Kyiv. Even in the past, when Barcelona were at their best, the fact that Bayern Munich could still beat Barcelona, I can't imagine what the final result will be like. I'm sure Bayern Munich will continue to play with a meaningful professional, they will stay serious and I'm not sure Xavi will be able to bring Barcelona to victory because for a draw it looks like it's still difficult for Barcelona to get.

The match will be tough for Barcelona if Bayern Munich form their full strength main squad. However, since this is not an important match for Bayern Ray. So Bayern's coach might even give a break to their key players. If the key players are not in the squad then Barcelona has a good chance of winning. Benfica, on the other hand, will play against Kyve. It looks like Benfica will win, but Kyve will definitely fight. Predicting such matches is often wrong.
If I was the coach of the Bayern I will field the best players I have at my disposal, even if Barcelona is not what it used to be you never know what it may happen in the later rounds, I would prefer to face Benfica instead of Barcelona, so it is better to eliminate Barcelona of the competition now when there is no risk at all to my team instead of trying to do it in a later round when my team will be at risk as well.
Everyone is afraid for Barcelona.  Everyone is believing Bayern Munich will win the match. No one is confidently sure Barcelona can perform wonders. Well it is so, unless Bayern will rest players.
Why would Bayern refuse to eliminate Barcelona when they know Barcelona can return to form and become a stumbling block for the.
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December 03, 2021, 05:12:58 PM
It looks like bad luck is for Barcelona because apart from having to play away, the opponent he will face is Bayern Munich which is one of the strongest teams in Europe. Also, this is the ultimate match that requires Barcelona to win to be able to ensure qualification, as Benfica looks like it is certain to win against Kyiv. Even in the past, when Barcelona were at their best, the fact that Bayern Munich could still beat Barcelona, I can't imagine what the final result will be like. I'm sure Bayern Munich will continue to play with a meaningful professional, they will stay serious and I'm not sure Xavi will be able to bring Barcelona to victory because for a draw it looks like it's still difficult for Barcelona to get.

The match will be tough for Barcelona if Bayern Munich form their full strength main squad. However, since this is not an important match for Bayern Ray. So Bayern's coach might even give a break to their key players. If the key players are not in the squad then Barcelona has a good chance of winning. Benfica, on the other hand, will play against Kyve. It looks like Benfica will win, but Kyve will definitely fight. Predicting such matches is often wrong.
If I was the coach of the Bayern I will field the best players I have at my disposal, even if Barcelona is not what it used to be you never know what it may happen in the later rounds, I would prefer to face Benfica instead of Barcelona, so it is better to eliminate Barcelona of the competition now when there is no risk at all to my team instead of trying to do it in a later round when my team will be at risk as well.
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December 03, 2021, 03:38:44 PM
After seeing how the Ballon D'or awards were conducted, am pretty sure many of you would agree that if we had to point a winner from all the contenders, Robert Lewandowski was the most deserving player that night but whatever happens with the voting system clearly doesn't show the most hard working player of that period. Btw I hear Messi wants to pass it on to  Robert Lewandowski , how far as this gone???

Anyway after this Ballon D'or  nightmare am expecting Bayern Munich not to show mercy on Barcelona on the 8th after their former talisman got it shocking the world. My prediction  Bayern Munich 4-0 Barcelona
According to you. I am not saying that Lewa didn't deserve it at all, of course he did and if you ask anyone who voted and said Messi, their second choice would have been Lewa for sure without a doubt. The problem here is that we are talking about two great players and I doubt that people would mind if Lewa got it, but not everyone thinks that Messi getting it is corruption or undeserving or anything like that.

I am personally not shocked at all, look at how horrible Barcelona became without Messi, so it is clear to me that Messi deserved it as much as Lewa did as well. Once again, I am not saying Messi should have gotten it but I am also not saying Lewa should have neither, they both deserved it equally in my mind so this result wasn't really that much of a deal for me. I do not think what they would gain by beating Barcelona in an extra effort aside from extra fatigue, Messi doesn't play there anymore so it wouldn't really matter all that much. However if Bayern faces PSG, then I am expecting some chaos.
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December 03, 2021, 12:34:32 PM
When it comes to the group D, I see that Real Madrid and Inter both are safe in terms of guaranteeing their qualifying. But there is still a competition between them for the 1st position. And in the game in Santiago Bernabeu, Inter have to win to take the lead. Real Madrid defeated them in Giuseppe Meazza so this is going to be even harder for Inter. I expect a draw in the worst case and maybe Real Madrid could win again.
Real Madrid last encounter against Inter ended in their favor. Although, the match was tough for them, but fortunately, Rodrygo was able to score a goal towards the end of the game. However, the both teams will surely make it to the Round 16. Nevertheless, Inter won't want to be beaten twice by Real Madrid, so they will try their possible best in winning against Real Madrid on Tuesday. I think Real Madrid is the most favorite in the match, besides I won't be surprise if it eventually end in draw.
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