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Sergio Ramos awoke from his sleep, and I saw that he is now in the squad for the match against Manchester city, but it's still not confirmed whether he will be on the bench or in the starting line-up?
Of course we would like to see him perform again with his new club.

It is a great news for Ramos and PSG's fans. After a long time we will see Ramos on the field. Hopefully Ramos will not disappoint fans like us. He will play well. However, since he has been injured for so long. He may not be given the opportunity to play the full 90 minutes. Everything will depend on the decision of the coach.

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Quote from: bitzizzix on November 23, 2021, 08:43:02 AM

It seems so, but I think Chelsea will continue to attack because this game is a revenge game because Chelsea were beaten 1-0 away to Juventus.
and the match will be very interesting because Chelsea will play more attacking and will try to top the Group H standings and Juventus will play defensively to maintain its position at the top of Group H.

and my prediction is Chelsea 1-0 Juventus.

because Chelsea are a bit more favored because they play at home and can appear more comfortable considering their position as the leader of the EPL standings, and despite playing without Romelu Lukaku due to injury, Chlesea still played well.

I think that Chelsea will win this match convincingly enough. But yes I agreed, there might not be a really big goal difference. I am expecting Chelsea to play some aggressive football. And as we all know that Juventus is not in the best shape right now so it will be hard for them to defend against Chelsea's attack.

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Quote from: tokeweed on November 23, 2021, 09:31:15 AM

Anyway is there any reason why Juve is at 6.20 away vs Chelsea. I mean sure Chelsea has the better squad and the match is at Stamford Bridge but 6.20? That has to be the bet, right? Draw no bet is at 4.10 and the double chance is at 2.38... What do you guys think?

Perhaps because Juventus is qualified already and they may not force themselves to win the game while Chelsea is in a big motivation to make a revenge.
It is obvious that Chelsea has better squad and better strategy than Juventus but what we see from the all result of Juventus so far, they had a better luck than Chelsea.
Coming to the odds, double chance seems to be the best option to bet unless you are very sure that Chelsea will win the match.

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Sergio Ramos awoke from his sleep, and I saw that he is now in the squad for the match against Manchester city, but it's still not confirmed whether he will be on the bench or in the starting line-up?
Of course we would like to see him perform again with his new club.

Tonight there are 2 matches that I watch, Chelsea vs Juventus and Barcelona vs Benfica both hosts will avenge the previous defeat, but I think my bet is Chelsea and Barcelona can win.

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Barcelona have lost their previous match against Benfica. They conceded 3 goals and could not score a single goal in return. Their gameplay was very weak. But after Xavi's debut, I watched the last match of Barcelona. They are back to tiki-taka tactics. And their gameplay was very tidy. If they can show the same kind of gameplay in today's match, they will be able to win today. In my prediction, Barcelona will win 2-1.

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Villarreal CF - Manchester United FC
does anyone believe that manchester united can win? I doubt it. I'm going to bet on Villarreal, I think they'll win by at least 1 goal

But I think otherwise, it is very possible for them to win or at least draw, it could be a strong motivation for the United squad that they better without Ole, moreover usually the new manager will give something different to the team, but I prefer to bet on a draw in this match.

I think even though Manchester United lost in this match, it looks like Manchester United can still be runner up, considering the last opponent Manchester United will face is Young Boys. But yeah, it's just a point of view that might underestimate the opponent due to the fact, Manchester United are not easy to get full points here. So yes, with the sacking of Ole, I personally become more pessimistic for Manchester United because they haven't got a new coach and have only been replaced by the previous assistant coach Michael Carrick. A draw is clearly a target that looks like it is still possible for Manchester United to get, but to get full points I also doubt it because it is very likely that Villarreal will not waste this good opportunity to win at home.

No Carrick ain't changing nothing. Ole said he didn't run training, which means Carrick did. Villa Real have 3 wins domestically this season. Utd should get the job done away from Old Trafford. If they lose tonight, the broad will be panic to get Pochettino right away, so he can manage the important game against Young boys

For sure Carrick won't change anything but neither Pochettino. He doesn't have any magic wand to transform Man Utd in 2 weeks or so. Thus Man Utd needs to win today whoever is in their bentch and then wait for their new manager to take over. By the way, IMO Pochettino is a better option than Zidane and he can create a Man Utd team as it used to be.

Rumors about Pochettino seem to spread quickly but indeed, I personally also like Pochettino who seems to be better in the EPL than in Ligue 1. Regarding Zidane who was previously rumored to be replacing OGS, it seems that this transfer of coaching chair might happen as well. Considering Pochettino at PSG like it doesn't fit and it seems too, if Zidane replaces Pochettino at PSG it is something that looks perfect. Anyway, Manchester United's game this time and the next game in the EPL, is definitely not an easy job and I'm just not sure about Carrick, but it's interesting to look forward to, who knows.

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^ Yeah.. Yesterday I was thinking that Man United could win vs Villareal since United has been doing somewhat well in the CL and Villareal isn’t anything special. Now I’m less sure. I’m more confident of a Ronaldo anytime goal scorer hitting than a United win. Lol.

Anyway is there any reason why Juve is at 6.20 away vs Chelsea. I mean sure Chelsea has the better squad and the match is at Stamford Bridge but 6.20? That has to be the bet, right? Draw no bet is at 4.10 and the double chance is at 2.38... What do you guys think?

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And once again, Villarreal will face Man U! Cheesy

I'm not sure that the Red Devils can win in Spain, I think it could be a draw or a minimum victory for the hosts! There is no doubt that Villarreal will be able to score in this match! And the guests will not play with several key players, including Pogba and Varane!

Losing varane makes the manchester defense have a big enough hole so it is very easy for opposing players to penetrate, in fact we can see how the results obtained by manchester so far after losing varane due to injury, while pogba absent, I think will not affect too much the manchester squad, in fact I saw manchester playing quite well when pogba was absent.
For the prediction of the match villareal vs manchester, I agree with you, I think manchester is still in pretty bad shape even though they have sacked Ole and it looks like today match will be won by villarreal.

Honestly, at any time I would have supported Manchester United but I am really doubtful judging by the situation they are in. I think they might not win this match. And I honestly don't know how they will play this match. Because you cannot always defend. And if you go aggressive and as we know that they have a hole in the defense they might just get caught in the counter-attack. Maybe as they have pace sitting back and playing counter-attack and also offside trap could be an option.

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Quote from: Red Pie on November 23, 2021, 08:38:49 AM

There will be a group leader match between Manchester United and Villarreal. I think Villarreal in Spain will definitely win this match, in which the winning team will be the leader. This match is very important for Manchester United after Solksjaer was fired.

i have the opposite think, i am very sure mu will win in this match because they have got a new coach, even though he is still an interim coach but Carrick has different thoughts from Ole. i predict a thin score ^(1-0) for mu victory.

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Quote from: dustboy on November 23, 2021, 08:07:06 AM

Correct, Juventus has been qualified already to the Play-Off stage but I do not think they will let Chelsea win the game easily to take the 1st position. I think Juventus will play defensively and try to maximize counter attack strategy. Regarding Dybala, seems that he is recovered and ready to play but I dont think Allegri will force him to play (full time) and maybe he will start from the bench.

It's hard to say. On the one hand, Juve needs to focus on the next top league match against Atalanta Bergamo to not lose touch with ranks which are qualifies for the CL or even Euro League.
Thus, one could assume that they might not take the match quite so seriously. On the other hand, Juve has no interest in falling back to second place, because otherwise much tougher opponents await them in the next round than if they were to finish first.

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Judging by the last match, Barcelona cannot boast of a good game. Benfica lost big to Bavaria (but managed to score 2 goals) and after that won two big victories (in the domestic tournament). In my opinion, both teams are far from the best shape, the result of the match looks very random, but it seems to me that in any case you should not bet on the victory of Barcelona (odds 1.66) as the risk is much higher than the profit. Considering Benfica's performance, the bet on the fact that 2-3 goals will be scored in the match (odds 2.06) looks interesting.

I would back Barcelona to win because I want to see them in their winning form. I want to see how the players performed under Xavi. Placing a bet for this match is really really risky, just let's just enjoy the match. But Barcelona should win this match in my opinion.

Maybe Barcelona will win this match, but it doesn't really matter. Let's say Barcelona make it to the play-oof round, what are their chances there? Especially considering the fact that it is highly likely that she will face some top club (due to the fact that Barcelona will take the second place in the group at most, it will play with some team that took first place).

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Dybala should be recovers d fot the game between juventus and chealse but it is not sure yet if he will play or not.
Juventus is already qualified and it is hard to justify a potential risk for the player if he is not in his best shape.

I dont know if they should risk Dybala for this match at all. With Juventus already passing the group stage they can even save some players in this match. I think we can expect a lot of goals in this match and plus Chelsea to win it. Chelsea needs only a point but will probobly go for the first place.

Correct, Juventus has been qualified already to the Play-Off stage but I do not think they will let Chelsea win the game easily to take the 1st position. I think Juventus will play defensively and try to maximize counter attack strategy. Regarding Dybala, seems that he is recovered and ready to play but I dont think Allegri will force him to play (full time) and maybe he will start from the bench.

It seems so, but I think Chelsea will continue to attack because this game is a revenge game because Chelsea were beaten 1-0 away to Juventus.
and the match will be very interesting because Chelsea will play more attacking and will try to top the Group H standings and Juventus will play defensively to maintain its position at the top of Group H.

and my prediction is Chelsea 1-0 Juventus.

because Chelsea are a bit more favored because they play at home and can appear more comfortable considering their position as the leader of the EPL standings, and despite playing without Romelu Lukaku due to injury, Chlesea still played well.

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Villarreal CF - Manchester United FC
does anyone believe that manchester united can win? I doubt it. I'm going to bet on Villarreal, I think they'll win by at least 1 goal

But I think otherwise, it is very possible for them to win or at least draw, it could be a strong motivation for the United squad that they better without Ole, moreover usually the new manager will give something different to the team, but I prefer to bet on a draw in this match.

I think even though Manchester United lost in this match, it looks like Manchester United can still be runner up, considering the last opponent Manchester United will face is Young Boys. But yeah, it's just a point of view that might underestimate the opponent due to the fact, Manchester United are not easy to get full points here. So yes, with the sacking of Ole, I personally become more pessimistic for Manchester United because they haven't got a new coach and have only been replaced by the previous assistant coach Michael Carrick. A draw is clearly a target that looks like it is still possible for Manchester United to get, but to get full points I also doubt it because it is very likely that Villarreal will not waste this good opportunity to win at home.

No Carrick ain't changing nothing. Ole said he didn't run training, which means Carrick did. Villa Real have 3 wins domestically this season. Utd should get the job done away from Old Trafford. If they lose tonight, the broad will be panic to get Pochettino right away, so he can manage the important game against Young boys

For sure Carrick won't change anything but neither Pochettino. He doesn't have any magic wand to transform Man Utd in 2 weeks or so. Thus Man Utd needs to win today whoever is in their bentch and then wait for their new manager to take over. By the way, IMO Pochettino is a better option than Zidane and he can create a Man Utd team as it used to be.

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There will be a group leader match between Manchester United and Villarreal. I think Villarreal in Spain will definitely win this match, in which the winning team will be the leader. This match is very important for Manchester United after Solksjaer was fired. In the Atalanta-Young Boys match, Atalanta will win.

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Quote from: 3meek on November 23, 2021, 03:26:08 AM

And once again, Villarreal will face Man U! Cheesy

I'm not sure that the Red Devils can win in Spain, I think it could be a draw or a minimum victory for the hosts! There is no doubt that Villarreal will be able to score in this match! And the guests will not play with several key players, including Pogba and Varane!

Losing varane makes the manchester defense have a big enough hole so it is very easy for opposing players to penetrate, in fact we can see how the results obtained by manchester so far after losing varane due to injury, while pogba absent, I think will not affect too much the manchester squad, in fact I saw manchester playing quite well when pogba was absent.
For the prediction of the match villareal vs manchester, I agree with you, I think manchester is still in pretty bad shape even though they have sacked Ole and it looks like today match will be won by villarreal.

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Dybala should be recovers d fot the game between juventus and chealse but it is not sure yet if he will play or not.
Juventus is already qualified and it is hard to justify a potential risk for the player if he is not in his best shape.

I dont know if they should risk Dybala for this match at all. With Juventus already passing the group stage they can even save some players in this match. I think we can expect a lot of goals in this match and plus Chelsea to win it. Chelsea needs only a point but will probobly go for the first place.

Correct, Juventus has been qualified already to the Play-Off stage but I do not think they will let Chelsea win the game easily to take the 1st position. I think Juventus will play defensively and try to maximize counter attack strategy. Regarding Dybala, seems that he is recovered and ready to play but I dont think Allegri will force him to play (full time) and maybe he will start from the bench.

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And once again, Villarreal will face Man U! Cheesy

I'm not sure that the Red Devils can win in Spain, I think it could be a draw or a minimum victory for the hosts! There is no doubt that Villarreal will be able to score in this match! And the guests will not play with several key players, including Pogba and Varane!

Man United luckily escaped the draw in the previous meet with Villarreal. They won the match for the goal of Ronaldo in the extra time of second half. I also think that Villarreal will win today in their home condition, otherwise it could be a draw. The equation will be hard for Man United to qualify for round of 16 if Villarreal and Atalanta wins the match today.

This will be Michael Carrick's first match as a coach and I think he definitely wants a win, but Man United is in a bad shape and Villarreal will always be a formidable opponent for Man United, so it will be a tough match for Carrick and Man United. Villarreal is not at their best either, but they will play at home, and this will be an advantage for Villarreal.

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Dybala should be recovers d fot the game between juventus and chealse but it is not sure yet if he will play or not.
Juventus is already qualified and it is hard to justify a potential risk for the player if he is not in his best shape.

I dont know if they should risk Dybala for this match at all. With Juventus already passing the group stage they can even save some players in this match. I think we can expect a lot of goals in this match and plus Chelsea to win it. Chelsea needs only a point but will probobly go for the first place.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on November 23, 2021, 05:09:01 AM

So, crucial game for Barca against Benfica. Good odds for our win. I think that Barca is fully able to beat Benfica.

It is very possible that Barcelona will win this match but they should be able to score 2 goals or more. In the previous match vs Espanyol Barcelona was very difficult to score despite quite a lot of chance in the first and second half, but they only managed with 1 goal from Depay's penalty until the match ended.

Barcelona need a better goalscorer this season than at the moment Depay seem to be helping a lot, but without a standout player in front of them it will always be difficult to win match. I think Fati could be an option, but he still need a lot of time to get into good form and improve his fitness and that's the case with Dembele too.

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Dybala should be recovers d fot the game between juventus and chealse but it is not sure yet if he will play or not.
Juventus is already qualified and it is hard to justify a potential risk for the player if he is not in his best shape.

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