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Quote from: Slow death on October 20, 2021, 06:37:03 AM

this disparity in odds is very strange, atalanta is a strong team and manchester united is a weak team, but why they giving all that advantage to manchester united? are Oddsmaker underestimating the atalanta? I'm thinking about betting on atalanta

The first reason is because Manchester United is at home, we know how home matches can be of great advantage for players, home matches alcan be of lower odd than that of away matches of the same strength.

Second is the Manchester United fans, like C. Ronaldo, and some other good Manchester United players. Manchester United will also be more serious on this game than others and I believe C. Ronaldo main aim is to win Champions League which he will have extra effort for. I am not bothered about today's game, but I know Manchester United still have a long way to achieve this as this can not be achieved in the long run.

If you check this season in Seria A, Atlanta do not joke with away matches, but this is Champions League though.

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Quote from: arallmuus on October 20, 2021, 08:45:21 AM

Quote from: Slow death on October 20, 2021, 06:37:03 AM

this disparity in odds is very strange, atalanta is a strong team and manchester united is a weak team, but why they giving all that advantage to manchester united? are Oddsmaker underestimating the atalanta?

Totally understand that this was meant for sarcasm but this is totally uncalled for. Manchester United is still a far better team compared to Atalanta although their recent performances are quite bad so far. Im pretty confident with this one because its going to be in Old Trafford and Ole can no longer risk his job anymore so he'll start with his best lineup

Manchester united's problem isn't the players, it's the coach, so it's no use putting the best players on the field. Manchester United's defense united is bad, and atalanta manages to score a lot of goals, in my opinion atalanta will win

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A really important game for Barcelona, I cannot remember when they started the CL with 2 defeats in a row. Considering that Bayern will surely pass the group, they will have to fight for the 2nd spot with Benfica.
Benfica is hosting Bayern today, a good result for them at home will mean even more pressure on Barcelona. There is still a lot of football to be played, but Barca needs a win today.

Same goes for United, they are not nearly in such a bad position as Barca, but Solskjaer needs a win to calm down the situation after their league loss. Anything but a win tonight and they will have a complicated situation in the CL as well.

Barça will beat Dynamo Kiev. They have already made a very bad start in the champions league, having suffered 2 defeats in a row. Still, Dynamo Kiev is not a team with a strong enough roster to beat Barcelona at the Nou Camp. At the Santiago Bernabeu though, Sheriff beat Real Madrid. Everything is possible in football. I think Barça and ManU will win tonight.

it is very likely that Barca will win the game given their positive trend in some La Liga matches. but I think Manchester United will be a little difficult in tonight's game, they have had quite a bad result in the premier league in a few matches and it is very influential on the internal so that it will certainly disrupt the team's game in the next match and what is unforgettable is the English team always struggles when facing with the Italian team in the Champions League.
With all the problems that befell Manchester United at this time, Atalanta will probably use it very well. I think United will again get bad results.

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Quote from: Slow death on October 20, 2021, 06:37:03 AM

this disparity in odds is very strange, atalanta is a strong team and manchester united is a weak team, but why they giving all that advantage to manchester united? are Oddsmaker underestimating the atalanta? I'm thinking about betting on atalanta

I wouldn't underestimate Man U, although I also don't understand why bookmakers give such big odds on an Atalanta win... But still, the Red Devils are playing at home! Although they recently lost to Leicester by a big score, Atalanta are still the underdogs in this match... Furthermore, if Man U win today, they could finish top of the standings...

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Champions League Results Today:

FULL TIME :

Club Brugge 1 vs 5 Manchester City

Besiktas 1 vs 4 Sporting Lisbon

PSG 3 vs 2 RB Leipzig

Atletico Madrid 2 vs 3 Liverpool

FC Porto 1 vs 0 AC Milan

Ajax 4 vs 0 Borussia Dortmund

Inter Milan 3 vs 1 FC Sherif

Shakhtar Donetsk 0 vs 5 Real Madrid

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Almost all the matches went as I expected, especially producing high goal margins.

I think there have been a few surprises. The biggest surprise was certainly Ajax's big win over Dortmund. Could just as well have gone the other way, after Dortmund has played very well lately. But it is the old problem of Dortmund: the continuity. Sometimes they play world-class against top teams, and the next time they play weak against a second-class team.
I was also surprised by Real's big win and Porto's win over Milan and the problems a top-set PSG team had against an injury-weak Leipzig team.

I can't believe that dortmund will concede four goals without scoring a consolation goal despite playing Haaland and Bellingham, though they placed second in their group with six points after losing some points UCL , of course they will qualify from the group if they win two matches out of three with sporting and bekista having 3 points and zero points respectively.
In other matches played it's a predicted results with top teams winning except Atletico and Liverpool match both team match each other however Liverpool won.

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Quote from: joker_josue on October 20, 2021, 09:31:33 AM

Today I think we have 4 very interesting matches:
Man United vs Atalanta - Man United should win, and Ronaldo scores a goal

Same hopes, but it looks like it's their first match. Don't expect only ronaldo, but everyone from Manchester United wins I'm very happy. It's hard to predict the result, but if you look at the players and the match at Old Trafod, Manchester United should have won. But seeing the trend of Manchester United's matches being in an unstable condition, they look fragile. Players are not eager to win. In addition, the issue of many players being disappointed with OLe and the absence of Varane could be Manchester United's weak point today. Atalanta are also a good club they played their totality to win. They are ranked 6th in Serie A.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on October 20, 2021, 09:42:31 AM

A really important game for Barcelona, I cannot remember when they started the CL with 2 defeats in a row. Considering that Bayern will surely pass the group, they will have to fight for the 2nd spot with Benfica.
Benfica is hosting Bayern today, a good result for them at home will mean even more pressure on Barcelona. There is still a lot of football to be played, but Barca needs a win today.

Same goes for United, they are not nearly in such a bad position as Barca, but Solskjaer needs a win to calm down the situation after their league loss. Anything but a win tonight and they will have a complicated situation in the CL as well.

Barça will beat Dynamo Kiev. They have already made a very bad start in the champions league, having suffered 2 defeats in a row. Still, Dynamo Kiev is not a team with a strong enough roster to beat Barcelona at the Nou Camp. At the Santiago Bernabeu though, Sheriff beat Real Madrid. Everything is possible in football. I think Barça and ManU will win tonight.

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Quote from: Barcode_ on October 20, 2021, 08:38:28 AM

I guess Malmo FF still needs some time to improve the quality of their squad before they can stand a chance to beat favorite teams in the Uefa Champions League. Even though the odds payout on Chelsea to win the match in full time against Malmo FF is only @1.08, but I think it should be an easy task for Chelsea to beat Malmo FF at their home stadium today.

You are comparing two teams with a colossal difference in team quality.I predict not only an easy win for Chelsea but with a festival of goals and the most common bet I think on this game will surely be Chelsea to win with 3 goals difference as a handicap bet,maybe they will win with more goals difference but the odd of such bet is 1.5 or just a bit over this.

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A really important game for Barcelona, I cannot remember when they started the CL with 2 defeats in a row. Considering that Bayern will surely pass the group, they will have to fight for the 2nd spot with Benfica.
Benfica is hosting Bayern today, a good result for them at home will mean even more pressure on Barcelona. There is still a lot of football to be played, but Barca needs a win today.

Same goes for United, they are not nearly in such a bad position as Barca, but Solskjaer needs a win to calm down the situation after their league loss. Anything but a win tonight and they will have a complicated situation in the CL as well.

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Beşiktaş suffered a sensational defeat. Sporting defeated Beşiktaş 4-1 in Istanbul. If they had been a little more lucky, they could have scored 5-6 goals. Manchester City beat Club Brugge 5-1. I wasn't expecting that much of a difference. However, both Sporting Lisbon and Manchester City played very well. Another important match was the Ajax-Dortmund match. Ajax defeated 4-0. This was a big surprise. No German fans could have predicted such a different defeat.

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Today I think we have 4 very interesting matches:

Barcelona vs Dinamo - Barcelona must win
Benfica vs Baryen - Will it end in a draw or a victory for Bayern
Man United vs Atalanta - Man United should win, and Ronaldo scores a goal
Zenit vs Juventos - Juventus should win, in a well-fought game.

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Quote from: Slow death on October 20, 2021, 06:37:03 AM

this disparity in odds is very strange, atalanta is a strong team and manchester united is a weak team, but why they giving all that advantage to manchester united? are Oddsmaker underestimating the atalanta? I'm thinking about betting on atalanta

The odds are determined by the current league position, current form, and team value. United will always have the better odds as long as Ronaldo is on the club; Atalanta is a terrific aggressive team, but the chances of them winning United are slim based on their experience because it does matter at some time. Given this is a difficult game to forecast, I'm putting some money on both teams to score, as both teams are relatively weak defensively.

Quote from: arallmuus on October 20, 2021, 08:45:21 AM

Totally understand that this was meant for sarcasm but this is totally uncalled for. Manchester United is still a far better team compared to Atalanta although their recent performances are quite bad so far. Im pretty confident with this one because its going to be in Old Trafford and Ole can no longer risk his job anymore so he'll start with his best lineup.

The only thing Ole can provide at this point is hope; he is not under any pressure, and the board is confident in his ability to continue despite his terrible performance week after week

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Quote from: Slow death on October 20, 2021, 06:37:03 AM

this disparity in odds is very strange, atalanta is a strong team and manchester united is a weak team, but why they giving all that advantage to manchester united? are Oddsmaker underestimating the atalanta?

Totally understand that this was meant for sarcasm but this is totally uncalled for. Manchester United is still a far better team compared to Atalanta although their recent performances are quite bad so far. Im pretty confident with this one because its going to be in Old Trafford and Ole can no longer risk his job anymore so he'll start with his best lineup

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I guess Malmo FF still needs some time to improve the quality of their squad before they can stand a chance to beat favorite teams in the Uefa Champions League. Even though the odds payout on Chelsea to win the match in full time against Malmo FF is only @1.08, but I think it should be an easy task for Chelsea to beat Malmo FF at their home stadium today.

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Atletico's defeat made the Group B competition quite Interesting. AC Milan may be the team that does not qualify in this group. Although there is a chance if Milan win the remaining 2 from 3 matches when they meet Atletico & Porto in the 2nd leg, with Atletico vs Porto results draw and both lose to Liverpool. However, this may be difficult to achieve. I think the candidates are Barcelona & Atletico going to the next round.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on October 20, 2021, 06:40:26 AM

Quote from: Slow death on October 20, 2021, 06:37:03 AM

this disparity in odds is very strange, atalanta is a strong team and manchester united is a weak team, but why they giving all that advantage to manchester united? are Oddsmaker underestimating the atalanta? I'm thinking about betting on atalanta

I think Manchester United will playing hard on this match because only winning match could make guarantee position for Ole, if loss again just waiting with Zidane or Conte become new manager for Manchester United. Many issues about Ole will departed from his position if loss in this match and he got many warning before and against with Atlanta as his proof about he is right men as Manchester United position although four years without one trophy giving for Manchester United.

Manchester United not only played hard but had to win the game against Atlanta, but it was not easy because Atalanta is famous for its attractive game and Manchester United often struggles against teams that are defending.
and Atlanta will definitely play more defensively to maintain its position at the top of the standings, it looks like Ole loses or draws against Atlanta later will be increasingly threatened.
and it looks like the match will be very fierce especially Manchester United will field their best squad, but my prediction is that the final score of the match will end in a draw. Grin

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Quote from: AakZaki on October 20, 2021, 06:49:49 AM

Hala Madrid !
It's great that they won 5-0 over Shaktar. This is a sign that Madrid has not finished in the UCL. I think Shaktar can hold Madrid to a draw because seeing the history of matches Shaktar can always make it difficult for Madrid even their last 2 matches can always make Madrid cry.
Thanks to this victory, Madrid are in second place and Inter are down in 3rd place because they only got 4 points. There are still 3 games left. This makes the competition to qualify for the next phase more interesting, but I hope Madrid can sweep away victory in the remaining matches so they can qualify comfortably.

This was to be expected also last season. I'm glad for Ancelotti and the fact that there is a result which means that we can expect the club to strengthen well in the winter and the transfer market.

Liverpool won and the match was very interesting Griezmann remembered how to score and this is the main thing but in the end he is an antihero. People will forget this and the goals will remain in the statistics.

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MANCHESTER UNITED VS ATLANTA BC

When Manchester United is actually predictable, this is a 3 : 1 match in favour of Manchester United. But I don't actually know what Ole got in stock for us.
I learnt Fred is back and will appear in Manchester United midfield tonight to complete his epileptic passes.
I don't know if the case of Fred is because of the team or the coach, because he does pretty well when playing for Brazil.
Dear Fred, do we allow you play for Manchester United wearing Brazil Jersey? Or should we rename the club to Brazil Chester United?
Please I need your reply, Thanks!

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Quote from: tyz on October 20, 2021, 06:45:14 AM

I think there have been a few surprises. The biggest surprise was certainly Ajax's big win over Dortmund. Could just as well have gone the other way, after Dortmund has played very well lately. But it is the old problem of Dortmund: the continuity. Sometimes they play world-class against top teams, and the next time they play weak against a second-class team.

The only big surprise for me is the big defeat of Dortmund. This bad match will put Dortmund in a dangerous race with other clubs in their group. Haaland can not answer Mbappe with a goal and worse, Dortmund was beaten by 4 goals from Ajax. Matches like this will only convince Haaland to leave Dortmund and find a stronger, more ambitious club.

I think Haaland understands that Dortmund can not help him to win titles especially in Champions League. However it is a good club for Haaland to play as a main striker and at his age, playing regularly is important. It helps Haaland to sharpen his skills.

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Hala Madrid !
It's great that they won 5-0 over Shaktar. This is a sign that Madrid has not finished in the UCL. I think Shaktar can hold Madrid to a draw because seeing the history of matches Shaktar can always make it difficult for Madrid even their last 2 matches can always make Madrid cry.
Thanks to this victory, Madrid are in second place and Inter are down in 3rd place because they only got 4 points. There are still 3 games left. This makes the competition to qualify for the next phase more interesting, but I hope Madrid can sweep away victory in the remaining matches so they can qualify comfortably.

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