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Quote from: LTU_btc on October 20, 2021, 03:59:40 PM

MU played two completely different half's today. Outplayed by Atalanta completely in 1st and total dominance in 2nd. Ronaldo & co saves Solskjaer seat.
Benfica didn't deserved to lose 0:4. Bayern were better, but result don't fully reflect game, Benfica defended well until 1st goal.
Juve got difficult win against Zenit. Congrats for these who went with their win like me

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Young Boys - Villarreal. It was difficult to expect such big their win.
Very dull Barca performance, but win is win, that's most important thing. But it's good that Dynamo weren't able to offer anything in attack, otherwise it would be much more difficult.

A very contradictory result in terms of perception Cheesy

After 0-2, I felt a kind of relief - it seems like the horrors should end as it becomes obvious to everyone that it is time to decide something with the head coach (to hire a new one). But United were able to recoup and now we will suffer again, waiting for the outcome of this situation.
By the way, yesterday there was a pretty good performance - exactly 3 goals per game on average. Not as good as the day before yesterday (4.3) but also a lot of goals.

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as well as i already know that manchester united is a team that has created some losses for me in the bets i have made, for yesterday's games i decided to create some countermeasures to avoid these types of situations where manchester united would give me losses

I won on this bet, and I lost a small amount on the bet I made that atalanta would win

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Quote from: slaman29 on October 21, 2021, 02:54:29 AM

Quote from: Strongkored on October 21, 2021, 01:38:00 AM

That will certainly be an attractive profit for bettors who choose these odds, over 4.5 or even over 3.5 I very rarely choose it, only in last night's match in the match between Benfica vs Bayern and Chelsea vs Malmo, and I think this a coincidence to be a good choice.

There were many matches with over 3.5 but last night we also had a number of 1-goal games and even had the nil-nil game where Sevilla also seemed to be quite happy to not attack the French club at home. So still very risky for me to take these games and that's why I can't really understand goal markets well. But as I mentioned in an earlier post I should really start paying more attention for a varied betting.

While both teams have conceded and scored goals in the last few matches, then I think betting on 2.5 or higher could be a good option too. But about 4.5, I think it will be very risky, because to bet on a large number of goals at least we have to really understand the gameplay of the team, both the home team and the away team. Because if we only expect a lot of goals only from one side or from one team, to be honest it's very heavy and a risky bet but when you like challenges then I think it won't be a problem.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on October 21, 2021, 02:53:21 AM

After winning the Champions League match, Manchester United's management does not seem to be dismissing Ole now. Moreover it takes time to work with new teams and new players. Give Ole some more time, he'll be able to take the team to a better position. However, Manchester United's biggest problem at the moment is that their defense is very weak. The defender is able to perform well while playing well against a weak team, the performance against a strong team is poor.

In this last transfer market, Man United clearly doesn't reinforce the defense, which is currently its biggest weakness. I believe they will take advantage of the opening of the market in January, to try to strengthen their defence. Until then you have to be able to hold out as best you can.

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Quote from: Pettuh4 on October 20, 2021, 06:07:01 PM

I agree with you in part on the coach (Ole) because he's not that bad , and if the management could give him a little more time, spend on quality players to support Ronaldo rather than on a new coach, the old days could be back in no time. Don't forget Ole was scoring goals left right center like Ronaldo in his hay days and you shouldn't automatically render him tactically inept just because he's no longer playing. From Sir Alex, i believe he's the only United Coach who has brought about stability and understands the Team's culture. Lets help him succeed.

This is the part i wont agree with you on @Pettuh4. How is Ole now a good Manager? I think Ole is the luckiest clueless coach right now. Every time the team goes through a series of bad results, somehow Man Utd will win dramatically when we think it's the last straw, and everyone will forget about the terrible matches until it starts again.... its a never-ending cycle. He has all the caliber of players to grab a silverware. This current squad of man united players is better than Arsenal's squad that won two domestic cups under Arteta. Should we also talk about Leicester city ? What is stability without a any silverware? is that progress or dancing around the league? A team that wants to win something looks beyond just any coach and hire someone very sound tactically based on the type of league and competition involved.

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Quote from: BIT-BENDER on October 21, 2021, 02:05:11 AM

I don't know if Manchester United would still sack ole after they came back with a fantastic turn around yesterday against atalanta, and again cristiano ronaldo was their hero in the UEFA champions league night, but Manchester United can't be letting those amounts of goals they are conceding In the champions league and in the league I think the have one of the worst defense amongst english premier league top ten teams now.
Congratulations to Barcelona on the win I think they can still qualify from that group after Bayern Munich left it late but still won Benfica 4:0

Manchester United victory in the Champions League doesn't seem to have much of an impact on his future at Manchester United at this time, reportedly Manchester United is currently eyeing Zidane as a coach to replace Solskjaer later, Manchester United inconsistent performance is certainly the reason for the dismissal. Since the arrival of Ronaldo, the Manchester United squad has a leader who is able to motivate them to get up when they are losing and Ronaldo has shown his quality as a leader and also helps Manchester United to comeback in that match(Atlanta).

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Quote from: Strongkored on October 21, 2021, 01:38:00 AM

That will certainly be an attractive profit for bettors who choose these odds, over 4.5 or even over 3.5 I very rarely choose it, only in last night's match in the match between Benfica vs Bayern and Chelsea vs Malmo, and I think this a coincidence to be a good choice.

There were many matches with over 3.5 but last night we also had a number of 1-goal games and even had the nil-nil game where Sevilla also seemed to be quite happy to not attack the French club at home. So still very risky for me to take these games and that's why I can't really understand goal markets well. But as I mentioned in an earlier post I should really start paying more attention for a varied betting.

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Quote from: BIT-BENDER on October 21, 2021, 02:05:11 AM

I don't know if Manchester United would still sack ole after they came back with a fantastic turn around yesterday against atalanta, and again cristiano ronaldo was their hero in the UEFA champions league night, but Manchester United can't be letting those amounts of goals they are conceding In the champions league and in the league I think the have one of the worst defense amongst english premier league top ten teams now.

After winning the Champions League match, Manchester United's management does not seem to be dismissing Ole now. Moreover it takes time to work with new teams and new players. Give Ole some more time, he'll be able to take the team to a better position. However, Manchester United's biggest problem at the moment is that their defense is very weak. The defender is able to perform well while playing well against a weak team, the performance against a strong team is poor.

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Quote from: joker_josue on October 21, 2021, 01:43:55 AM

And once again, Cristiano Ronaldo was decisive in scoring an excellent header giving victory to Man United. The season is only halfway through and Ronaldo, for the work he has done, has more than justified his hiring.

Cristiano's aura can boost any team and it's been proven one more time how strong it is. Without him, Man Utd will be out already from CL and more than 5 points from the top of EPL. As for Atalanta, again it shows how good they attack and how badly they defend... Roll Eyes

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I don't know if Manchester United would still sack ole after they came back with a fantastic turn around yesterday against atalanta,

Manchester United should sack him if they don't want to waste more time. Again Ole was saved by his players. How many times was he saved by his players? A lot, by Pogba, Bruno, Greenwood, Rashford, Cavani or Ronaldo.

Ole is clear that is supported by the club's management for some unknown reason, which I can't understand. He can manage a team of this calibre, it's more than obvious and I totally agree that if they don't hire a new, more experienced manager, they will waste time and of course points everywhere.

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Quote from: BIT-BENDER on October 21, 2021, 02:05:11 AM

Congratulations to Barcelona on the win I think they can still qualify from that group after Bayern Munich left it late but still won Benfica 4:0

Barcelona is not playing well, even Benfica was able to win Dynamo Kyiv flawlessly in a away match, Barcelona still find it difficult to score more than 1 in a home match, I am predicting Benfica may qualify but it can be in other way though. Benfica is still topping the table after Bayern

It is clear that Bayern is playing with inferior even including Barcelona to be inferior this time, Bayern will likely win all matches, it will still play with both Barcelona and Benfica in home matches, but what might be the determinant is the match between Benfica and Barcelona, but at Benfica's home.

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Quote from: BIT-BENDER on October 21, 2021, 02:05:11 AM

I don't know if Manchester United would still sack ole after they came back with a fantastic turn around yesterday against atalanta,

Manchester United should sack him if they don't want to waste more time. Again Ole was saved by his players. How many times was he saved by his players? A lot, by Pogba, Bruno, Greenwood, Rashford, Cavani or Ronaldo.

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again cristiano ronaldo was their hero in the UEFA champions league night, but Manchester United can't be letting those amounts of goals they are conceding In the champions league and in the league I think the have one of the worst defense amongst english premier league top ten teams now.

Ronaldo can help Manchester United to go to the 1/16 or 1/8 round but he won't be able to carry Manchester United to the semi-final or final match in Champions League. Ole must improve the defense system and try to bring more creativeness for the attacking system. Three seasons and he failed to improve defense for Manchester United. He relies on Maguire for defense and Bruno for creativeness. Now Ronaldo for goals.

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I don't know if Manchester United would still sack ole after they came back with a fantastic turn around yesterday against atalanta, and again cristiano ronaldo was their hero in the UEFA champions league night, but Manchester United can't be letting those amounts of goals they are conceding In the champions league and in the league I think the have one of the worst defense amongst english premier league top ten teams now.
Congratulations to Barcelona on the win I think they can still qualify from that group after Bayern Munich left it late but still won Benfica 4:0

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Quote from: 3meek on October 21, 2021, 01:38:55 AM

What a great game Man U vs Atalanta! I certainly expected Manchester United to win this match, but for them to get out of such a losing situation nobody could have guessed! By the way this game reminded me of another match from the Europa League - Spartak vs Leicester... There was exactly the same situation... Yesterday the English showed their fighting spirit! Grin

Of course Manchester United will only become better with the passing of time.This time is needed for Ronaldo to harmonize with the rest of the team,it is not yet completed but once it does it will become a symphony for football fans.When England teams play in their full capacity is only natural that they are better than Serie A teams,the Premier League is much more competitive than the Serie A right now.

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Quote from: 3meek on October 21, 2021, 01:38:55 AM

What a great game Man U vs Atalanta! I certainly expected Manchester United to win this match, but for them to get out of such a losing situation nobody could have guessed! By the way this game reminded me of another match from the Europa League - Spartak vs Leicester... There was exactly the same situation... Yesterday the English showed their fighting spirit! Grin

What was said at the dressing room really made all the difference for Man United! They were simply incredible in the second half, and with all merit they managed to win.

And once again, Cristiano Ronaldo was decisive in scoring an excellent header giving victory to Man United. The season is only halfway through and Ronaldo, for the work he has done, has more than justified his hiring.

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What a great game Man U vs Atalanta! I certainly expected Manchester United to win this match, but for them to get out of such a losing situation nobody could have guessed! By the way this game reminded me of another match from the Europa League - Spartak vs Leicester... There was exactly the same situation... Yesterday the English showed their fighting spirit! Grin

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Quote from: slaman29 on October 20, 2021, 02:04:26 AM

I wonder if anyone knows what the odds were for over 4.5 goals. Sportsbet had a special for something like over 1.5 goals each and over 19.5 booking points each, and over 1.5 corners each, which for sure never in my mind I would ever take but who on earth could see this result coming right guys?

That will certainly be an attractive profit for bettors who choose these odds, over 4.5 or even over 3.5 I very rarely choose it, only in last night's match in the match between Benfica vs Bayern and Chelsea vs Malmo, and I think this a coincidence to be a good choice.

Quote from: zuzie on October 21, 2021, 01:17:22 AM

Now we can only hope that Manchester is consistent with this situation not give up even though it's left behind

We'll see in this week's match if they can get out of the pressure or give the pressure their opponent first.

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Quote from: $crypto$ on October 20, 2021, 02:00:50 PM

Barcelona still has more challenges to face in the UCL, especially Bayern and Benfica were not able to beat Barca before.

With what I am predicting to happen, Bayern will lead in the table, follow by Benfica, folllow by Barcelona while Dynamo Kyiv will be the last. Barconal are not that strong this season due to the absence of L. Messi.

Quote from: KingsDen on October 21, 2021, 01:22:17 AM

Manchester United come back shouldn't have been a surprise to us if not for the present condition of the club.
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To be candid it was a great surprise for me, but I see how C. Ronaldo is scoring for the club in late minute, this will not take the club go anywhere, this is just what I noticed that will happen when they are facing stronger clubs. Atlanta scored 2 in first half while Man United still won the game, but a lot of such matches though.

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Quote from: Woodie on October 20, 2021, 08:12:42 PM

Whichever way you look at it yesterday's games headliners has to be Manchester Uniteds comeback compliments of Cristiano Ronaldo last say! Am a United fan and I thought two goals down in Champions League football means game over but it seems Rashford scored the first manu goal which inspired the comeback and the rest is history...that performance did just keep the teams Champions League aspirations alive but the coach's job too because of late his really not getting the results. Bravo boys!!

Another game which caught my eye was the Benfica vs Bayern Munich match, Bayern seem to be a team that are never tired of scoring and if they keep playing like this then I see them getting this one.

Manchester United come back shouldn't have been a surprise to us if not for the present condition of the club.
1. Why should Manchester United go 2goals down against Atlanta the first place. Okay! Let's say it's football anything can happen.
2. Manchester United has made better comebacks, but they make it against big clubs like Liverpool, PSG and not Atlanta, maybe Besiktas.
Now, Manchester United is seating at the top of the table, can they be very comfortable to play the Liverpool side this weekend?

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Quote from: W Jr. on October 21, 2021, 01:02:38 AM

Great comeback from Manchester United! Although they lost 2-0 in the first half, they managed to win 3-2 with a great game in the second half. Ronaldo scored again. Manchester United became the Leader of the group with this win. Not many people could have predicted this comeback when the first half was over. They faced the shock of defeat in the match where he entered the halftime comfortably in Atalanta.

Getting 0-2 home in the first half wasn't good at all, ManU managed to comeback in the second half but our expectations for this team wasn't reached yet..
ManU with such team should play and score like Bayern or Chelsea, not struggle to win each time Undecided

Teams in Group F have very close points, 3, 4 and 6..which means you cannot guarantee which team could pass before the last game probably and that their levels are close from each other theoretically..

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Quote from: W Jr. on October 21, 2021, 01:02:38 AM

Great comeback from Manchester United! Although they lost 2-0 in the first half, they managed to win 3-2 with a great game in the second half. Ronaldo scored again. Manchester United became the Leader of the group with this win. Not many people could have predicted this comeback when the first half was over. They faced the shock of defeat in the match where he entered the halftime comfortably in Atalanta.

We see a lot of praise from fans for what Manchester did whereas before the coach got a lot of blasphemy for some Manchester's defeat
Now we can only hope that Manchester is consistent with this situation not give up even though it's left behind

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