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September 30, 2021, 02:47:48 AM
I don't think any of us expecting such shock result. Barcelona can lose but 0 - 3 is a shock result. I don't feel any strange or surprise if Barcelona lose matches with their squad. They are becoming another Arsenal and I think Messi can feel happy now in PSG. He would have not been able to do anything now, if he had stayed in Barcelona.

I think the problem is not just the lack of Messi. Barcelona, with time, started to settle for the victories and stopped evolving. Now it is in a new phase of restructuring, but it seems that things are still not going as expected.
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September 30, 2021, 02:45:45 AM
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Gone are the days that Manchester United will be one goal down and remain confident of winning the match. Under the current form of Ole, Manchester United best result tonight is draw.

Big Ups to Cristiano Ronaldo, always there to make delivery for Manchester United.
Ole Gunner Solskjaer needs to get trained tactically.
Great come back, come back Kings.


@Ebede Ole himself admitted that this was a lucky win, and if he yet doesn’t improve his tactics then Manchester United is doomed for this season too. Also I don’t understand why doesn’t he unleash Van De Beek, because he could change this side and Van De Beek too wasn’t happy about being left on the bench.

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https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11945/12421438/ole-gunnar-solskjaer-says-champions-league-nights-at-man-utd-are-magic-after-late-cristiano-ronaldo-winner

https://www.sportbible.com/football/football-news-donny-van-de-beek-was-visibly-furious-being-left-on-the-bench-20210929
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September 30, 2021, 02:44:58 AM
Damn, of the many opportunities Chelsea created but none of them scored...

juventus leads group H. btw juventus is very lucky not to be humiliated by chelsea at home.

Luck is not the only aspect that make them win, but they also played well with strategy. All players played as what they should do, minimize mistakes and maximize counter attack. I have to say good job for Allegri with his strategy although he lost some important players (Dybala and Morata) but he could do his job well.
Yes, after all, Juventus is also not a mediocre team so this victory is proof that Allegri is able to return the form of Juventus' game to the way it should be. Instead of being surprised by the Juventus result, I think the more surprising result came from Barcelona, maybe if only losing by one or two goals is still acceptable but Barcelona actually lost by the same score as against Bayern Munich in the first match.
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September 30, 2021, 02:44:30 AM
Federico Chiesa had an excellent match his goal is another confirmation overall the London team had a good match sorry we lost.
Very happy for Benfica however Barcelona's game was not hopeless and the teams certainly did not play enough for such an account.
Although how many goals can we expect from the team where Luuk de Jong plays?
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September 30, 2021, 02:27:44 AM
Chelsea tried everything they could but still there was no goal from them. Juventus managed to score with Chiesa and Bernardeschi made the assist. To be honest, I can't say that it was a really deserved win for Juventus. Chelsea could have scored even a few goals but they were very bad at scoring. One shot on target out of 13 shots is a very bad statistics.
It is a tight match and Juventus has players who decide the match. Chiesa gradually becomes one of most important players of Juventus. The last season is a preparation and this one will be the first season, Chiesa takes the official position in the squad. After Euro 2020 and his performance so far, I see he is very talented.

He missed one chance but also scored one important goal for Juventus.

Benfica won 3-0 against Barcelona, I wasn't expecting it. It was a great game for Benfica's team, which showed incredible quality in all sides of the game. The early goal in the game suffered by Barcelona, affected the team a lot. Benfica, on the other hand, had a lot of morale to continue to pressure and hold on to the Spanish team.
I don't think any of us expecting such shock result. Barcelona can lose but 0 - 3 is a shock result. I don't feel any strange or surprise if Barcelona lose matches with their squad. They are becoming another Arsenal and I think Messi can feel happy now in PSG. He would have not been able to do anything now, if he had stayed in Barcelona.
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September 30, 2021, 02:19:19 AM
Damn, of the many opportunities Chelsea created but none of them scored...

juventus leads group H. btw juventus is very lucky not to be humiliated by chelsea at home.

Luck is not the only aspect that make them win, but they also played well with strategy. All players played as what they should do, minimize mistakes and maximize counter attack. I have to say good job for Allegri with his strategy although he lost some important players (Dybala and Morata) but he could do his job well.
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September 29, 2021, 10:18:11 PM
Can Benfica be the Sheriff of tonight?
The journey is deep into the 2nd half and Barcelona is still one goal down. When you look at the statistics, you will discover that Barcelona is better in all the statistics except on Shots on goal and Counter Attack. This is a clear indication that Benfica is more goal minded than Barcelona.

Gone are the days that Manchester United will be one goal down and remain confident of winning the match. Under the current form of Ole, Manchester United best result tonight is draw.

Big Ups to Cristiano Ronaldo, always there to make delivery for Manchester United.
Ole Gunner Solskjaer needs to get trained tactically.
Great come back, come back Kings.

Indeed,benfica show strength over Barcelona in this game, putting three past them, loading more pressure on the shoulders of koeman,all road leads to a tough time between one of their bitter rivals Athletico Madrid.
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September 29, 2021, 10:08:39 PM
Is Barcelona's chance to advance to the next round still wide open? two bad results experienced in a row and they have conceded 6 goals in two games without scoring at all so far, Bayern have a place in the last 16 and Benfica have 4 points so far, the remaining 4 games must be taken advantage of Barcelona if they want to keep their chances of qualifying for the last 16, this is the worst start for Barcelona for several years, especially the impact after being left by Messi.

Same is applicable to Manchester United likewise, they need to win the games left for them, this is in order to boss the group also avoiding tough opponents further in the round of 16 sixteen.

IMO, I think Manchester United was pretty lucky last night, they have a good squad but ends up playing poorly in the pitch.
Ole Gunner Solskjaer ain't looking sharp for the job no more.
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September 29, 2021, 09:23:24 PM
Is Barcelona's chance to advance to the next round still wide open? two bad results experienced in a row and they have conceded 6 goals in two games without scoring at all so far, Bayern have a place in the last 16 and Benfica have 4 points so far, the remaining 4 games must be taken advantage of Barcelona if they want to keep their chances of qualifying for the last 16, this is the worst start for Barcelona for several years, especially the impact after being left by Messi.
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September 29, 2021, 08:31:42 PM
Triple goals back to back for Barcelona to concede in Champions league competition that made them sit is bottom of a group in which Dynamo Kiev, Benfica and Bayern after two rounds without scoring no goal and in his net 6 goals.
Barcelona did not shoot once against Bayern and did not shoot once against Benfica.
Everything is negative in Barca and Koeman is still on the job. Most likely not for too long.
I had a good feeling that Benfica would win this game but didn't think that Barcelona will be at this bad and have nothing to show for.
4 games left for Barcelona and their chances to advance are getting very slim.

probably in group E Barcelona and Dynamo Kyiv will compete for the 3rd place which gives a possibility to play in Europa League. with current performance Barcelona don't deserve to qualify for the next stage of Champions League.

Barcelona have a chance to win in the last 3 matches and 2 matches will be played at Camp Nou if Barcelona are able to win these 3 matches then they still have a chance to qualify with 9 points, Barcelona must beat Benfica in 2nd leg next they also have to beat Dynamo kyiv, I don't think it's a difficult opponent. Munich can certainly help Barcelona if they win all the games in group E .
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September 29, 2021, 08:08:44 PM
losing to Benfica like a team in portuguese lower tier

Benfica is a strong team at the beginning of the Portuguese league season, so it's no surprise that they beat Barcelona, which is an extremely weak team, even La Liga, if we look at it very well, we realize that:

1 - Barcelona is weak

2 - real madrid is weak

3 - Atletico is weak

one cannot be surprised with bad results if the Spanish teams lose

makes Barcelona a potential prey to athletico Madrid this weekend

definitely not, Atletico is weak, Barcelona has a great chance of beating Atletico
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September 29, 2021, 08:02:00 PM
Damn, of the many opportunities Chelsea created but none of them scored...
Juventus has changed, they have risen since 3 last games. Chelsea didn't see that. Even though Paulo Dybala and Alvaro Morata got injured, another player has successfully replaced them, Chiesa is a hero. I think Chelsea should be watchful but in the fact they are careless, they did not consider if Juventus is a ”La Vecchia Signora”.

Ronaldo again, I don't know why they forget this person. he will create score a goal if given the ball (even Penalty, free kick, etc) he is an experienced player. if want to create many scores Mu players must give all balls to Ronaldo, not only stuck at the beginning and hoping to him on injury time.
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September 29, 2021, 07:44:14 PM
Kooman destoryed Barcelona in his time as a coach i think he will be sacked really soon.
I can agree with you this time. Looks like Koeman cannot manage Barcelona properly, another loss in UCL is a warning for Barcelona management to consider firing him. After losing some points in La Liga matches, Koeman shows us bad results in UCL as well. I think we all realize that Barcelona is possible to be eliminated in the group phase. It is very shameful for a big club like Barcelona.

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September 29, 2021, 07:28:23 PM
Triple goals back to back for Barcelona to concede in Champions league competition that made them sit is bottom of a group in which Dynamo Kiev, Benfica and Bayern after two rounds without scoring no goal and in his net 6 goals.
Barcelona did not shoot once against Bayern and did not shoot once against Benfica.
Everything is negative in Barca and Koeman is still on the job. Most likely not for too long.
I had a good feeling that Benfica would win this game but didn't think that Barcelona will be at this bad and have nothing to show for.
4 games left for Barcelona and their chances to advance are getting very slim.

probably in group E Barcelona and Dynamo Kyiv will compete for the 3rd place which gives a possibility to play in Europa League. with current performance Barcelona don't deserve to qualify for the next stage of Champions League.
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September 29, 2021, 07:22:34 PM
Chelsea beaten one goal to nil in Turin which shows their momentum had slowed down since facing city,could these guys be fatigued from playing city over the weekend and couldn't keep up with Juventus.

Less not forget about on of the favourites of the champions league, Bayern Munich who won with a good number of goals (5 -0 to be exact) sending their intentions that they are here for business and no one will stop them.

And of course we can't end here without acknowledging CR7s contribution that saved united with a 3 points that was needed the most and that also revenged Uniteds loss in the last Europa finals.

Great games witnessed today, hats off to you lads.
I wouldn't say that we couldn't keep up, Juventus just scored one more goal. In general, Juventus at least scored something, unlike Chelsea Grin Bayern Munich has already put on stream the defeat of its rivals both in the Bundesliga and in the Champions League, and soon the fact of a major loss from Bayern will probably no longer serve as a factor of great upset for the rivals Grin Even if Cristiano Ronaldo was going to rest and was not going to score in the current round of the Champions League, the very fact that his sworn friend Lionel Messi scored a goal undoubtedly forced the Portuguese to make every effort and respond with his goal in the last minutes Grin
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September 29, 2021, 07:17:39 PM
Let's stay realistic a little bit Tongue
Bayern humiliation of its opponents continues and they scored 5 goals, 2 by Lewandowski. But wait we have another surprise for today.. Barca's defeat vs Benfica with 3 goals to 0! Same score as their previous match vs Bayern.. Things aren't going well there and Koeman being sacked might be a matter of time.
Mm can I call Chelsea defeat vs Juve as another surprise?
Bayern is been too brutal this season I think Barcelona was a bit lucky not to have been disgraced much enough in their earlier match with Bayern. Bayern vs Dynamo was full of humiliation as described at op but we weren't expecting less to be sincere. 5:0 was just a perfect score lone with brilliant finish from lewandoski.

For Barcelona vs Benfica I will say Barcelona isn't full on form this season. They have lots of work to do to replace the legends that have left the club and also build a good working teammates. It's too obvious Barcelona wouldn't make it through the group stage
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September 29, 2021, 07:07:49 PM
Damn, of the many opportunities Chelsea created but none of them scored...

juventus leads group H. btw juventus is very lucky not to be humiliated by chelsea at home.

Minus 6 goals, no points, no goal, bottom of group E unbelievable this is barcelona I just described in 2021/2022 UEFA champions league, if Messi was just the greatest players of all time, him leaving Barcelona won't have made them this bad, Messi was everything to Barcelona, now is like Barcelona, teeth and claws has been removed, they are so ordinary, losing to Benfica like a team in portuguese lower tier, makes Barcelona a potential prey to athletico Madrid this weekend, I think I would sack koeman now before Barcelona becomes like arsenal.
looks like barca are in crisis, will they be able to qualify for the next round!
Freakin unlucky chelsea, but classic italian club tactic to use counter attack...  its been predicted but they keep it till the last minute, well done allegri.
lukaku should have scored if he just make a little touch to chip the ball through sczesny dammit, freakin unlucky.

about barcelona crazy poor form, i just think that it is the greatest time to bet on barcelona to get through group phase  Grin it must have really really nice odds! go allin!
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September 29, 2021, 06:57:09 PM
Triple goals back to back for Barcelona to concede in Champions league competition that made them sit is bottom of a group in which Dynamo Kiev, Benfica and Bayern after two rounds without scoring no goal and in his net 6 goals.
Barcelona did not shoot once against Bayern and did not shoot once against Benfica.
Everything is negative in Barca and Koeman is still on the job. Most likely not for too long.
I had a good feeling that Benfica would win this game but didn't think that Barcelona will be at this bad and have nothing to show for.
4 games left for Barcelona and their chances to advance are getting very slim.
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September 29, 2021, 06:54:56 PM
FCB Champions league misery, Koeman's fault or the financial crisis?
Barcelona should be no where better than the bottom of their group, having lost two group matches consecutively to the big boys of Germany and the underatted Portugal club.
Critically examining the situation, would Koeman have done better or we should blame the management. I think I blame the coach because he is not doing bad in Laliga.
Why did he try three teenagers in UCL or was he thinking De Jong was Messi?
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September 29, 2021, 06:42:51 PM
Chelsea beaten one goal to nil in Turin which shows their momentum had slowed down since facing city,could these guys be fatigued from playing city over the weekend and couldn't keep up with Juventus.

Less not forget about on of the favourites of the champions league, Bayern Munich who won with a good number of goals (5 -0 to be exact) sending their intentions that they are here for business and no one will stop them.

And of course we can't end here without acknowledging CR7s contribution that saved united with a 3 points that was needed the most and that also revenged Uniteds loss in the last Europa finals.

Great games witnessed today, hats off to you lads.
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