UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread - page 629.

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Quote from: masulum on September 30, 2021, 10:40:20 AM

Quote from: RapTarX on September 30, 2021, 09:15:16 AM

Same here

I thought I was winning the match. Last night was a nightmare for me. I lost all the bets. Placed bet for Barcelona to draw & Chelsea to win as well but both of the team messed up; I didn’t expect Chelsea to lose at all.
Besides, I had placed bet for both team to score in all this three matches. Win only one. Out of 6 matches, I won only one LOL. I need to have a break.

Wow, this is really bad buddy, you really have to rest before betting again. For the prediction of MU winning, it's no longer surprising, I see a little chance of a draw based on statistics, haha. But, for Chelsea, I don't believe they can lose to Juventus who in their domestic league are in bad form, even though Chelsea are doing quite well in possession, they failed to make an effective attack even though they also have a lot of shot on goal.

That's what usually happens when a match brings together a top team, usually the team that wins ball possession will actually find it more difficult or dull to score a goal. Actually, implementing a counter-attack strategy can be good and may also be a blunder if weak in defense, it seems that Juventus managed to implement this strategy and were able to break Chelsea's dominance. To be honest, I always lose bets for UCL but I don't really mind, because I can reverse bets every week for every league that rolls, so you don't lose alone here. Grin

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Quote from: RapTarX on September 30, 2021, 09:15:16 AM

Quote from: masulum on September 30, 2021, 06:46:58 AM

Ronaldo's goal in the additional times, has burning my smile, bcoz i bet for draw in this matches Shocked

Same here

I thought I was winning the match. Last night was a nightmare for me. I lost all the bets. Placed bet for Barcelona to draw & Chelsea to win as well but both of the team messed up; I didn’t expect Chelsea to lose at all.
Besides, I had placed bet for both team to score in all this three matches. Win only one. Out of 6 matches, I won only one LOL. I need to have a break.

Not only you I also lost a bet because of the chaos from Barcelona and Chelsea that had to drop which I didn't expect, and the saddest thing was that Barcelona couldn't score a single goal against Benfica so this is really bad what I see in the current season for Barcelona.

I thought with Chelsea's continuous attack I could get back a goal or win but in fact it's still nil even with so many chances Lukaku can't enter it, ahh the main thing is that both teams I bet on are bad in UCL matches.

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Quote from: RapTarX on September 30, 2021, 09:15:16 AM

Quote from: masulum on September 30, 2021, 06:46:58 AM

Ronaldo's goal in the additional times, has burning my smile, bcoz i bet for draw in this matches Shocked

Same here

I thought I was winning the match. Last night was a nightmare for me. I lost all the bets. Placed bet for Barcelona to draw & Chelsea to win as well but both of the team messed up; I didn’t expect Chelsea to lose at all.
Besides, I had placed bet for both team to score in all this three matches. Win only one. Out of 6 matches, I won only one LOL. I need to have a break.

i did the same for chelsea

because i thought for sure chelsea would win the match easily because considering chelsea's performance was very good.
and i bet everything on chelsea and what happened i lost all

but it is very likely to happen considering football can all happen in 90 minutes of a game.
and in this match I realized one thing, apart from the factor of calm and concentration, the luck factor also plays a role. a team that attacks all out and controls the ball as much as anything like chelsea which last night controlled the ball up to 70% more does not mean that the team can win the game easily.

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Quote from: Doell on September 30, 2021, 07:06:01 AM

Quote from: masulum on September 30, 2021, 06:46:58 AM

Ronaldo's goal in the additional times, has burning my smile, bcoz i bet for draw in this matches Shocked

Personally, I see that Villareal will make it difficult for United during the game, so I believe that the match will end in a draw. What I expect is proven, Villareal put up a fight against Manchester United. Unfortunately, Ronaldo made a surprise in the last minutes with 1 goal which he created.

unfortunately you are out of luck Cheesy

ronaldo always surprises at the end of the game villarreal should be more aware of his presence for that ,but what I see is that he is very difficult to beat and the goal in the last minute amazed me his performance is still the same even though he is getting older
I hope next time you are more lucky for your bet

Manchester United were very fortunate to come out with the win. For those that duly followed through the match will agree with me that individual qualities came through in the die minute. Imagine there weren't such an intuitive quality baller like CR7 on pitch yesterday. It's already a draw game. And we we're lucky to catch up in the second half. Villarreal were better in first half. Created chances with much target on goal but De Gea came through. They were really lucky to pick those three points. Villarreal could have won easily have they utilized their chances well. Ole lacks it the quality, that tactical approach. No one can analysis our pattern of play. No pattern no tactics. It will tell now or later. He might get lucky yesterday but Ole's failure will still catch up with him.

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hmph..

Quote from: RapTarX on September 30, 2021, 09:15:16 AM

Same here

I thought I was winning the match. Last night was a nightmare for me. I lost all the bets. Placed bet for Barcelona to draw & Chelsea to win as well but both of the team messed up; I didn’t expect Chelsea to lose at all.
Besides, I had placed bet for both team to score in all this three matches. Win only one. Out of 6 matches, I won only one LOL. I need to have a break.

Wow, this is really bad buddy, you really have to rest before betting again. For the prediction of MU winning, it's no longer surprising, I see a little chance of a draw based on statistics, haha. But, for Chelsea, I don't believe they can lose to Juventus who in their domestic league are in bad form, even though Chelsea are doing quite well in possession, they failed to make an effective attack even though they also have a lot of shot on goal.

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Quote from: borovichok on September 30, 2021, 10:24:11 AM

I don't think Koeman need to be sack,he needs time to rebuild this team

They can't afford to sack him though. I think I mentioned the terms of his contract a couple of weeks ago in another post. There is the 6 million pay-off they have to give him to let him go, and I can't see that they can pay it even if they wanted him out. But equally Koeman is stuck, because he needs money to rebuild the team... and there isn't any.

Barca are in a bit of a mess at the moment, and they can't buy their way out of it. I can't see what they can do other than promote their own youth players.

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Quote from: borovichok on September 30, 2021, 10:24:11 AM

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Quote from: kro55 on September 30, 2021, 06:53:36 AM

Poor performance by Barcelona. They are already at the bottom of the table. Though the stage matches are not done yet, but if they don't win the next match against Dynamo, they will be in great trouble. A draw will not be even enough for them to qualify to the next round I'm guessing. Pretty hard times ahead for them without Messi. Now it is getting clearer how important Messi was for them.

Now Barcelona must win both Dynamo Kiev games, also beat Benfica differently at home and get at least one point from Bayern Munich game or they don't even have a chance to be second. Things got really tough for them. The matches that Benfica will play will be decisive. If Benfica lose points in their home match against Kiev, then Barcelona may have a bigger chance. I haven't seen Barcelona this desperate in a long time. Players are backing Koeman though.

I don't think Koeman need to be sack,he needs time to rebuild this team, because this team is so average,if they can win Benefica in the second leg then they have big shot going to the knockout stage.we don't expect a team that has just lose Lionel Messi to be in top form, without bringing a top replacement, sacking him is not a good idea because the new coach will start afresh.and he we still struggle at the beginning.

Not all fault made by Koeman why Barcelona failed on this year, all it happen because financial crisis happening with Barcelona and they should left by many player exactly most important player left Barcelona in this season, from Lionel Messi until Grizmann have go away from Barcelona and they not find the same quality player change position left by them, I think giving minutes more for young player is not enough right now and Barcelona should get new player on this window transfer.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on September 30, 2021, 08:47:05 AM

Quote from: kro55 on September 30, 2021, 06:53:36 AM

Poor performance by Barcelona. They are already at the bottom of the table. Though the stage matches are not done yet, but if they don't win the next match against Dynamo, they will be in great trouble. A draw will not be even enough for them to qualify to the next round I'm guessing. Pretty hard times ahead for them without Messi. Now it is getting clearer how important Messi was for them.

Now Barcelona must win both Dynamo Kiev games, also beat Benfica differently at home and get at least one point from Bayern Munich game or they don't even have a chance to be second. Things got really tough for them. The matches that Benfica will play will be decisive. If Benfica lose points in their home match against Kiev, then Barcelona may have a bigger chance. I haven't seen Barcelona this desperate in a long time. Players are backing Koeman though.

I don't think Koeman need to be sack,he needs time to rebuild this team, because this team is so average,if they can win Benefica in the second leg then they have big shot going to the knockout stage.we don't expect a team that has just lose Lionel Messi to be in top form, without bringing a top replacement, sacking him is not a good idea because the new coach will start afresh.and he we still struggle at the beginning.

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Quote from: Woodie on September 30, 2021, 05:57:06 AM

Was really distracted with other results of the day and other players individual performances and just learnt of Barcelonas humiliating result which comes just a day after their counterparts Real Madrid were stunned with a shocking result. What's really happening in LA liga?? Most Spanish teams have failed to perform in the champions league....Atletico Madrid had to dig deep to turn this around but now teams like Barca failing to even get a goal...who would have seen this coming?? If we continue on this path expect coaches to be sacked in the near future. Not a Barca fan but it's now worrying with the results these guys bring forth.
Benfica 3-0 Barcelona

This was a really tough transfer window for the La Liga teams, specially Real Madrid and Barcelona. They lost their important players, Real lost Ramos and Varane the two pillars of their defense over the years and Barcelona lost their Gem Messi and Griezmann. These players were so vital to these teams. Real's lack of defense was very noticeable. And Barca is not able to score without Messi. They are not even creating those chances. Tough times ahead for La Liga up ahead. I'm guessing La Liga's viewership also went downwards after this window.

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The group stage is full of surprises until this moment and the next is greater.
United, if they were without Ronaldo and De Gea, their score would be a point after two rounds Maximum.
Sheriff leading a group in which Real, Inter and Shakhtar with two victories.
Barcelona without points and without a shot on goal after two rounds and bottom of the standings.
Milan played two games From the highest performance possible and still lost both times after they were in the the lead in the result.
Chelsea was defeated by Juve without Morata and Dybala and did not pose any danger throughout the match.
City created dozens of opportunities to score and lost to PSG with two goals, each one sweeter than the other.
Sebastian Haller scored 5 goals with Ajax after only two matches.
Inter lost and tied after two rounds, as if the Champions League is their difficult point.

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Quote from: masulum on September 30, 2021, 06:46:58 AM

Ronaldo's goal in the additional times, has burning my smile, bcoz i bet for draw in this matches Shocked

Personally, I see that Villareal will make it difficult for United during the game, so I believe that the match will end in a draw. What I expect is proven, Villareal put up a fight against Manchester United. Unfortunately, Ronaldo made a surprise in the last minutes with 1 goal which he created.

Actually I was worried from the start when Villareal was able to make a kick on goal and was denied by De Gea. After that they continued to use the right side of the MU defense. How bad United's defense I think, if De Gea didn't perform well maybe Villarreal would have been 2-0 up in 20 minutes. Their counterattack was effective and more dangerous. United's midfield creation didn't seem to be developing, they had the ball but very rarely made a danger against defen Villareal's.

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Quote from: masulum on September 30, 2021, 06:46:58 AM

Ronaldo's goal in the additional times, has burning my smile, bcoz i bet for draw in this matches Shocked

Same here

I thought I was winning the match. Last night was a nightmare for me. I lost all the bets. Placed bet for Barcelona to draw & Chelsea to win as well but both of the team messed up; I didn’t expect Chelsea to lose at all.
Besides, I had placed bet for both team to score in all this three matches. Win only one. Out of 6 matches, I won only one LOL. I need to have a break.

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Quote from: kro55 on September 30, 2021, 06:53:36 AM

Poor performance by Barcelona. They are already at the bottom of the table. Though the stage matches are not done yet, but if they don't win the next match against Dynamo, they will be in great trouble. A draw will not be even enough for them to qualify to the next round I'm guessing. Pretty hard times ahead for them without Messi. Now it is getting clearer how important Messi was for them.

Now Barcelona must win both Dynamo Kiev games, also beat Benfica differently at home and get at least one point from Bayern Munich game or they don't even have a chance to be second. Things got really tough for them. The matches that Benfica will play will be decisive. If Benfica lose points in their home match against Kiev, then Barcelona may have a bigger chance. I haven't seen Barcelona this desperate in a long time. Players are backing Koeman though.

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I expected Chelsea to win the game against Juventus last night. And they showed a huge effort also. But they were terrible when it comes to finishing. And it cost them 3 points. Because Juventus still scored somehow although their forwards were injured. And both of the players who were playing as forwards contributed to this goal. And you know Juventus after scoring first in tournaments like this. They are very good at keeping the score till the end. That was what happened in this game also.

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Quote from: masulum on September 30, 2021, 06:46:58 AM

Ronaldo's goal in the additional times, has burning my smile, bcoz i bet for draw in this matches Shocked

Personally, I see that Villareal will make it difficult for United during the game, so I believe that the match will end in a draw. What I expect is proven, Villareal put up a fight against Manchester United. Unfortunately, Ronaldo made a surprise in the last minutes with 1 goal which he created.

unfortunately you are out of luck Cheesy

ronaldo always surprises at the end of the game villarreal should be more aware of his presence for that ,but what I see is that he is very difficult to beat and the goal in the last minute amazed me his performance is still the same even though he is getting older
I hope next time you are more lucky for your bet

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Quote from: Juggy777 on September 30, 2021, 02:45:45 AM

Also I don’t understand why doesn’t he unleash Van De Beek, because he could change this side and Van De Beek too wasn’t happy about being left on the bench.

Ole is not a versatile coach. He is ready to stick to anything that shoes the sign of work for him. When he tried Tommy and Fred pair that seems that it worked for a few matches, when it wasn't working again it became difficult for him to revert.
If not for the pressure of fans, Sancho should be in the bench now became he doesn't figure out how he will fit. Yet, Sancho's role is yet to be defined by Ole. He played Pogba up front and got more than 5 assists in two matches, yet he doesn't figure out how to continue using him.
Don't bother, let Rashford return to this team, the you will be surprised how clueless Ole is. So, Ole has no place for VDB

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Quote from: KTChampions on September 30, 2021, 06:07:20 AM

Benfica 3-0 Barcelona
Given the fact that there is still a match in Munich ahead (where the next major defeat is likely to be), Barcelona should not lose a point in matches with Dynamo and hope for a rematch at home, otherwise it has very real chances to end the performance already at this stage. But in fact, it is not entirely clear what the point is to advance to the next round, where a strong opponent is guaranteed.

Poor performance by Barcelona. They are already at the bottom of the table. Though the stage matches are not done yet, but if they don't win the next match against Dynamo, they will be in great trouble. A draw will not be even enough for them to qualify to the next round I'm guessing. Pretty hard times ahead for them without Messi. Now it is getting clearer how important Messi was for them.

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hmph..

Ronaldo's goal in the additional times, has burning my smile, bcoz i bet for draw in this matches Shocked

Personally, I see that Villareal will make it difficult for United during the game, so I believe that the match will end in a draw. What I expect is proven, Villareal put up a fight against Manchester United. Unfortunately, Ronaldo made a surprise in the last minutes with 1 goal which he created.

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Quote from: examplens on September 29, 2021, 06:08:19 PM

Quote from: snipie on September 29, 2021, 05:48:57 PM

Mm can I call Chelsea defeat vs Juve as another surprise?

for a long time ^{since when did Tuchel come} Chelsea have been playing very well and almost without losing a game. once that series had to come to an end.
It's interesting to me, a few days ago, they play a very defensive game against Man. City and lost it. Today they play against the defensive team and lost this game. I personally don't like that tactic, but I can't say I'm not glad they lost today.

Chelsea has been very defensive these days. Offensively they have been very poor. Their performance against Man city was a poof that they have not even made more attacking threats. The creative players have been silent and have not been proving points for them. Kai Havertz and Mount are not really doing good presently since the arrival of Lukaku. I think Tuchel changed the team tactics and philosophy and it is really telling on the players offensively. No through balls and good passes in the final third. Tuchel should find a way and work on improving the creativity in the team. There is no point in keeeping a good defense and not scoring. I think they will bounce back sooner and till then let them win this weekend fixture against Southampton.

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Quote from: babo on September 30, 2021, 05:31:51 AM

I agree with you, Barcelona are much stronger than Atletico
I think he has a lot of chances to beat this team
if we look at the bookmakers, surely the rate will have this as an index

in the end it is the parameter (the bookmakers) that helps us to understand

In what world is Barcelona currently better than Atlectico? I've seen all of Barca's recent international games and if you know a little about it, it quickly becomes apparent that the team has fundamental problems. In particular, there is hardly any connection between midfield and attack. Dempay and de Jong are sometimes completely disconnected from the rest of the team. That is also the reason for the meager goal yield.
I don't even want to talk about the bad defense. Atletico are far better than Barcelona at the moment.

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