UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread - page 628.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on September 30, 2021, 01:30:27 PM

Both Barcelona and Juventus started really badly in their domestic leagues. It would be hard to imagine CL without them, they have been qualifying year after year and were often in the group of teams most likely to challenge or the trophy.

Even though both teams are currently out of CL places, the season has just started and there should not be any reason to panic for their fans. Both will probably end up qualifying easily - Serie A and Primera are too weak for such major upsets.

Juventus fans shouldn't panic indeed. Because they are getting better day by day and having a consistent performance these days also. They won their last two games in the Serie A and they managed to beat even Chelsea in the Champions League also.

But I can't say the same thing for Barcelona fans unfortunately. Because the team are playing very inconsistently recently and it seems really hard to predict the results of their games. They show a great performance once but later everything changes about them. They weren't able to do anything against Benfica for example. They are not in a trustworthy condition and the fans shouldn't have big expectations from them at least for now.

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Quote from: alpamar99 on September 30, 2021, 09:48:53 AM

i did the same for chelsea

because i thought for sure chelsea would win the match easily because considering chelsea's performance was very good.
and i bet everything on chelsea and what happened i lost all

but it is very likely to happen considering football can all happen in 90 minutes of a game.
and in this match I realized one thing, apart from the factor of calm and concentration, the luck factor also plays a role. a team that attacks all out and controls the ball as much as anything like chelsea which last night controlled the ball up to 70% more does not mean that the team can win the game easily.

Luck?

Chelsea did nothing for the whole game, 1 shot in the end.
Juventus however scored 1 goal and missed 2 easy more goals.

I don't know. This is not luck is a good defense.

you forgot the two factors I said earlier. apart from luck I also pinned the factors of concentration and calm.
It's true that in the second half there were no dangerous attacks for Juventus and indeed after Juventus scored one goal they continued to concentrate on defense.
and here indeed their calm and concentration are very good in defense, on the other hand chelsea are lacking in finishing so they seem to play the ball in the middle of the field. and the luck factor is just an addition that I say because if you look at the goals that were created at the beginning of the second half because they took advantage of the negligence of the chelsea players.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on September 30, 2021, 01:30:27 PM

Both Barcelona and Juventus started really badly in their domestic leagues. It would be hard to imagine CL without them, they have been qualifying year after year and were often in the group of teams most likely to challenge or the trophy.

Even though both teams are currently out of CL places, the season has just started and there should not be any reason to panic for their fans. Both will probably end up qualifying easily - Serie A and Primera are too weak for such major upsets.

Indeed, it is still too early to say bad things about these two clubs, but what I saw during their domestic and UCL league matches, there was no sense of being a big team, even we now consider the club to be weak and helpless, especially in the UCL, especially with Barcelona in eventual scoring. a lot by Bayern Munich what about the other teams?
One solution to improve the barcelona game is to change the coach for now.

And for Juventus in the domestic league there is still a bit of recovery I think in the middle he can control again like the year before and become the defending champion.

And Barcelona - Juventus I'm not sure they can win the UCL title this season.

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Quote from: masulum on September 30, 2021, 05:46:58 AM

Ronaldo's goal in the additional times, has burning my smile, bcoz i bet for draw in this matches Shocked

Personally, I see that Villareal will make it difficult for United during the game, so I believe that the match will end in a draw. What I expect is proven, Villareal put up a fight against Manchester United. Unfortunately, Ronaldo made a surprise in the last minutes with 1 goal which he created.

A Dramatic Match Indeed. When the game only had 1 minute left, Ronaldo made a surprise, so that all the Red Devils supporters can smile with joy Grin

. Actually, Villareal played very well, it's just that they lacked the finishing touch. When Man United played a fast game early in the second half, Villarreal looked overwhelmed but Villareal managed to slow down the tempo of the game by playing possession of the ball and made the Man United players chase the ball in the Villareal defense area.

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Both Barcelona and Juventus started really badly in their domestic leagues. It would be hard to imagine CL without them, they have been qualifying year after year and were often in the group of teams most likely to challenge or the trophy.

Even though both teams are currently out of CL places, the season has just started and there should not be any reason to panic for their fans. Both will probably end up qualifying easily - Serie A and Primera are too weak for such major upsets.

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We saw again that how much Manchester United are struggling when they are putting an effort to win a match. They hardly managed to defeat Villarreal in a very competitive match. Villarreal's scoring first made things even more difficult for Manchester United. Telles' goal was just fabulous. While I was thinking like that was it and it would end by 1-1, Ronaldo saved the team by a very critical goal in literally the last minute.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on September 30, 2021, 10:46:48 AM

Koeman said Barcelona's future is good. But under his leadership, Barcelona is deteriorating further. They have lost against Bayern Munich, as expected. With such an inexperienced team, it is not possible to win against a strong and experienced team. But yesterday they lost 3-0 to Benfica, proving how weak they are this season. Now their only future is the Europa League.

It's actually going to be a disaster if Barcelona fail to qualify for the knock-out stage and drop to the Europa league, It's going to be a sight we actually haven't seen before, but to be honest, there is actually a possibility that Barcelona would drop out to the Champions league, they are out of sorts and are anything but impressive, there is a clear lack of quality in their side and if they do not do anything in the next transfer window, then they'll be down for a very long time.

Koeman isn't even the problem for me, I think any manager in charge of Barcelona at the moment wouldn't do very well, the person will definitely struggle, the problem stems from the board, the hierarchy at the club looks to be in all sorts of problems that needs solution.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on September 29, 2021, 01:48:57 PM

Without Paolo Dybala and Alvaro Morata Juventus make new tandem between Federico Bernardeschi and Federico Chiesa as forward position, I think for Federico Chiesa is not usually play as forward position because he always playing on left or right winger position, but very disappointed Juventus loss both player Dybala and Morata, how ever Juventus have Moise Kean as target men but Allegri not give his chance play at the early or starting eleven, on other position keep the same player as defender keep Bonucci and De Light play together.

Juventus played this game perfectly, as if something had changed in the team, the players were charged for the fight and reacted very positively to each taken ball from an opponent. I wrote that the hope for defense and they did not disappoint today, however, and the goalkeeper played at the proper level. I am very glad that Juventus won at Chelsea, this is very important for the confidence of the players, and I am also very glad that the Juventus defense finally did not concede a single goal in the match!

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Quote from: DU18 on September 30, 2021, 12:34:09 PM

many superior teams lost in the second match of the champions league group phase, and of course this also had an effect on those who bet for the victory of the big team in that match, I myself in that match lost some money Cry

and I did not expect a team as big as barcelona and Madrid can be defeated by a team that is actually below their level, but that's football, sometimes a big team will be easily defeated by a team that is not superior at all Grin

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That's football, yes it makes sense when we want to stay away from the bullies of the other team's fans when our favorite team doesn't win. LOL
Understandably, Barcelona must get used to playing not beautiful anymore since Koeman led the team. There are a lot of things I really don't like about him and that has taken Barcelona further and further away from the title at the end of the season. One of them when relying on two Dutch players Depay and L.D. Jong was up front as a striker while we saw them ineffective in delivering positive results for Barcelona in a few match. So defeat is a risk that Koeman has to accept at the moment although he is starting to feel that so far there hasn't been much support from management for him.

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Barcelona got a huge defeat against Benfica like 3-0 yesterday. Their performance was really poor and they must be better than this to achieve something in this year or even get close to doing it. And I have heard that they are in search of a new manager. Barcelona board must be unsatisfied with Koeman's management. Koeman was still claiming that Barcelona are better with him. But it doesn't seem so now.

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Quote from: alpamar99 on September 30, 2021, 09:48:53 AM

i did the same for chelsea

because i thought for sure chelsea would win the match easily because considering chelsea's performance was very good.
and i bet everything on chelsea and what happened i lost all

but it is very likely to happen considering football can all happen in 90 minutes of a game.
and in this match I realized one thing, apart from the factor of calm and concentration, the luck factor also plays a role. a team that attacks all out and controls the ball as much as anything like chelsea which last night controlled the ball up to 70% more does not mean that the team can win the game easily.

Luck?

Chelsea did nothing for the whole game, 1 shot in the end.
Juventus however scored 1 goal and missed 2 easy more goals.

I don't know. This is not luck is a good defense.

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Quote from: joker_josue on September 30, 2021, 10:07:24 AM

Quote from: masulum on September 30, 2021, 09:40:20 AM

Wow, this is really bad buddy, you really have to rest before betting again. For the prediction of MU winning, it's no longer surprising, I see a little chance of a draw based on statistics, haha. But, for Chelsea, I don't believe they can lose to Juventus who in their domestic league are in bad form, even though Chelsea are doing quite well in possession, they failed to make an effective attack even though they also have a lot of shot on goal.

This journey of the Champions League had several suppressions in terms of results.
I believe that many have lost several bets, and some have won a lot on the riskier bets they made.

many superior teams lost in the second match of the champions league group phase, and of course this also had an effect on those who bet for the victory of the big team in that match, I myself in that match lost some money Cry

and I did not expect a team as big as barcelona and Madrid can be defeated by a team that is actually below their level, but that's football, sometimes a big team will be easily defeated by a team that is not superior at all Grin

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on September 30, 2021, 11:42:49 AM

Disaster however for Barca, their manager will probably be sacked before this evening the rumors are for Pirlo as the new coach.

I only saw from local CNN news and Pilro's name could not be listed as a candidate for Barcelona coach and the ones on the list were Xavi, Conte, Joachim Low and Roberto Martinez so until now it is still unclear who will replace Ronald Koeman.

Barcelona is under the leadership of the current coach and there is no improvement at all, so he deserves to be sacked today because it does not have a good effect on his team, even if left alone, Barcelona will be worse off with even lower opponents.

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Barcelona were one of the losers last night. They were already very inconsistent before this game and we didn't have a very clear opinion about what they could have done against Benfica. And Benfica are not the easiest and the toughest competitor for them at the same time. Bayern Munich completely destroyed them with their game plan and it was a big warning to Barcelona to start playing better. But last night, we saw a struggling Barcelona again vs Benfica. And as a result, they were destroyed by Benfica by 3-0. I'm really sad about their current performance now and I hope that the players start having a 100% chemistry as soon as possible. Otherwise, a very tough season is waiting for them as it seems.

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Good result for Juventus with another clean sheet in the Champions League, they could even score more goals.

Disaster however for Barca, their manager will probably be sacked before this evening the rumors are for Pirlo as the new coach.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on September 30, 2021, 07:47:05 AM

Now Barcelona must win both Dynamo Kiev games, also beat Benfica differently at home and get at least one point from Bayern Munich game or they don't even have a chance to be second. Things got really tough for them. The matches that Benfica will play will be decisive. If Benfica lose points in their home match against Kiev, then Barcelona may have a bigger chance. I haven't seen Barcelona this desperate in a long time. Players are backing Koeman though.

I think that Benfica will lose both matches of Bayern, if Barcelona beat Dynamo twice, then it will already be 2 points ahead of Benfica. And in front there will be a match against Benfica at home and a match against Bayern away (but also not the worst option for scoring points, since by that time Bayern have already guaranteed themselves an exit to the next round). So it turns out that now everything is still dependent on Barcelona.

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Koeman said Barcelona's future is good. But under his leadership, Barcelona is deteriorating further. They have lost against Bayern Munich, as expected. With such an inexperienced team, it is not possible to win against a strong and experienced team. But yesterday they lost 3-0 to Benfica, proving how weak they are this season. Now their only future is the Europa League.

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Quote from: masulum on September 30, 2021, 05:46:58 AM

Ronaldo's goal in the additional times, has burning my smile, bcoz i bet for draw in this matches Shocked

Same here

I thought I was winning the match. Last night was a nightmare for me. I lost all the bets. Placed bet for Barcelona to draw & Chelsea to win as well but both of the team messed up; I didn’t expect Chelsea to lose at all.
Besides, I had placed bet for both team to score in all this three matches. Win only one. Out of 6 matches, I won only one LOL. I need to have a break.

Not only you I also lost a bet because of the chaos from Barcelona and Chelsea that had to drop which I didn't expect, and the saddest thing was that Barcelona couldn't score a single goal against Benfica so this is really bad what I see in the current season for Barcelona.

I thought with Chelsea's continuous attack I could get back a goal or win but in fact it's still nil even with so many chances Lukaku can't enter it, ahh the main thing is that both teams I bet on are bad in UCL matches.

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guess that when chelsea conceded im pretty confident that my team would score the next goal to make it a draw at least or making a come back even better, so yeah i put my money in live betting for both chelsea to come back from behind with a low odds @6.5 for such a game with 73 percent ball possesion on us, god damn difficult defence from juventus, we busted it all in the end.

at the other match i do loving how cristiano bagged another champions league goal and making him a caesar in UCL . i hate manchester united personally for no reason but i adore cristiano very much for his great achievements, attitude on & off the field. hat off.

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Quote from: kro55 on September 30, 2021, 05:53:36 AM

Poor performance by Barcelona. They are already at the bottom of the table. Though the stage matches are not done yet, but if they don't win the next match against Dynamo, they will be in great trouble. A draw will not be even enough for them to qualify to the next round I'm guessing. Pretty hard times ahead for them without Messi. Now it is getting clearer how important Messi was for them.

Now Barcelona must win both Dynamo Kiev games, also beat Benfica differently at home and get at least one point from Bayern Munich game or they don't even have a chance to be second. Things got really tough for them. The matches that Benfica will play will be decisive. If Benfica lose points in their home match against Kiev, then Barcelona may have a bigger chance. I haven't seen Barcelona this desperate in a long time. Players are backing Koeman though.

I don't think Koeman need to be sack,he needs time to rebuild this team, because this team is so average,if they can win Benefica in the second leg then they have big shot going to the knockout stage.we don't expect a team that has just lose Lionel Messi to be in top form, without bringing a top replacement, sacking him is not a good idea because the new coach will start afresh.and he we still struggle at the beginning.

Exactly. Laporta himself is not serious, to be talking about Xavi and Roberto Martinez replacing Koeman, it will still be the same disaster. What do the club actually expect after getting rid of most of their top players due to financial reasons. You got rid of most of the top players who helped the team win a trophy last season and u expect some kind of magic to be performed by Koeman?? It won't make a difference if a new coach is hired. It will take a long time for Barca to get back on their feet both on and off the pitch. For now they will have to suffer as I predicted for their lack of planning over the years due to their hopeless reliance on Messi. But how is Koeman even introducing more Dutch players.

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Quote from: masulum on September 30, 2021, 09:40:20 AM

Wow, this is really bad buddy, you really have to rest before betting again. For the prediction of MU winning, it's no longer surprising, I see a little chance of a draw based on statistics, haha. But, for Chelsea, I don't believe they can lose to Juventus who in their domestic league are in bad form, even though Chelsea are doing quite well in possession, they failed to make an effective attack even though they also have a lot of shot on goal.

This journey of the Champions League had several suppressions in terms of results.
I believe that many have lost several bets, and some have won a lot on the riskier bets they made.

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