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Quote from: jakdanyel on September 09, 2021, 07:54:18 AM

Let's see what PSG will do in their group stage matches. We are only a few days away from the CL matches to start. PSG are gonna be the away side against Club Brugge. Most people are curious about what Pochettino will do with a great lineup like this. In this match, PSG shouldn't have much problem on destroying their opponent. The hardest matches will be against Manchester City. As they also are one of the candidates for the title, if PSG perform strongly against them, I will start believing more that they can win the title too.

This is one of those matches with high expectations. I hope Pochettino doesn't get confused with his line-up. Because I presume majority of Barcelona fans swapped to PSG after Messi's transfer and would be so eager to watch him blend with his new teammates and how good he could be with adapting to a different game pattern from what he has always played

Now that you mention it, Messi was the main or only reason for many fans to support Barcelona actually. After Messi left the team, majority of the fans were really sad. And I have no doubt that many of them are PSG supporters now. Messi is a very influential footballer that people from everywhere like him a lot. He is a Barcelona legend now and it is time to contribute to some other teams also. It would be really boring to see Messi at Barcelona until the end of his career in my opinion.

That is something that is very common among the fans, back then when players were expected to play their whole careers with a single team and it was weird for a player to exchange teams then people eventually became attached to the teams as well and kept supporting the team even after their favorite players retired, but now that players changing teams is so common now many people support the player and not the teams anymore, and I think this tendency is getting stronger with each passing year.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on September 11, 2021, 05:09:02 AM

Manchester United's first match is going to be against Young Boys away. I don't see a strong game plan for Young Boys. They barely eliminated Ferencvaros. A problematic group stage is waiting for them I think. Manchester United are highly favored here and fans are waiting for Ronaldo to start playing in this tournament also. I expect at least one goal from him in this match also and Manchester United should be able to win this with at least 2-goal difference.

With Ronaldo is their rooster, I don't see how youbg boys stands a chance. Another thing to consider is that Man Utd does have an elite squad and they've been performing reasonably well in the last couple of matches. So I expect them to not only win against Young boys but dominate group F throughout the group stage games. Only team that might give them problems is Atalanta. Villarreal might try but I'm not sure they're up to par.

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Quote from: Slow death on September 13, 2021, 03:57:34 PM

...but talking about the game manchester united is very strong now that they have cristiano ronaldo, i particularly believe that manchester united will win this game, they are strong and are candidates to win the champions league this season in my opinion

Manchester United is the favourite to win the match against Young boys. We should be looking at 3-1 in favour of Manchester United. However, talking about wining the champions league, I believe Manchester United has a CDM deficiency.
If champions league reaches to round 16, when away goal advantages begins to count, you will under that Varane and Maguire alone cannot do the job. It takes the likes of Kante or Ndidi to join the defence to withstand the pressure of Messi, Neymar, Mbape.

As for Inter vs Madrid: Madrid will always take the day. Some people are known to be exceptional in some leagues. Marcelo, Cavaja, Modric, Benzema etc are CL boys, they can't be easily outsmarted by Milan boys.

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Quote from: KingsDen on September 13, 2021, 01:53:34 PM

Barcelona will appear in this season's CL without their all-time talisman. However, it can be said that they are unlucky to meet the harder contenders from Deutsch in their first leg. Will the aura of Camp nou and the sudden reign of Memphis give FCB goals? Could Bayern go home disappointed?

nah, Bayern to win x1.9 is free money imo, Barca looked shaky in the local league...that one and Juventus -1 hc x1.8 are good value, no way Malmo can save a point against the italians...If they do get a point, then Allegri should resign tbh

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Quote from: KTChampions on September 11, 2021, 10:02:09 AM

Quote from: jakdanyel on September 11, 2021, 05:09:02 AM

Manchester United's first match is going to be against Young Boys away. I don't see a strong game plan for Young Boys. They barely eliminated Ferencvaros. A problematic group stage is waiting for them I think. Manchester United are highly favored here and fans are waiting for Ronaldo to start playing in this tournament also. I expect at least one goal from him in this match also and Manchester United should be able to win this with at least 2-goal difference.

The odds from the bookmakers are very eloquent
7,00 - 5,00 - 1,43
and everyone is waiting for victory from Manchester, but by the way, purely theoretically, I admit that the Young Boys can draw - after all, this is a passing group match and it is difficult to expect maximum motivation from Manchester. Probably for this reason I will not place a bet in this match.

@1.43 is a very low odd, I don't see value in betting with this type of very low odd. in the long run it does not bring profit. but talking about the game manchester united is very strong now that they have cristiano ronaldo, i particularly believe that manchester united will win this game, they are strong and are candidates to win the champions league this season in my opinion

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I'm worried about this game, I'm a fan of the real madrid, in the last games I haven't seen the real madrid have good results I say that because they can't easily beat the small teams in the la liga, the only team in the la liga that they managed to win easy was Alaves

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Quote from: KingsDen on September 13, 2021, 01:53:34 PM

Barcelona will appear in this season's CL without their all-time talisman. However, it can be said that they are unlucky to meet the harder contenders from Deutsch in their first leg. Will the aura of Camp nou and the sudden reign of Memphis give FCB goals? Could Bayern go home disappointed?

Even though it's Barca's home, Bayern is favorite in this match. I don't think Barcelona will struggle in this group though, even if they lose both matches against Bayern they can still advance as second in the group. They should pass Dynamo Kiev and Benfica.
Last time these two teams meet it was a disaster for Barcelona, I don't think that's going to happen again. Bayern started this season pretty good and they scored many goals. Barca should take precautions defensively and don't let something like that happen again.

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Quote from: KingsDen on September 13, 2021, 01:53:34 PM

Barcelona will appear in this season's CL without their all-time talisman. However, it can be said that they are unlucky to meet the harder contenders from Deutsch in their first leg. Will the aura of Camp nou and the sudden reign of Memphis give FCB goals? Could Bayern go home disappointed?

As I understand it, bookmakers believe that the one who scores first in this match will most likely win the game - otherwise how can you explain such a high odds for a draw?
3,55 - 4,10 - 1,94
The rest is quite understandable - Bavaria is the favorite and will most likely take 3 points from Camp Nou.

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Quote from: KingsDen on September 13, 2021, 01:53:34 PM

Barcelona will appear in this season's CL without their all-time talisman. However, it can be said that they are unlucky to meet the harder contenders from Deutsch in their first leg. Will the aura of Camp nou and the sudden reign of Memphis give FCB goals? Could Bayern go home disappointed?

This should be the right time for Memphis to prove that he is worthy of being a mainstay up front in the local league he can be relied on but in the Champions the situation is very different especially against Munich, on the other hand, Munich's mainstay Lewandowski is ready to attack he is one of the most on fire players in all competitions.
I'm pretty sure he's definitely breaking down the Barcelona defense and scoring goals we've seen it in local leagues and international .

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Barcelona will appear in this season's CL without their all-time talisman. However, it can be said that they are unlucky to meet the harder contenders from Deutsch in their first leg. Will the aura of Camp nou and the sudden reign of Memphis give FCB goals? Could Bayern go home disappointed?

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Quote from: LGD2Business on September 11, 2021, 08:48:40 PM

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Manchester United will not make any mistakes in this match and will get full points. Group F seems easy enough to me. Atlanta, Villarreal, and Young Boys are neither team very strong. On the other hand, Group-B seems to be the most difficult group. Ac Milan, Atletico Madird, Liverpool and Porto. The four teams are strong enough. Everyone has the power to defeat the opponent.

I disagree with you. Villarreal won Cup number 2 last season. They beat which team in final? Yeah, you damn well know which team: Manchester United. Grin

Atalanta finished Serie A after Inter and Milan. They passed Juventus, Napoli, Lazio and Roma. Do you still think they are not strong?
Young Boys made 31 points difference to their closest opponent Basel in Swiss League last season. Young Boys may look the weakest team here but today they beat current league leader FC Zürich with 4 goals.
Manchester United is favorite but don't underestimate other teams. They all have a chance to advance to next round.

I don't want to mean that. The rest of the teams are weak compared to the current team of Manchester United. Take a look at Atalanta's performance. It is not stable Villarreal's condition is the same. 3 draws in 3 matches. Although the season has just begun, it is difficult to say which team is better. But if we compare their performance with Manchester United, we can see how weak they are than the Manchester United team. Villarreal beat Manchester the previous season. Villarreal has played great, but this season Manchester United is tidier and stronger.

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Quote from: kro55 on September 11, 2021, 08:25:01 PM

Manchester United will not make any mistakes in this match and will get full points. Group F seems easy enough to me. Atlanta, Villarreal, and Young Boys are neither team very strong. On the other hand, Group-B seems to be the most difficult group. Ac Milan, Atletico Madird, Liverpool and Porto. The four teams are strong enough. Everyone has the power to defeat the opponent.

I disagree with you. Villarreal won Cup number 2 last season. They beat which team in final? Yeah, you damn well know which team: Manchester United. Grin

Atalanta finished Serie A after Inter and Milan. They passed Juventus, Napoli, Lazio and Roma. Do you still think they are not strong?
Young Boys made 31 points difference to their closest opponent Basel in Swiss League last season. Young Boys may look the weakest team here but today they beat current league leader FC Zürich with 4 goals.
Manchester United is favorite but don't underestimate other teams. They all have a chance to advance to next round.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on September 11, 2021, 08:11:17 PM

Quote from: BlackViruse on September 11, 2021, 06:22:23 PM

The Young boys are not a good feet for Manchester United right now the team is on fire and with the addition of Ronaldo to the team make them more scary but this is the champions league and we've seen underdogs winning big games in the past.

It can happen in group stage, we saw several examples of that. I still think Manchester United will win the match comfortably. They will want to start the group stage well. They shouldn't make mistakes in Young Boys matches as their other rivals Atalanta and Villarreal are stronger than Young Boys. Matches are not won until they are played on the field so we have to wait until Tuesday. I agree that Ronaldo has definitely taken the team to the next level.

Manchester United will not make any mistakes in this match and will get full points. Group F seems easy enough to me. Atlanta, Villarreal, and Young Boys are neither team very strong. On the other hand, Group-B seems to be the most difficult group. Ac Milan, Atletico Madird, Liverpool and Porto. The four teams are strong enough. Everyone has the power to defeat the opponent.

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Quote from: BlackViruse on September 11, 2021, 06:22:23 PM

The Young boys are not a good feet for Manchester United right now the team is on fire and with the addition of Ronaldo to the team make them more scary but this is the champions league and we've seen underdogs winning big games in the past.

It can happen in group stage, we saw several examples of that. I still think Manchester United will win the match comfortably. They will want to start the group stage well. They shouldn't make mistakes in Young Boys matches as their other rivals Atalanta and Villarreal are stronger than Young Boys. Matches are not won until they are played on the field so we have to wait until Tuesday. I agree that Ronaldo has definitely taken the team to the next level.

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Quote from: BlackViruse on September 11, 2021, 06:22:23 PM

Quote from: jakdanyel on September 11, 2021, 05:09:02 AM

Manchester United's first match is going to be against Young Boys away. I don't see a strong game plan for Young Boys. They barely eliminated Ferencvaros. A problematic group stage is waiting for them I think. Manchester United are highly favored here and fans are waiting for Ronaldo to start playing in this tournament also. I expect at least one goal from him in this match also and Manchester United should be able to win this with at least 2-goal difference.

The Young boys are not a good feet for Manchester United right now the team is on fire and with the addition of Ronaldo to the team make them more scary but this is the champions league and we've seen underdogs winning big games in the past.

In such matches, much depends on the morale of the opposing opponents. On the one hand, it is clear to everyone that the teams have different status and the status of Manchester United is not compatible with the status of the Young Boys, but everything is decided on the green lawn of the football field, and not taking into account the status and past merits. Young Boys are not satisfied with the fans ' expectations for a mandatory win, and Manchester United, on the contrary, must prove the legitimacy of their claims to titles this season and a good strengthening of the squad, and in some cases this can enslave the team and the team does not show the right game. Moreover, this is the first match of the group stage, so everything is not clear here, but of course the advantage is on the side of Manchester United.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on September 11, 2021, 05:09:02 AM

Manchester United's first match is going to be against Young Boys away. I don't see a strong game plan for Young Boys. They barely eliminated Ferencvaros. A problematic group stage is waiting for them I think. Manchester United are highly favored here and fans are waiting for Ronaldo to start playing in this tournament also. I expect at least one goal from him in this match also and Manchester United should be able to win this with at least 2-goal difference.

The Young boys are not a good feet for Manchester United right now the team is on fire and with the addition of Ronaldo to the team make them more scary but this is the champions league and we've seen underdogs winning big games in the past.

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Quote from: kassex on September 11, 2021, 02:37:19 AM

Villarreal played in the final against Manchester United. Of course, Atalanta is quite an interesting team that plays in an attacking style. But do not underestimate Villarreal. I hope that it will be a rather interesting game and we will enjoy watching this match.

I agree that the game is definitely looking like a close game. However I do not agree that Atalanta is the better team. I would give the previous champions of europa a bit more chance than the other team, sure Atalanta is great and all but Villareal is a team that managed to win Europa cup over United last season. Champions league is not like a regular league, it is a very different atmosphere and I have talked with some players who have been there, even if you are PSG playing against some horrible team, even though you know that there is a good chance you will beat 5-0, there is still a huge fear.

Because, the league is something that happens every year, you know it will happen, even if you ever get one horrible result, it will be long forgotten. But champions league is not like that, you are viewed by everyone around the world and that puts added pressure. So a team that already won a cup last season seems much more favorable since they managed that.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on September 11, 2021, 05:09:02 AM

Manchester United's first match is going to be against Young Boys away. I don't see a strong game plan for Young Boys. They barely eliminated Ferencvaros. A problematic group stage is waiting for them I think. Manchester United are highly favored here and fans are waiting for Ronaldo to start playing in this tournament also. I expect at least one goal from him in this match also and Manchester United should be able to win this with at least 2-goal difference.

The odds from the bookmakers are very eloquent
7,00 - 5,00 - 1,43
and everyone is waiting for victory from Manchester, but by the way, purely theoretically, I admit that the Young Boys can draw - after all, this is a passing group match and it is difficult to expect maximum motivation from Manchester. Probably for this reason I will not place a bet in this match.

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Manchester United's first match is going to be against Young Boys away. I don't see a strong game plan for Young Boys. They barely eliminated Ferencvaros. A problematic group stage is waiting for them I think. Manchester United are highly favored here and fans are waiting for Ronaldo to start playing in this tournament also. I expect at least one goal from him in this match also and Manchester United should be able to win this with at least 2-goal difference.

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Quote from: babo on September 10, 2021, 11:34:21 AM

Atalanta is a very strong and fierce team
absolutely not to be underestimated
just look at her last season, in the Champions League she was only beaten by the finalist (if I remember correctly)

I don't know Villareal very well, but I support Atalanta

Atalanta is a really good team. The squad they've set up this year isn't bad either. There is not much time left until the Villereal match and the shortcomings of the team need to be fixed. I think the Fiorentina match they will play tonight is very important, the players should not get tired. Any injury would be very bad for the team.
I support Atalanta too

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Quote from: kassex on September 11, 2021, 02:37:19 AM

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Quote from: kassex on September 10, 2021, 10:45:39 AM

A good match can turn out between Villareal and Atalanta. The teams have never met so far. The last matches of both teams have not impressed. So I think the team will try to show their best performance.
A more interesting match can turn out in Spain, where Barcelona and Bayern meet. Of the last 5 meetings between the teams, Bayern won 4. Barcelona have conceded in every match lately, I think this will affect this game. The team has no strong forwards ahead of them who could fight with the defenders of Bayern. I think that Bayern will win this match, but I do not think that the score will be quite large.

Atalanta is a very strong and fierce team
absolutely not to be underestimated
just look at her last season, in the Champions League she was only beaten by the finalist (if I remember correctly)
I don't know Villareal very well, but I support Atalanta

Villarreal played in the final against Manchester United. Of course, Atalanta is quite an interesting team that plays in an attacking style. But do not underestimate Villarreal. I hope that it will be a rather interesting game and we will enjoy watching this match.

Atalanta is a stable team. But, Villarreal is not a weak team. We saw good enough gameplay from them the previous season. He has played 3 matches this season and has drawn all three. However, they have the ability to perform well against strong teams. We have already found evidence of this. So this team should not be underestimated.

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