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September 08, 2021, 06:49:18 PM
we can assume that since he is experienced, he will be able to adapt. Because he has previous playing experience with many players on the team.
Basically, it is not always easy to adapt but I believe Messi can deal with a new challenge. Not only he has experience playing with various players in his national team, but he is a smart player as well. We can guess he is smart from his playing style and his achievement so far. Another thing that makes him possibly be easier in adaptation is some PSG key players familiar enough with Messi. So, Messi knows how those players style in playing. And it may help him a bit to adapt with the players.

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September 08, 2021, 05:38:58 PM
I agree with you. Messi is in the PSG team, that's why PSG will stronger, I don't think it. PSG has been able to form a truly strong team this season. They have Mbappe, Neymar, Messi and Di Maria to break the opponent's defense. For midfield, they have experienced talented players like Verratti and Wijnaldum. But I think Di Maria will play in midfield. PSG has experienced players like Hakimi, Ramos, Kimpembe and Marquinhos to repel the opponent's attack. Lastly, there are two experienced goalkeepers like Navas and Donnarumma in their squad.
But, in football, having the best squad is no guarantee of victory. Last year, PSG already had a better squad than Chelsea, as well as Man City, but they both lost the game to Chelsea and they were champions - something no one expected.

So I have some difficulty predicting who will reach the final, I see many teams with that possibility.
Having the better team is a great thing in the league, not so much in UCL. The reason for that is simply because in the league you play 30+ even 40+ in some nations games and that means a great roster will definitely help you become better and get great results in the long run, you are not going to keep losing with a great roster. Which means that we could basically have a champion of the league by just looking at the rosters. Of course this doesn't always happen, sometimes you lose the league even with clear best roster but it is rare and teams with best rosters usually end up winning, or team with top 3 best roster let's say.

UCL is not like that, you play 1-2 games with each team and you may just get lucky, or you may get ready for specifically that team and counter accordingly, this is why Chelsea was capable of winning, all they had to do was win like last 5-6 games and it's done, PSG could have the best ever team but if they lose one game, they are gone.
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September 08, 2021, 12:16:00 PM
I agree with you. Messi is in the PSG team, that's why PSG will stronger, I don't think it. PSG has been able to form a truly strong team this season. They have Mbappe, Neymar, Messi and Di Maria to break the opponent's defense. For midfield, they have experienced talented players like Verratti and Wijnaldum. But I think Di Maria will play in midfield. PSG has experienced players like Hakimi, Ramos, Kimpembe and Marquinhos to repel the opponent's attack. Lastly, there are two experienced goalkeepers like Navas and Donnarumma in their squad.

But, in football, having the best squad is no guarantee of victory. Last year, PSG already had a better squad than Chelsea, as well as Man City, but they both lost the game to Chelsea and they were champions - something no one expected.

So I have some difficulty predicting who will reach the final, I see many teams with that possibility.

I did not talk about victory or defeat. PSG has a very strong squad. The probability of winning is the highest for them. Now we need skilled coaches. I think Pocchetinno is a good enough coach. There are many star players under him now. It will not be easy to control so many star players. Now I will get proof of my experience and skills.

With so many stars in the team, Pocchetinno doesn't have much to do. In fact, almost all the managers wouldn't need to do much. Strategy and formations are known to all and with this team, I wonder how you can make it wrong. Of course, Pocchetinno is a very good manager and I can't see anything that can go bad (besides injuries). PSG this season is among the 3 teams that I expect to reach the semi-finals...
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September 08, 2021, 10:35:18 AM
There is only one week left for the first games of the new Champions League season. We see a much stronger PSG and Manchester United now after signing Messi and Ronaldo. I don't know if Manchester United can make it to the final. But I believe in PSG to make it there very much. As long as Messi adapts to this new game plan, things will get much easier for them. This time, they should be able to win the title with the new trio.
messi and ronaldo are two of the best football players ever today, and of course they will have a very important role to help their club to win champion league this season, I personally never doubted their quality but I'm not sure if they can bring their team to victory , if it is not supported by other players, as we know how the journey of Juventus which continues to fail to win the champions league with Ronaldo, because Juventus only relies too much on Ronaldo without other good players and of course that will also apply when he defends Manchester United at this time.
Personally, I'm more convinced that PSG will win champions league this year, apart from Messi, PSG also has a fairly even squad in every position.
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September 08, 2021, 10:33:11 AM
I agree with you. Messi is in the PSG team, that's why PSG will stronger, I don't think it. PSG has been able to form a truly strong team this season. They have Mbappe, Neymar, Messi and Di Maria to break the opponent's defense. For midfield, they have experienced talented players like Verratti and Wijnaldum. But I think Di Maria will play in midfield. PSG has experienced players like Hakimi, Ramos, Kimpembe and Marquinhos to repel the opponent's attack. Lastly, there are two experienced goalkeepers like Navas and Donnarumma in their squad.

But, in football, having the best squad is no guarantee of victory. Last year, PSG already had a better squad than Chelsea, as well as Man City, but they both lost the game to Chelsea and they were champions - something no one expected.

So I have some difficulty predicting who will reach the final, I see many teams with that possibility.

I did not talk about victory or defeat. PSG has a very strong squad. The probability of winning is the highest for them. Now we need skilled coaches. I think Pocchetinno is a good enough coach. There are many star players under him now. It will not be easy to control so many star players. Now I will get proof of my experience and skills.
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September 08, 2021, 10:25:44 AM
Nostalgia Final 2004/05 & 2006/07, Milan and Liverpool are still attached to the hearts of supporters. They now meet again, not in the Final, but will carry each scar in the hearts of supporters. This season Milan no longer have star players like 8 years ago, while Liverpool are slightly have better players than Milan. Milan is expected to win the game to maintain their motivation after several seasons absence in the UCL, while victory must be obtained by Liverpool because they are playing in front of their own fans. Even though it's hard for Milan to win, but Liverpool won't be easy to beat Milan. Maybe Liverpool can only win by 1 goal difference.
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September 08, 2021, 09:35:36 AM
games that I will bet because in my opinion they have good odds:


Bayern Munich - FC Barcelona



I'm still analyzing that game, but I'm more inclined to bet on Bayern Munich and BTTS


Real Madrid -  Inter



I'm still analyzing this game too, but I think I'll go for a real madrid victory or maybe I'll bet on the under 3


Ajax Amsterdam - Sporting CP

I'm thinking of betting on BTTS, it will be a game where both teams scored




You made good guesses. For the Ajax - Sporting match, I predict that there will be 3 goals or more. We can watch a game with lots of goals. Inter is a team that can beat Real. Bayern Munich is already the favorite team of their group. A Barcelona that has lost important players from the team cannot beat Bayern.

I see you have decided to go with the favourites, but this is Champions League so nothing really is guaranteed here. Lastly I too personally feel that Bayern has a big chance of winning against Barcelona, but I don’t see how Inter can beat Real Madrid hence I’ll be choosing Real Madrid to win their fixture against Inter Milan.
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September 08, 2021, 09:27:50 AM
games that I will bet because in my opinion they have good odds:


Bayern Munich - FC Barcelona



I'm still analyzing that game, but I'm more inclined to bet on Bayern Munich and BTTS


Real Madrid -  Inter



I'm still analyzing this game too, but I think I'll go for a real madrid victory or maybe I'll bet on the under 3


Ajax Amsterdam - Sporting CP

I'm thinking of betting on BTTS, it will be a game where both teams scored




You made good guesses. For the Ajax - Sporting match, I predict that there will be 3 goals or more. We can watch a game with lots of goals. Inter is a team that can beat Real. Bayern Munich is already the favorite team of their group. A Barcelona that has lost important players from the team cannot beat Bayern.
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September 08, 2021, 09:19:07 AM
The first round and the opening match of the group stage are two matches Frist stage Sevilla Vs Salzburg, Young Boys Vs Manchester United will take place on September 14. In the first match I chose Sevilla and Manchester United to win.
 
September 15, 2021
1. Barcelona vs Bayern Munich
2. Chelsea vs Zenit
3. Dyn. Kiev vs Benfica
4. Lille vs Wolfsburg
5. Malmo FF vs Juventus
6. Villarreal vs Atalanta
7. Besiktas vs Dortmund
8. Sheriff Tiraspol vs Shakhtar


September 16, 2021

1. Atl. Madrid vs FC Porto
2. Club Brugge vs Paris SG
3. Inter vs Real Madrid
4. Liverpool vs AC Milan
5. Manchester City vs RB Leipzig
6. Sporting vs Ajax


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September 08, 2021, 08:06:12 AM
But, in football, having the best squad is no guarantee of victory. Last year, PSG already had a better squad than Chelsea, as well as Man City, but they both lost the game to Chelsea and they were champions - something no one expected.

So I have some difficulty predicting who will reach the final, I see many teams with that possibility.

Basically, this applies to cup games where a two-match confrontation (or even a one-match if it is a final) can knock one team out of the tournament. Unfortunately, moneybags achieve results sooner or later in the regular championships (I was very pleased to see how Manchester City could not even come close to the championship in England for many years). I will hope that this year the moneybags will be knocked out by more labor teams.
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September 08, 2021, 05:01:37 AM
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That's exactly one of the reasons I stated "Messi can adapt well to PSG game style" because he already knows well some key players in PSG. Regarding adaptation with Wijnaldum and Mbappe, I think he just needs less than 5 matches to know well their characteristics in playing. Messi is a smart player and it makes him can reach the top level, so we don't be afraid he can adapt with all PSG players. Also, he is already experiencing as a captain of Argentina's national team for some years. It makes him have a great ability to know each player's characteristics.
Honestly he won Copa America finally this year, but he has been playing with his national team for so long without winning anything at all. That should tell you that it is not always so easy for Messi to adapt to any player that easily, certainly not under 5 games. However, these players are not that much of a stranger to him, I still think Mbappe will be a difficult one but aside from that PSG will definitely be a team that is dangerous to play for anyone in the world. They just need to build chemistry up, forget about all this Mbappe crisis, play to win and get a good strategy from the manager that will be perfect fit for this club as well.

It is unknown at this time what he will do after leaving the post. But we can assume that since he is experienced, he will be able to adapt. Because he has previous playing experience with many players on the team. And we have seen in Barcelona how amazing the pairing of Messi and Neymar is. Moreover, Messi has performed well with Di Maria. Yet adapting to new environments and new players is not easy.
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September 08, 2021, 02:47:52 AM
I agree with you. Messi is in the PSG team, that's why PSG will stronger, I don't think it. PSG has been able to form a truly strong team this season. They have Mbappe, Neymar, Messi and Di Maria to break the opponent's defense. For midfield, they have experienced talented players like Verratti and Wijnaldum. But I think Di Maria will play in midfield. PSG has experienced players like Hakimi, Ramos, Kimpembe and Marquinhos to repel the opponent's attack. Lastly, there are two experienced goalkeepers like Navas and Donnarumma in their squad.

But, in football, having the best squad is no guarantee of victory. Last year, PSG already had a better squad than Chelsea, as well as Man City, but they both lost the game to Chelsea and they were champions - something no one expected.

So I have some difficulty predicting who will reach the final, I see many teams with that possibility.
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September 08, 2021, 01:35:24 AM
There is only one week left for the first games of the new Champions League season. We see a much stronger PSG and Manchester United now after signing Messi and Ronaldo. I don't know if Manchester United can make it to the final. But I believe in PSG to make it there very much. As long as Messi adapts to this new game plan, things will get much easier for them. This time, they should be able to win the title with the new trio.
So, it's all just about Messi and Ronaldo? Shocked
For me it can't be used as a guarantee but about PSG, I still see it as a team that might make it to the final but not for Manchester United. It's not about Messi and Ronaldo, because the two teams have different squad depths and in this case PSG are still the most superior compared to United. There are still many other top teams and even though Ronaldo has returned to Manchester United, but for me United will still find it difficult to go further even to reach the semi-finals for Manchester United I still doubt it.

I agree with you. Messi is in the PSG team, that's why PSG will stronger, I don't think it. PSG has been able to form a truly strong team this season. They have Mbappe, Neymar, Messi and Di Maria to break the opponent's defense. For midfield, they have experienced talented players like Verratti and Wijnaldum. But I think Di Maria will play in midfield. PSG has experienced players like Hakimi, Ramos, Kimpembe and Marquinhos to repel the opponent's attack. Lastly, there are two experienced goalkeepers like Navas and Donnarumma in their squad.
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September 07, 2021, 10:13:02 PM
There is only one week left for the first games of the new Champions League season. We see a much stronger PSG and Manchester United now after signing Messi and Ronaldo. I don't know if Manchester United can make it to the final. But I believe in PSG to make it there very much. As long as Messi adapts to this new game plan, things will get much easier for them. This time, they should be able to win the title with the new trio.
So, it's all just about Messi and Ronaldo? Shocked
For me it can't be used as a guarantee but about PSG, I still see it as a team that might make it to the final but not for Manchester United. It's not about Messi and Ronaldo, because the two teams have different squad depths and in this case PSG are still the most superior compared to United. There are still many other top teams and even though Ronaldo has returned to Manchester United, but for me United will still find it difficult to go further even to reach the semi-finals for Manchester United I still doubt it.
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September 07, 2021, 07:22:26 PM
Honestly he won Copa America finally this year, but he has been playing with his national team for so long without winning anything at all. That should tell you that it is not always so easy for Messi to adapt to any player that easily, certainly not under 5 games.
No, it doesn't tell anything about Messi's adaptation!! Messi has done a good contribution to his national team, even they cannot win any trophy, we cannot blame Messi. In my view, Messi has no problem with his adaptation both in the club and national team. I don't say it is a must to adapt under 5 matches, but that's my prediction. What's wrong with guessing he can adapt well under 5 matches? By the way, you must note that judging a player adapt well or not, should be from how good he can play with other players. Don't judge it based on winning or not a club, that's not the responsibility of 1 player but all players and the coach!
The most important problem of the Argentina national team has always been that the team did not match the level of Messi in its level. On the one hand, this is not surprising, given the fantastic playing level of Messi and the number of golden balls won by him by the best player in the world. On the other hand, in any case, the team must somehow adapt to this in order to win titles. We saw perfectly well on the example of Barcelona at the time that it is possible to choose such a composition of players who looked great with Messi and won not only at the local Spanish level, but also in the Champions League. Moreover, Paris Saint-Germain is not experiencing any financial problems and has assembled a decent squad to solve the highest tasks. But the great thing about sports is that it's not always money and the stardom of the squad that decides everything and the other teams also have chances.
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September 07, 2021, 07:10:29 PM
There is only one week left for the first games of the new Champions League season. We see a much stronger PSG and Manchester United now after signing Messi and Ronaldo. I don't know if Manchester United can make it to the final. But I believe in PSG to make it there very much. As long as Messi adapts to this new game plan, things will get much easier for them. This time, they should be able to win the title with the new trio.
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September 07, 2021, 07:01:52 PM
Honestly he won Copa America finally this year, but he has been playing with his national team for so long without winning anything at all. That should tell you that it is not always so easy for Messi to adapt to any player that easily, certainly not under 5 games.
No, it doesn't tell anything about Messi's adaptation!! Messi has done a good contribution to his national team, even they cannot win any trophy, we cannot blame Messi. In my view, Messi has no problem with his adaptation both in the club and national team. I don't say it is a must to adapt under 5 matches, but that's my prediction. What's wrong with guessing he can adapt well under 5 matches? By the way, you must note that judging a player adapt well or not, should be from how good he can play with other players. Don't judge it based on winning or not a club, that's not the responsibility of 1 player but all players and the coach!

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September 07, 2021, 12:49:28 PM
That's exactly one of the reasons I stated "Messi can adapt well to PSG game style" because he already knows well some key players in PSG. Regarding adaptation with Wijnaldum and Mbappe, I think he just needs less than 5 matches to know well their characteristics in playing. Messi is a smart player and it makes him can reach the top level, so we don't be afraid he can adapt with all PSG players. Also, he is already experiencing as a captain of Argentina's national team for some years. It makes him have a great ability to know each player's characteristics.
Messi's adaptation at PSG has been a hot topic so far both on social media and in this thread. I wouldn't worry too much about it because I know Messi is a unique player. He is a winger who is currently no longer interested in his individual achievements "I guess" but he is also a good passer for his team-mates. If Mbappe doesn't want to give him a assist, then Messi will give him a assist. That's what will happen. In the Champions League, I would like to see Messi, Mbappe and Neymar in the line-up. I'm really curious as to what they will do in that match.
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September 07, 2021, 12:20:33 PM
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That's exactly one of the reasons I stated "Messi can adapt well to PSG game style" because he already knows well some key players in PSG. Regarding adaptation with Wijnaldum and Mbappe, I think he just needs less than 5 matches to know well their characteristics in playing. Messi is a smart player and it makes him can reach the top level, so we don't be afraid he can adapt with all PSG players. Also, he is already experiencing as a captain of Argentina's national team for some years. It makes him have a great ability to know each player's characteristics.
Honestly he won Copa America finally this year, but he has been playing with his national team for so long without winning anything at all. That should tell you that it is not always so easy for Messi to adapt to any player that easily, certainly not under 5 games. However, these players are not that much of a stranger to him, I still think Mbappe will be a difficult one but aside from that PSG will definitely be a team that is dangerous to play for anyone in the world. They just need to build chemistry up, forget about all this Mbappe crisis, play to win and get a good strategy from the manager that will be perfect fit for this club as well.
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September 07, 2021, 07:00:31 AM
~snip~
That's exactly one of the reasons I stated "Messi can adapt well to PSG game style" because he already knows well some key players in PSG. Regarding adaptation with Wijnaldum and Mbappe, I think he just needs less than 5 matches to know well their characteristics in playing. Messi is a smart player and it makes him can reach the top level, so we don't be afraid he can adapt with all PSG players. Also, he is already experiencing as a captain of Argentina's national team for some years. It makes him have a great ability to know each player's characteristics.

Messi is experienced and friendly. If Mbappe is mature enough. And with the PSG team, if he wanting to touch the Champions League title. Then he will do his best to adapt to Messi. Building the best-attacking lineup in the world by building good bonding with both Messi and Neymar. Of course, the coach has to play an important role here.
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