UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread - page 696.

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Quote from: youdacapt on July 26, 2021, 05:42:56 PM

Quote from: Koal-84 on July 26, 2021, 12:56:35 PM

Qualifying matches this week, with everything still possible for all teams except PSV Eindhoven.

On Wednesday I will keep my fingers crossed for Rapid Wien again, after the very bad game in their own league on Saturday it is also possible that they will lose the away game in Prague.

Great run of fixtures in the champions league qualifier for the coming season; there has been several surprises and shocks and this is the beauty of the game. I am tipping PSV, Malmo, Dinamo, Olympiakos, Cluj, Midtylland, Young boys and Rapid Wien to get on to the next round
Are you rooting for anyone ?

Sorry for the late reply, I was very busy yesterday and unfortunately didn't catch any of the game.

Yesterday Malmö, Dinamo, Warsaw and Ferencvaros progressed, no surprises. Today, I think Olympiakos, Cluj, PSV, Celtic, Young Boys and hopefully Rapid Wien will make it to the next round.

For Rapid it will be a difficult game away from home, I don't know the other teams well enough to judge them.

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Quote from: casperBGD on July 28, 2021, 02:02:35 AM

there is a bunch of matches today, and with all yesterday came as expected (favorites go through), today could be a chance to catch some upsets

nevertheless, it is hard to find which would be good to bet on, but I will try with Nefthi, Slovan and Kairat, one to get through, good enough
Ludogorets seems as best pick today, although the odds are really low for them to pass through

Some of today's fixtures are really tricky, tbh. Some of the odds looks really valuable, for Instance Olympiacos vs Neftci Baku, I'll be back the Greeks despite the fact that they're away from home, because they have better experience and exposure. PSV who trashed Galatasaray last week are also offer over 2 odds today, could also be worth a shot.

Kairat Almaty sure looks like the most probable upset to occur today, but I won't be betting on them, though.

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Interesting games today in the preliminary qualifiers of Champions League.I think there is money to be made as always during these games,we only have to not touch difficult games and choose like easy ones.What I mean is if you want a nice win today at 1.50 odd we should choose Sheriff Tiraspol which plays against a much weaker team and they have won even away the first leg so playing at home should be an easy win for them.In the end this is gambling and anything can happen but in theory they should win easily.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on July 27, 2021, 05:28:38 PM

Am I the only one who doesn't care about these games? Grin

For me, the Champions will start with the draws and this year they will be the 26th of August.

Basically, these games are of interest to the fans of the teams participating in them and the betters. In terms of betting, these games are no worse than the Champions League group stage games, and in many ways even better. Given the fact that the losing team is eliminated from the tournament, there is a fundamental struggle in every match and there are no games where one of the opponents is demotivated.

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there is a bunch of matches today, and with all yesterday came as expected (favorites go through), today could be a chance to catch some upsets

nevertheless, it is hard to find which would be good to bet on, but I will try with Nefthi, Slovan and Kairat, one to get through, good enough
Ludogorets seems as best pick today, although the odds are really low for them to pass through

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on July 27, 2021, 05:28:38 PM

Am I the only one who doesn't care about these games? Grin

For me, the Champions will start with the draws and this year they will be the 26th of August.

Sometimes I care about these ones more than the real CL Grin

I guess it all depends on where you're from, for some of us from smaller countries these games are huge - because winning them means your local team can get into the CL. If you take CL for granted because the team you support plays in it every year - then these games are boring as hell because the quality is sometimes really low.

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Quote from: Smartvirus on July 27, 2021, 05:57:11 PM

Your actually putting Midtjylland ahead of Celtic @Youdacapt! I wonder what your seeing that I ain't seeing but, I do think even on there worst days, Celtic is a more better team than midtjylland. The toll of Covid-19 and the injuries that followed are gone. Now, its time footballers and its fans to express themselves.

Well, the games as at now might seem a lot undesirable, not worth a single minute spent on it but then, it is all we've got at the moment. The Euro tournament we had a while ago is long gone and the people, football fans just can't be so patient waiting on the scheduled time to kick start the league else,the games would have e been on by now. Perhaps it would have helped in saving a few bucks.

@Smartvirus I believe he may have seen Celtic recent matches where they were beaten, and hence he feels Celtic isn’t strong enough to make it. However I feel this qualification round is a whole different level, and I’ll be surprised if Celtic don’t make it because like you even I’m expecting them to qualify.

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I don't follow up the play-off around, so I don't know also how many teams will be able to the stage. there is a team who will be able to follow 1,2,3 qualification step because as the winner of the local league. So, how many teams are left? I just know the ticket has been given to 25 teams and 8 for the playoff.

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Your actually putting Midtjylland ahead of Celtic @Youdacapt! I wonder what your seeing that I ain't seeing but, I do think even on there worst days, Celtic is a more better team than midtjylland. The toll of Covid-19 and the injuries that followed are gone. Now, its time footballers and its fans to express themselves.

Well, the games as at now might seem a lot undesirable, not worth a single minute spent on it but then, it is all we've got at the moment. The Euro tournament we had a while ago is long gone and the people, football fans just can't be so patient waiting on the scheduled time to kick start the league else,the games would have e been on by now. Perhaps it would have helped in saving a few bucks.

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Am I the only one who doesn't care about these games? Grin

For me, the Champions will start with the draws and this year they will be the 26th of August.

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It's amazing odds on Celtic to make some positive result in Denmark against Midtjylland and I think they are better team even if they managed to get only 1:1 in first match at home ground.
Safest bet for me would be asian handicap or double chance on Celtic, so that even a draw result in regular time would be a winning bet.
Celtic is missing few important players defensive Nir Bitton and Leigh Griffiths is out but Albian Ajeti may return for this match.
Winner of this match will play against PSV or Galatasaray in next leg of qualifications.

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So, today games ended without any suprises, favorites won their games and reached next round. I saw pre-game odds for Dinamo Zagreb, it was about 2.40, did anyone took it?
9 more games tomorrow and only Galtasaray - PSV game doesn't matter. Midtjylland - Celtic is main game for me, but there is some more interesting pairs too.

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Quote from: youdacapt on July 26, 2021, 05:42:56 PM

Great run of fixtures in the champions league qualifier for the coming season; there has been several surprises and shocks and this is the beauty of the game. I am tipping PSV, Malmo, Dinamo, Olympiakos, Cluj, Midtylland, Young boys and Rapid Wien to get on to the next round
Are you rooting for anyone ?

The clubs you mentioned are the most likely to pass the next round. Of course it is always possible to have surprises, we are talking about football.

But, in this tie, practically the biggest clubs always win. Small clubs only pass when they play with another small club, which doesn't happen very often.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on July 26, 2021, 12:56:35 PM

Qualifying matches this week, with everything still possible for all teams except PSV Eindhoven.

On Wednesday I will keep my fingers crossed for Rapid Wien again, after the very bad game in their own league on Saturday it is also possible that they will lose the away game in Prague.

Great run of fixtures in the champions league qualifier for the coming season; there has been several surprises and shocks and this is the beauty of the game. I am tipping PSV, Malmo, Dinamo, Olympiakos, Cluj, Midtylland, Young boys and Rapid Wien to get on to the next round
Are you rooting for anyone ?

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Qualifying matches this week, with everything still possible for all teams except PSV Eindhoven.

On Wednesday I will keep my fingers crossed for Rapid Wien again, after the very bad game in their own league on Saturday it is also possible that they will lose the away game in Prague.

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Quote from: hd49728 on July 25, 2021, 09:42:10 PM

However, one of few good things is: the initiative brings challenge to the UEFA in order to force them to change their association. In the long run, the challenge from giant clubs can make UEFA better.

I don't know if the structures of the federation will really change that much. Usually two or three things are implemented where there are the biggest criticisms. And then other things are also changed that sound good from what the functionaries say. But if you go into the details (i.e. the texts for the new rules), you see that it will be quite different. And in the end the UEFA will be bigger than today.

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Quote from: KTChampions on July 24, 2021, 02:03:47 PM

It seems that you do not understand the fundamental difference between the Super League and the Champions League from UEFA - this is not the format of the competition, but the question of who distributes the money from the league's earnings. In the case of the Super League, clubs make money and the clubs distribute it; in the case of the UEFA Champions League, clubs make money and bastard officials distribute it. This antagonism will never be resolved until the extra link is thrown out of the business - the corrupt UEFA officials.

Super League is a plan from giant clubs to get more earnings for their clubs and they try to be independent from the UEFA control. They disagree with UEFA on distributions of rewards in the Champions League, to giant clubs and to major leagues.

It is not good for all clubs in the Europe and mostly for beneficiaries of giant clubs only. However, one of few good things is: the initiative brings challenge to the UEFA in order to force them to change their association. In the long run, the challenge from giant clubs can make UEFA better.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on July 24, 2021, 10:49:35 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on July 24, 2021, 04:04:19 AM

Yes, the Super League is now on hiatus, although it has not been disbanded, this is encouraging. Hopefully soon we will find out some news and the process of its creation will go again. I think this is very likely because a lot of money was invested in it and the banks that invested in this project knew what they were doing and they knew that UEFA would resist. So they must have a plan for how to overcome it.

It seems to me that Real, Barcelona and Milan are pushing this Super League project the most for obvious reasons.
All 3 clubs have serious financial problems and urgently need fresh money.
However, the Super League project failed because most of the founding clubs gave up, a bank from america has given up investing in this project and the public didn't accept this league.
These clubs are lucky that UEFA didn't exclude them from the competition in the Champions League.
In fact, the UEFA proposal to change the competition system in the Champions League is very close to the concept of the Super League and it is unfortunate.

It seems that you do not understand the fundamental difference between the Super League and the Champions League from UEFA - this is not the format of the competition, but the question of who distributes the money from the league's earnings. In the case of the Super League, clubs make money and the clubs distribute it; in the case of the UEFA Champions League, clubs make money and bastard officials distribute it. This antagonism will never be resolved until the extra link is thrown out of the business - the corrupt UEFA officials.

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Quote from: KTChampions on July 24, 2021, 04:04:19 AM

Quote from: boltz on July 23, 2021, 04:19:26 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on July 23, 2021, 04:13:42 PM

I hope that the Super League will emerge, and the one that will destroy the competition from UEFA. But here I care only about eliminating corruption, not about the players - in my opinion, they have a quite adequate schedule of games even now. The teams have large squads, players are constantly rotated, plus modern recovery tools help to quickly take a break from matches.

As far as I know the Super League papers are still there and signed that means the project is on stand by for now or at least this is what I know.

Regarding qualifiers games , is pure lottery at some games so better go with goals and most of the times the favorite team wins.

Yes, the Super League is now on hiatus, although it has not been disbanded, this is encouraging. Hopefully soon we will find out some news and the process of its creation will go again. I think this is very likely because a lot of money was invested in it and the banks that invested in this project knew what they were doing and they knew that UEFA would resist. So they must have a plan for how to overcome it.

It seems to me that Real, Barcelona and Milan are pushing this Super League project the most for obvious reasons.
All 3 clubs have serious financial problems and urgently need fresh money.
However, the Super League project failed because most of the founding clubs gave up, a bank from america has given up investing in this project and the public didn't accept this league.
These clubs are lucky that UEFA didn't exclude them from the competition in the Champions League.
In fact, the UEFA proposal to change the competition system in the Champions League is very close to the concept of the Super League and it is unfortunate.

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Quote from: boltz on July 23, 2021, 04:19:26 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on July 23, 2021, 04:13:42 PM

I hope that the Super League will emerge, and the one that will destroy the competition from UEFA. But here I care only about eliminating corruption, not about the players - in my opinion, they have a quite adequate schedule of games even now. The teams have large squads, players are constantly rotated, plus modern recovery tools help to quickly take a break from matches.

As far as I know the Super League papers are still there and signed that means the project is on stand by for now or at least this is what I know.

Regarding qualifiers games , is pure lottery at some games so better go with goals and most of the times the favorite team wins.

Yes, the Super League is now on hiatus, although it has not been disbanded, this is encouraging. Hopefully soon we will find out some news and the process of its creation will go again. I think this is very likely because a lot of money was invested in it and the banks that invested in this project knew what they were doing and they knew that UEFA would resist. So they must have a plan for how to overcome it.

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