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Quote from: Mistafreeze on May 11, 2021, 06:43:50 AM

Quote from: blue Snow on May 10, 2021, 08:55:57 PM

Should we call back Arsene Wenger?

Arsenal Is Beyond Arsene wenger's repairs the only way right now is to sell the club to a more sporty person who can invest so much in the club, so many things need to be replaced at the club, from the coaching staffs to the training facilities and more so on players.

Unfortunately, Arsenal seems to have stopped in time and continues to act like it was in the 90s. They really need a major overhaul to be able to start performing better.

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Quote from: blue Snow on May 10, 2021, 08:55:57 PM

Should we call back Arsene Wenger?

Arsenal Is Beyond Arsene wenger's repairs the only way right now is to sell the club to a more sporty person who can invest so much in the club, so many things need to be replaced at the club, from the coaching staffs to the training facilities and more so on players.

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Quote from: acquafredda on May 11, 2021, 12:39:26 AM

Funny!

I am sure there are plenty of unofficial and unrecognized bookmakers who are taking even those bets!
As for London, Istanbul or Lisbon there is no correct choice: it has never happened before in History that the Champions League venue was going to change. Giving it to England certainly feels like the simplest thing to do as both teams are British but that could create a problematic precedent.

Last year, it also had to change, it was in Portugal / Lisbon.
Therefore, I doubt that they would choose Portugal again. And if they choose, it's just because they don't want to do it in the same country as the teams.

But to bet, I would say it was in England.

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Quote from: acquafredda on May 10, 2021, 11:57:10 AM

Another update!
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/may/10/champions-league-final-could-be-switched-from-istanbul-to-wembley
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/57051804
IMHO, one thing is now clear: Istanbul is NOT going to be the Champions League final venue. According to those mentioned sources UEFA is investigating about moving the final to either England or Portugal!

I believe it will be in London, as it would be more "correct" to hold this great event in the country of the finalists.
But anyway, let's see what they decide at today's meeting... I read that they have up to 48 hours after that meeting to define and disclose where the final will be.

Is there any site to bet this too? Grin

Funny!

I am sure there are plenty of unofficial and unrecognized bookmakers who are taking even those bets!
As for London, Istanbul or Lisbon there is no correct choice: it has never happened before in History that the Champions League venue was going to change. Giving it to England certainly feels like the simplest thing to do as both teams are British but that could create a problematic precedent.

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Quote from: acquafredda on May 10, 2021, 11:57:10 AM

Istanbul is NOT going to be the Champions League final venue. According to those mentioned sources UEFA is investigating about moving the final to either England or Portugal!

That I want to know my post above. IMO, Portugal is the best with the neutral place.

Quote from: Iranus on May 10, 2021, 04:48:06 AM

The coaches of both teams are experienced enough and skilled.

this final is the war strategy, I know both teams have good players, they have played better in his position. It's just playing strategy. So far, Pep Guardiola is better than Tuchel, 6 meets, Pep going to 4 wins, and Tuchel only 1 winner in semifinals FA 17 April ago. I bet in Chelsea atm, I hope the England atmosphere formulating the Tuchel strategy, Kante is still a playmaker to attacking defender, but he doesn't need to help on defense either.

Quote from: Wawa2013 on May 10, 2021, 05:31:25 PM

If Arsenal want to go back into the big four, they have to fire Arteta, because I see that Arteta is no longer able to make Arsenal play well.

Should we call back Arsene Wenger?

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Quote from: acquafredda on May 10, 2021, 11:57:10 AM

Another update!
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/may/10/champions-league-final-could-be-switched-from-istanbul-to-wembley
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/57051804
IMHO, one thing is now clear: Istanbul is NOT going to be the Champions League final venue. According to those mentioned sources UEFA is investigating about moving the final to either England or Portugal!

My money is on Wembley. Its a very prominent stadium where an event of such caliber should hold. Istanbul would be a preferred choice but since its unavailable, I have a strong feeling that UEFA would end up picking Wembley as the venue for the final match.

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I didn't watch the Premier League match, but for some reason I think Man City could win the Champions League! Even if they recently lost to Chelsea at home it doesn't mean anything in the Champions League... Although I agree that only strong clubs make it to the finals! Wink

That's true. Chelsea has greatly improved since Tuchel took over from Lampard but this is Guardiola chance to win a trophy that City has never won and I think he would eventually win it.

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Quote from: acquafredda on May 10, 2021, 11:57:10 AM

Another update!
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/may/10/champions-league-final-could-be-switched-from-istanbul-to-wembley
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/57051804
IMHO, one thing is now clear: Istanbul is NOT going to be the Champions League final venue. According to those mentioned sources UEFA is investigating about moving the final to either England or Portugal!

There were a few premier league clubs that were set to be the venue for the Finals and even Spurs had a chance to make a bid for the finals as their stadium is very new and high tech but they declined the opportunity. Wembley seems to be the perfect place for a match of this stature. The pitch is slightly wider than the usual premier league pitches and since there wont be many spectators, the seats being far away from the pitch wont make much of a difference.

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Quote from: CLS63 on May 10, 2021, 03:20:45 PM

Quote from: acquafredda on May 10, 2021, 11:57:10 AM

Another update!
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/may/10/champions-league-final-could-be-switched-from-istanbul-to-wembley
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/57051804
IMHO, one thing is now clear: Istanbul is NOT going to be the Champions League final venue. According to those mentioned sources UEFA is investigating about moving the final to either England or Portugal!

I would like to see the final in Istanbul but it looks like we will not see it again. Anyway, then I would prefer Wembley as I really like the stadium. And it wouldn't be bad to see the final in the UK as both teams are a British club.

Currently the FA is in talks regarding the plan to move the Champions League final which was previously scheduled in Turkey, but now Turkey is a country that is in the red zone of the corona pandemic, and I personally strongly agree if it is a final the match was moved to England because indeed the two teams came from the same country so that at least the supporters of the two teams were not too far away to travel to see their favorite team, moreover this movement could suppress the spread of the corona virus that might be brought or brought home by Chelsea and Manchester city fans.

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Quote from: acquafredda on May 10, 2021, 11:57:10 AM

Another update!
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/may/10/champions-league-final-could-be-switched-from-istanbul-to-wembley
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/57051804
IMHO, one thing is now clear: Istanbul is NOT going to be the Champions League final venue. According to those mentioned sources UEFA is investigating about moving the final to either England or Portugal!

I would like to see the final in Istanbul but it looks like we will not see it again. Anyway, then I would prefer Wembley as I really like the stadium. And it wouldn't be bad to see the final in the UK as both teams are a British club.

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Quote from: vennali on May 10, 2021, 07:15:33 AM

I am leaning towards Man City as well since they have been very consistent for a long period of time. The recent results doesnt really matter to them as they arent of any consequence to them when compared to Chelsea. Even though I think they could improve in their striker fronts(especially since Aguero will leave at the end of the season for free) but other than that, they are a very solid and cohesive team. I will most likely wager on Man City to win the champions league.

I want to say I agree with you, I want to say that City beat a lot of good teams and most recently beat PSG which beat Bayern so they are really doing great and by large City is the favorites for winning the cup as well, everyone agrees on the fact that they are the favorites. However one thing is for certain, Chelsea is not a bad team neither, they have come to champions league finals and no matter who you played to get here, if you came all this way that means you are a great team.

This is why I think it is quite obvious that it is not going to be a piece of cake for City neither, they might be favorites but they are not going against some second level team, they are going against a team that made it to champions league finals. This is why I believe this is going to be more of a competition than many people imagine, it is not going to be easy at all.

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Quote from: acquafredda on May 10, 2021, 11:57:10 AM

Another update!
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/may/10/champions-league-final-could-be-switched-from-istanbul-to-wembley
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/57051804
IMHO, one thing is now clear: Istanbul is NOT going to be the Champions League final venue. According to those mentioned sources UEFA is investigating about moving the final to either England or Portugal!

I believe it will be in London, as it would be more "correct" to hold this great event in the country of the finalists.
But anyway, let's see what they decide at today's meeting... I read that they have up to 48 hours after that meeting to define and disclose where the final will be.

Is there any site to bet this too? Grin

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Quote from: AakZaki on May 10, 2021, 02:01:21 PM

Quote from: Lordhermes on May 07, 2021, 06:15:17 AM

The English clubs did very powerful this season, they are one of the most improved league this season with outstanding results, Manchester United score line against Roma was incredible with high number of goals, Chelsea was regarded as the club that destroy the history of Real Madrid, the Blancos chance to play at semifinal automatically qualifies them of winning UEFA, I think the history was damaged.

If you look at the EPL matches Man City lost 1-2 to Chelsea. Aguero missed a penalty. Maybe the match was the second warm-up match before competing in the final. I don't expect it to happen again, City lost. They play a balanced match, maybe I would prefer Manchester City to win, after Madrid were eliminated. However, the results of the match in the EPL cannot describe the final results of the UCL later. I think the final will be more interesting.

The same between EPL and champion league and most favorite Chelsea get champion league trophy, maybe City still not enough for Chelsea and Thomas Tuchel always win with all coach primer league on top team like City, MU, Liverpool and Arsenal. great performance after change lampard and Chelsea always give surprise so far.

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Quote from: Lordhermes on May 07, 2021, 06:15:17 AM

The English clubs did very powerful this season, they are one of the most improved league this season with outstanding results, Manchester United score line against Roma was incredible with high number of goals, Chelsea was regarded as the club that destroy the history of Real Madrid, the Blancos chance to play at semifinal automatically qualifies them of winning UEFA, I think the history was damaged.

If you look at the EPL matches Man City lost 1-2 to Chelsea. Aguero missed a penalty. Maybe the match was the second warm-up match before competing in the final. I don't expect it to happen again, City lost. They play a balanced match, maybe I would prefer Manchester City to win, after Madrid were eliminated. However, the results of the match in the EPL cannot describe the final results of the UCL later. I think the final will be more interesting.

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Quote from: W Jr. on May 10, 2021, 03:17:14 AM

The Manchester City-Chelsea match played in the League can be considered a rehearsal of UCL's final match. We can understand from this match that both teams are almost equal. Chelsea beat Manchester City 2-1 with a goal in 90 + 2. There is no dominant team in the final match. It will be a fierce match.

Two teams of the same quality. The coaches of both teams are experienced enough and skilled. Everyone is hoping that the Champions League final will be very competitive and exciting. I watched the Premier League match between Chelsea and Manchester City. Although Chelsea have won, Manchester City have played much better.

I do not agree that two teams have the same quality. The winning capability tilts a little to Mancity because they have been one of the strongest teams in EPL for many years. Even though Chelsea won the previous confrontation, Man city will definitely be the next champion of EPL so that does not affect the final result. They will gather all the power for the final

I also believe that the final will be fascinating. We have not seen many good finals in the last couple of years

Chelsea have focused more on the Champions League this season. And they were able to reach the final. Manchester City has done very well in the Premier League. But Manchester City have lost the last two matches against Chelsea. Chelsea reached the final of the FA cup by defeating Manchester City. So there is nothing to underestimate the power of Chelsea team. But I think Manchester City will win the Champions League, since I'm a fan of Guardiola.

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Another update!
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/may/10/champions-league-final-could-be-switched-from-istanbul-to-wembley
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/57051804
IMHO, one thing is now clear: Istanbul is NOT going to be the Champions League final venue. According to those mentioned sources UEFA is investigating about moving the final to either England or Portugal!

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I didn't watch the Premier League match, but for some reason I think Man City could win the Champions League! Even if they recently lost to Chelsea at home it doesn't mean anything in the Champions League... Although I agree that only strong clubs make it to the finals! Wink

I am also sure that Manchester City will also win the Champions League, even though Mencherter City lost in the EPL yesterday, I don't think it was affected at all, because I saw that yesterday Manchester City only played second tier players, they didn't lose all their core players. ,,
because Manchester City has become the EPL champion ..
and the champions will follow later ..

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Quote from: W Jr. on May 10, 2021, 03:17:14 AM

The Manchester City-Chelsea match played in the League can be considered a rehearsal of UCL's final match. We can understand from this match that both teams are almost equal. Chelsea beat Manchester City 2-1 with a goal in 90 + 2. There is no dominant team in the final match. It will be a fierce match.

Still too much unknowns if you look at the players deployed by both sides during the EPL match. City mostly played its B team and Cheslea had its core players rested except for a couple. At the top of my head, I think Werner and Kante were core players played and some more at the back. But it’s going to be a fun match for sure.

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Quote from: slapper on May 10, 2021, 07:06:11 AM

Quote from: Iranus on May 10, 2021, 04:48:06 AM

Quote from: W Jr. on May 10, 2021, 03:17:14 AM

The Manchester City-Chelsea match played in the League can be considered a rehearsal of UCL's final match. We can understand from this match that both teams are almost equal. Chelsea beat Manchester City 2-1 with a goal in 90 + 2. There is no dominant team in the final match. It will be a fierce match.

Two teams of the same quality. The coaches of both teams are experienced enough and skilled. Everyone is hoping that the Champions League final will be very competitive and exciting. I watched the Premier League match between Chelsea and Manchester City. Although Chelsea have won, Manchester City have played much better.

I do not agree that two teams have the same quality. The winning capability tilts a little to Mancity because they have been one of the strongest teams in EPL for many years. Even though Chelsea won the previous confrontation, Man city will definitely be the next champion of EPL so that does not affect the final result. They will gather all the power for the final

I also believe that the final will be fascinating. We have not seen many good finals in the last couple of years

I am leaning towards Man City as well since they have been very consistent for a long period of time. The recent results doesnt really matter to them as they arent of any consequence to them when compared to Chelsea. Even though I think they could improve in their striker fronts(especially since Aguero will leave at the end of the season for free) but other than that, they are a very solid and cohesive team. I will most likely wager on Man City to win the champions league.

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Quote from: Iranus on May 10, 2021, 04:48:06 AM

Quote from: W Jr. on May 10, 2021, 03:17:14 AM

The Manchester City-Chelsea match played in the League can be considered a rehearsal of UCL's final match. We can understand from this match that both teams are almost equal. Chelsea beat Manchester City 2-1 with a goal in 90 + 2. There is no dominant team in the final match. It will be a fierce match.

Two teams of the same quality. The coaches of both teams are experienced enough and skilled. Everyone is hoping that the Champions League final will be very competitive and exciting. I watched the Premier League match between Chelsea and Manchester City. Although Chelsea have won, Manchester City have played much better.

I do not agree that two teams have the same quality. The winning capability tilts a little to Mancity because they have been one of the strongest teams in EPL for many years. Even though Chelsea won the previous confrontation, Man city will definitely be the next champion of EPL so that does not affect the final result. They will gather all the power for the final

I also believe that the final will be fascinating. We have not seen many good finals in the last couple of years

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Quote from: Iranus on May 10, 2021, 04:48:06 AM

Quote from: W Jr. on May 10, 2021, 03:17:14 AM

The Manchester City-Chelsea match played in the League can be considered a rehearsal of UCL's final match. We can understand from this match that both teams are almost equal. Chelsea beat Manchester City 2-1 with a goal in 90 + 2. There is no dominant team in the final match. It will be a fierce match.

Two teams of the same quality. The coaches of both teams are experienced enough and skilled. Everyone is hoping that the Champions League final will be very competitive and exciting. I watched the Premier League match between Chelsea and Manchester City. Although Chelsea have won, Manchester City have played much better.

Right bro. Manchester City played well but lost. That's why football is good. Even if you play a game with pressure for 90 minutes, you can be beaten by the last minute goal. While you're just thinking that it's over, one goal can change everything. Let's see what awaits us in the next Chelsea-Manchester City UCL final.

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