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Quote from: Mauser on April 26, 2021, 07:02:37 AM

So what is going to happen to Barcelona and Real Madrid after the Super league fiasco? I heard both of the two clubs could get banned from the next champions league season. Wouldn't this be a good decision for the other clubs? There would be much higher chances of another team winning. Maybe we can take advantage of it by betting on some non favourite teams who will have much better chances once the top teams are out?

The UEFA president has already said that they need to officially leave the Super League, otherwise they could be expelled.
In case they leave, I doubt that they will be banned just for trying... we are talking about two great teams that have many fans.
UEFA itself would also have a lot to lose if both were prevented from participating.

In any case, you can forget about this Super League, Real Madrid is the only one that still has this ambition and will not be able to make it work.

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Quote from: joker_josue on April 18, 2021, 02:09:54 AM

Quote from: mv1986 on April 17, 2021, 04:08:04 PM

So what now? Chelsea just beat Manchester City in the FA Cup. In my opinion that is quite huge. Chelsea plays so well in the defense right now, one goal is enough for them to bring it home. I agree they are no favorite for the Champions League title, but....

... nothing is impossible! Wink

The FA Cup should be one of the most difficult competitions to assess the true performance of a team.
Every year, small teams beat big teams in that competition.

For example, this season Southampton won Arsenal 1-0 in the cup, three days later they lost to the league with Arsenal 1-3.

The FA Cup is not the ideal test for making predictions.

I would definitely disagree. Look at all the finals of the last 7 years, it was always the favorites. The last time a smaller team won the FA cup was in 2013.

City is the favorite, yes, but still. It's like it would be an easy game. I think the games in the CL will be very close.

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Quote from: Iranus on April 26, 2021, 06:30:27 AM

Quote from: bitzizzix on April 26, 2021, 02:26:33 AM

Any club playing at home will benefit from possession of the pitch and currently playing at home there is no guarantee that they will always win because without crowd support it looks like something is missing.
and currently Chelsea's performance is very good in defense and attack and if Real Madrid can only draw at home, it will be a vigilance for Real Madrid to play at Chelsea's home.

Chelsea is performing very well in the Champions League. It seems that their goal is to win the Champions League. Chelsea have won both home and away matches against Atletico Madrid. They played great. I wouldn't be surprised if Chelsea beat Real Madrid in the next match. The team that wins the first match will definitely be ahead. Because the defense of both the teams is good enough. If they win the first match, they will play the second match completely defensively. Both the teams will playing this match with the aim of wining the match.

Atletico Madrid got a huge performance drop in the draw against Chelsea and Chelsea benefited from it really well. But I don't expect the similar scenario against Real Madrid of course. They are much stronger and dedicated to win the title. And we've seen it against Liverpool. So, both legs will be very tough.

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Quote from: Iranus on April 26, 2021, 06:30:27 AM

Quote from: bitzizzix on April 26, 2021, 02:26:33 AM

Any club playing at home will benefit from possession of the pitch and currently playing at home there is no guarantee that they will always win because without crowd support it looks like something is missing.
and currently Chelsea's performance is very good in defense and attack and if Real Madrid can only draw at home, it will be a vigilance for Real Madrid to play at Chelsea's home.

Chelsea is performing very well in the Champions League. It seems that their goal is to win the Champions League. Chelsea have won both home and away matches against Atletico Madrid. They played great. I wouldn't be surprised if Chelsea beat Real Madrid in the next match. The team that wins the first match will definitely be ahead. Because the defense of both the teams is good enough. If they win the first match, they will play the second match completely defensively. Both the teams will playing this match with the aim of wining the match.

Yes, it looks like Chelsea will focus more on the Champions League semifinals and will prepare their strength for the match at Real Madrid.
and Chelsea coach Thomas Tuchel is more focused on away goals or a draw to make it easier to host Real Madrid at Stamford Bridge in the second leg at home to Chelsea.
And it will be a very tense match and it looks like there will be a lot of fouls, and it looks like Real Madrid will try to win the first leg at home and Chelsea will also strengthen its defense.

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So what is going to happen to Barcelona and Real Madrid after the Super league fiasco? I heard both of the two clubs could get banned from the next champions league season. Wouldn't this be a good decision for the other clubs? There would be much higher chances of another team winning. Maybe we can take advantage of it by betting on some non favourite teams who will have much better chances once the top teams are out?

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Quote from: bitzizzix on April 26, 2021, 02:26:33 AM

Any club playing at home will benefit from possession of the pitch and currently playing at home there is no guarantee that they will always win because without crowd support it looks like something is missing.
and currently Chelsea's performance is very good in defense and attack and if Real Madrid can only draw at home, it will be a vigilance for Real Madrid to play at Chelsea's home.

Chelsea is performing very well in the Champions League. It seems that their goal is to win the Champions League. Chelsea have won both home and away matches against Atletico Madrid. They played great. I wouldn't be surprised if Chelsea beat Real Madrid in the next match. The team that wins the first match will definitely be ahead. Because the defense of both the teams is good enough. If they win the first match, they will play the second match completely defensively. Both the teams will playing this match with the aim of wining the match.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on April 25, 2021, 05:42:30 AM

A big match between PSG and Manchester City is coming soon and it seems that PSG will have to play without the best player.
Spanish magazine Marca reported that Mbappe was injured in PSG's last game against Metz and that his performance against Manchester City is uncertain.
If that really happens, it will be a big handicap for PSG and will increase Manchester City's chances for a better result.
Pochettino, however, believes that everything will be fine and that Mbappe will perform on Wednesday.

Source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/ligue-1/2021/04/24/608458b022601d524c8b4631.html

Mbappe's condition is questionable for now. I hope he can play in the first leg. Without him, PSG will lose a lot of power I think. He is really in form lately and scored 2 goals in the last league game. If he plays, I think PSG may win the first leg with a 1-goal difference. Otherwise, I think City may draw with them at least.

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Quote from: Iranus on April 26, 2021, 01:39:42 AM

Quote from: Shasha80 on April 25, 2021, 03:51:09 AM

I agree that Chelsea really have to use a counter-attack strategy if they want to beat Real Madrid. Moreover, playing home for Real Madrid will
definitely take the initiative to attack. So Chelsea can take advantage of Madrid's defensive line that will move forward, and most importantly
Chelsea must apply direct passing. So when doing a counter-attack it can be very fast, let alone take advantage of Werner's speed, Chelsea
should be able to score goals.

When a team plays at their home ground, naturally they have a bit more advantage. Their players will be more cheerful mentally. The plus point for Real Madrid is that they will play the first match on their home ground. If they win this match, they will be able to perform well in the next match too.

Any club playing at home will benefit from possession of the pitch and currently playing at home there is no guarantee that they will always win because without crowd support it looks like something is missing.
and currently Chelsea's performance is very good in defense and attack and if Real Madrid can only draw at home, it will be a vigilance for Real Madrid to play at Chelsea's home.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on April 25, 2021, 05:42:30 AM

A big match between PSG and Manchester City is coming soon and it seems that PSG will have to play without the best player.
Spanish magazine Marca reported that Mbappe was injured in PSG's last game against Metz and that his performance against Manchester City is uncertain.
If that really happens, it will be a big handicap for PSG and will increase Manchester City's chances for a better result.
Pochettino, however, believes that everything will be fine and that Mbappe will perform on Wednesday.

Source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/ligue-1/2021/04/24/608458b022601d524c8b4631.html

Mbappe is a football player that every team wants to see in the top 11. If he is really injured and unable to play, things turn out well for Chelsea. I think Chelsea are looking forward to this. Chelsea - PSG match will be very exciting. I think Chelsea will get an advantageous score without Mbappe.

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Quote from: Shasha80 on April 25, 2021, 03:51:09 AM

I agree that Chelsea really have to use a counter-attack strategy if they want to beat Real Madrid. Moreover, playing home for Real Madrid will
definitely take the initiative to attack. So Chelsea can take advantage of Madrid's defensive line that will move forward, and most importantly
Chelsea must apply direct passing. So when doing a counter-attack it can be very fast, let alone take advantage of Werner's speed, Chelsea
should be able to score goals.

When a team plays at their home ground, naturally they have a bit more advantage. Their players will be more cheerful mentally. The plus point for Real Madrid is that they will play the first match on their home ground. If they win this match, they will be able to perform well in the next match too.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on April 25, 2021, 05:42:30 AM

A big match between PSG and Manchester City is coming soon and it seems that PSG will have to play without the best player.
Spanish magazine Marca reported that Mbappe was injured in PSG's last game against Metz and that his performance against Manchester City is uncertain.
If that really happens, it will be a big handicap for PSG and will increase Manchester City's chances for a better result.
Pochettino, however, believes that everything will be fine and that Mbappe will perform on Wednesday.

Source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/ligue-1/2021/04/24/608458b022601d524c8b4631.html

If Mbappe won't be able to join the match, even as a substitution for PSG, Neymar will be the biggest star for PSG. He will be the hope for the club that is the main reason PSG director board spent hundred thousands of $ to bring him to Parc de Princes from Barcelona.

It is the time for Neymar Jr. to show his importance.

Quote from: tyz on April 25, 2021, 06:20:09 AM

After Tuchel became Chelsea coach, the team has improved extremely defensively, but the offense is still the problem. Without the strong defense Chelsea could not have won last six of seven games, because these were always very close, often only 1-0. Real has had problems in the defense again and again this season, that could be the big chance for Chelsea, if they manage to stand compact at the back again and use the counterattacks in front.

Tuchel brought Chelsea to another level and I don't think Lampard can help Chelsea to move so far like this in Champions League. Especially a big challenge for Lampard if he has to face with Atletico Madrid and Diego Simeone.

Tuchel and Pochettino can be considered as equal in their management abilities and management records, achievements so far. I hope that they will help Chelsea and PSG go to the finale and have their second Champions League finale. One of them will have epxerience as a winner after all.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on April 25, 2021, 03:39:49 AM

Chelsea could really do a great job if they choose to give importance to counter-attacks. Because I assume Real Madrid will have the control of the game most of the time. Even getting a draw would be advantageous for Chelsea.

After Tuchel became Chelsea coach, the team has improved extremely defensively, but the offense is still the problem. Without the strong defense Chelsea could not have won last six of seven games, because these were always very close, often only 1-0. Real has had problems in the defense again and again this season, that could be the big chance for Chelsea, if they manage to stand compact at the back again and use the counterattacks in front.

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A big match between PSG and Manchester City is coming soon and it seems that PSG will have to play without the best player.
Spanish magazine Marca reported that Mbappe was injured in PSG's last game against Metz and that his performance against Manchester City is uncertain.
If that really happens, it will be a big handicap for PSG and will increase Manchester City's chances for a better result.
Pochettino, however, believes that everything will be fine and that Mbappe will perform on Wednesday.

Source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/ligue-1/2021/04/24/608458b022601d524c8b4631.html

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Quote from: Iranus on April 25, 2021, 02:43:29 AM

Quote from: joker_josue on April 24, 2021, 12:58:33 PM

Quote from: Iranus on April 24, 2021, 11:20:34 AM

From your point of view, you are right. Chelsea will not play slow football, Real Madrid defenders will have to deal with lots of counterattacks. But I believe nothing is impossible for Real Madrid and Zidane. So Real Madrid's victory with 2-3 goals is difficult but not impossible.

Chelsea ended up winning against FC Porto, due to their effectiveness of the counterattacks. Clearly it will be the most used strategy against Real Madrid.
Try to defend well, and whenever possible to counterattack.

Because in my opinion, in a busy game they are inferior to Real Madrid. But the difference may be in this counterattack strategy, which they are good at.

If Chelsea play slow football or passing tactics against a team like Real Madrid, they will undoubtedly lose. Because Real Madrid is quite experienced in passing football tactics. Chelsea must adopt a counterattack strategy to win against Real Madrid. I do not see an alternative

I agree that Chelsea really have to use a counter-attack strategy if they want to beat Real Madrid. Moreover, playing home for Real Madrid will
definitely take the initiative to attack. So Chelsea can take advantage of Madrid's defensive line that will move forward, and most importantly
Chelsea must apply direct passing. So when doing a counter-attack it can be very fast, let alone take advantage of Werner's speed, Chelsea
should be able to score goals.

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Quote from: Iranus on April 25, 2021, 02:43:29 AM

Quote from: joker_josue on April 24, 2021, 12:58:33 PM

Quote from: Iranus on April 24, 2021, 11:20:34 AM

From your point of view, you are right. Chelsea will not play slow football, Real Madrid defenders will have to deal with lots of counterattacks. But I believe nothing is impossible for Real Madrid and Zidane. So Real Madrid's victory with 2-3 goals is difficult but not impossible.

Chelsea ended up winning against FC Porto, due to their effectiveness of the counterattacks. Clearly it will be the most used strategy against Real Madrid.
Try to defend well, and whenever possible to counterattack.

Because in my opinion, in a busy game they are inferior to Real Madrid. But the difference may be in this counterattack strategy, which they are good at.

If Chelsea play slow football or passing tactics against a team like Real Madrid, they will undoubtedly lose. Because Real Madrid is quite experienced in passing football tactics. Chelsea must adopt a counterattack strategy to win against Real Madrid. I do not see an alternative

Chelsea could really do a great job if they choose to give importance to counter-attacks. Because I assume Real Madrid will have the control of the game most of the time. Even getting a draw would be advantageous for Chelsea.

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Quote from: joker_josue on April 24, 2021, 12:58:33 PM

Quote from: Iranus on April 24, 2021, 11:20:34 AM

From your point of view, you are right. Chelsea will not play slow football, Real Madrid defenders will have to deal with lots of counterattacks. But I believe nothing is impossible for Real Madrid and Zidane. So Real Madrid's victory with 2-3 goals is difficult but not impossible.

Chelsea ended up winning against FC Porto, due to their effectiveness of the counterattacks. Clearly it will be the most used strategy against Real Madrid.
Try to defend well, and whenever possible to counterattack.

Because in my opinion, in a busy game they are inferior to Real Madrid. But the difference may be in this counterattack strategy, which they are good at.

If Chelsea play slow football or passing tactics against a team like Real Madrid, they will undoubtedly lose. Because Real Madrid is quite experienced in passing football tactics. Chelsea must adopt a counterattack strategy to win against Real Madrid. I do not see an alternative

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Quote from: jakdanyel on April 24, 2021, 06:35:36 PM

We are getting closer to the game between Real Madrid and Chelsea which is going to be played three days later. Real Madrid got a draw in their last league game against Betis. However, Chelsea defeated West Ham in a very close game. This results might affect the performance of each team a little. But I'm sure that both of them will be prepared well for this game. Real Madrid will try to do the same thing again, getting a good result in the first leg. Chelsea seem to be stronger in defense compared to Liverpool. Hence, an interesting game is waiting for us.

I also think that it is not necessary to link the result in La Liga with the upcoming game, because these are slightly different things, although the upcoming game was also kept in mind. For example, if it wasn't for the Chelsea game, I think Zidane could have released Eden Hazard earlier. Real Madrid continues to fight for the championship, so they can not afford to do such a luxury to let their leaders miss the championship matches. Chelsea, too, continue to fight for a place in the coveted top four, so the teams are in roughly the same conditions with the only difference that Real Madrid need to think more about winning a home match. I think Real Madrid will win with a minimum score.

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We are getting closer to the game between Real Madrid and Chelsea which is going to be played three days later. Real Madrid got a draw in their last league game against Betis. However, Chelsea defeated West Ham in a very close game. This results might affect the performance of each team a little. But I'm sure that both of them will be prepared well for this game. Real Madrid will try to do the same thing again, getting a good result in the first leg. Chelsea seem to be stronger in defense compared to Liverpool. Hence, an interesting game is waiting for us.

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3 out of 4 remaining teams were involved with European Super League, I am not sure about PSG but from what I read they were involved at least a bit, even if not founders they were accepting the possibility which means ALL teams remaining in the champions league right now were part of it. You can go further back and Bayern, Porto, Dortmund and Liverpool all involved once again, so all 8 teams were involved, I can go back and find out about the rest but if you have 8 of the best teams in a league format, you do that, there is no going back.

Only thing that kept us from seeing this league was the greed of Uefa and that's it, nothing more. I am not saying that it is going to happen or should happen, under the threat of Uefa they couldn't do it and that makes sense, but if it were to happen without any problems coming from Uefa this would have been a great deal.

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Quote from: Iranus on April 24, 2021, 11:20:34 AM

From your point of view, you are right. Chelsea will not play slow football, Real Madrid defenders will have to deal with lots of counterattacks. But I believe nothing is impossible for Real Madrid and Zidane. So Real Madrid's victory with 2-3 goals is difficult but not impossible.

Chelsea ended up winning against FC Porto, due to their effectiveness of the counterattacks. Clearly it will be the most used strategy against Real Madrid.
Try to defend well, and whenever possible to counterattack.

Because in my opinion, in a busy game they are inferior to Real Madrid. But the difference may be in this counterattack strategy, which they are good at.

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