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After this whole ESL 'drama', there are 4 days left for the semi-final games to start. Real Madrid are going to host Chelsea in the first leg on Tuesday. Both of them have a league game 3 days before this match. The result of them could have an affect on their performance in this game. For the first game, I think Real Madrid are a little more dominant. And I expect them to win this by 1 goal.
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I don't know whether it was the right time or not. But I do believe that this is absolutely a sign of huge changes that we can see in the future. UEFA was totally against this move but it should be aware of something that the system won't stay the same forever.

I am disappointed with how the teams treat the fans, they think we will be happy to shell out more and more money
It is not so
the teams have become too voracious and spend too much


see Antonio Conte's salary


honestly if everything starts to go up in price, I will choose where it suits me and where I enjoy myself at a fair price
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It looks like all of the Premier League clubs that joined the European Super League have decided to withdraw from the competition. Manchester City firstly decided to do it and Chelsea followed them. And now all of them did the same. Then it means that UEFA won this battle at least for now.
This whole 'super league' drama came at the wrong time imo, as i believe it could be a distraction for some of the teams still left in the Uefa champions league competition, for a team like Manchester City hoping to win their first CL this season, they need a pretty high concentration level, and in one way or another, in the past week, the 'super league' has somewhat shifted attention away from the CL. Pep was very critical of the 'super league' idea in his press conference on Tuesday, and I just hope he keeps his team together for their crucial game against PSG; and the situation is also the same for the other teams.

Having said that, for the proposed super league tournament, we can only hope it doesn't resurface again, even if it likely will, but let's be rest assured that the footballing bodies and fans around the world will always say no to such a 'greedy' proposition anytime.

the super league drama coming in right time, cause COVID many team have much debits and 'super league' give to teams much money than UEFA

this is, they tink only at money.. UEFA, teams, and so on

they think we can pay MORE and MORE every year, they think we can BUY MORE and MORE

not me, for me if is funny at right price, i see these teams, if cost so much.. i see other teams, no problem for me

I don't know whether it was the right time or not. But I do believe that this is absolutely a sign of huge changes that we can see in the future. UEFA was totally against this move but it should be aware of something that the system won't stay the same forever.
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It looks like all of the Premier League clubs that joined the European Super League have decided to withdraw from the competition. Manchester City firstly decided to do it and Chelsea followed them. And now all of them did the same. Then it means that UEFA won this battle at least for now.
This whole 'super league' drama came at the wrong time imo, as i believe it could be a distraction for some of the teams still left in the Uefa champions league competition, for a team like Manchester City hoping to win their first CL this season, they need a pretty high concentration level, and in one way or another, in the past week, the 'super league' has somewhat shifted attention away from the CL. Pep was very critical of the 'super league' idea in his press conference on Tuesday, and I just hope he keeps his team together for their crucial game against PSG; and the situation is also the same for the other teams.

Having said that, for the proposed super league tournament, we can only hope it doesn't resurface again, even if it likely will, but let's be rest assured that the footballing bodies and fans around the world will always say no to such a 'greedy' proposition anytime.

the super league drama coming in right time, cause COVID many team have much debits and 'super league' give to teams much money than UEFA

this is, they tink only at money.. UEFA, teams, and so on

they think we can pay MORE and MORE every year, they think we can BUY MORE and MORE

not me, for me if is funny at right price, i see these teams, if cost so much.. i see other teams, no problem for me
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This whole 'super league' drama came at the wrong time imo, as i believe it could be a distraction for some of the teams still left in the Uefa champions league competition, for a team like Manchester City hoping to win their first CL this season, they need a pretty high concentration level, and in one way or another, in the past week, the 'super league' has somewhat shifted attention away from the CL. Pep was very critical of the 'super league' idea in his press conference on Tuesday, and I just hope he keeps his team together for their crucial game against PSG; and the situation is also the same for the other teams.

This is true, considering that PSG was not included in this super league, it may have been an additional incentive for the game against Manchester City.
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It looks like all of the Premier League clubs that joined the European Super League have decided to withdraw from the competition. Manchester City firstly decided to do it and Chelsea followed them. And now all of them did the same. Then it means that UEFA won this battle at least for now.
This whole 'super league' drama came at the wrong time imo, as i believe it could be a distraction for some of the teams still left in the Uefa champions league competition, for a team like Manchester City hoping to win their first CL this season, they need a pretty high concentration level, and in one way or another, in the past week, the 'super league' has somewhat shifted attention away from the CL. Pep was very critical of the 'super league' idea in his press conference on Tuesday, and I just hope he keeps his team together for their crucial game against PSG; and the situation is also the same for the other teams.

Having said that, for the proposed super league tournament, we can only hope it doesn't resurface again, even if it likely will, but let's be rest assured that the footballing bodies and fans around the world will always say no to such a 'greedy' proposition anytime.

I don't think that this idea will resurface again very soon. But after some years, I believe we will start seeing fundamental changes in football world. I don't think we will continue to see the same competitions forever. There will be new ones and this time people will get used to it.
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It looks like all of the Premier League clubs that joined the European Super League have decided to withdraw from the competition. Manchester City firstly decided to do it and Chelsea followed them. And now all of them did the same. Then it means that UEFA won this battle at least for now.
This whole 'super league' drama came at the wrong time imo, as i believe it could be a distraction for some of the teams still left in the Uefa champions league competition, for a team like Manchester City hoping to win their first CL this season, they need a pretty high concentration level, and in one way or another, in the past week, the 'super league' has somewhat shifted attention away from the CL. Pep was very critical of the 'super league' idea in his press conference on Tuesday, and I just hope he keeps his team together for their crucial game against PSG; and the situation is also the same for the other teams.

Having said that, for the proposed super league tournament, we can only hope it doesn't resurface again, even if it likely will, but let's be rest assured that the footballing bodies and fans around the world will always say no to such a 'greedy' proposition anytime.
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It looks like all of the Premier League clubs that joined the European Super League have decided to withdraw from the competition. Manchester City firstly decided to do it and Chelsea followed them. And now all of them did the same. Then it means that UEFA won this battle at least for now.
In my opinion, this European Super League trial wasn't suitable for football anyway. Popular clubs would get richer.  Football is not an industry! Football is just football. That is why even the fans of football clubs that agreed to join this league rebelled. The mistake was quickly reverted.

I actually see this as a dress rehearsal for what is really going to happen soon.
The big clubs are entering a level, which no longer compensates for being limited to the competitions that currently exist. Therefore, I believe that there will be major changes in this direction soon.

In Europe, football has to start to be "seen" more at the continental level than at the national level. This will soon happen.
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It looks like all of the Premier League clubs that joined the European Super League have decided to withdraw from the competition. Manchester City firstly decided to do it and Chelsea followed them. And now all of them did the same. Then it means that UEFA won this battle at least for now.
In my opinion, this European Super League trial wasn't suitable for football anyway. Popular clubs would get richer.  Football is not an industry! Football is just football. That is why even the fans of football clubs that agreed to join this league rebelled. The mistake was quickly reverted.
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Sadly if it is hold on such period, its attraction will be smaller. It looks like a friendly tournament. I don't remember the names of those tournaments but big clubs already have such in the summer: in the USA, in Italy, etc. Someone knows the name can help.

One of the most famous summer friendly tournaments is the International Champions Cup.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Champions_Cup
Thank you. It is the tournament I am looking for. It has some familiar clubs every summer: Real Madrid, Manchester United, AC Milan, etc. Each tournament has some guests and they will be invited to join according to their performances in the last season. Top clubs in national leagues and have big fan communities are more likely invited to join the tournament.

It is not an official tournament but at some points, it is similar to the Super League.
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The clearest choice here was to disband if they believe it would upset fans and cost them money, that is why they disbanded. I am still in shock, I still think that if Uefa wants to, they can actually make this happen instead, and it would be a lot more legit and would really make a ton of money as well, but I still think that this should happen, why people disliked the idea is beyond me.

In any case, Uefa holds a lot of power, they hold even the world cup power which is watched by over a billion people and brings so much money, even the threat of "anyone who plays in european super league will be disqualified from world cup" would be enough to stop this idea as a whole. This is why I think it is quite obvious that we are in a situation where things are not as easy as it looks from the outside. However I do hope that they would figure out a way to come to table and fix things.
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It looks like all of the Premier League clubs that joined the European Super League have decided to withdraw from the competition. Manchester City firstly decided to do it and Chelsea followed them. And now all of them did the same. Then it means that UEFA won this battle at least for now.

That is true, UEFA won this battle, but I think that sooner or later, it will lose or have to radically change the structure of football in the old continent.

This so-called Super League, was elaborated on the knee. But, it will certainly lead to more clubs from all over Europe, starting to think about doing something, that is viable for everyone and profitable, without losing competitiveness.

Of course, it will not be now that this will happen. But I believe that in a few years' time, big changes will emerge. This was just a sign.

I think in the same way with you. I must admit that I wasn't expecting such thing to happen now and it was so sudden that these clubs founded the tournament. But they stepped back from it for some reasons. But this must definitely be a sign of a big change which will take place in the future.
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Sadly if it is hold on such period, its attraction will be smaller. It looks like a friendly tournament. I don't remember the names of those tournaments but big clubs already have such in the summer: in the USA, in Italy, etc. Someone knows the name can help.

One of the most famous summer friendly tournaments is the International Champions Cup.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Champions_Cup
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It looks like all of the Premier League clubs that joined the European Super League have decided to withdraw from the competition. Manchester City firstly decided to do it and Chelsea followed them. And now all of them did the same. Then it means that UEFA won this battle at least for now.
This league will never happen officially together with UEFA Champions League or Europa League. The Super League can be hold in summer that is the period for training, etc. when players and clubs are free from national leagues, UEFA Champions League, Europa League and international tournaments (Euro, World Cup, Coppa America, etc.).

Sadly if it is hold on such period, its attraction will be smaller. It looks like a friendly tournament. I don't remember the names of those tournaments but big clubs already have such in the summer: in the USA, in Italy, etc. Someone knows the name can help.
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They probably prepare all of these for long ago. The official annoucement is just to see how the UEFA reacts. They are all billionaries and they must have calculated all of the move in order to proceed the league. Let see how the big boys going to do with such retaliation. On the other hands, UEFA can not ban all of the big teams beacuse they have most fans around the world. Banning only cause bad results not just for UEFA but also to the whole soccer community
I never trust the FIFA community because all of them at the council board of directors knows every moves they have taken to secure this new league, they might have calculated and watched how the fans will react towards it, if 80% of fans are for their new league implementation, then the UEFA champion league will be fading away gradually. They have captured the heart of the fans to the extent that they keep getting wealthy everyday. It's just a political play these dudes are displacing.
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It looks like all of the Premier League clubs that joined the European Super League have decided to withdraw from the competition. Manchester City firstly decided to do it and Chelsea followed them. And now all of them did the same. Then it means that UEFA won this battle at least for now.

That is true, UEFA won this battle, but I think that sooner or later, it will lose or have to radically change the structure of football in the old continent.

This so-called Super League, was elaborated on the knee. But, it will certainly lead to more clubs from all over Europe, starting to think about doing something, that is viable for everyone and profitable, without losing competitiveness.

Of course, it will not be now that this will happen. But I believe that in a few years' time, big changes will emerge. This was just a sign.
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It looks like all of the Premier League clubs that joined the European Super League have decided to withdraw from the competition. Manchester City firstly decided to do it and Chelsea followed them. And now all of them did the same. Then it means that UEFA won this battle at least for now.
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This whole European super League is utter crap of the worst sort!
They will end up playing in their golden league while the rest of the world will keep on playing for peanuts. This is basically the same as cornering the market or maintaining a huge monopoly over the only revenue streams that give blood to football teams.
This is all very sad.

The whole purpose of the super league is to give the founding clubs more pocket money. Even JPMorgan is bankrolling 5billion GBP total into the teams.

Apparently all this was done without consulting the coaches and players first, and now they're the ones who are getting the flak from fans Sad

And to be honest, what kind of Super league has Arsenal playing while finishing mid-table?  Huh

But Real president Perez said that if players will be banned from playing in World Cup, they will make their own World Cup.

LOL!!  Grin Then it would be a World Cup just for La Liga teams.

I second your thought and I sincerely hope this superleague talks will end bad. Supporters should finally understand that they are like mcdonald's cows: only good to produce some meat to be sold on the market. If supporters realize this and, for a moment, forget to support their teams...this whole superleague bubble will deflate.
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The clubs themselves, having one more competition in their calendar, will have more games to play and this may already harm the teams.

Of course, they can be penalized, for example for not being accepted in the next edition of the Champions League. But then, did the Champions League have as many recipes as it does now? I doubt.

So now they talk about penalties, but then they won't do it, because they themselves would be more affected.

We have to be realistic, the fans would still want to see the games of these big clubs, no matter what competition they are in.
We are talking about clubs that generate almost the same revenue in private matches, as in official matches.
I believe there is a chance that regular teams will keep their teams like normal, but Uefa may disbar every team that joins the super league. So, they will have their regular leagues, and they will also have the european league, but nothing in champions league. That seems to be the worst thing that could happen if you ask me, I do not think that anything worse would happen.

However I also consider the fact that what happens if they are in their league, in their national cups, in the european league, and in champions league all at the same time.

Isn't that just insane amount of games? That would make teams tired a lot, that will be like 3 games a week for 40 weeks, that is just way too much, normally high level teams play at least 60 games a year when they go far, and that is already way too much, to bring it to another league and making it maybe who knows 100 games? We don't know how many games but it is going to be very difficult.
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The official annoucement is just to see how the UEFA reacts. They are all billionaries and they must have calculated all of the move in order to proceed the league. Let see how the big boys going to do with such retaliation.
It's a stupid move. Why would they even take the chance of getting expelled from the league that they are still competing? I don't see any logic there.

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This supposed penalty, in my view, was more to frighten.
Poor bluff.

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But in reality, this history of the Super League, had as main objective, to compel UEFA to think better about the rules that it is thinking to implement in the Champions League.
They have every right to disagree but they don't have to do it at a time like this. Fans miss the game and these teams are taking the game like a hostage.
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