This whole European super League is utter crap of the worst sort!
They will end up playing in their golden league while the rest of the world will keep on playing for peanuts. This is basically the same as cornering the market or maintaining a huge monopoly over the only revenue streams that give blood to football teams.
This is all very sad.
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Welp, this year's CL may be cut short. 
https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/chelsea-fc-manchester-city-real-madrid-champions-league-european-super-league-b930535.html
Basically UEFA went apeshit and is threatening to permanently ban Chelsea, Man City and Real from UEFA competitions for forming a "European Super League".
And this competition won't be fun if PSG automatically wins.
https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/chelsea-fc-manchester-city-real-madrid-champions-league-european-super-league-b930535.html
Basically UEFA went apeshit and is threatening to permanently ban Chelsea, Man City and Real from UEFA competitions for forming a "European Super League".
And this competition won't be fun if PSG automatically wins.
But this is the fault of FIFA and UEFA. This idea of a super league has been talked about for a long time, and UEFA does nothing to change things.
It is only a pity that for smaller countries or clubs with less financial power, they are unable to "escape" from UEFA.
Of course, initially it will not be well accepted.
But at the end of the day, the football market is evolving to different levels, which cannot be the same as it was 50 years ago.
The most certain thing is that in a short time, the national championships become a kind of second competition for many clubs, in many countries.
Aleksander Ceferin went crazy!?
I've been reading this notice quoted and others, his desire is to prevent his players from playing even in the world cup.
Have you ever thought about a world cup without Lionel Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo, Kevin De Bruyne, Gabriel Jesus, Alisson, Mohamed Salah, Sadio Mané and Luis Suárez, and several other players of that level? An absurd !!!!
But honestly, this Super League is a stupidity that has the sole purpose of filling your own pockets, or does anyone disagree?
This statement from Ceferin is totally understandable. They how to protect UEFA somehow and strict decisions will be needed.I've been reading this notice quoted and others, his desire is to prevent his players from playing even in the world cup.
Have you ever thought about a world cup without Lionel Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo, Kevin De Bruyne, Gabriel Jesus, Alisson, Mohamed Salah, Sadio Mané and Luis Suárez, and several other players of that level? An absurd !!!!
But honestly, this Super League is a stupidity that has the sole purpose of filling your own pockets, or does anyone disagree?
But Real president Perez said that if players will be banned from playing in World Cup, they will make their own World Cup.
But I think it's possible that World Cup will turn into similar joke like Olympic football tournament.
One thing is certain that PSG-City will be a very tough draw. As I said before, I see City being the favourite in this. But there is no big difference between both teams. Both of them are very strong and the number one contenders for the title. Whichever team advance, they will become the champions also I think.
The last match between PSG vs Manchester City 3 dec 2008 Manchester City 0-0 PSG
6 apr 2016 PSG 2-2 Manchester City
12 apr 2016 Manchester City 1-0 PSG
PSG haven't won at all in a match, their best result against PSG is a draw. But that was then, PSG is now different. They have a lot of star players. You're right there will be an interesting match going on. But I prefer PSG to win in the first leg.
Source: https://www.fctables.com/h2h/manchester-city/paris-saint-germain/
and in the Champions League this season, Man City have never fallen or been beaten with a record of 9 wins and 1 draw in 10 games, and even though I side with Man City in the semifinals later. But PSG is not an easy opponent for Man City and is likely to end in a draw in the first leg.
Welp, this year's CL may be cut short.
https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/chelsea-fc-manchester-city-real-madrid-champions-league-european-super-league-b930535.html
Basically UEFA went apeshit and is threatening to permanently ban Chelsea, Man City and Real from UEFA competitions for forming a "European Super League".
And this competition won't be fun if PSG automatically wins.
What a pain these UEFA heads and competing teams are. They could have done this after the finals.https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/chelsea-fc-manchester-city-real-madrid-champions-league-european-super-league-b930535.html
Basically UEFA went apeshit and is threatening to permanently ban Chelsea, Man City and Real from UEFA competitions for forming a "European Super League".
And this competition won't be fun if PSG automatically wins.
Cutting it short and declare PSG as the winner by default is not a good idea and I don't think they will do that. Maybe UEFA will arrange a special competition for the quarter-finalists to replace the banned teams.
Welp, this year's CL may be cut short.
https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/chelsea-fc-manchester-city-real-madrid-champions-league-european-super-league-b930535.html
Basically UEFA went apeshit and is threatening to permanently ban Chelsea, Man City and Real from UEFA competitions for forming a "European Super League".
And this competition won't be fun if PSG automatically wins.
https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/chelsea-fc-manchester-city-real-madrid-champions-league-european-super-league-b930535.html
Basically UEFA went apeshit and is threatening to permanently ban Chelsea, Man City and Real from UEFA competitions for forming a "European Super League".
And this competition won't be fun if PSG automatically wins.
Aleksander Ceferin went crazy!?
I've been reading this notice quoted and others, his desire is to prevent his players from playing even in the world cup.
Have you ever thought about a world cup without Lionel Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo, Kevin De Bruyne, Gabriel Jesus, Alisson, Mohamed Salah, Sadio Mané and Luis Suárez, and several other players of that level? An absurd !!!!
But honestly, this Super League is a stupidity that has the sole purpose of filling your own pockets, or does anyone disagree?
And this competition won't be fun if PSG automatically wins.
heh! the only way PSG could ever win a CL is if no one's else is competing for it lol jokes aside, CL won't be fun either with UEFA's new format:"UEFA confirm bold plans to revamp the Champions League from the 2024-25 season with NO group stage, an increase to 36 teams and 100 EXTRA games"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-9487549/UEFA-confirm-plans-revamp-Champions-League-2024-25-season.html
Official statement: https://www.uefa.com/insideuefa/mediaservices/mediareleases/news/0268-1213f7aa85bb-d56154ff8fe8-1000--new-uefa-club-competition-formats-from-2024-25/
what an entertaining shitshow...me right now:
Welp, this year's CL may be cut short.
https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/chelsea-fc-manchester-city-real-madrid-champions-league-european-super-league-b930535.html
Basically UEFA went apeshit and is threatening to permanently ban Chelsea, Man City and Real from UEFA competitions for forming a "European Super League".
And this competition won't be fun if PSG automatically wins.
https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/chelsea-fc-manchester-city-real-madrid-champions-league-european-super-league-b930535.html
Basically UEFA went apeshit and is threatening to permanently ban Chelsea, Man City and Real from UEFA competitions for forming a "European Super League".
And this competition won't be fun if PSG automatically wins.
I am sure that the latest failures of the team in The Premier League and yesterday's cup match against Chelsea are precisely the consequences of his experiments.
By 'latest failures', I presume you mean losses to Leeds united and in the Fa cup semi-final, imo, Guardiola's tinkering didn't have anything to do with those setbacks, the thing is, City were in all competitions (before they lost to Chelsea), so with a UCL QF second leg against Dortmund in sight, Pep had to rest important players for the match against Leeds, and thus they lost, as for the game against Chelsea few days back, he also had to make over 7 changes from the team that won Dortmund in mid-week; all of that is anything but Pep's fault, he's looking for a way to keep his very important players fit and still try to win all the games possible.Having said that, it's going to be pretty straightforward against PSG, Pep has found his perfect team and strategy with City, the only bad side of the match from City's perspective is that Kevin De Bruyne could likely miss the game after he picked up an injury against Chelsea.
Real Madrid played three tough matches in a row with the same squad. Manchester City could also play the main players. If only with Chelsea they could put the best and not change. At stake was reaching the cup final. I think it would not be necessary to save the players in that case. All the more so if the opponent is Chelsea. And why take care of the players if they advanced to the next round in the Champions League and in the championship there is a 10-point lead from the second place.
By 'latest failures', I presume you mean losses to Leeds united and in the Fa cup semi-final, imo, Guardiola's tinkering didn't have anything to do with those setbacks, the thing is, City were in all competitions (before they lost to Chelsea), so with a UCL QF second leg against Dortmund in sight, Pep had to rest important players for the match against Leeds, and thus they lost, as for the game against Chelsea few days back, he also had to make over 7 changes from the team that won Dortmund in mid-week; all of that is anything but Pep's fault, he's looking for a way to keep his very important players fit and still try to win all the games possible.
Having said that, it's going to be pretty straightforward against PSG, Pep has found his perfect team and strategy with City, the only bad side of the match from City's perspective is that Kevin De Bruyne could likely miss the game after he picked up an injury against Chelsea.
Having said that, it's going to be pretty straightforward against PSG, Pep has found his perfect team and strategy with City, the only bad side of the match from City's perspective is that Kevin De Bruyne could likely miss the game after he picked up an injury against Chelsea.
I fully agree.
When playing on all fronts, gradually you have to make choices, to manage the squad in the best way.
The focus is clearly on UCL and winning the domestic championship. The championship is well underway, just keep pace. Then UCL is to give everything.
If Kevin De Bruyne is a casualty for the PSG game, he will have to work with the team in another way.
I am sure that the latest failures of the team in The Premier League and yesterday's cup match against Chelsea are precisely the consequences of his experiments.
By 'latest failures', I presume you mean losses to Leeds united and in the Fa cup semi-final, imo, Guardiola's tinkering didn't have anything to do with those setbacks, the thing is, City were in all competitions (before they lost to Chelsea), so with a UCL QF second leg against Dortmund in sight, Pep had to rest important players for the match against Leeds, and thus they lost, as for the game against Chelsea few days back, he also had to make over 7 changes from the team that won Dortmund in mid-week; all of that is anything but Pep's fault, he's looking for a way to keep his very important players fit and still try to win all the games possible.Having said that, it's going to be pretty straightforward against PSG, Pep has found his perfect team and strategy with City, the only bad side of the match from City's perspective is that Kevin De Bruyne could likely miss the game after he picked up an injury against Chelsea.
One thing is certain that PSG-City will be a very tough draw. As I said before, I see City being the favourite in this. But there is no big difference between both teams. Both of them are very strong and the number one contenders for the title. Whichever team advance, they will become the champions also I think.
The last match between PSG vs Manchester City 3 dec 2008 Manchester City 0-0 PSG
6 apr 2016 PSG 2-2 Manchester City
12 apr 2016 Manchester City 1-0 PSG
PSG haven't won at all in a match, their best result against PSG is a draw. But that was then, PSG is now different. They have a lot of star players. You're right there will be an interesting match going on. But I prefer PSG to win in the first leg.
Source: https://www.fctables.com/h2h/manchester-city/paris-saint-germain/
After PSG was able to beat Bayern, I became sympathetic to the club! It's not for nothing that they played in last year's finals and managed to reach the semifinals this year... I will bet on the victory of PSG and I do not see a strong opponent in Man City...
And also in my opinion Real Madrid and Zidane deserve the championship!
And also in my opinion Real Madrid and Zidane deserve the championship!
One thing is certain that PSG-City will be a very tough draw. As I said before, I see City being the favourite in this. But there is no big difference between both teams. Both of them are very strong and the number one contenders for the title. Whichever team advance, they will become the champions also I think.
After PSG was able to beat Bayern, I became sympathetic to the club! It's not for nothing that they played in last year's finals and managed to reach the semifinals this year... I will bet on the victory of PSG and I do not see a strong opponent in Man City...
And also in my opinion Real Madrid and Zidane deserve the championship!
And also in my opinion Real Madrid and Zidane deserve the championship!
Real Madrid has experience in the Champions League, but unfortunately, soon there will be no players left to enter the field. Mendy was injured. Today, there were only 16 players to play with Getafe. Everyone else is injured. The rest, especially Cross and Modrid, are accumulating tired and this can cause injury. And ahead of the matches every 3-4 days.
But in a way this is a problem that ends up affecting all the teams in the competition.
Chelsea must continue to work to maintain fifth place, if they do not risk not going to the European competitions in the next season.
PSG may not be concerned about winning their league, but Monaco are trying to reach second place. So, you have to keep a good pace so you don't lose your place and don't go to the Champions next season.
Real Madrid are in second, very close to the first and with Barcelona just behind. So, you have to keep the pace, since it can be easily overtaken by opponents.
City, on the other hand, has about 10 points ahead (with one more game), and for that reason it has practically the championship won. Just do a balanced management.
Of the four finalists, City has the best conditions to be fully focused on the Champions League.
Manchester City has one big problem that can prevent them from winning. It's Guardiola. He's a good coach, but always during important matches he starts to think up something and eventually confuses the team. This often affects the results of the game. I am sure that the latest failures of the team in The Premier League and yesterday's cup match against Chelsea are precisely the consequences of his experiments.
You could be right maybe but I assume he won't be doing any experiments against PSG in the semi finals.
He will have their main lineup and tactic prepared for both games. And their chance of advancing to the final is higher than PSG, I think. Real Madrid has experience in the Champions League, but unfortunately, soon there will be no players left to enter the field. Mendy was injured. Today, there were only 16 players to play with Getafe. Everyone else is injured. The rest, especially Cross and Modrid, are accumulating tired and this can cause injury. And ahead of the matches every 3-4 days.
But in a way this is a problem that ends up affecting all the teams in the competition.
Chelsea must continue to work to maintain fifth place, if they do not risk not going to the European competitions in the next season.
PSG may not be concerned about winning their league, but Monaco are trying to reach second place. So, you have to keep a good pace so you don't lose your place and don't go to the Champions next season.
Real Madrid are in second, very close to the first and with Barcelona just behind. So, you have to keep the pace, since it can be easily overtaken by opponents.
City, on the other hand, has about 10 points ahead (with one more game), and for that reason it has practically the championship won. Just do a balanced management.
Of the four finalists, City has the best conditions to be fully focused on the Champions League.
Manchester City has one big problem that can prevent them from winning. It's Guardiola. He's a good coach, but always during important matches he starts to think up something and eventually confuses the team. This often affects the results of the game. I am sure that the latest failures of the team in The Premier League and yesterday's cup match against Chelsea are precisely the consequences of his experiments.
So what now? Chelsea just beat Manchester City in the FA Cup. In my opinion that is quite huge. Chelsea plays so well in the defense right now, one goal is enough for them to bring it home. I agree they are no favorite for the Champions League title, but....
... nothing is impossible!
... nothing is impossible!
The FA Cup should be one of the most difficult competitions to assess the true performance of a team.
Every year, small teams beat big teams in that competition.
For example, this season Southampton won Arsenal 1-0 in the cup, three days later they lost to the league with Arsenal 1-3.
The FA Cup is not the ideal test for making predictions.
I agree with it. We see many surprising results here in Fa Cup. Besides, City rotated the squad a little in this game. But I'm sure about something that this nice win has improved their morale.
So what now? Chelsea just beat Manchester City in the FA Cup. In my opinion that is quite huge. Chelsea plays so well in the defense right now, one goal is enough for them to bring it home. I agree they are no favorite for the Champions League title, but....
... nothing is impossible!
The FA Cup should be one of the most difficult competitions to assess the true performance of a team.... nothing is impossible!
Every year, small teams beat big teams in that competition.
For example, this season Southampton won Arsenal 1-0 in the cup, three days later they lost to the league with Arsenal 1-3.
The FA Cup is not the ideal test for making predictions.
I also think the results of the FA Cup are usually very surprising, because there are so many incidents of big teams being defeated by small teams.
Because usually in the FA Cup the players who are deployed are not the main players, from here we can conclude that for most of the big teams
the FA Cup is not a top priority. So the results of the FA Cup cannot be used as a reference for the appearance of the team, meaning that
Chelsea managed to beat Manchester City in the FA Cup cannot be used as a benchmark. Since the Champions League is a competition that has
a lot of pressure, because a big team if it hasn't won the Champions League cannot be called a best team. I'm not sure Chelsea can beat Manchester
City if they meet in the Champions League competition.
So what now? Chelsea just beat Manchester City in the FA Cup. In my opinion that is quite huge. Chelsea plays so well in the defense right now, one goal is enough for them to bring it home. I agree they are no favorite for the Champions League title, but....
... nothing is impossible!
... nothing is impossible!
The FA Cup should be one of the most difficult competitions to assess the true performance of a team.
Every year, small teams beat big teams in that competition.
For example, this season Southampton won Arsenal 1-0 in the cup, three days later they lost to the league with Arsenal 1-3.
The FA Cup is not the ideal test for making predictions.
It could be exactly this public perception that Chelsea has no chance which in the end gives them the edge. They are very strong defensively, could definitely keep it 0:0 till late game and then score the lucky punch.
You all remember Bayern Chelsea in the final in Germany? 17:1 corners, but who won it in the end? One lucky punch Drogba, and in the penalty shootout:
Chelsea!
Very possible if you ask me.
Chelsea were a much stronger team back then, they had elite players all over the pitch. Now not so much in my opinion. I think the champion will come from the other semi final, Man City or PSG.
So what now? Chelsea just beat Manchester City in the FA Cup. In my opinion that is quite huge. Chelsea plays so well in the defense right now, one goal is enough for them to bring it home. I agree they are no favorite for the Champions League title, but....
... nothing is impossible!
Exactly! Nothing is impossible in football. Maybe so many people will see them as having the least chance to win the Champions League title. But they can do a great job and surprise everyone.
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