Everything goes to the fact that in the next round only Atletico Madrid will represent Spain. Barcelona and Sevilla lost. Real Madrid has half of the team injured. And if one more player is injured today, there is no one to replace.
Honestly I think they will all get kicked from CL one by one. Barca is 99% out, Sevilla has a week chance to pass, Real Madrid and ATM have a chance to pass this round but for how long? They couldn't survive against PSG or City or even Bayern tho.. There is a big difference of level. Barca is doing quite good right now and was humiliated by PSG although lacking key players.. 
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Barcelona have loss opportunity because playing as home they loss with bigger score and need to make more than 5 goals on second leg, I think is not easy for Barcelona because impossible mission if can win from PSG above 5 goal, how ever PSG will make their supporter happy can defeat Barcelona and have dream to final again.
Yes, I think it is a very tough mission. Moreover, in the second leg, it is likely that Neymar will return to play, and this certainly will make it more difficult for Barcelona, because to get through to the quarter-final they had to score 4 goals without a reply or at least can win with a score of 5-2 and so on.
Everything goes to the fact that in the next round only Atletico Madrid will represent Spain. Barcelona and Sevilla lost. Real Madrid has half of the team injured. And if one more player is injured today, there is no one to replace.
It was painful to watch Barcelona lose but that Dortmund win cheered my day. Haaland and Mbappe's performances were spectacular. I wonder where will Haaland go next season, clearly Dortmund can't hold him more. Maybe Real Madrid make a move for him, they need a good striker.
I didn't get to watch the match between Barcelona and PSG, but when I saw the results it really surprised me. What's wrong with Barcelona? how come they were humiliated by PSG which in that match were the guests. Did they play very badly in that match?
Barcelona were literally helpless against PSG. Even Messi couldn't do anything in such situation. Mbappe made a hat-trick and had an awesome game for sure. I was also surprised by the huge score. Now, I'm more confident that Messi will certainly leave the team this summer.
It was painful to watch Barcelona lose but that Dortmund win cheered my day. Haaland and Mbappe's performances were spectacular. I wonder where will Haaland go next season, clearly Dortmund can't hold him more. Maybe Real Madrid make a move for him, they need a good striker.
I didn't get to watch the match between Barcelona and PSG, but when I saw the results it really surprised me. What's wrong with Barcelona? how come they were humiliated by PSG which in that match were the guests. Did they play very badly in that match?
Barcelona were literally helpless against PSG. Even Messi couldn't do anything in such situation. Mbappe made a hat-trick and had an awesome game for sure. I was also surprised by the huge score. Now, I'm more confident that Messi will certainly leave the team this summer.
I didn't get to watch the match between Barcelona and PSG, but when I saw the results it really surprised me. What's wrong with Barcelona? how come they were humiliated by PSG which in that match were the guests. Did they play very badly in that match?
PSG was a better team from minute 0 till the end. Messi time is over, he has no energy to play in this team anymore. If Messi has not a good match, there is no other player who can do anything for the team. Dembele or Griezman are not good enough to boost the team to the victory. I am talking about these matches that they play versus top teams, I am not talking about normal teams like Getafe, Valladolid, Cadiz, etc (with due repect for these teams) but it is always the same with barcelona, a good European team meets them on Champions League and this is the result. You can check what happened the previuos years, it was exactly the same.
It was painful to watch Barcelona lose but that Dortmund win cheered my day. Haaland and Mbappe's performances were spectacular. I wonder where will Haaland go next season, clearly Dortmund can't hold him more. Maybe Real Madrid make a move for him, they need a good striker.
I didn't get to watch the match between Barcelona and PSG, but when I saw the results it really surprised me. What's wrong with Barcelona? how come they were humiliated by PSG which in that match were the guests. Did they play very badly in that match?
Coach or not, a team like Juventus cannot find itself in a situation like this. Everyone else has been facing covid-19 so that does not justify their lack of performance. I think it is more about the idea of football that Pirlo is trying to share with the team: and that simply is not working.
Juve is probably over and done this year.
Juve is probably over and done this year.
In my opinion, Juventus are already over in Serie A and I don't give them a chance for the championship. For the CL, I don't really know now. If Chiesa didn't score and the match against Porto ended 2-0, their job would be very hard. But with a 2-1 score, I believe they will eliminate Porto. But after that, I wonder how far they will be able to go.
Coach or not, a team like Juventus cannot find itself in a situation like this. Everyone else has been facing covid-19 so that does not justify their lack of performance. I think it is more about the idea of football that Pirlo is trying to share with the team: and that simply is not working.
Juve is probably over and done this year.
Juve is probably over and done this year.
performance .. (bad) physical performance can actually do a lot of damage, but in this case we would have to blame the "athletic trainer"
but they're hardly wrong at those levels, it's an exact science!
I really liked Zeman with his theories, he was an excellent athletic trainer in my opinion (a bit too aggressive coach)
but his "game" is funny to see
It was painful to watch Barcelona lose but that Dortmund win cheered my day. Haaland and Mbappe's performances were spectacular. I wonder where will Haaland go next season, clearly Dortmund can't hold him more. Maybe Real Madrid make a move for him, they need a good striker.
Porto win wasn't a surprise for me, I'm also following their Primeira Liga games, they are playing good at home. That's a good leverage for first leg even though they conceded a goal. I'm sure they won't play full defensive in Italy. There's still 3 weeks though.
Porto win wasn't a surprise for me, I'm also following their Primeira Liga games, they are playing good at home. That's a good leverage for first leg even though they conceded a goal. I'm sure they won't play full defensive in Italy. There's still 3 weeks though.
ATM already lost points against levante this week, which they should have won easily but they managed to get a draw at least so it wasn't zero points. I would say there is a very very low chance that ATM would win champions league, so they could just keep focusing on la liga because that would be the best thing they can do this season, giving it all in CL would make it very difficult for them.
In Champions League, everything can happen. Do you recall the season when Porto and AS Monaco are two clubs in the Champions League finale?I agree ATM is not the strongest team in Champions League that belong to Bayern Munich and PSG. Athough this fact, they have a good quality to make a surprise and win this league.
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Could they beat Chelsea? Absolutely, they will probably win as well, it should be not that difficult for them, but at the same time how further could they get?
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Eventually they will lose somewhere and other big teams will move on. Real Madrid, PSG, Bayern, City, Liverpool these are all amazing teams to try and beat, of course they could face a weaker opponent maybe but eventually ATM will face someone that is much better than them, so they should instead just go for La Liga and get away from CL as quickly as possible to not have any fatigue issues.
Manchester City has same position in Premier League compares with ATM's position in La Liga. However, I don't have much belief in Manchester City and Pep in Champions League. In some important matches, Pep with his strange approach destroyed Manchester City many times. He tries to create something new and surprise to opponents. But at the same time, he as a coach makes surprise to his players as well. 
Lots of interesting matches coming up! I count on Atletico to win against Chelsea... Bookmakers do not pick a clear winner and the odds for both teams to win are quite high! In my opinion Atletico looks stronger!
I would bet the opposite. Chelsea have had a very good run after changing the coach and they have improved from game to game so far. The odds speak against Chelsea and that's exactly what's interesting about placing a small bet on a Chelsea win.
Chelsea are much better with Tuchel but this is a quite hard away game for them against a beast like Atletico. But it could be a good chance for Chelsea that the match will be in a neutral location. If Chelsea somehow manage to get a nice result there, they can have a big advantage in Stamford Bridge. I think both games of the draw will be very delightful.
Dunno about how Simeone and ATM staff are thinking right now but they aren't a favourite team in CL and they know that while in the other hand they are a major candidate for La Liga this season. ATM will try to advance for sure but will they show their maximum strength and play with their best team? I cannot count on them to defeat Chelsea unless I see the squad.
I think they want to win both La Liga and Champions League and at least now they can focus on Champions League. In La Liga, they have good points ahead of Real Madrid and Barcelona. If they are careless and lose more points in La Liga, Barcelona can move closer to A Madrid as they almost are out of Champions League with the big defeat against PSG yesterday.Could they beat Chelsea? Absolutely, they will probably win as well, it should be not that difficult for them, but at the same time how further could they get?
Eventually they will lose somewhere and other big teams will move on. Real Madrid, PSG, Bayern, City, Liverpool these are all amazing teams to try and beat, of course they could face a weaker opponent maybe but eventually ATM will face someone that is much better than them, so they should instead just go for La Liga and get away from CL as quickly as possible to not have any fatigue issues.
Coach or not, a team like Juventus cannot find itself in a situation like this. Everyone else has been facing covid-19 so that does not justify their lack of performance. I think it is more about the idea of football that Pirlo is trying to share with the team: and that simply is not working.
Juve is probably over and done this year.
Juve is probably over and done this year.
I don't believe that Pirlo is responsible for Betancur's mistake, neither his idea for Juve is far from being adopted fully from the players. Pirlo is a new coach and for sure he will need time and full support from the club. Unless the administration wants him for a specific time and they wait to sign another more experienced manager than him.
Coach or not, a team like Juventus cannot find itself in a situation like this. Everyone else has been facing covid-19 so that does not justify their lack of performance. I think it is more about the idea of football that Pirlo is trying to share with the team: and that simply is not working.
Juve is probably over and done this year.
Juve is probably over and done this year.
Like I said so many times before I will say it again. Pirlo is not a good coach and probably never be. Why ? because he only trained 20 days on a team that had under23 players and after those 20 days he straight jumped into managing Juventus that has a "heavy" bench that needs a good strong coach who can input his style. Anyway, Juventus has chances just because they have the necessary players in order to win at 2 goals but it will be hard...
Halland , looks like a young zlatan with a mixed of henry and I love it! His skills are amazing!
Halland , looks like a young zlatan with a mixed of henry and I love it! His skills are amazing!
Do you really think with another coach they will get another result?
Is not a coach problem imho but a squad team. Since the start of the season they are lacking in reports.
Since the start of the season they got 4-5 key players out for Covid or Injuried.
DeLigt skipped 3 months.
Chiellini skipped 3 months.
AlexSandro Skipped 3 months.
Arthur skipped 3 months.
Cuadrado skipped 2 months.
Dybala skipped 4 months.
Morata skipped 1 month, yesterday he played 20 minutes and after the game he fainted.
Ronaldo skipped 1 month.
Ramsey skipped 2 months.
Bonucci skipped 1 month.
Do you really think that with Sarri or even Guardiola/Klopp they could manage so many more points?
Lots of interesting matches coming up! I count on Atletico to win against Chelsea... Bookmakers do not pick a clear winner and the odds for both teams to win are quite high! In my opinion Atletico looks stronger!
I would bet the opposite. Chelsea have had a very good run after changing the coach and they have improved from game to game so far. The odds speak against Chelsea and that's exactly what's interesting about placing a small bet on a Chelsea win.
I was surprised that dortmund managed to win against sevilla given the fact that the bvb was performing so bad in the last weeks.
Even though it started as i feared with the early lead of sevilla dortmund managed to equalize soon and even took the lead. Haarland is just a weapon in the offensive.
I still think though that sevilla still has a good chance to move on because the bvb is just not stable.
Even though it started as i feared with the early lead of sevilla dortmund managed to equalize soon and even took the lead. Haarland is just a weapon in the offensive.
I still think though that sevilla still has a good chance to move on because the bvb is just not stable.
Agreed with you it is a pleasant surprise finally they managed to win this match luckily I picked over 2.5 goals for that match but FC Porto got succeed to give a shocking result by beating Juventus. I feel I had my day yesterday and won my both bets there. So let's see how today will go there are a lot of interesting matches going to play.
Truth be told, I expected a draw for this match. I was seeing Dortmund closer to advancing to the next round but I thought that Sevilla wouldn't lose in the first match. Now, Dortmund's job will be even easier in their stadium. I think this win can help Dortmund start having a better performance in the Bundesliga too.
I was surprised that dortmund managed to win against sevilla given the fact that the bvb was performing so bad in the last weeks.
Even though it started as i feared with the early lead of sevilla dortmund managed to equalize soon and even took the lead. Haarland is just a weapon in the offensive.
I still think though that sevilla still has a good chance to move on because the bvb is just not stable.
Even though it started as i feared with the early lead of sevilla dortmund managed to equalize soon and even took the lead. Haarland is just a weapon in the offensive.
I still think though that sevilla still has a good chance to move on because the bvb is just not stable.
Agreed with you it is a pleasant surprise finally they managed to win this match luckily I picked over 2.5 goals for that match but FC Porto got succeed to give a shocking result by beating Juventus. I feel I had my day yesterday and won my both bets there. So let's see how today will go there are a lot of interesting matches going to play.
Schacka,Schacka 
on tuesday evening Kylian Mbappé played a great game and beat the great barcelona almost by himself.
yesterday then the great performance of blond Erling Haaland from borussia dortmund.
after a few weak games, the boys from dortmund won in spain and defeated sevilla with 3:2.
i wouldn't have thought that after dortmund's last few games. in my opinion, that's a bit of a surprise.
on tuesday evening Kylian Mbappé played a great game and beat the great barcelona almost by himself. yesterday then the great performance of blond Erling Haaland from borussia dortmund.
after a few weak games, the boys from dortmund won in spain and defeated sevilla with 3:2.
i wouldn't have thought that after dortmund's last few games. in my opinion, that's a bit of a surprise.
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