UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread - page 842.

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Remember, UEFA has a plan B in case more games will have problems like postponing for Covid restriction or something like that
Plan B consists of a final 16 or 8 depending on when and if they will have problems, played in Portugal or Italy like they did the last year.

I don't think we are yet in this situation but there is this possibility.

A handball cup has been hold on Egypt lately with countries coming from different parts of the world so the possibility you mentioned could be used as the last alternative. Until now I think that the game will took place as scheduled but in a different location.

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Remember, UEFA has a plan B in case more games will have problems like postponing for Covid restriction or something like that
Plan B consists of a final 16 or 8 depending on when and if they will have problems, played in Portugal or Italy like they did the last year.

I don't think we are yet in this situation but there is this possibility.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on February 05, 2021, 04:14:36 AM

The BBC has published the official UEFA position on the possibility of postponing the match between Liverpool and Leipzig.

We must support this decision! We are not in a good situation because of the fast spread of Covid-19. To ensure the security of all players and club management, postponing the match may be the best solution for now. There are many things to be considered on pandemic days, we cannot force to hold the match if it will be too risky for all parties and those players of the two clubs (both players of Liverpool and Leipzig).

A very strange position from UEFA. I don't quite understand why they didn't accept it at the beginning of the season. In the fall, almost the entire main team Shakhtar Donetsk was infected with coronavirus and a lot of team staff too. But the matches were not postponed.

I would interpret the statement of UEFA a little differently, that the organization reserves the right to postpone the match, but not necessarily that this will happen in the case of a match between Liverpool and Leipzig. Just in case, UEFA leaves itself room for maneuver, but in this case, it seems that we are not talking about the COVID-19 players of the teams, but about the unwillingness of the German authorities to lift the ban for Liverpool and allow them to enter the country.

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Quote from: babo on February 05, 2021, 09:27:29 AM

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is true, you said a sad truth... but
would it be better not to see matches? you/we have to compromise
sacrifices must be made in covid time

rather than not seeing anything, better something like this (given the period) and we'll do it again next year

I have no problem with those one-leg clashes which UEFA introduced for the reminder of 2019/2020 UCL campaign. Just like everyone else, I'm fine with the decision if UEFA decides to still follow a similar schedule. I was only trying to point out the fact that since it's a one-way ticket with just one chance to make the cut, we won't have to look forward to. Teams don't have a chance to fight back since there are no second-legs to be played.

I'm still interested to enjoy the reminder of the Champions League without covid-19 interruptions even if it has to be one-leg clashes moving forward Wink

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on February 05, 2021, 01:58:32 PM

Quote from: Daniel91 on February 05, 2021, 04:14:36 AM

The BBC has published the official UEFA position on the possibility of postponing the match between Liverpool and Leipzig.

We must support this decision! We are not in a good situation because of the fast spread of Covid-19. To ensure the security of all players and club management, postponing the match may be the best solution for now. There are many things to be considered on pandemic days, we cannot force to hold the match if it will be too risky for all parties and those players of the two clubs (both players of Liverpool and Leipzig).

A very strange position from UEFA. I don't quite understand why they didn't accept it at the beginning of the season. In the fall, almost the entire main team Shakhtar Donetsk was infected with coronavirus and a lot of team staff too. But the matches were not postponed.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on February 05, 2021, 01:58:32 PM

Quote from: Daniel91 on February 05, 2021, 04:14:36 AM

The BBC has published the official UEFA position on the possibility of postponing the match between Liverpool and Leipzig.

We must support this decision! We are not in a good situation because of the fast spread of Covid-19. To ensure the security of all players and club management, postponing the match may be the best solution for now. There are many things to be considered on pandemic days, we cannot force to hold the match if it will be too risky for all parties and those players of the two clubs (both players of Liverpool and Leipzig).

I agree with you, in a pandemic situation like now we often find games postponed. And that we must support the decision, although sometimes
it is disappointing for the supporters of both teams. If it turns out that the Leipzig vs Liverpool match will be postponed, we must support
the decisions made by the official UEFA.

Indeed, there are a lot of considerations and calculations for holding a football match in a situation like now. Moreover, football matches are
a difficult activity to run a social distance, therefore the spread of the corona virus can very well occur. So the preparations made must be really
good if we want to host the Leipzig vs Liverpool match. Let's wait for the next update on the Leipzig vs Liverpool match.

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There are some reports about possible changes to the Champions League format starting from the 2024/2025 season. UEFA is interested in finding a solution that the European heavyweights will be happy with because the top football teams have been threatening UEFA with creating a European Super League on their own.

These are some of the changes that have been reported:

- The participants list would we extended from 32 to 36 teams.
- The group stage format of 8 groups with 4 teams in each will be changed to a league format.
- Each team will play a guaranteed number of 10 matches during the first stage of the competition compared to 6 matches that is currently the case.
- The TOP 8 would be automatically qualified to the round of 16.
- An X number of other teams will play in some sort of playoff to fill the remaining slots.
- This will result in an increase in played matches during the first stage from 96 to 180, which also means more money for the clubs involved in the competition.

Read more about it below:
https://www.si.com/soccer/2021/02/04/uefa-champions-league-expansion-format-change-plan-proposal
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/feb/04/champions-league-revamp-talks-could-herald-end-of-group-stage

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Quote from: Daniel91 on February 05, 2021, 04:14:36 AM

The BBC has published the official UEFA position on the possibility of postponing the match between Liverpool and Leipzig.

We must support this decision! We are not in a good situation because of the fast spread of Covid-19. To ensure the security of all players and club management, postponing the match may be the best solution for now. There are many things to be considered on pandemic days, we cannot force to hold the match if it will be too risky for all parties and those players of the two clubs (both players of Liverpool and Leipzig).

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hmph..

Sacrificing a leg for the UCL this season makes sense. Thus the players are not too tired due to the busy schedule. As we know, COVID-19 is spreading so fast. This is indeed the only thing that UEFA have to enforce. When the 2nd leg is eliminated, this means reducing activities that can help players stay fit and avoid COVID-19.

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Quote from: nelson4lov on February 05, 2021, 06:39:20 AM

Considering how hard the current Covid-19 keeps biting hard, it's a great idea and a welcomed one at that but not a lot of people would appreciate that. 2019/2020 UCL was just weird with those one-legged matches. If it has always been a one-legged affair, we wouldn't have gotten the chance to watch that glorious come back by Liverpool against Barcelona in 2018/19 campaign. Being a two-legged affair meant there was a second chance to fight for a comeback. Take that out and teams won't get much chances to redeem themselves.

is true, you said a sad truth... but
would it be better not to see matches? you/we have to compromise
sacrifices must be made in covid time

rather than not seeing anything, better something like this (given the period) and we'll do it again next year

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Quote from: ampere on February 05, 2021, 06:29:24 AM

Postponing will destabilize the knock out phases and also league ties; because if you postpone a champions league mid week game; it will affect league arrangement. Uefa instead should make the knock out stages a one legged tie, just like last season; it will ease travel burdens amidst the pandemic; and also helps to choose the safest location too.

Considering how hard the current Covid-19 keeps biting hard, it's a great idea and a welcomed one at that but not a lot of people would appreciate that. 2019/2020 UCL was just weird with those one-legged matches. If it has always been a one-legged affair, we wouldn't have gotten the chance to watch that glorious come back by Liverpool against Barcelona in 2018/19 campaign. Being a two-legged affair meant there was a second chance to fight for a comeback. Take that out and teams won't get much chances to redeem themselves.

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@ampere
i know

but we havent other solutions.. or you have a recipe?
i remember the guy said: open stadium for 10000 people

and some weeks ago, pandemic covid going in 2 wave

guys, is strange situation, we need do be flex .. we havent other solutions
or be flex or no matches (in tv) for all

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Quote from: babo on February 05, 2021, 05:43:01 AM

postponing is the only one solution

unfortunately we live in very particular times, and we cannot do otherwise (i mean covid)

indeed there are games to keep us company, think if they closed championships and cups, we could watch the games of the past (and it's not a nice thing)

Postponing will destabilize the knock out phases and also league ties; because if you postpone a champions league mid week game; it will affect league arrangement. Uefa instead should make the knock out stages a one legged tie, just like last season; it will ease travel burdens amidst the pandemic; and also helps to choose the safest location too.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on February 05, 2021, 04:14:36 AM

The BBC has published the official UEFA position on the possibility of postponing the match between Liverpool and Leipzig.
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If the match Leipzig against Liverpool is postponed, then the game Gladbach against ManCity should actually also be postponed, as there is the same constellation here. As the German media reported this morning, Gladbach is already looking for an alternative venue in Denmark.

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postponing is the only one solution

unfortunately we live in very particular times, and we cannot do otherwise (i mean covid)

indeed there are games to keep us company, think if they closed championships and cups, we could watch the games of the past (and it's not a nice thing)

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The BBC has published the official UEFA position on the possibility of postponing the match between Liverpool and Leipzig.
Here is a summary:

''European football's governing body Uefa has updated its regulations for the knockout stages of the Champions League and Europa League amid the ongoing coronavirus pandemic.
If restrictions imposed in a country could result in a match not taking place, "the home club must propose a suitable alternative venue, which may be in a neutral country. However, if the host club fails to do that and it is not possible to play the game at another venue or on a different date, Uefa says it will deem the match to have been forfeited, with the home side losing 3-0.
Uefa added: "In all cases, the venue of a match must be approved by the Uefa administration, which has the right to assign an alternative venue for any particular match or even to decide that either or both legs of the relevant round to be rescheduled and/or played in a neutral country (within the territory of a Uefa member association) and/or organised as a single-leg. These decisions are final."
Judging by this, the match between Liverpool and Leipzig will certainly take place but not in Germany but in another country with less strict Covid rules.
The German club will therefore be at a disadvantage because they will not be able to play at their stadium and in their country.
It seems to me that such situations could affect the regularity of the competition itself.

Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/55941213

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If we take the last matches of the teams, then the following situation emerges. But we must not forget that everything can change literally tomorrow.
Leipzig (GER) - Liverpool (ENG)
Barcellona (ESP) - Paris (FRA)

17 feb e 9 march
Porto (POR) - Juventus (ITA)
Siviglia (ESP) - Borussia Dortmund (GER)

23 feb e 17 march
Lazio (ITA) - Bayern (GER)
Atlético (ESP) - Chelsea (ENG)

24 feb e 16 march
Borussia Mönchengladbach (GER) - Manchester City (ENG)
Atalanta (ITA) - Real Madrid (ESP)

Wow you bet on my team, Atalanta? Why?
Atalanta are a great team, but still have little experience at the international level
in my heart I hope he wins, but I know the chances are low

let's hope at least it's a fun game

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Quote from: bullrun2024bro on February 04, 2021, 02:50:15 PM

It will be interesting to see how the odds develop if both games really do take place at Anfield. The fact that the first leg is not being played in Leipzig should be a clear advantage for Liverpool.

Why? I think without fans the home-away factor its gone.
Players can be less stressed without moving in another country yes but in the end it easier to play AWAY in a stadium without fans.

Anyway, this is something important, which are the other countries who are doing this?

AFAIK Italy-Portugal is a "green zone" atm and should have no problems.

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Quote from: bullrun2024bro on February 04, 2021, 02:50:15 PM

According to Sky Sports the Champions League match RB Leipzig - Liverpool FC won't take place in Leipzig due to coronavirus restrictions of the German Bundesregierung. The match will most likely be played at a neutral venue or possibly even in Liverpool. (see the quoted article below).

Quote from: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12208782/liverpool-not-allowed-to-face-champions-league-opponents-rb-leipzig-in-germany-due-to-coronavirus-restrictions

Champions League opponents RB Leipzig in Germany due to coronavirus restrictions

RB Leipzig host Liverpool in the Champions League on February 16; Germany has banned entry on all arrivals from areas affected by coronavirus mutations until at least February 17; the match could be played at Anfield or a neutral venue. Liverpool's Champions League round-of-16 first-leg match at RB Leipzig will not be able to take place in Germany, government officials have confirmed.

The German government has banned entry on all arrivals from areas affected by Covid-19 mutations until at least February 17, with the only exceptions made for German citizens or residents. The ban came into effect on Saturday and it has been confirmed there will not be any special allowances for Liverpool.

Source: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12208782/liverpool-not-allowed-to-face-champions-league-opponents-rb-leipzig-in-germany-due-to-coronavirus-restrictions

Source: https://www.oddsportal.com/soccer/europe/champions-league/

It will be interesting to see how the odds develop if both games really do take place at Anfield. The fact that the first leg is not being played in Leipzig should be a clear advantage for Liverpool.

Another confirmation of this news: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/liverpool-cannot-face-rb-leipzig-in-germany-due-to-covid-19-border-restrictions/ar-BB1doHwW?MSCC=1605609063

Croatian online portal Index also shared news about it here: https://www.index.hr/sport/clanak/liverpool-ne-smije-igrati-u-njemackoj-sto-sad/2252057.aspx?index_tid=91452
and in their commentary they also mention the possibility of canceling the match between Manchester City and Borussia Mönchengladbach.
Reportedly, UEFA already has a plan for this possibility and the matches should be played by April 2 at the latest.

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According to Sky Sports the Champions League match RB Leipzig - Liverpool FC won't take place in Leipzig due to coronavirus restrictions of the German Bundesregierung. The match will most likely be played at a neutral venue or possibly even in Liverpool. (see the quoted article below).

Quote from: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12208782/liverpool-not-allowed-to-face-champions-league-opponents-rb-leipzig-in-germany-due-to-coronavirus-restrictions

Champions League opponents RB Leipzig in Germany due to coronavirus restrictions

RB Leipzig host Liverpool in the Champions League on February 16; Germany has banned entry on all arrivals from areas affected by coronavirus mutations until at least February 17; the match could be played at Anfield or a neutral venue. Liverpool's Champions League round-of-16 first-leg match at RB Leipzig will not be able to take place in Germany, government officials have confirmed.

The German government has banned entry on all arrivals from areas affected by Covid-19 mutations until at least February 17, with the only exceptions made for German citizens or residents. The ban came into effect on Saturday and it has been confirmed there will not be any special allowances for Liverpool.

Source: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12208782/liverpool-not-allowed-to-face-champions-league-opponents-rb-leipzig-in-germany-due-to-coronavirus-restrictions

Source: https://www.oddsportal.com/soccer/europe/champions-league/

It will be interesting to see how the odds develop if both games really do take place at Anfield. The fact that the first leg is not being played in Leipzig should be a clear advantage for Liverpool.

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