UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread - page 844.

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Quote from: Iranus on January 24, 2021, 07:39:42 AM

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It seems to me that Barcelona won't beat PSG... PSG is stronger than Barcelona in my opinion.

Which one is stronger between Barcelona and PSG, is surely debatable. Don't judge too early if PSG is stronger! It is not impossible for Barcelona to win against PSG. Barcelona has Messi and other talented/quality players. If all Barcelona players can play with their best, I believe they can rule out PSG. Barcelona's problem is their player cannot play with their best performance now. If they can fix it, they can win the match.

There is no doubt that the PSG team is definitely strong. But the Barcelona team is no less strong. The Barcelona team consists of a bunch of talented players. Every player on the team is talented and skilled enough. They are capable of defeating any strong team. I think Barcelona's defense is a bit weaker than PSG's. It is difficult to predict which team will win this match

Not always the personal qualities of players can be useful. Especially if the players lack chemistry. Barcelona has it. But it seems to me that at this stage PSG will still be stronger and they obviously deserve to win more. Besides, PSG have been going to win the Champions League for several years

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I think that PSG will win this match... Barcelona had a bad season at home... While PSG is playing confidently both at home and in the League!
On the other hand, Athletico could well win the match against Chelsea...

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Quote from: Iranus on January 24, 2021, 07:39:42 AM

There is no doubt that the PSG team is definitely strong. But the Barcelona team is no less strong. The Barcelona team consists of a bunch of talented players. Every player on the team is talented and skilled enough. They are capable of defeating any strong team. I think Barcelona's defense is a bit weaker than PSG's. It is difficult to predict which team will win this match

Nobody is saying it will be piece of cake, I am sure even startupanalyst meant that PSG is "stronger" but not mean it will be very easy game. PSG could lose to any team, they lost to very low level team in the their league for example, it happens, it is football, so Barcelona 100% definitely has a "chance" to win. However the talk here is not if PSG will beat Barcelona by 5 or by 3, it is about who is stronger and whose roster is better.

Barcelona has players that can turn things around, players that can beat any team, Barcelona is a marvelous team, but they are not the stronger roster we have to agree with that. Can they end up winning this game? Of course they can, it is football and Barcelona is great at it, but I believe PSG is a lot better team and they have proven that in the past 2-3 years as well, so if I had to wager on one of them I would put my money on PSG, not because it is guaranteed 100% win, but they look a bit better.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on January 23, 2021, 04:13:21 PM

Quote from: StartupAnalyst on January 21, 2021, 04:58:36 PM

It seems to me that Barcelona won't beat PSG... PSG is stronger than Barcelona in my opinion.

Which one is stronger between Barcelona and PSG, is surely debatable. Don't judge too early if PSG is stronger! It is not impossible for Barcelona to win against PSG. Barcelona has Messi and other talented/quality players. If all Barcelona players can play with their best, I believe they can rule out PSG. Barcelona's problem is their player cannot play with their best performance now. If they can fix it, they can win the match.

There is no doubt that the PSG team is definitely strong. But the Barcelona team is no less strong. The Barcelona team consists of a bunch of talented players. Every player on the team is talented and skilled enough. They are capable of defeating any strong team. I think Barcelona's defense is a bit weaker than PSG's. It is difficult to predict which team will win this match

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Quote from: StartupAnalyst on January 21, 2021, 04:58:36 PM

It seems to me that Barcelona won't beat PSG... PSG is stronger than Barcelona in my opinion.

Which one is stronger between Barcelona and PSG, is surely debatable. Don't judge too early if PSG is stronger! It is not impossible for Barcelona to win against PSG. Barcelona has Messi and other talented/quality players. If all Barcelona players can play with their best, I believe they can rule out PSG. Barcelona's problem is their player cannot play with their best performance now. If they can fix it, they can win the match.

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Quote from: Iranus on January 23, 2021, 02:58:54 AM

Quote from: StartupAnalyst on January 22, 2021, 06:01:10 PM

Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on January 22, 2021, 01:20:36 PM

Quote from: babo on January 22, 2021, 12:23:45 PM

they work so much

christiano ronaldo (aka CR7) do extra training for himself
like Pavel Nedvěd, he work so much and do extra training... he is a professionist
like Messi...

i love the people love his job and work hard

Cristiano Ronaldo has been very hardworking since the beginning of his career. He keeps himself well-organized through hard work. Through rigorous practice, he is becoming more efficient day by day. I have my doubts about whether we will get players like Ronaldo and Messi in the future

We won't get those players, but there will be others. It was once said that we won't have Pele, Maradonna or Zidane. But almost every generation of players has its own stars. Who work very hard to become them. There will always be players who will be legends

I think the next generation will rule by Neymar and Mbappe. I think if Neymar can overcome his injury, he will be one of the best players in history. Also, Pedri and Ansu Fati are very talented. It remains to be seen who can prepare themselves properly over time

Neymar is already approaching 30; he is of this generation and not the next, most of us didn't watch Bican, Pele and Maradon during their football days we only heard about them after Ronaldo and Messi retired 3-4 years another star will rise and they would be forgotten too.

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Quote from: StartupAnalyst on January 22, 2021, 06:01:10 PM

Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on January 22, 2021, 01:20:36 PM

Quote from: babo on January 22, 2021, 12:23:45 PM

they work so much

christiano ronaldo (aka CR7) do extra training for himself
like Pavel Nedvěd, he work so much and do extra training... he is a professionist
like Messi...

i love the people love his job and work hard

Cristiano Ronaldo has been very hardworking since the beginning of his career. He keeps himself well-organized through hard work. Through rigorous practice, he is becoming more efficient day by day. I have my doubts about whether we will get players like Ronaldo and Messi in the future

We won't get those players, but there will be others. It was once said that we won't have Pele, Maradonna or Zidane. But almost every generation of players has its own stars. Who work very hard to become them. There will always be players who will be legends

I think the next generation will rule by Neymar and Mbappe. I think if Neymar can overcome his injury, he will be one of the best players in history. Also, Pedri and Ansu Fati are very talented. It remains to be seen who can prepare themselves properly over time

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on January 22, 2021, 01:20:36 PM

Quote from: babo on January 22, 2021, 12:23:45 PM

they work so much

christiano ronaldo (aka CR7) do extra training for himself
like Pavel Nedvěd, he work so much and do extra training... he is a professionist
like Messi...

i love the people love his job and work hard

Cristiano Ronaldo has been very hardworking since the beginning of his career. He keeps himself well-organized through hard work. Through rigorous practice, he is becoming more efficient day by day. I have my doubts about whether we will get players like Ronaldo and Messi in the future

We won't get those players, but there will be others. It was once said that we won't have Pele, Maradonna or Zidane. But almost every generation of players has its own stars. Who work very hard to become them. There will always be players who will be legends

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on January 22, 2021, 01:38:12 PM

I would like to express my opinions about the Atletico Madrid-Chelsea draw. Atletico are having a wonderful season in La Liga. They are 7 points away from their closest opponent and they have also 1 missing game. They are going strongly for the championship. Chelsea have been really bad in the Premier League so far. But they showed a great performance in their Champions League group. I think Atletico will eliminate Chelsea but I believe that we will see a nice competition in both games.

Yeah, Atlético Madrid had been so good so far while Chelsea have been sinking by the day. If we are to go by the current form, then Chelsea don't stand a chance. Even by their standards, at this stage of the season, Atlético Madrid have conceded the fewest number of goals this season than any other season under Simeone.

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I would like to express my opinions about the Atletico Madrid-Chelsea draw. Atletico are having a wonderful season in La Liga. They are 7 points away from their closest opponent and they have also 1 missing game. They are going strongly for the championship. Chelsea have been really bad in the Premier League so far. But they showed a great performance in their Champions League group. I think Atletico will eliminate Chelsea but I believe that we will see a nice competition in both games.

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Quote from: babo on January 22, 2021, 12:23:45 PM

they work so much

christiano ronaldo (aka CR7) do extra training for himself
like Pavel Nedvěd, he work so much and do extra training... he is a professionist
like Messi...

i love the people love his job and work hard

Cristiano Ronaldo has been very hardworking since the beginning of his career. He keeps himself well-organized through hard work. Through rigorous practice, he is becoming more efficient day by day. I have my doubts about whether we will get players like Ronaldo and Messi in the future

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they work so much

christiano ronaldo (aka CR7) do extra training for himself
like Pavel Nedvěd, he work so much and do extra training... he is a professionist
like Messi...

i love the people love his job and work hard

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Quote from: tyz on January 21, 2021, 04:36:08 PM

Quote from: StartupAnalyst on January 21, 2021, 03:48:25 PM

Quote from: Iranus on January 21, 2021, 10:57:35 AM

Quote from: babo on January 21, 2021, 06:37:36 AM

Messi is impossibile to replace for entire world!
Like we said can be replace Diego Maradona (impossible!!)

I only hope Messi can recover and found peace and play like old-Messi for fun of fans

(like me)

We want his magic

I totally agree with you. Messi's replacement is never possible. Even if Messi retires from football, the whole world will remember him. We have not forgotten Maradona. We still remember Pele or Zidane. We want to see many more years of Messi's magic.

Messi is a legend. Players like him don't come along very often. And it is clear that few people can become a star like him. But this is Barcelona, I think they can find some player who will go down in history. Although it's not the same Barcelona now. But I'm sure they have someone in the academy who will also become a legend

That's true. There are many young players which have/had the talend like Messi but they struggled to play on the level for longer time. A current example is Odegaard. A few years ago he was hailed as the next Messi and brought to Real Madrid for a lot of money. He just couldn't prevail, although his talent is clearly evident. Now he is looking for a new club and is in contact with middle class Premier League clubs. Players like Messi who are almost perfect in everything are very, very rare.

Messi has god gifted talent. At the same time, he is industrious. He has made himself better organized through hard work. I have never seen another player like him. Although Ronaldo is curly compared to Messi, Messi and Ronaldo's playstyle or strategy is totally different. There are many skilled players. But not all players can express their talents at the right time like Messi.

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Quote from: Iranus on January 21, 2021, 10:57:35 AM

Quote from: babo on January 21, 2021, 06:37:36 AM

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I totally agree with you. Messi's replacement is never possible. Even if Messi retires from football, the whole world will remember him. We have not forgotten Maradona. We still remember Pele or Zidane. We want to see many more years of Messi's magic.

Yes.. exact!
Messi is one of those players you remember for many years, just like the ones you mentioned: Zidane, Pele, Van Basten, Roberto Baggio, Del Piero .. all very good and unique players.
Players who personally gave me a lot of fun!

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Quote from: Wawa2013 on January 21, 2021, 05:18:36 PM

Quote from: StartupAnalyst on January 21, 2021, 04:58:36 PM

It seems to me that Barcelona won't beat PSG. Spanish soccer is not as strong now as it was a couple of years ago. PSG is stronger than Barcelona in my opinion. In general, the German club will probably win the Champions League this year. I won't say which one Grin

I also think the same that it is possible for Barcelona to lose against PSG, especially since Barcelona's performances have been very inconsistent
this season. Even Barcelona failed to win the Super Cup after being defeated by Bilbao. Meanwhile, PSG has a new genius coach, Mauricio
Pochettino, who has succeeded in making Tottenham become a strong team. Moreover, Pochettino now at PSG has players with much better quality
than Tottenham. Should be able to make PSG win the Champions League. Even though winning the Champions League is not easy, have to face
several other strong teams. One of the team you mean is the team from Germany, namely Bayern Munich who will win the Champions League
this year, right?

Yes, I mean Bayern Munich. The club is very strong now, I think they will win the Champions League this year. And in general the German championship is the strongest in my opinion. It was strong even before the coronavirus. But now they are stronger in comparison to others

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Quote from: StartupAnalyst on January 21, 2021, 04:58:36 PM

It seems to me that Barcelona won't beat PSG. Spanish soccer is not as strong now as it was a couple of years ago. PSG is stronger than Barcelona in my opinion. In general, the German club will probably win the Champions League this year. I won't say which one Grin

I also think the same that it is possible for Barcelona to lose against PSG, especially since Barcelona's performances have been very inconsistent
this season. Even Barcelona failed to win the Super Cup after being defeated by Bilbao. Meanwhile, PSG has a new genius coach, Mauricio
Pochettino, who has succeeded in making Tottenham become a strong team. Moreover, Pochettino now at PSG has players with much better quality
than Tottenham. Should be able to make PSG win the Champions League. Even though winning the Champions League is not easy, have to face
several other strong teams. One of the team you mean is the team from Germany, namely Bayern Munich who will win the Champions League
this year, right?

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It seems to me that Barcelona won't beat PSG. Spanish soccer is not as strong now as it was a couple of years ago. PSG is stronger than Barcelona in my opinion. In general, the German club will probably win the Champions League this year. I won't say which one Grin

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Quote from: StartupAnalyst on January 21, 2021, 03:48:25 PM

Quote from: Iranus on January 21, 2021, 10:57:35 AM

Quote from: babo on January 21, 2021, 06:37:36 AM

Messi is impossibile to replace for entire world!
Like we said can be replace Diego Maradona (impossible!!)

I only hope Messi can recover and found peace and play like old-Messi for fun of fans

(like me)

We want his magic

I totally agree with you. Messi's replacement is never possible. Even if Messi retires from football, the whole world will remember him. We have not forgotten Maradona. We still remember Pele or Zidane. We want to see many more years of Messi's magic.

Messi is a legend. Players like him don't come along very often. And it is clear that few people can become a star like him. But this is Barcelona, I think they can find some player who will go down in history. Although it's not the same Barcelona now. But I'm sure they have someone in the academy who will also become a legend

That's true. There are many young players which have/had the talend like Messi but they struggled to play on the level for longer time. A current example is Odegaard. A few years ago he was hailed as the next Messi and brought to Real Madrid for a lot of money. He just couldn't prevail, although his talent is clearly evident. Now he is looking for a new club and is in contact with middle class Premier League clubs. Players like Messi who are almost perfect in everything are very, very rare.

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Quote from: Iranus on January 21, 2021, 10:57:35 AM

Quote from: babo on January 21, 2021, 06:37:36 AM

Messi is impossibile to replace for entire world!
Like we said can be replace Diego Maradona (impossible!!)

I only hope Messi can recover and found peace and play like old-Messi for fun of fans

(like me)

We want his magic

I totally agree with you. Messi's replacement is never possible. Even if Messi retires from football, the whole world will remember him. We have not forgotten Maradona. We still remember Pele or Zidane. We want to see many more years of Messi's magic.

Messi is a legend. Players like him don't come along very often. And it is clear that few people can become a star like him. But this is Barcelona, I think they can find some player who will go down in history. Although it's not the same Barcelona now. But I'm sure they have someone in the academy who will also become a legend

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Quote from: babo on January 21, 2021, 06:37:36 AM

Messi is impossibile to replace for entire world!
Like we said can be replace Diego Maradona (impossible!!)

I only hope Messi can recover and found peace and play like old-Messi for fun of fans

(like me)

We want his magic

I totally agree with you. Messi's replacement is never possible. Even if Messi retires from football, the whole world will remember him. We have not forgotten Maradona. We still remember Pele or Zidane. We want to see many more years of Messi's magic.

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