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Quote from: babo on January 14, 2021, 09:03:11 AM

Quote from: Iranus on January 13, 2021, 02:46:18 PM

to take any risk in this match. This season, the Barcelona team is totally unpredictable. They have also lost against easy opponents. Again showed great performance in the champion league. I would not be surprised if Barcelona scored 3/4 goals-against PSG

Yep, because Barcelona is broken in "mind" not in skills or good players
is strong team, Messi.. guys.. is messi, no another one like him

But the bad news about Messi destabilize team and this is the result
is like Inter of Antonio Conte.. is broken team in "mind" and the match with Inter is total unpredictable

Although Barcelona has many talented players, Barcelona still relies entirely on Messi. If Messi plays well, the team wins, if Messi fails to perform, the overall performance of the team is not good. Barcelona will become more stable when players reduce their dependence on Messi.

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Quote from: babo on January 14, 2021, 09:03:11 AM

Quote from: Iranus on January 13, 2021, 02:46:18 PM

to take any risk in this match. This season, the Barcelona team is totally unpredictable. They have also lost against easy opponents. Again showed great performance in the champion league. I would not be surprised if Barcelona scored 3/4 goals-against PSG

Yep, because Barcelona is broken in "mind" not in skills or good players
is strong team, Messi.. guys.. is messi, no another one like him

But the bad news about Messi destabilize team and this is the result
is like Inter of Antonio Conte.. is broken team in "mind" and the match with Inter is total unpredictable

There are still tons of time left, so I can't say for sure what will happen however one thing missing from the topic is that Barcelona "was" bad and not anymore. If you open up the la liga standings for example, you will see that Barcelona has 4 losses and 4 ties, in just 18 games, that means they lost points on 8 games, but if you look at the last 5 games, they have won 4 of them with just one tie.

As you can see they were not great, but they recovered, if you remove the last 5 games for example, it happens that they played 13 games, had 3 ties and 4 losses and only 6 wins, it looked way worse. The early part of champions league came right when they were not good and didn't recover. I believe they will be much better when they play now, and they will give up a fight. However it is PSG they are facing, so they could still lose and none of that could mean anything.

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Quote from: babo on January 14, 2021, 09:03:11 AM

Quote from: Iranus on January 13, 2021, 02:46:18 PM

to take any risk in this match. This season, the Barcelona team is totally unpredictable. They have also lost against easy opponents. Again showed great performance in the champion league. I would not be surprised if Barcelona scored 3/4 goals-against PSG

Yep, because Barcelona is broken in "mind" not in skills or good players
is strong team, Messi.. guys.. is messi, no another one like him

But the bad news about Messi destabilize team and this is the result
is like Inter of Antonio Conte.. is broken team in "mind" and the match with Inter is total unpredictable

Yep the whole story with Messi who wanted to leave at the beginning of the season is still an issue within the team. Everyone got the feeling he isn't giving the full 100% anymore to the team. The other players experience this and made them play this inconsistent.

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Quote from: Iranus on January 13, 2021, 02:46:18 PM

to take any risk in this match. This season, the Barcelona team is totally unpredictable. They have also lost against easy opponents. Again showed great performance in the champion league. I would not be surprised if Barcelona scored 3/4 goals-against PSG

Yep, because Barcelona is broken in "mind" not in skills or good players
is strong team, Messi.. guys.. is messi, no another one like him

But the bad news about Messi destabilize team and this is the result
is like Inter of Antonio Conte.. is broken team in "mind" and the match with Inter is total unpredictable

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Quote from: Iranus on January 13, 2021, 02:46:18 PM

I don't want to take any risk in this match. This season, the Barcelona team is totally unpredictable. They have also lost against easy opponents. Again showed great performance in the champion league. I would not be surprised if Barcelona scored 3/4 goals-against PSG

Nice to see you guys all having faith in my team but I somehow agree here and I've been saying it from early on in the season -- we need to focus on rebuild and not on winning La Liga. Not if it comes at the expense of reorganizing our team and coaching and entire club structure.

BUT we can focus on winning Champions League. It's not going to be too distracting. Give Messi one more taste!

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Quote from: masulum on January 14, 2021, 03:24:07 AM

Quote from: Iranus on January 13, 2021, 02:46:18 PM

I don't want to take any risk in this match. This season, the Barcelona team is totally unpredictable. They have also lost against easy opponents. Again showed great performance in the champion league. I would not be surprised if Barcelona scored 3/4 goals-against PSG

I'm not sure Barcelona can scored more than 2 goals in this match. Even they are showing good performance againts top teams, PSG have good defender in local competitions they conceded 11 goals and 6 goals at UCL. From this results I can assume if PSG's defender is good enough to makes Messi find the net. Even they are lost from Barcelona, the score maybe max 2 goals. The only teams who can makes 3 goals vs PSG this season only AS Monaco. even Madrid are struggling to create more than 2 goals.

I agree that PSG's defense is very good, Marquinhos and Diallo's play is very solid when defending PSG. Therefore the Barcelona attacker will not
easily score goals, while Barcelona this season has been very inconsistent. So my prediction is that PSG can win the match, especially since being
coached by Pochettino, PSG's game is a little more attacking. I believe PSG can beat Barcelona.

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Quote from: masulum on January 14, 2021, 03:24:07 AM

Quote from: Iranus on January 13, 2021, 02:46:18 PM

I don't want to take any risk in this match. This season, the Barcelona team is totally unpredictable. They have also lost against easy opponents. Again showed great performance in the champion league. I would not be surprised if Barcelona scored 3/4 goals-against PSG

I'm not sure Barcelona can scored more than 2 goals in this match. Even they are showing good performance againts top teams, PSG have good defender in local competitions they conceded 11 goals and 6 goals at UCL. From this results I can assume if PSG's defender is good enough to makes Messi find the net. Even they are lost from Barcelona, the score maybe max 2 goals. The only teams who can makes 3 goals vs PSG this season only AS Monaco. even Madrid are struggling to create more than 2 goals.

The result of this match will most of all depend on the condition of Messi. Unfortunately, without Messi, the team is 50% weaker. In games without Messi this season, Barcelona was very weak. Even against the average teams, they did not show the same level as with Messi.

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Quote from: Iranus on January 13, 2021, 02:46:18 PM

I don't want to take any risk in this match. This season, the Barcelona team is totally unpredictable. They have also lost against easy opponents. Again showed great performance in the champion league. I would not be surprised if Barcelona scored 3/4 goals-against PSG

I'm not sure Barcelona can scored more than 2 goals in this match. Even they are showing good performance againts top teams, PSG have good defender in local competitions they conceded 11 goals and 6 goals at UCL. From this results I can assume if PSG's defender is good enough to makes Messi find the net. Even they are lost from Barcelona, the score maybe max 2 goals. The only teams who can makes 3 goals vs PSG this season only AS Monaco. even Madrid are struggling to create more than 2 goals.

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Quote from: babo on January 13, 2021, 04:39:20 AM

next intersting game, in my humble opinions is the match of "turn"...
Barcellona versus PSG

is hard to estimate, but if i bet something.. i bet on PSG.. because Barcellona is broken team at moment

i hope he recovers soon, i liked so much how they played

Watching the last match of Barcelona, I thought they were back in form. Griezmann and Messi have both been able to score. Overall, Barcelona played that kind of game we expect from them. PSG is a very tough team and they are in form. I think Barcelona is back in track well. So, now It is very difficult to predict which team will win

Yes, it's time for these two teams to get back on track because I don't think these two teams were very good at the start, but as time goes by then at least the change towards a more positive one is visible now. So with that change, I agree that this match will be even more difficult to predict because even the slightest mistake will have a bad impact on the final result.

I don't want to take any risk in this match. This season, the Barcelona team is totally unpredictable. They have also lost against easy opponents. Again showed great performance in the champion league. I would not be surprised if Barcelona scored 3/4 goals-against PSG

You're complety right. Barcelona was always a rock steady team but this season they can lose of the low-ranked team and win against top teams.

This can result is nice betting options for those matches.

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Quote from: babo on January 13, 2021, 04:39:20 AM

next intersting game, in my humble opinions is the match of "turn"...
Barcellona versus PSG

is hard to estimate, but if i bet something.. i bet on PSG.. because Barcellona is broken team at moment

i hope he recovers soon, i liked so much how they played

Watching the last match of Barcelona, I thought they were back in form. Griezmann and Messi have both been able to score. Overall, Barcelona played that kind of game we expect from them. PSG is a very tough team and they are in form. I think Barcelona is back in track well. So, now It is very difficult to predict which team will win

Yes, it's time for these two teams to get back on track because I don't think these two teams were very good at the start, but as time goes by then at least the change towards a more positive one is visible now. So with that change, I agree that this match will be even more difficult to predict because even the slightest mistake will have a bad impact on the final result.

I don't want to take any risk in this match. This season, the Barcelona team is totally unpredictable. They have also lost against easy opponents. Again showed great performance in the champion league. I would not be surprised if Barcelona scored 3/4 goals-against PSG

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Quote from: slapper on January 12, 2021, 03:49:53 PM

Real indeed needs to focus on their remaining warriors. And Zidane surely understands well the situation he is facing. This year is hard for this coach and there are many things that need to be done so as to reorganize the whole team. Well, so far so good. I always support Real and Zidane no matter what.

Real Madrid is a fairly stable team. And an experienced coach like Zidane makes the team more organized and strong. Real Madrid only needs a skilled striker at this time. Their midfield and defence lineup is one of the strongest lineups in La Liga in my opinion. If an experienced striker can take them to the team, they will be even stronger.

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Quote from: babo on January 13, 2021, 04:39:20 AM

next intersting game, in my humble opinions is the match of "turn"...
Barcellona versus PSG

is hard to estimate, but if i bet something.. i bet on PSG.. because Barcellona is broken team at moment

i hope he recovers soon, i liked so much how they played

Watching the last match of Barcelona, I thought they were back in form. Griezmann and Messi have both been able to score. Overall, Barcelona played that kind of game we expect from them. PSG is a very tough team and they are in form. I think Barcelona is back in track well. So, now It is very difficult to predict which team will win

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next intersting game, in my humble opinions is the match of "turn"...
Barcellona versus PSG

is hard to estimate, but if i bet something.. i bet on PSG.. because Barcellona is broken team at moment

i hope he recovers soon, i liked so much how they played

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Real Madrid's problem is in Benzema. He has never been a top striker. He always needed a few chances to score a goal. Suarez is currently stronger than him. There are many more players who are stronger than Benzema. But Real is not going to buy more strong attacker.

You are right. Benzema has never been a top striker. I think Griezmann and Benzama are very similar. Griezmann was able to score after getting many chances. Although Benzema is not a top striker, but he scores regularly. This is very good for Real Madrid. Real Madrid striker is just one but their midfield is very strong. I think that's why Real Madrid was able to win the matches.

Real Madrid needs a player who plays well in the opponent's penalty area. Benzema is more of a flank player. He enjoys a lot of Zidane's trust. And while Zidane is coach in Real Madrid, we are unlikely to see a very strong striker. If new players come next year, then it will be mainly flanking midfielders or defenders.

As long as Zidan is in charge of Real Madrid, I don't expect him to replace Benzema. Benzema is Zidane's favorite player. I think as like you. They will change the midfielders and the defense line up without changing the Real Madrid forward line-up.

Unfortunately, Zidane has favorites in the team. And he will create conditions for them against the logic. Some players should be sold, as they do not show themselves despite the given chances. But Zidane will not do it. Even if it hurts the team.

Zidane not get any new player for Real Madrid and look little hard because on midfielder Real Madrid need new player and forward position not evolution for Real Madrid as Benzema competitor, I think Real Madrid look not serious to get new player on January window transfer because so far nothing news and issues with new player will arrive or Bernabeu stadium. Maybe Real Madrid right now keep focus with the same player without have any change and become hard for Zidane.

Real indeed needs to focus on their remaining warriors. And Zidane surely understands well the situation he is facing. This year is hard for this coach and there are many things that need to be done so as to reorganize the whole team. Well, so far so good. I always support Real and Zidane no matter what.

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Real Madrid's problem is in Benzema. He has never been a top striker. He always needed a few chances to score a goal. Suarez is currently stronger than him. There are many more players who are stronger than Benzema. But Real is not going to buy more strong attacker.

You are right. Benzema has never been a top striker. I think Griezmann and Benzama are very similar. Griezmann was able to score after getting many chances. Although Benzema is not a top striker, but he scores regularly. This is very good for Real Madrid. Real Madrid striker is just one but their midfield is very strong. I think that's why Real Madrid was able to win the matches.

Real Madrid needs a player who plays well in the opponent's penalty area. Benzema is more of a flank player. He enjoys a lot of Zidane's trust. And while Zidane is coach in Real Madrid, we are unlikely to see a very strong striker. If new players come next year, then it will be mainly flanking midfielders or defenders.

As long as Zidan is in charge of Real Madrid, I don't expect him to replace Benzema. Benzema is Zidane's favorite player. I think as like you. They will change the midfielders and the defense line up without changing the Real Madrid forward line-up.

Unfortunately, Zidane has favorites in the team. And he will create conditions for them against the logic. Some players should be sold, as they do not show themselves despite the given chances. But Zidane will not do it. Even if it hurts the team.

Zidane not get any new player for Real Madrid and look little hard because on midfielder Real Madrid need new player and forward position not evolution for Real Madrid as Benzema competitor, I think Real Madrid look not serious to get new player on January window transfer because so far nothing news and issues with new player will arrive or Bernabeu stadium. Maybe Real Madrid right now keep focus with the same player without have any change and become hard for Zidane.

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Real Madrid's problem is in Benzema. He has never been a top striker. He always needed a few chances to score a goal. Suarez is currently stronger than him. There are many more players who are stronger than Benzema. But Real is not going to buy more strong attacker.

You are right. Benzema has never been a top striker. I think Griezmann and Benzama are very similar. Griezmann was able to score after getting many chances. Although Benzema is not a top striker, but he scores regularly. This is very good for Real Madrid. Real Madrid striker is just one but their midfield is very strong. I think that's why Real Madrid was able to win the matches.

Real Madrid needs a player who plays well in the opponent's penalty area. Benzema is more of a flank player. He enjoys a lot of Zidane's trust. And while Zidane is coach in Real Madrid, we are unlikely to see a very strong striker. If new players come next year, then it will be mainly flanking midfielders or defenders.

As long as Zidan is in charge of Real Madrid, I don't expect him to replace Benzema. Benzema is Zidane's favorite player. I think as like you. They will change the midfielders and the defense line up without changing the Real Madrid forward line-up.

Unfortunately, Zidane has favorites in the team. And he will create conditions for them against the logic. Some players should be sold, as they do not show themselves despite the given chances. But Zidane will not do it. Even if it hurts the team.

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Quote from: kassex on January 08, 2021, 04:23:18 AM

Real Madrid's problem is in Benzema. He has never been a top striker. He always needed a few chances to score a goal. Suarez is currently stronger than him. There are many more players who are stronger than Benzema. But Real is not going to buy more strong attacker.

You are right. Benzema has never been a top striker. I think Griezmann and Benzama are very similar. Griezmann was able to score after getting many chances. Although Benzema is not a top striker, but he scores regularly. This is very good for Real Madrid. Real Madrid striker is just one but their midfield is very strong. I think that's why Real Madrid was able to win the matches.

Real Madrid needs a player who plays well in the opponent's penalty area. Benzema is more of a flank player. He enjoys a lot of Zidane's trust. And while Zidane is coach in Real Madrid, we are unlikely to see a very strong striker. If new players come next year, then it will be mainly flanking midfielders or defenders.

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Quote from: kassex on January 08, 2021, 04:23:18 AM

Real Madrid's problem is in Benzema. He has never been a top striker. He always needed a few chances to score a goal. Suarez is currently stronger than him. There are many more players who are stronger than Benzema. But Real is not going to buy more strong attacker.

You are right. Benzema has never been a top striker. I think Griezmann and Benzama are very similar. Griezmann was able to score after getting many chances. Although Benzema is not a top striker, but he scores regularly. This is very good for Real Madrid. Real Madrid striker is just one but their midfield is very strong. I think that's why Real Madrid was able to win the matches.

Real Madrid doesn't count in Benzema 100% not even 75% and this is good for the team. Many players scored in the last games of Real Madrid in different competitions and that's quite rare to see even in major teams.

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Real Madrid is the same. They are much more dependent on Benjama.

Real Madrid isn't really the same like Barcelona. Real Madrid doesn't depend too much on Benzema. Real Madrid looks depending on Benzema right now because other young strikers still cannot play with their best performance. I think Real Madrid needs another top striker. If they have another top striker, I believe Real doesn't depend on Benzema anymore.

For me, the crucial players in Real Madrid aren't Benzema but those 3 best midfielders of Real Madrid (Casemiro-Kroos-Modric). If they cannot play together, Real Madrid will be a bit difficult to take the ball possessions.

Real Madrid always had its focus on the forward players and historically has had some of the best strikers like Raoul Gonzalez,Cristiano Ronaldo and a few others.Nowadays though I agree it is more focused on the midfield as it is there where games are won now.They have classy names like Kroos and Modric and I think they can play together without problems.However this is not enough to win the Champions,they need a better striker than Benzema for this.

@kawetsriyanto mate, Real Madrid relies heavily on Benzema. No other striker has been able to perform well. Maybe a midfielder scores, otherwise Benzama scores for Madrid's wins. On a platform like the Champions League, it is very difficult to be a champion with one skilled striker. I agree with @swogerino. If Real Madrid's goal is to win the Champions League, they need to have a better striker than Benzema.

Real Madrid's problem is in Benzema. He has never been a top striker. He always needed a few chances to score a goal. Suarez is currently stronger than him. There are many more players who are stronger than Benzema. But Real is not going to buy more strong attacker.

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in my humble opinion Real Madrid cannot win this championship
they are clubs under pressure that face many problems, if the players do not cooperate

I see well teams like PSG or in any case of that size, they are hungry
and they are very aggressive, for me there will be some surprises

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