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November 06, 2020, 06:00:26 PM
~snip~

That's an interesting observation. It is really noticeable. The German teams alone scored a total of 26 goals in their 6 matches in Champions and Europla League this matchday.

But why do you think it's an effect from the Corona crisis? Do you think that in a match without fans in the stadium the player aren't that motivated in general (the atmosphere really feels like a training match in front of the TV)? Or can it be a result of the packed schedules so that teams are depending even more on the stamina of their players?
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November 06, 2020, 05:37:31 PM
So many red cards this week.

First we have Sevilla getting a red card versus Krasnodar at half-time but yet they still managed to put in two goals at the second half, and Krasnodar scored none in the second half.

Then we have a Rennes red card against Chelsea, who absolutely stomped them with a penalty goal and a third goal a few minutes later. Chelsea was already leading 1-0 at the time the red card was shown.

The last and most brutal match was Leipzig vs PSG where PSG got two red cards. Both cards were shown after all the goals of the match were scored, and the second one came at the very end of the match but this really prevented PSG from at least making a tie let alone a win. Not that Leipzig is particularly good or anything - after all, they did lose 5-0 to Man United a week ago.

Shaktar vs Monchengladbach looks unreal. baring the own goal Shaktar did, 3 of them were scored by Alassane Plea, and they're lucky to have a really good striker like him. (He was playing sticker in this match but I heard he also does winger sometimes).

I was also surprised by the many red cards in the Champions League match this week, maybe some players are experiencing stress due
to the COVID19 situation. So it affects mentally when playing, and finally getting emotional easily results in red cards. The most surprising
thing is the two red cards PSG got when they lost to Leipzig, This looks frustrating PSG players after Emil Forsberg scored a goal that put
Leipzig ahead. For Moenchengladbach to win by a large score is beyond estimation, and I agree Alassane Plea did play extraordinary by scoring
3 goals and 1 assist. So Moenchengladbach deserved to win against Shakhtar Donetsk.
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November 06, 2020, 05:12:23 PM
So many red cards this week.

First we have Sevilla getting a red card versus Krasnodar at half-time but yet they still managed to put in two goals at the second half, and Krasnodar scored none in the second half.

Then we have a Rennes red card against Chelsea, who absolutely stomped them with a penalty goal and a third goal a few minutes later. Chelsea was already leading 1-0 at the time the red card was shown.

The last and most brutal match was Leipzig vs PSG where PSG got two red cards. Both cards were shown after all the goals of the match were scored, and the second one came at the very end of the match but this really prevented PSG from at least making a tie let alone a win. Not that Leipzig is particularly good or anything - after all, they did lose 5-0 to Man United a week ago.

Shaktar vs Monchengladbach looks unreal. baring the own goal Shaktar did, 3 of them were scored by Alassane Plea, and they're lucky to have a really good striker like him. (He was playing sticker in this match but I heard he also does winger sometimes).

2016-2017 20
2017-2018 19
2018-2019 20
2019-2020 33
2020-2021 already 7

How does that explain the 33 count for 2019-2020 though? Coronavirus came into football leagues late in the season so that couldn't have caused matches to get that many goals quickly, and I don't recall anything else abnormal happening in that season.
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November 06, 2020, 04:50:08 PM
Speaking of this week's Champions League matches, how is it possible that Donetsk had won in Madrid a few weeks ago and this week has been completely demolished in their own stadium 0-6 against Borussia Moenchengladbach. First winning against Madrid in Bernabeau and then lose with 0-6  Cry

I think this is the COVID effect.

I see often now without people at the stadium games when a high number of goals are scored.
I remember an Aston Villa Liverpool 7-2, several 6 - 0.

It will be interesting to see if it is only my impression or it has a statitical value.

For example in Serie a

games with more than 6 goals
0-6 1-5 2-4 3-3 4-2 5-1 6-0
0-7 1-6 2-5 3-4 4-3 5-2 6-1 7-0
0-8 1-7 2-6 3-5 4-4 5-3 6-2 7-1 8-0
0-9 1-8...

2016-2017 20
2017-2018 19
2018-2019 20
2019-2020 33
2020-2021 already 7

This site track it: https://www.statistichesulcalcio.com/mainstats.php?anno=125&parz2=sleep&parz=sleep

It is in italian


Edit: english version https://www.statistikbet.com/
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November 06, 2020, 04:29:19 PM
Speaking of this week's Champions League matches, how is it possible that Donetsk had won in Madrid a few weeks ago and this week has been completely demolished in their own stadium 0-6 against Borussia Moenchengladbach. First winning against Madrid in Bernabeau and then lose with 0-6  Cry
Music to the ears of Madridstas  Cheesy
This means that the table leaders are within reach and  the early scare of Real Madrid dropping out of group stages had for now been quelled. All Real Madrid has to do is will all their remaining games. Borussia mönchengladbac is a tougher challenger as compared to FC Shakhtar Donetsk
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November 06, 2020, 06:17:06 AM
Speaking of this week's Champions League matches, how is it possible that Donetsk had won in Madrid a few weeks ago and this week has been completely demolished in their own stadium 0-6 against Borussia Moenchengladbach. First winning against Madrid in Bernabeau and then lose with 0-6  Cry
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November 05, 2020, 04:05:17 PM
I have said repeatedly that we should give them some time because pandemic breaks and restarts and breaks and restarts constantly may have affected some teams more than other teams hence why United could get into a better momentum later stage in the season,
All teams all over the world have been affected by the lockdowns imposed due to Covid, this is no excuse for United's poor performance. There are teams with far less quality players but have still managed to perform well so far despite the breaks. Manchester United are so inconsistent and the problem could be coming from the coaching staff because the avearge quality of players they have is not bad.
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November 05, 2020, 04:01:49 PM
Man United also had a very bad start to the Premier League season. And so far they could've compensated it a bit with their performances in the UCL but now that match yesterday ... They have to get their shit together. Otherwise tough times will be ahead for Solskjaer.

Ok, I hope Manchester United can move on as soon as possible and make the fans happy again. Losing really isn't wanted, but this is football. You never know what will happen on the pitch even though Manchester United are the favorite there.

Forget for a moment Manchester United's embarrassing defeat last night as I am very happy Barcelona are still doing well so far as group leader. 3 maximum result they can achieve and that's fantastic in my opinion even though in the league they are not consistent enough. Some disappointing result in the league are unlikely to affect them at UCL and this is hope. I hope that in the second leg the two team will play their superstar and it will be a great reunion between Ronaldo and Messi. Hopefully that happen on December 9th.
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November 05, 2020, 03:43:38 PM
I have said repeatedly that we should give them some time because pandemic breaks and restarts and breaks and restarts constantly may have affected some teams more than other teams hence why United could get into a better momentum later stage in the season, but you can't just lose to this team, united should have won this game very very easily, they are giving up points in games both here and in premier league where they shouldn't, lose against big teams would be understandable but losing to much smaller teams rings alarm bells.

I kinda agree with you. Sure the Corona crisis has a lot of impact with many matches in a short period of time. But that's not only the case for Manchester United. Fact is that they are damn inconsistant with their performances. One week they sent home Leipzig with 5 goals, the next week they are losing to Basaksehirs, a team that hasn't won a single match in the Champion League, like ever!

Man United also had a very bad start to the Premier League season. And so far they could've compensated it a bit with their performances in the UCL but now that match yesterday ... They have to get their shit together. Otherwise tough times will be ahead for Solskjaer.
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November 05, 2020, 02:05:50 PM
That basaksehir game was basically the talk of the night, and even though there were other games that we could consider not favorites winning, I would say the biggest shock was United losing and with how they are doing in the premier league as well, things are not looking great for the team.

I have said repeatedly that we should give them some time because pandemic breaks and restarts and breaks and restarts constantly may have affected some teams more than other teams hence why United could get into a better momentum later stage in the season, but you can't just lose to this team, united should have won this game very very easily, they are giving up points in games both here and in premier league where they shouldn't, lose against big teams would be understandable but losing to much smaller teams rings alarm bells.
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November 05, 2020, 12:58:14 PM
~snip~


With PSG lost last night, it would be more interesting to see this group.
United needs to secure their spot on UEFA Europa League.
Maybe they plan to drink coffee together or they apply social distancing to opposing players (lol). EPL class players made us laugh. They are like amateurs or children who have just played soccer. They only focus on the ball, they don't see the other players moving. Their position is also not ready. There might be more hashtags for #oleout with this result.
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November 05, 2020, 12:41:24 PM
it was a fantastic german champions leaque week. all german teams won . and they scored a total of 17 goals.
that's rare in champions leaque. i hope that all german teams will finish this round successfully and we will see
many more great games with many german goals
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November 05, 2020, 11:52:51 AM
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With PSG lost last night, it would be more interesting to see this group.
United needs to secure their spot on UEFA Europa League.

this photo really makes me laugh..

these matches happen and these mistakes are completely normal
some teams arrive in the Champions League totally unprepared

and yes, now that group becomes an interesting battlefield Cheesy
It was very funny how Man United's defense last night, especially when Demba Ba's first goal in MU's defense was completely destroyed, there was no defender to guard Demba Ba. It's true what Gerry Niville said about Maguire not being fit to be a United defender because he played so badly. Second goal İstanbul Başakşehir make us laughing how come three defender of Manchester United do not take care of opposing players and looks they take care with their friend him self, for success in champion and primer league United have get new defensif player again and sell maguire to other club.


you are absolutely right you know? I think the team panicked or were tired or not adequately prepared athletically
or all these reasons together, because it's a pretty gross mistake I must say
but unfortunately it happens and the opponents obviously take advantage of it (they try)
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November 05, 2020, 11:28:22 AM

PSG should have won,,, they actually as you said wasted their chances, if they scored the penalty then it would be 0-2 and then Leipzig would be more open and more aggressive, this was a throwaway game.


There is still a chance for PSG to have the opportunity to go to the next round but if the game doesn't change and it's a little difficult to continue Leipzig and Manchester United will be stronger to become the defending champion in the group phase, therefore I think PSG should be able to do more where the best performance is his.
PSG is not ready for the current composition of players, seen when some of the top players like Neymar, Kylian Mbappé, who were absent due to injuries, have greatly decreased PSG's performance and they have suffered defeats from Manchester United and Leipzig. Moreover, so far they have played three matches and only got one win, of course it will be a warning for Tochul whether he can qualify for the Champions League final like last season or not, considering that the competition for this group is very tight where MU has already got 6 points as well as Leipzig.
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November 05, 2020, 11:16:21 AM

PSG should have won,,, they actually as you said wasted their chances, if they scored the penalty then it would be 0-2 and then Leipzig would be more open and more aggressive, this was a throwaway game.


There is still a chance for PSG to have the opportunity to go to the next round but if the game doesn't change and it's a little difficult to continue Leipzig and Manchester United will be stronger to become the defending champion in the group phase, therefore I think PSG should be able to do more where the best performance is his.
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November 05, 2020, 10:52:41 AM
Whats everyones Picks tonight?

Im going to be on Leverkusen and the over 2.5 -> Odds at around 2.0.

Feel like Leverkusen can open up the game and should able to get a good amount of shots onto the goal.



Your reply about Leverkusen should be on UEFA Europa League Discussion Thread :p
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/uefa-europa-league-discussion-thread-5161551


It was very funny how Man United's defense last night, especially when Demba Ba's first goal in MU's defense was completely destroyed, there was no defender to guard Demba Ba. It's true what Gerry Niville said about Maguire not being fit to be a United defender because he played so badly. Second goal İstanbul Başakşehir make us laughing how come three defender of Manchester United do not take care of opposing players and looks they take care with their friend him self, for success in champion and primer league United have get new defensif player again and sell maguire to other club.

Maguire were really slow, he moves rigid like an iron man mark 1.
United won their duel vs PSG because he didn't play, right? lol.
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November 05, 2020, 10:48:10 AM
Barcelona, ​​Chelsea, Sevilla and Juventus are likely to win today. Leizpig could create a sensation today by beating PSG, but Russia is also likely to win, but there is also the possibility of a draw.
Guessed all the results. Krasnodar surprised me with its game. Lack of experience still affected. We couldn't keep the winning score. And Sevilla has a pretty strong team, Lopategi gathered some good players under his leadership. and Leipzig is unrivaled. I expect them to repeat last year's result.
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November 05, 2020, 10:44:21 AM

With Juventus impressive performance since Ronaldo returned, I feel they were just waiting on him. Every member of their team has been on their best so far. We're talking about the same Morata that couldn't score against a weak Barcelona team.


Morata is just in a god mode now, everything he touchs is a goal.

He scored 12 goals in 7 games I think, and 6 were removed for offside.
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November 05, 2020, 10:14:51 AM
They never failed to surprise us.
They are another version of Liverpool BK (before klopp) now.
They can win against big teams, but they wont pass medioker teams.
Because that is their level now. Medioker team always be motivated against bigger teams.

With PSG lost last night, it would be more interesting to see this group.
United needs to secure their spot on UEFA Europa League.

PSG should have won,,, they actually as you said wasted their chances, if they scored the penalty then it would be 0-2 and then Leipzig would be more open and more aggressive, this was a throwaway game.

Truly an open group now also that United lost. I see them as Spurs (my team). Can beat the big teams, play like crazy, but as soon as they are the favorites you never know how the game will go.
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November 05, 2020, 09:47:51 AM
Yesterday Sevilla almost losing me a multibet but luckily they were able to win the match from 0 - 2 behind. I have not watch any of the match but since I had a multibet with 7 teams, I had an eye on the scores. After conceding 2 goals and then a red card, the hope was thin and I decided not to follow Sevilla match anymore but after 80 minutes when I checked the scores I was like WTF LOL

Does anyone have any analysis about the Europa matches today?


My first win of the season although its was nerve racking because sevilla went down to an early two goals which was shocking after the poor showing of krasnorda defence and goal keeper against chelsea.  But they did it with a man down, narrowly escaped paris saint german after changing my mind and playing them over 2.5 rather than away win again RB liepzig, manchester united again still lost, its now two in two games.
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