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Quote from: meser# on November 30, 2023, 02:59:28 PM

I didn't expect such a bad result for Beşiktaş, I thought they would score at least one goal, but they didn't almost even manage to make position for that. Brugge almost converted half of their shots into goals and our guys didn't score.

At least all my hopes on Fenerbahce, I hope they will get a good result and put a smile on our faces.

The Europa conference league is also a major league for some clubs, they're ready to fight to very end for the purpose to ensure they scratch the surfaces of the league. These Turkish clubs are already proving to be promising and focusing on good positions in the league. I'm watching closely on Beşiktaş and Fenerbahçe stats, they're improving to become one of the very best teams. All teams do actually dissapoints their supporters in league matches this season. Beşiktaş are elite but they declined in performance in one of these season but it doesn't mean they won't be able to bounce back, ofcourse they will in estimated period of time.

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Quote from: sokani on November 30, 2023, 03:14:05 PM

Quote from: meser# on November 30, 2023, 02:59:28 PM

I didn't expect such a bad result for Beşiktaş, I thought they would score at least one goal, but they didn't almost even manage to make position for that. Brugge almost converted half of their shots into goals and our guys didn't score.

I'm not surprised Club Brugge won the game, they've been fantastic in the tournament, but Besiktas getting thrashed at home was quite unexpected. Another lackluster display as their woes continue, they've played 5 games with no win and tonight's defeat confirms their exit from the tournament.

Me neither i didn't surprise I was hopeful but my mind told me don't be so naive after first minutes passed Cheesy

In this season unfortunatelly Beşiktaş really in bad shape and we already lost our hope to first 2 in our league.

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Quote from: meser# on November 30, 2023, 02:59:28 PM

I didn't expect such a bad result for Beşiktaş, I thought they would score at least one goal, but they didn't almost even manage to make position for that. Brugge almost converted half of their shots into goals and our guys didn't score.

I'm not surprised Club Brugge won the game, they've been fantastic in the tournament, but Besiktas getting thrashed at home by 5 unreplied goals was quite unexpected. Another lackluster display as their woes continue, they've played 5 games with no win and tonight's defeat confirms their exit from the tournament.

Another interesting match is Aston villa vs Legia Warszawa, both have the same point but Legia Warszawa tops the table with a goal difference. A win will determine who's going finish on top of the table.

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I didn't expect such a bad result for Beşiktaş, I thought they would score at least one goal, but they didn't almost even manage to make position for that. Brugge almost converted half of their shots into goals and our guys didn't score.

At least all my hopes on Fenerbahce, I hope they will get a good result and put a smile on our faces.

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The matches in Group D have been completed.Today's matches were full of goals.We saw 5 goals or more in the matches.Our representative Beşiktaş lost 5-0 to Club Brugge at home and suffered a very heavy defeat.I did not expect this match to end like this.
Bodo Glimt, on the other hand, managed to defeat Lugano 5-2 at home.The first half ended 1-0 and there were 6 goals in the second half.Lugano has no chance of getting out of the group after this defeat.Bodo Glimt and Club Brugge have guaranteed to get out of the group with these results.

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Quote from: Gencecikmen on November 30, 2023, 01:30:29 PM

The fifth matches of the group stages of the UEFA Conference League are played tonight. Our representatives Beşiktaş and Fenerbahçe will face against their rivals. I prefer to watch Beşiktaş match. The first half of the Beşiktaş-Club Brugge match continues. Club Brugge is leading 2-0.

Beşiktaş's starting XI against Club Brugge: Ersin, Tayfur, Onur, Colley, Zaynutdinov, Salih, Ege, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Cenk, Aboubakar, Rebic.

Club Brugget's starting XI against Beşiktaş :Mignolet, Odoi, Mechele, Spileers, Olsen, Onyedika, Vetlesen, Nielsen, De Cuyper, Thiago, Zinckernagel.

The injuries of Beşiktaş's defenders caused the team to lose very easily. Omar Colley is very ineffective as a defender. Unfortunately, Beşiktaş started the second half by conceding a goal and the match is now 3-0. Coach Rıza tries everything in defense, but it really is not that difficult to find the right choice.

The defense is really falling apart, I hope Beşiktaş will have a chance to recover, but it seems difficult with this defense.

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Quote from: Gencecikmen on November 30, 2023, 01:30:29 PM

The fifth matches of the group stages of the UEFA Conference League are played tonight. Our representatives Beşiktaş and Fenerbahçe will face against their rivals. I prefer to watch Beşiktaş match. The first half of the Beşiktaş-Club Brugge match continues. Club Brugge is leading 2-0.

Beşiktaş's starting XI against Club Brugge: Ersin, Tayfur, Onur, Colley, Zaynutdinov, Salih, Ege, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Cenk, Aboubakar, Rebic.

Club Brugget's starting XI against Beşiktaş :Mignolet, Odoi, Mechele, Spileers, Olsen, Onyedika, Vetlesen, Nielsen, De Cuyper, Thiago, Zinckernagel.

Beşiktaş-Club Brugge's first half ended with 0-2 score. Unfortunatelly our represantative Beşiktaş couldn't say stop to their bad performance and results. There is no hope for this team on this season in the europe nor in the super league. But on the other hand I'm believing our other represantative Fenerbahçe will get the victory.

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The fifth matches of the group stages of the UEFA Conference League are played tonight. Our representatives Beşiktaş and Fenerbahçe will face against their rivals. I prefer to watch Beşiktaş match. The first half of the Beşiktaş-Club Brugge match continues. Club Brugge is leading 2-0.

Beşiktaş's starting XI against Club Brugge: Ersin, Tayfur, Onur, Colley, Zaynutdinov, Salih, Ege, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Cenk, Aboubakar, Rebic.

Club Brugget's starting XI against Beşiktaş :Mignolet, Odoi, Mechele, Spileers, Olsen, Onyedika, Vetlesen, Nielsen, De Cuyper, Thiago, Zinckernagel.

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Quote from: bitgolden on November 17, 2023, 03:36:45 PM

Quote from: temple on November 17, 2023, 02:57:49 AM

I think what is really bad about their performance in the Conference League and what really nobody saw coming are the two losses in their home games because the teams from Turkey often have the most passionate fans out there and it is very uncomfortable to play away against them. Losing two out of three home games actually meant that this competition is over for them.

Conference league is not an easy one, the teams may have a huge gap, there are some teams with just a few million dollars value and some with tens of even hundreds of millions, but that doesn't change the fact that these teams are not star teams, not UCL level teams, not the big clubs of the world, they are still close to each other.

Valuation of the players only matters based on how they play, and when you look at a club that has a 20 million dollar player who hasn't scored any goals all year and hasn't played all that well, you think does he really worth 20 million? Whereas some other club has a 350k striker who scored 4 so far. That's the point, you do not know who could do best here, it's all a guess work. In the end though, when it comes to finals and not group matches, things could be different.

Yes I agree and I think some of the teams that qualify for the Europa League when they come from rather unknown leagues or less popular leagues, the Conference League is still a big deal for them and it is always hard to win against an underdog team that is fighting as if it was the most important game in their life. This is why we also see these surprises in the national cups like the FA Cup. It seems to be an easy win for one team, but for the other team it means the world. But I still think that there are some names that have a history in European football already. I admit that I don't really follow the Conference League though.

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Quote from: temple on November 17, 2023, 02:57:49 AM

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I knew Beşiktaş would lose, my favorite was Bodo/Glimt.

Fenerbahçe lost, I honestly didn't expect it, it was an easy win for Ludogorest.
I hope Fenerbahçe won't continue like this because we have high hopes for them in the Conference League.

Yes indeed, Besiktas has been very bad so far in the Conference League because Besiktas is also one of the teams that does not have a winning result in this group stage. Thus, Besiktas defeat by Bodo/Glimt is no longer a surprise, because in their first match or in their first meeting in this group stage too, the fact that Besiktas lost by Bodo/Glimt . But, although Besiktas and Fenerbahce come from the same league and country, bu their performance in this Conference League is very different. Because anyway, at this moment also the fact that Fenerbahce has good dominance in the Turkish Super Lig, so it is not surprising that Fenerbache managed to come in first place in group H this time.

Frankly, I expected a similar performance from Beşiktaş, but they showed a very different performance from Fenerbahçe. Beşiktaş even lost to Lugano. Lugano was considered the weakest team in the group, but at this stage Beşiktaş is in last place in the group. While I was expecting a leadership fight between Club Brugge and Beşiktaş, Beşiktaş finished last in the group.

I think what is really bad about their performance in the Conference League and what really nobody saw coming are the two losses in their home games because the teams from Turkey often have the most passionate fans out there and it is very uncomfortable to play away against them. Losing two out of three home games actually meant that this competition is over for them.

Conference league is not an easy one, the teams may have a huge gap, there are some teams with just a few million dollars value and some with tens of even hundreds of millions, but that doesn't change the fact that these teams are not star teams, not UCL level teams, not the big clubs of the world, they are still close to each other.

Valuation of the players only matters based on how they play, and when you look at a club that has a 20 million dollar player who hasn't scored any goals all year and hasn't played all that well, you think does he really worth 20 million? Whereas some other club has a 350k striker who scored 4 so far. That's the point, you do not know who could do best here, it's all a guess work. In the end though, when it comes to finals and not group matches, things could be different.

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Quote from: Silence Scream on November 15, 2023, 01:18:24 PM

Quote from: hahay on November 15, 2023, 11:57:34 AM

Quote from: MK-74 on November 10, 2023, 12:38:55 AM

I knew Beşiktaş would lose, my favorite was Bodo/Glimt.

Fenerbahçe lost, I honestly didn't expect it, it was an easy win for Ludogorest.
I hope Fenerbahçe won't continue like this because we have high hopes for them in the Conference League.

Yes indeed, Besiktas has been very bad so far in the Conference League because Besiktas is also one of the teams that does not have a winning result in this group stage. Thus, Besiktas defeat by Bodo/Glimt is no longer a surprise, because in their first match or in their first meeting in this group stage too, the fact that Besiktas lost by Bodo/Glimt . But, although Besiktas and Fenerbahce come from the same league and country, bu their performance in this Conference League is very different. Because anyway, at this moment also the fact that Fenerbahce has good dominance in the Turkish Super Lig, so it is not surprising that Fenerbache managed to come in first place in group H this time.

Frankly, I expected a similar performance from Beşiktaş, but they showed a very different performance from Fenerbahçe. Beşiktaş even lost to Lugano. Lugano was considered the weakest team in the group, but at this stage Beşiktaş is in last place in the group. While I was expecting a leadership fight between Club Brugge and Beşiktaş, Beşiktaş finished last in the group.

I think what is really bad about their performance in the Conference League and what really nobody saw coming are the two losses in their home games because the teams from Turkey often have the most passionate fans out there and it is very uncomfortable to play away against them. Losing two out of three home games actually meant that this competition is over for them.

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Quote from: hahay on November 15, 2023, 11:57:34 AM

Quote from: MK-74 on November 10, 2023, 12:38:55 AM

I knew Beşiktaş would lose, my favorite was Bodo/Glimt.

Fenerbahçe lost, I honestly didn't expect it, it was an easy win for Ludogorest.
I hope Fenerbahçe won't continue like this because we have high hopes for them in the Conference League.

Yes indeed, Besiktas has been very bad so far in the Conference League because Besiktas is also one of the teams that does not have a winning result in this group stage. Thus, Besiktas defeat by Bodo/Glimt is no longer a surprise, because in their first match or in their first meeting in this group stage too, the fact that Besiktas lost by Bodo/Glimt . But, although Besiktas and Fenerbahce come from the same league and country, bu their performance in this Conference League is very different. Because anyway, at this moment also the fact that Fenerbahce has good dominance in the Turkish Super Lig, so it is not surprising that Fenerbache managed to come in first place in group H this time.

Frankly, I expected a similar performance from Beşiktaş, but they showed a very different performance from Fenerbahçe. Beşiktaş even lost to Lugano. Lugano was considered the weakest team in the group, but at this stage Beşiktaş is in last place in the group. While I was expecting a leadership fight between Club Brugge and Beşiktaş, Beşiktaş finished last in the group.

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Quote from: MK-74 on November 10, 2023, 12:38:55 AM

I knew Beşiktaş would lose, my favorite was Bodo/Glimt.

Fenerbahçe lost, I honestly didn't expect it, it was an easy win for Ludogorest.
I hope Fenerbahçe won't continue like this because we have high hopes for them in the Conference League.

Yes indeed, Besiktas has been very bad so far in the Conference League because Besiktas is also one of the teams that does not have a winning result in this group stage. Thus, Besiktas defeat by Bodo/Glimt is no longer a surprise, because in their first match or in their first meeting in this group stage too, the fact that Besiktas lost by Bodo/Glimt . But, although Besiktas and Fenerbahce come from the same league and country, bu their performance in this Conference League is very different. Because anyway, at this moment also the fact that Fenerbahce has good dominance in the Turkish Super Lig, so it is not surprising that Fenerbache managed to come in first place in group H this time.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on November 13, 2023, 02:00:18 PM

I think that the thing Fenerbahce have achieved so far is still very impressive. They are just having some drop in their form lately but it is totally normal for every team. Because even for top European teams winning every single game isn't sustainable. Fenerbahce must have won around 20 games I guess until finally losing points in a Turkish Super League game a couple of weeks ago.

I'm still seeing Fenerbahce among the top contenders for the Europa Conference League title honestly. I know there will be more teams to come from the Europa League which might change the direction of the title also.

But for now the teams I see as real competition for Fenerbahce are Aston Villa, Frankfurt and Fiorentina (which played in the finale of the ECL last season also).

I wouldn't call it a drop in form because that sounds as if it is a prolonged problem. But if they can win their next games again and also don't start a losing stream in the Turkish league, they will be doing ok.

In the Conference League their goal should still be to win the group, but the prospects are very strong for them as they have the upper hand against Ludogorets with the direct comparison as they have a much better goal difference.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on November 13, 2023, 02:00:18 PM

I think that the thing Fenerbahce have achieved so far is still very impressive. They are just having some drop in their form lately but it is totally normal for every team. Because even for top European teams winning every single game isn't sustainable. Fenerbahce must have won around 20 games I guess until finally losing points in a Turkish Super League game a couple of weeks ago.

I'm still seeing Fenerbahce among the top contenders for the Europa Conference League title honestly. I know there will be more teams to come from the Europa League which might change the direction of the title also.

But for now the teams I see as real competition for Fenerbahce are Aston Villa, Frankfurt and Fiorentina (which played in the finale of the ECL last season also).

There are also main competitiors for the Conference League trophy, we should sits in positions were brilliant results doesn't shocked us just as the rest. For illustration, Fenerbahçe recent defeat was hugh surprise for everyone because they couldn't believe their eyes. Fenerbahçe will mount on to the next opponents, already secured significant points which makes them rank top. Fenerbahçe will definitely qualify for the next round because they've fought so hard to accumulate important points this season. Fenerbahçe have declined heavily regarding performance, and they're having balance to bounce back to big games, all matters within the estimated range of time.

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I think that the thing Fenerbahce have achieved so far is still very impressive. They are just having some drop in their form lately but it is totally normal for every team. Because even for top European teams winning every single game isn't sustainable. Fenerbahce must have won around 20 games I guess until finally losing points in a Turkish Super League game a couple of weeks ago.

I'm still seeing Fenerbahce among the top contenders for the Europa Conference League title honestly. I know there will be more teams to come from the Europa League which might change the direction of the title also.

But for now the teams I see as real competition for Fenerbahce are Aston Villa, Frankfurt and Fiorentina (which played in the finale of the ECL last season also).

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Quote from: arimamib on November 13, 2023, 12:21:49 PM

Fenerbahçe have improved massively this season. they are so well-prepared to play in europe while also doing very well in the league. This is not a surprise. after experiencing bad years, they were rebuilding the team with a very well-planned and good project for future.

Nothing makes a team feel better to bouncing back to form after experiencing a bad time or a bad season. Sometimes it also takes failures to achieve success as if failure is not encountered, success wouldn't be appreciated. Fenerbehce have been a wonderful club in Turkey super lig and their performance so far can attest to that.

Quote from: arimamib on November 13, 2023, 12:21:49 PM

the result in the last game give them warning that they need to focus at maintaining their form time to time remembering the quality of squad they have is good enough to compete for trophy. they cant have more points dropped off like this. or else, it would affect their mentality to stay competing at the top throughout the season remembering Galatasaray are a tough team who are also in a good form.

Coming back from a flop is good as fenerbehce doesn't want to lose chances anymore hence their eagerness to do much better, fenerbehce is a nice club and I believe they will perform much better in their upcoming matches.

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Quote from: SUPERSAIAN on October 27, 2023, 06:24:20 AM

Win after win from Fenerbahçe, they are doing a really good job in the conference league this season. After a few bad years, Fenerbahçe has a very different squad this season. I hope this group can go much further. Things are very difficult for Beşiktaş, they don't have much of a chance in the group anyway, when I looked at their progress this season, I didn't give them much of a chance.

Batshuhai scored the first goal as soon as he had the first opportunity. By the way, I think Fenerbahçe was on a bad day, they could have played a much better game.

Fenerbahçe have improved massively this season. they are so well-prepared to play in europe while also doing very well in the league. This is not a surprise. after experiencing bad years, they were rebuilding the team with a very well-planned and good project for future.

the result in the last game give them warning that they need to focus at maintaining their form time to time remembering the quality of squad they have is good enough to compete for trophy. they cant have more points dropped off like this. or else, it would affect their mentality to stay competing at the top throughout the season remembering Galatasaray are a tough team who are also in a good form.

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Two losses in a row for Fenerbahce one in turkish league and one in europe and things might take a really bad turn for them if they continue like this. From a perfect season to losing against one of the weakest teams in the group. I had my money on Fenerbahce so really dissapointed at how they played tonight.

Well two losses is what is needed to wreck this season is only the temporary picture we may have. Of course a flawless record looks like the only way to perfection, but if Fenerbahce can shake off these two bad games and start winning again, this can still be a perfect season. Their position in both the Turkish league and the Europa League is still good and everything is possible for them. It's almost inevitable to have some games where the results do not reflect the performance or when they performance was simply not as good.

Surprise results seem common in Conference League these last two match days and Fenerbahce was one of such teams yesterday that probably made many people lose a lot of money.However as you say not all is lost because there is still time to recover in both competitions where in Conference League it would be much easier I think as this group most likely permit Fenerbahce to have the luxury of losing a game like they did yesterday and still be able to qualify further which I find it the most likely thing to happen.

In Turkish league it is becoming increasing difficult with Galatasaray being in a super red hot form that I find it difficult Fenerbahce to have a chance here.

And this is how quickly the dynamics can change and Fenerbahce continued their negative results with a draw in the league as well. I think sometimes these impressive results in the home leagues can be a bit misleading because it is easy to think that they will simply continue that trend. Ludogorets is also a team that is not that well known and hence people think this was supposed to be an easy one for Fenerbahce, but quite the opposite turned out to be true. But Fenerbahce is still fine as they also won the head to head in the group against Ludogorets.

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Well, conference league was getting nearer to group stages so these unexpected results were bound to happen. Same with UCL and europa too, look at how Liverpool ended up losing to tolouse as well, nobody expected that, when teams are getting near that "guaranteed to go up" levels, they start to care a lot less and they go out with their bench players and that is when the other team, even though they are worse, end up going against them with their starting team and this results with the better team to lose because the yare not playing with their main players.

I think it is sad that we end up losing because of that, but there is nothing to do about it, we just have to accept that football has something like this we have to accept. Hopefully it could reach to a point where we could see some more domination from the favorite games next games around so that we could make some money, I did lose, but I am fine with it, the first three games were easy wins.

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