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Quote from: Lida93 on October 02, 2024, 12:58:54 PM

Quote from: Egii Nna on August 30, 2024, 03:25:52 PM

Chelsea performance was not encouraging at all because if not for the fight leg that they had a win, I don’t think it will be a nice turn up for them because I already have hope on them that they will win that game yesterday, but when I start seeing the way they are playing, I completely lose hope on them, and they still end up losing the game, but thanks to the victory in the first leg that still makes them lead.

Even though we also want to see Chelsea with a trophy, it seems like they are not ready this season also because their performances are dangling. They will play a good performance and still play a poor performance, so I don’t think they will still do something tangible this season again, but let's still put eyes on them if they will do something tangible.

The inconsistent form of the Chelsea football club could be attributed to the emergence of the new coach who came onboard this season and ever since have been trying to get things right. So far they have been able to get some important wins which places them above teams like Manchester united and Tottenham and only need to improve more and win more games so as to secure a place in European competition next season.

They is one fact about Chelsea, which I can still believe is that even though they have an inconsistent performance, they will do a better performance this season, that make me sure that their performance will be more better than Manchester United and Tottenham. Because if you make some bow on that game that they are presently playing at premier league you will have the hope that they will be able to achieve the trophy in European competition but we can still have a fully assurance on them because anything is capable of happening and we can’t tell so we just still have to put eyes on them.

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Quote from: Egii Nna on August 30, 2024, 03:25:52 PM

Chelsea performance was not encouraging at all because if not for the fight leg that they had a win, I don’t think it will be a nice turn up for them because I already have hope on them that they will win that game yesterday, but when I start seeing the way they are playing, I completely lose hope on them, and they still end up losing the game, but thanks to the victory in the first leg that still makes them lead.

Even though we also want to see Chelsea with a trophy, it seems like they are not ready this season also because their performances are dangling. They will play a good performance and still play a poor performance, so I don’t think they will still do something tangible this season again, but let's still put eyes on them if they will do something tangible.

The inconsistent form of the Chelsea football club could be attributed to the emergence of the new coach who came onboard this season and ever since have been trying to get things right. So far they have been able to get some important wins which places them above teams like Manchester united and Tottenham and only need to improve more and win more games so as to secure a place in European competition next season.

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Quote from: joniboini on October 02, 2024, 12:59:50 AM

Quote from: slaman29 on September 27, 2024, 06:31:34 AM

I was looking for this and thinking they might be some games but I saw now they start so late! And together with Champions League games too whaaaat? How can people watch Conference when the best games are also playing. UEFA must knew this already.

Yeah, the scheduling is a bit weird. I'm surprised they can make a deal with broadcasters when the kick-off time is near with the higher-tier competition. Maybe they expect fans to watch this match and ignore other competitions? I wonder how they make money from this, considering so many moves have been geared toward this goal recently.

As a neutral football fan, I'd watch the Conference League if other competitions were not live. I'm sure most pundits that I've watched share the same opinion. Some of them explicitly said they only watched highlights because so many matches were happening at the same time.

Different broadcasters I guess and the ones who only sort of cater to club fans and diehard supporters. I mean, honestly even if Barca ever relegated I would watch them even over Champions League. I know a guy who watched and even paid to see Leeds for a long time even when it was way more expensive than even EPL match packages.

I would probably choose Conference over Champions League only if there was more at stake, this is probably gonna be in final league games. Depending on who is comfortable and who is not.

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Quote from: joniboini on October 02, 2024, 12:59:50 AM

Quote from: slaman29 on September 27, 2024, 06:31:34 AM

I was looking for this and thinking they might be some games but I saw now they start so late! And together with Champions League games too whaaaat? How can people watch Conference when the best games are also playing. UEFA must knew this already.

Yeah, the scheduling is a bit weird. I'm surprised they can make a deal with broadcasters when the kick-off time is near with the higher-tier competition. Maybe they expect fans to watch this match and ignore other competitions? I wonder how they make money from this, considering so many moves have been geared toward this goal recently.

As a neutral football fan, I'd watch the Conference League if other competitions were not live. I'm sure most pundits that I've watched share the same opinion. Some of them explicitly said they only watched highlights because so many matches were happening at the same time.

And really surprised that most of this organizer are not thinking, how do they expect footballing fan to leave watching the uefa champions league and pay more attention to the UEFA conference league? This is just not crazy but it's actually a stupid idea to fix both competition on the say day when they know very well that most football fans would prefer watching the uefa champions league to the conference league, let's just look how it goes, because as to me, am not interested in watching the conference league when champions league is going on.

Quote from: Hirose UK on October 01, 2024, 10:37:15 PM

-snip- dark horses here such as Chelsea, Fiorentina and Real Betis.

Then talking about Chelsea in the uefa conference league, I actually thinks they are the favourite here because I don't think fiorentina and real betis has what it takes to topple Chelsea if they meet in the later stage of the competition.

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Quote from: slaman29 on September 27, 2024, 06:31:34 AM

I was looking for this and thinking they might be some games but I saw now they start so late! And together with Champions League games too whaaaat? How can people watch Conference when the best games are also playing. UEFA must knew this already.

Yeah, the scheduling is a bit weird. I'm surprised they can make a deal with broadcasters when the kick-off time is near with the higher-tier competition. Maybe they expect fans to watch this match and ignore other competitions? I wonder how they make money from this, considering so many moves have been geared toward this goal recently.

As a neutral football fan, I'd watch the Conference League if other competitions were not live. I'm sure most pundits that I've watched share the same opinion. Some of them explicitly said they only watched highlights because so many matches were happening at the same time.

Quote from: Hirose UK on October 01, 2024, 10:37:15 PM

-snip- dark horses here such as Chelsea, Fiorentina and Real Betis.

Judging by how well they play in the Premier League, I think Chelsea is one of the favorites.

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Quote from: CLS63 on October 01, 2024, 04:02:15 PM

The team worth difference isn't actually that big. There is a gap around like €15m. Besides Başakşehir have a more valuable squad maybe but it really doesn't prove anything. It is all about showing a good performance as a team. Were Başakşehir impressive until this phase? I don't think so. Sad

But this is a common thing for Turkish teams. They mess up when they open the season early. I hope Başakşehir can have a good start with a win tomorrow.

They're have advantage because they will play in their home and Rapid Wien currently lost many players due to injuries. Basaksehir should able to win this match.

Honestly it's hard to value their strength because they're rarely meet up together because they not always participate in International competition. And they're not an amateur too, so they might not score many goals.

Betting in this league is completely gambling for me.

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Quote from: MK-74 on October 01, 2024, 04:35:58 AM

Başakşehir FK will play Rapid Vienna in Istanbul tomorrow. It will be one of the first matches of the Conference League.
Başakşehir FK has a better quality squad.
Rapid Vienna is playing well, they are currently in second place in their own league.
I hope Başakşehir FK wins tomorrow and starts the Conference League with a win.

Indeed, in today match, Istanbul BB against Rapid Vienna is the opening match or the first match for the Conference League in the first round in new format that makes each team compete for position to determine who will qualify for the next round.
In this match, Istanbul BB is also favored not only in terms of playing quality but they are also playing at home so it will be very possible for Istanbul BB to win, I sure Istanbul BB can still beat Rapid Vienna because Rapid Vienna game in the Europa League qualifying round was also not that impressive.
It just that for this season Conference League, Istanbul BB will definitely have difficulty continuing to compete until they can really reach the semifinals or even compete for the title because there are several teams that are dark horses here such as Chelsea, Fiorentina and Real Betis.

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Quote from: MK-74 on October 01, 2024, 04:35:58 AM

Başakşehir FK will play Rapid Vienna in Istanbul tomorrow. It will be one of the first matches of the Conference League.
Başakşehir FK has a better quality squad.
Rapid Vienna is playing well, they are currently in second place in their own league.
I hope Başakşehir FK wins tomorrow and starts the Conference League with a win.

The team worth difference isn't actually that big. There is a gap around like €15m. Besides Başakşehir have a more valuable squad maybe but it really doesn't prove anything. It is all about showing a good performance as a team. Were Başakşehir impressive until this phase? I don't think so. Sad

But this is a common thing for Turkish teams. They mess up when they open the season early. I hope Başakşehir can have a good start with a win tomorrow.

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Quote from: Marvelockg on October 01, 2024, 04:53:27 AM

just checking the list of teams in the conference leagues makes it really funny to find yourself playing in the team and what happens if you don't win? Chelsea Looks really odd and lonely amongst these teams. Playing with almost all the teams that are coming into the game as an underdog will be demanding and a tough one for the Chelsea team. You've got big teams in all the other tournaments they are featured in which makes it practically difficult to win against these teams that are all at the peak of thier form as it stands and aren't ready to bring down thier display at all.

Most gamblers won't even bet on most of these games because they are of leagues that are not popular and the only reason why it's gaining attention is because a premier league team plays in the tournament

Well I wouldn't exactly say super lonely and alone, but yes most of the clubs are worthy of their position, I think Manchester United better fits this category than Chelsea, but we also have respectable teams like Fiorentina, Betis, Copenhagen, Gent, Rapid, these have recently played Champions League, so it's okay

Gamblers will bet just on those teams alone, you shouldn't underestimate what it means to be playing in this kinda cup. Roma fans remember!

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Quote from: slaman29 on September 27, 2024, 06:31:34 AM

I was looking for this and thinking they might be some games but I saw now they start so late! And together with Champions League games too whaaaat? How can people watch Conference when the best games are also playing. UEFA must knew this already.

Chelsea v Gent, pick of the first League Phase game or? I mean, it's the only trophy they can win (rest they must meet City or Arsenal and lose).

just checking the list of teams in the conference leagues makes it really funny to find yourself playing in the team and what happens if you don't win? Chelsea Looks really odd and lonely amongst these teams. Playing with almost all the teams that are coming into the game as an underdog will be demanding and a tough one for the Chelsea team. You've got big teams in all the other tournaments they are featured in which makes it practically difficult to win against these teams that are all at the peak of thier form as it stands and aren't ready to bring down thier display at all.

Most gamblers won't even bet on most of these games because they are of leagues that are not popular and the only reason why it's gaining attention is because a premier league team plays in the tournament

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Başakşehir FK will play Rapid Vienna in Istanbul tomorrow. It will be one of the first matches of the Conference League.
Başakşehir FK has a better quality squad.
Rapid Vienna is playing well, they are currently in second place in their own league.
I hope Başakşehir FK wins tomorrow and starts the Conference League with a win.

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Quote from: Akbarkoe on September 27, 2024, 07:05:47 AM

Quote from: Franctoshi on September 05, 2024, 11:14:06 AM

Quote from: Stepstowealth on September 04, 2024, 06:41:33 PM

I think it is too early to judge how Chelsea will perform in the Conference League because so far they still remain the favorites to win the competition. They have the team that can do it, It is just the coach that is hoped on as someone that will be able to manage the players together to get the results desired by owner of club and supporters. The coach has shown some signs of tactical brilliance, he will mature more into the role with the more opportunity that he gets to play, and luckily for him, he has a team he can rotate.

Having the EUFA conference League cup being the only European competition where Chelsea happened to find themselves into, I doubt if another club will be able to take this trophy away from their hands. Chelsea is a team that doesn't joke with any trophy competition where they're very much aware that they're the most likely team to be the winner, especially now that the Chelsea's team has a bit been stepped up with newly signed players like Joao Felix, Sancho, no team would muscle them out easily.

Although like that it does not rule out the possibility of other teams to win in this league, seeing Real Betis, Heidenheim, Fiorentina and Copenhagen is also not a team that can be underestimated here, they have talented talents, even though I like how Palmer plays there but we have to see With open eyes, because Chelsea sometimes also make mistakes that make them unable to play the match well.

The above clubs mentioned might be considered a threat on their respective leagues but i doubt if we should add Chelsea to the list. In the recent games played by Chelsea, i believe there has been an upgrade and the team seems to be getting a lot better. If we do want to compare, Chelsea already suffered with loosing some games and points and now are too sensitive to give out any. Chelsea's addition of players now brightens the team performance, clearly we can keep Chelsea as the most favorite to win the Conference League.

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Quote from: Franctoshi on September 05, 2024, 11:14:06 AM

Quote from: Stepstowealth on September 04, 2024, 06:41:33 PM

I think it is too early to judge how Chelsea will perform in the Conference League because so far they still remain the favorites to win the competition. They have the team that can do it, It is just the coach that is hoped on as someone that will be able to manage the players together to get the results desired by owner of club and supporters. The coach has shown some signs of tactical brilliance, he will mature more into the role with the more opportunity that he gets to play, and luckily for him, he has a team he can rotate.

Having the EUFA conference League cup being the only European competition where Chelsea happened to find themselves into, I doubt if another club will be able to take this trophy away from their hands. Chelsea is a team that doesn't joke with any trophy competition where they're very much aware that they're the most likely team to be the winner, especially now that the Chelsea's team has a bit been stepped up with newly signed players like Joao Felix, Sancho, no team would muscle them out easily.

Although like that it does not rule out the possibility of other teams to win in this league, seeing Real Betis, Heidenheim, Fiorentina and Copenhagen is also not a team that can be underestimated here, they have talented talents, even though I like how Palmer plays there but we have to see With open eyes, because Chelsea sometimes also make mistakes that make them unable to play the match well.

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I was looking for this and thinking they might be some games but I saw now they start so late! And together with Champions League games too whaaaat? How can people watch Conference when the best games are also playing. UEFA must knew this already.

Chelsea v Gent, pick of the first League Phase game or? I mean, it's the only trophy they can win (rest they must meet City or Arsenal and lose).

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I wish we had 5 Turkish teams in European tournaments this season. But Trabzonspor failed to qualify for league phase because of their really poor performance. I wanted this for country coefficient as I said before. Our league can get more quota to join these tournaments directly. We have only Başakşehir competing in the Conference League and the rest are in the Europa League. I didn't like Başakşehir's game previously so they might also get eliminated like Trabzonspor. Sad

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on August 29, 2024, 02:35:11 PM

The match between Servette vs Chelsea caught my attention today, the first half has passed and both teams have only played a draw while Chelsea still lead with an aggregate of 1-3 well, I don't know if Chelsea will play in a serious mode because they have won in the first leg so actually Chelsea just need a draw today, will they maintain the current score? What is clear is that Chelsea will not take any risks and I know they can control the rhythm of the game, just look at the first half they controlled the match up to 72%

Chelsea team could not win this match and match was ended with draw and we were expecting that Chelsea football team will change the match and match will be towards the Chelsea team . But no man can hit well in the second half and we saw only one goal by Jacksonwho did first goal at 25 minutes after starting the match and after that we saw a silence in the match and nobody could do goal for 28 minutes and after that we saw second goal of the match and that goal was from E. Eze and he saved his team from lose , otherwise the team of Chelsea was victorious in this match. Chelsea shots were good and that were more in number and shots on target was also good.

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Quote from: Stepstowealth on September 04, 2024, 06:41:33 PM

Quote from: Egii Nna on August 30, 2024, 03:25:52 PM

Even though we also want to see Chelsea with a trophy, it seems like they are not ready this season also because their performances are dangling. They will play a good performance and still play a poor performance, so I don’t think they will still do something tangible this season again, but let's still put eyes on them if they will do something tangible.

I think it is too early to judge how Chelsea will perform in the Conference League because so far they still remain the favorites to win the competition. They have the team that can do it, It is just the coach that is hoped on as someone that will be able to manage the players together to get the results desired by owner of club and supporters. The coach has shown some signs of tactical brilliance, he will mature more into the role with the more opportunity that he gets to play, and luckily for him, he has a team he can rotate.

Having the EUFA conference League cup being the only European competition where Chelsea happened to find themselves into, I doubt if another club will be able to take this trophy away from their hands. Chelsea is a team that doesn't joke with any trophy competition where they're very much aware that they're the most likely team to be the winner, especially now that the Chelsea's team has a bit been stepped up with newly signed players like Joao Felix, Sancho, no team would muscle them out easily.

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Quote from: Stepstowealth on September 04, 2024, 06:41:33 PM

Quote from: Egii Nna on August 30, 2024, 03:25:52 PM

Even though we also want to see Chelsea with a trophy, it seems like they are not ready this season also because their performances are dangling. They will play a good performance and still play a poor performance, so I don’t think they will still do something tangible this season again, but let's still put eyes on them if they will do something tangible.

I think it is too early to judge how Chelsea will perform in the Conference League because so far they still remain the favorites to win the competition. They have the team that can do it, It is just the coach that is hoped on as someone that will be able to manage the players together to get the results desired by owner of club and supporters. The coach has shown some signs of tactical brilliance, he will mature more into the role with the more opportunity that he gets to play, and luckily for him, he has a team he can rotate.

and talking about chelsea and he has a team that he can rotate. It seems that the Conference League is not Chelsea's main objective, they are looking at this league as something that could create injuries to their players and harm them in the Premier League, I came to this conclusion because I read news that Chelsea will not put Cole Palmer and other players to play in the Conference League, you can see this news in more detail here

Quote from: https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1831691437215277458

Chelsea confirm squad for next stage of Conference League.

Wesley Fofana, Cole Palmer and also Romeo Lavia have been left out.

Decision taken due to load management as Chelsea season could go on until July 2025 with Club’s World Cup too.

source: https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1831691437215277458

2 days ago they signed Jadon Sancho

Quote from: https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1830949410252976208

Chelsea confirm Jadon Sancho to train with Enzo Maresca and his staff during international break.

He’s already in good shape and ready for debut as #CFC player vs Bournemouth, end of next week.

source: https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1830949410252976208

This season Chelsea spent more money than other teams:

Quote from: https://football-observatory.com/WeeklyPost470

Costliest squads: Chelsea breaks all records

The 470th CIES Football Observatory Weekly Post presents the 100 teams in the world having committed the most money in transfer fees to recruit their current squad members (both permanently or on loan). Chelsea tops the list with €1.28 billion including add-ons (regardless of their actual payment) and €1.15 billion without them. These are the highest values ever recorded (see last year's rankings).

Manchester City and Manchester United complete the podium, with amounts including add-ons also in excess of €1 billion. Sixth with €772 million, Paris St-Germain is the only non-English team in the top seven. The French outfit ranks just behind Arsenal (€798 m) and Tottenham (€787m), while outranking Liverpool (€735m). Real Madrid (€720m) and Juventus (€626m) are the only other non-Premier League clubs in the top 10.

Al-Hilal (€485m, 13th) are first among non-big 5 league teams, ahead of three other Saudi Arabia's clubs: Al-Nassr (€270m), Al-Ittihad (€226m) and Al-Ahli (€224m). Flamengo (€208m) clearly outranks Botafogo (€85m) and Palmeiras (€77m) for South America. In total, 19 countries are represented in the top 100, with a maximum of 24 clubs for England (the 20 Premier League sides and four teams from the Championship).

source: https://football-observatory.com/WeeklyPost470

I wonder how they will manage so many players, they should take the Conference League very seriously, because winning this competition would earn them money, and it is true that the amount earned by winning the Europa League is not much money compared to the amount of money they spent, but at least they would be recovering a little and would also give a trophy to the fans instead of spending a lot of money without winning anything.

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Quote from: Egii Nna on August 30, 2024, 03:25:52 PM

Even though we also want to see Chelsea with a trophy, it seems like they are not ready this season also because their performances are dangling. They will play a good performance and still play a poor performance, so I don’t think they will still do something tangible this season again, but let's still put eyes on them if they will do something tangible.

I think it is too early to judge how Chelsea will perform in the Conference League because so far they still remain the favorites to win the competition. They have the team that can do it, It is just the coach that is hoped on as someone that will be able to manage the players together to get the results desired by owner of club and supporters. The coach has shown some signs of tactical brilliance, he will mature more into the role with the more opportunity that he gets to play, and luckily for him, he has a team he can rotate.

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The calendar for the next games is now available

https://www.uefa.com/uefaconferenceleague/news/0290-1bbee2bdd4c2-dac8802cf83b-1000--conference-league-all-the-fixtures-and-results/

and the first 2 games will be:

Wednesday 2 October

İstanbul Başakşehir vs Rapid Wien

Vitória SC vs Celje

These will be boring games, in my opinion. I'm only interested in Chelsea's games, and they will play on October 3rd against Gent. I see it as a game in which Chelsea has some chances of winning. If it were Chelsea a few years ago when they were strong, I wouldn't have many doubts that they would win, but this current Chelsea is not reliable. Even playing against teams from the lower leagues, they can lose. That's why I'm not going to bet on Chelsea, but I will follow them. This would be a good chance for Chelsea to at least reach the final of this competition, because I don't see any great teams in this competition.

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