⚽UEFA Conference League Discussion Thread -- 2022/23 | Round of 16 - page 8.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on October 25, 2024, 02:51:08 PM

What a weird cup we have.
We dont have so many big teams, probably the biggest 2 teams are Chelsea by a long shot and then Fiorentina.

This could be the final but only a early game between them should not the reason to get them in final.

This cup lost a lot of value.

Since premier league has a lot of strong teams from this year, every year the english teams will be the favorite.

Europa Conference League is not as interesting as it was before because if you look at many teams that are in the League some teams look like academy teams, a team that played against Chelsea yesterday looks like an academy team if not Chelsea would not have scored that kind of goals in the match, 8 goals in one match and the opponents can't score even a single goal in the match, I know Chelsea is better than The opponents but the squad Chelsea use yesterday are not even second 11, those squad are third 11 players of Chelsea.

Those players that played yesterday for Chelsea never had a chance to score against any big team or let me say some of them have not made a debut in the Premier League they are in the Europa Conference League scoring goals like big players, Chelsea is the favorite to win this season Europa Conference League title, no any team should stress their self because Chelsea is the favorite to win the trophy.

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Quote from: Plaguedeath on November 07, 2024, 11:41:51 PM

What surprising is Copenhagen is really struggle, they once qualified for Champions League and can give a fight. They haven't win any single match, if it's continue, they will not able to qualify.

IIRC they're one of the teams in Pots 1 too. Their form in the league is not that impressive either. Based on stats alone it seems like they create many chances to score but their conversion ratio is too low. I think their defense in the league is quite okay since they have 1.16 xGA so far. But if we look at the Conference League table I think the numbers are quite fair[2]. They need to win and improve their goal-scoring ability as quickly as possible. It's not impossible considering how many teams above them have worse xGA which shows if they fight against clinical teams there's a chance they'd lose. CMIIW.

[1] https://fbref.com/en/squads/18050b20/FC-Copenhagen-Stats
[2] https://fbref.com/en/comps/882/Conference-League-Stats

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on November 07, 2024, 06:04:11 PM

Chelsea is the king in this league I didn't see other teams as competitors for Chelsea, maybe there is Fiorentina from Serie A but in my opinion they are still under Chelsea based on the level so as you said I wasn't surprised if Chelsea won with a lot of goals. Almost all of us agree that Chelsea will go to the final I didn't say Chelsea would win the trophy because unlucky day could come at any time. So far Chelsea have played 3 matches and they scored 16 goals and conceded 3 goals.

Chelsea is like playing in Championship League lol, they can easily destroy any teams without need their best eleven to play.

Fiorentina is underestimated the team they faced because De Gea didn't play, not surprising to see Fiorentina lose.

What surprising is Copenhagen is really struggle, they once qualified for Champions League and can give a fight. They haven't win any single match, if it's continue, they will not able to qualify.

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Quote from: bitLeap on November 07, 2024, 05:23:25 PM

Quote from: Franctoshi on November 07, 2024, 04:58:30 PM

Chelsea was really on fire tonight trashing their visitors Noah 8:0 from the result FT, I don't really see a team that would stop them on this side of competition from taking the trophy home. This is how I love a team to play, even though you're wining, score every goal opportunity that you have and create records if possible, I hope this kind of victory will get extended to Premier League and other competitions they're currently into.

I am not surprised when Chelsea had to party goals because in the first half alone it was proven that Noah FC quality was far below Chelsea's. So this victory seemed easy to achieve, the goals happened so quickly that Noah FC defense line had many gaps for Chelsea players, it was a delicious meal. 6 goals in the first half then the match is considered over, no need to continue.

Chelsea is the king in this league I didn't see other teams as competitors for Chelsea, maybe there is Fiorentina from Serie A but in my opinion they are still under Chelsea based on the level so as you said I wasn't surprised if Chelsea won with a lot of goals. Almost all of us agree that Chelsea will go to the final I didn't say Chelsea would win the trophy because unlucky day could come at any time. So far Chelsea have played 3 matches and they scored 16 goals and conceded 3 goals.

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Quote from: Egii Nna on November 07, 2024, 04:57:50 PM

Quote from: Hewlet on October 26, 2024, 12:38:50 AM

if you ask me, I don't like the energy they are using in this conference league game and how they are concieving unnecessary goals from this teams. Tournament as this are platforms you use to perfect what you plan on using in the EPL or in more competitive leagues and not scoring few goals and then you sit back and continue playing with less seriousness.

What are you saying? I don’t think there is anything wrong with the goals that they are scoring; they have the opportunity and are using it; at least,

Am almost moved to question how some of you guys watch football games and yet don't understand that it's a game of chance and you've got the take the opportunity as much as it comes. @Hewlet if you don't know, Chelsea scoring as many goals as possible through chances created won't stop them from scoring goals in their next game against Arsenal this weekend if arsenal performance poorly.

There has been many occurrences where teams had to win the trophy with just a few goal margin when points seem to be leveled between different contending teams, it's for this reason teams make sure to score as many goals as they can in every game. So you know now.

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Quote from: Franctoshi on November 07, 2024, 04:58:30 PM

Chelsea was really on fire tonight trashing their visitors Noah 8:0 from the result FT, I don't really see a team that would stop them on this side of competition from taking the trophy home. This is how I love a team to play, even though you're wining, score every goal opportunity that you have and create records if possible, I hope this kind of victory will get extended to Premier League and other competitions they're currently into.

I am not surprised when Chelsea had to party goals because in the first half alone it was proven that Noah FC quality was far below Chelsea's. So this victory seemed easy to achieve, the goals happened so quickly that Noah FC defense line had many gaps for Chelsea players, it was a delicious meal. 6 goals in the first half then the match is considered over, no need to continue.

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Quote from: MK-74 on November 07, 2024, 08:24:44 AM

Copenhagen - Başakşehir match will be played tonight. Copenhagen will win this match easily, Başakşehir is unfortunately playing poorly.
Başakşehir lost to Celje 5-1 in their last European match. They also lost their last match in the Super League 3-2.

The sites gave 1.50 odds for a Copenhagen win, I think it is a good odd, I definitely think Copenhagen will win.

Aaand this aged very badly Wink

Credit, they did clamber back from a loss but still didn't win. This is what happens when you just post "commentary we don't need" about a team you barely know much more about than the odds bookies give them. Pistol Piatek not in the ground yet.

1.5 is good odds for a team that only won 1 of their last 4 games, and hasn't won yet in the league phase of Conference?

Quote from: coinlocket$ on October 25, 2024, 02:51:08 PM

What a weird cup we have.
We dont have so many big teams, probably the biggest 2 teams are Chelsea by a long shot and then Fiorentina.

This could be the final but only a early game between them should not the reason to get them in final.

This cup lost a lot of value.

I know this is two weeks late reply but bears repeating. The cup has lost its prestige value -- but the financial rewards are quite comparable to Europa. It really is all about the money now, my friend.

P.S. Need to clean up this thread. Sorry guys!

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Quote from: Lida93 on November 07, 2024, 04:44:17 PM

Chelsea are beating Noah 6 : 0 in what seem to be like goals festival for the London blues tonight. Enzo Fernandez was able to get a three assists within 20 minutes in helping to secure those goals in the first half. Am impressed with Chelsea performance tonight and how Enzo has been able to light up the midfield, looking great for me as I have had to criticise him in other games he underperformed, so it interesting to see some improvement and hope to see some consistency with that about when they meet Arsenal in the EPL this weekend.

Chelsea was really on fire tonight trashing their visitors Noah 8:0 from the result FT, I don't really see a team that would stop them on this side of competition from taking the trophy home. This is how I love a team to play, even though you're wining, score every goal opportunity that you have and create records if possible, I hope this kind of victory will get extended to Premier League and other competitions they're currently into.

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Quote from: Hewlet on October 26, 2024, 12:38:50 AM

if you ask me, I don't like the energy they are using in this conference league game and how they are concieving unnecessary goals from this teams. Tournament as this are platforms you use to perfect what you plan on using in the EPL or in more competitive leagues and not scoring few goals and then you sit back and continue playing with less seriousness.

What are you saying? I don’t think there is anything wrong with the goals that they are scoring; they have the opportunity and are using it; at least, if not for anything, they will be the leading team on the table of 36 teams, which is not something bad but a good record for them. And talking about the Premier League, they are also trying their best, even though we know that there is a lot of competition there, but I am very sure that it will be hard by the end of the season. Chelsea will not be among the top 4 teams in the table even with the competition because from their performances they show that they have a dream and are capable of achieving that dream, so lead just leave Chelsea to have more goals. Grin

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Chelsea are beating Noah 6 : 0 in what seem to be like goals festival for the London blues tonight. Enzo Fernandez was able to get a three assists within 20 minutes in helping to secure those goals in the first half. Am impressed with Chelsea performance tonight and how Enzo has been able to light up the midfield, looking great for me as I have had to criticise him in other games he underperformed, so it interesting to see some improvement and hope to see some consistency with that about when they meet Arsenal in the EPL this weekend.

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Quote from: MK-74 on November 07, 2024, 08:24:44 AM

Copenhagen - Başakşehir match will be played tonight. Copenhagen will win this match easily, Başakşehir is unfortunately playing poorly.
Başakşehir lost to Celje 5-1 in their last European match. They also lost their last match in the Super League 3-2.

The sites gave 1.50 odds for a Copenhagen win, I think it is a good odd, I definitely think Copenhagen will win.

70+ Mins and Copenhagen are still losing, down with a goal. The best result that can be gotten is a draw because scoring two goals within the limited time might not be achievable.

My whole concern in today's fixture is just on Chelsea, someone should please tell them to stop scoring, seven goals from Chelsea is just enough to win them the game no need of hamulating the opponent further, many viewers already lost interest because no hope for any possible come back and the result has already been determined nothing else to derive watching. With these performances Chelsea are winning the league, no team looks fit to contend for the title.

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Copenhagen - Başakşehir match will be played tonight. Copenhagen will win this match easily, Başakşehir is unfortunately playing poorly.
Başakşehir lost to Celje 5-1 in their last European match. They also lost their last match in the Super League 3-2.

The sites gave 1.50 odds for a Copenhagen win, I think it is a good odd, I definitely think Copenhagen will win.

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Quote from: Jossque on October 25, 2024, 09:47:42 AM

Our representative Basaksehir suffered a heavy defeat in Europe.I did not expect this result from Basaksehir who lost 5-1 against Celje.It was a tough match for them and I thought they could get a draw from this match.When we look at the match, we can say that Basaksehir played more with the ball but Celje scored the goals.Pelkas scored the only goal for Basaksehir.Basaksehir failed to win in 2 matches with this defeat.

That was easy win for Celje football team because they played their best players who played very well in this match and did 5 goals in this match. 5 goals were not easy but they played with good rhythm .Kučys did 2 goals in this match and he confirm their win this match and did his first goal at 51 minutes and after that he did his second goal at 77 minutes. That match was totally one sided and audience didn't enjoy well in this match because that like to watch tough match for both teams but that was not that kind of match.Pelkas was the only person who became successful to do goal for his team and he did goal at 75 minutes but no other player could do well in this match .

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I know this is the only place Chelsea fans can feel free to say they are the best team and also the favorite, but let's face the reality about that, Chelsea are the favorite to win this title from how consistent they have been since the beginning of the Conference league this season. The Blues have been getting too many goals and they look promising but coming to the EPL they become something different.
These set of players that have been used to play the Conference league scoring 4-5 goals in a single game are not the same guys who play the EPL games and the Madueke and Co don't have this very flexibility the other guys have but the coach just choose to drop the likes of Nkunku, Felix, Mudryk and Neto on the bench or maybe they are his Conference league players who knows. Enzo Maresca knows what to do to make the team to be as deadly as possible, well he has done well tonight with a 1-4 win and I hope he'll do the same against Newcastle.

Chelsea is the only reason why I consider the conference league a valid UEFA tournament. As for why Enzo plays Neto, Felix and the likes, it's a no brainer. Most coaches do the same thing — start players who aren't regular starters but should be. If anything, these conference league matches are opportunities for these sets of players to impress and if they do that at a consistent level, they might get the opportunity to even become regular starters in the premier league.

It's worth noting that opponents in the conference league are much more easier to play against than Premier League teams. That's definitely something to keep in mind if you want to rate performances.

But damn, I almost forgot Joao Felix is a Chelsea player.

I don't think that's the case, no matter how impressive these guys are or play in the conference league the manager Enzo Maresca won't start them and you'd agree with me that Felix, Nkunku, Neto and Mudryk are better than many of the starters in the EPL but they hardly see the first 11. Is just the Manager's thinking of selecting players and is not making the team very much effective as it is in the conference league. And let me remind you, no game is easy both in the EPL or whichever competition let's take Manchester United for example, they can't even get a comfortable win, if they are winning by 3 goals to nil don't celebrate their winning until is full time because they might end up losing or playing a draw, so all games are important and difficult at the same time.

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Quote from: irhact on October 25, 2024, 04:38:59 PM

Chelsea scoring another 4 goals in the conference league after scoring 4 goals in their first game. shows that Chelsea is above this tournament. Chelsea isn't using their strongest squad and still they're scoring 4 goals. The conference league is already Chelsea own to win. Losing the conference league will be due to Chelsea not taking it serious and not as a result of Chelsea performing poor as that is so unlikely. I enjoyed the Chelsea game and I wanted more goals to be scored just for the fun of it. Mudryk scoring with a header was good for him as he has been seen as a flop signing and needs playing time to try to prove people wrong that he still has something to offer.

if you ask me, I don't like the energy they are using in this conference league game and how they are concieving unnecessary goals from this teams. Tournament as this are platforms you use to perfect what you plan on using in the EPL or in more competitive leagues and not scoring few goals and then you sit back and continue playing with less seriousness.

Getting all three points is very important but above those, it would be better to try out more ideas and see how aggressive your key players can improve on a lot of things. The defense of the first and second team facing same problem, they are far from being strong. A lot of attention is being paid to the front and that's why they've almost scored against all the teams they've played against this season but have conceived too many goals also. It's been a good campaign so far and they need to be scoring a lot of goals in all the matches so they can send a clear message that they are above the conference league. Like Enzo maresca has said, they aren't in the champions league or Europa League but in the conference league. The other leagues they are currently playing won't be easy for them to top so they have to make the conference league a must win while they fight to go top of the other leagues.

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Quote from: irhact on October 25, 2024, 04:38:59 PM

Quote from: Adiljutt156 on October 25, 2024, 02:44:24 PM

Chelsea football team played very well in yesterday match and they won the match easily and that was one sided match because one team remained dominant in this match . J. Félix did 2 goals in this match and he did his first goal at 22 minutes and he did second at 55 minutes after starting the match and after the second goal ,match had bent towards the Chelsea side but they continue to do well in this match and they became successful to do 4 goals and that was excellent score and we saw many less matches in which we saw 4-1 goals. When we see hard competition,we get entertainment from that and when we saw competition between low quality and high quality teams then we see less interesting match.

Chelsea scoring another 4 goals in the conference league after scoring 4 goals in their first game. shows that Chelsea is above this tournament. Chelsea isn't using their strongest squad and still they're scoring 4 goals. The conference league is already Chelsea own to win. Losing the conference league will be due to Chelsea not taking it serious and not as a result of Chelsea performing poor as that is so unlikely. I enjoyed the Chelsea game and I wanted more goals to be scored just for the fun of it. Mudryk scoring with a header was good for him as he has been seen as a flop signing and needs playing time to try to prove people wrong that he still has something to offer.

Yes Chelsea finished the two match with win each for 4 goal and brought them to the top of the standings, but I think it is too much to believe Chelsea to be able to win this competition because they are not stable team even though they appeared very impressive at the beginning.
Journey is still long and remember that Fiorentina is team that can be said to be dark horse here and they are competitors that cannot be underestimated by anyone including Chelsea, I believe Chelsea can enter the last 16 or even reach more than that but when facing Fiorentina they might have difficulty or even be eliminated earlier in the next round.

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Quote from: irhact on October 25, 2024, 04:38:59 PM

Chelsea scoring another 4 goals in the conference league after scoring 4 goals in their first game. shows that Chelsea is above this tournament. Chelsea isn't using their strongest squad and still they're scoring 4 goals. The conference league is already Chelsea own to win. Losing the conference league will be due to Chelsea not taking it serious and not as a result of Chelsea performing poor as that is so unlikely. I enjoyed the Chelsea game and I wanted more goals to be scored just for the fun of it. Mudryk scoring with a header was good for him as he has been seen as a flop signing and needs playing time to try to prove people wrong that he still has something to offer.

The Conference League is a trophy to Enzo Maresca, Chelsea's biggest challenge will be themselves in this competition because if the begin to underrate teams and not take games seriously then they will loose a game that nobody will think that they will loose in. The good thing about the Chelsea team is that they can win this competition comfortably without having to stress any player that they use in the Premier League simply because they have a large squad, and this new coach looks to know how to properly manage and rotate the players which has been a problem that some of the older coaches had.
Mudryk is shinning for Chelsea in the conference league, It will be pleasing to see him take more of this performance to the premier league.

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Quote from: Adiljutt156 on October 25, 2024, 02:44:24 PM

Chelsea football team played very well in yesterday match and they won the match easily and that was one sided match because one team remained dominant in this match . J. Félix did 2 goals in this match and he did his first goal at 22 minutes and he did second at 55 minutes after starting the match and after the second goal ,match had bent towards the Chelsea side but they continue to do well in this match and they became successful to do 4 goals and that was excellent score and we saw many less matches in which we saw 4-1 goals. When we see hard competition,we get entertainment from that and when we saw competition between low quality and high quality teams then we see less interesting match.

Chelsea scoring another 4 goals in the conference league after scoring 4 goals in their first game. shows that Chelsea is above this tournament. Chelsea isn't using their strongest squad and still they're scoring 4 goals. The conference league is already Chelsea own to win. Losing the conference league will be due to Chelsea not taking it serious and not as a result of Chelsea performing poor as that is so unlikely. I enjoyed the Chelsea game and I wanted more goals to be scored just for the fun of it. Mudryk scoring with a header was good for him as he has been seen as a flop signing and needs playing time to try to prove people wrong that he still has something to offer.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on October 25, 2024, 02:51:08 PM

What a weird cup we have.
We dont have so many big teams, probably the biggest 2 teams are Chelsea by a long shot and then Fiorentina.

This could be the final but only a early game between them should not the reason to get them in final.

This cup lost a lot of value.

Since premier league has a lot of strong teams from this year, every year the english teams will be the favorite.

Seeing the category of teams in this competition, the worst thing that would happen to Chelsea in that competition is seeing Chelsea or Fiorentina go home and not make it to the final game, especially Chelsea that are not in any eaurpean competition the champions league and EUFA Eropa cup, they are in a very good position and have opportunity to land the trophy home.

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What a weird cup we have.
We dont have so many big teams, probably the biggest 2 teams are Chelsea by a long shot and then Fiorentina.

This could be the final but only a early game between them should not the reason to get them in final.

This cup lost a lot of value.

Since premier league has a lot of strong teams from this year, every year the english teams will be the favorite.

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