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Topic: ⚽UEFA EURO 2020 Discussion Thread | Current Phase: Finals in June 2021! - page 96. (Read 31364 times)

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Even though England played at home but still I don't believe that was the trigger to win and even, these two teams played at home during the group stage but still the result was bad. But if I had to choose who would win, I personally would still choose Germany even though basically I don't like them because they don't look very good in the group stage and tend to look boring.

Yup! England have a funny relationship with their fans actually and I personally even think some of the English players play worse under the pressure of expectation (talking about Sterling esepcially). Germany on paper have to be the favorites but maybe after group showing bookies will favor England.

@joker_josue man I hope it doesn't go to penalties otherwise I have one bet wrecked early:)
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So the knock out stage will give us 2 early finals already. Those to matches are England vs Germany and Portugal vs Belgium. I can say those two matches as early finals because those 4 teams are strong teams that has good chance to reach Final in general. Hard to predict those two matches but I'll go for England and Portugal.
England vs Germany: Although England seems to be a team that has scoring goal difficulties in the group stage but Germany is also not that good in defense.
Portugal vs Belgium: Portugal has many great midfielders but they did not really show their best like what they show in their club. Ronaldo will be still the one to make a change on the match. On other side, Belgium has better result in group stage with 100% win but they won it all against mediocre teams only.

In this year's euro, we have seen several times the early final (bigmatch) has occurred, such as the match between France vs. Germany in the previous group stage, and interestingly the bigmatch will happen again in the last 16 match, where several big teams will face each other in the live dead match and of course it seems to be the final for some teams such as England vs Germany and also Belgium vs Portugal, and in my opinion the England and Germany meeting will present a fierce feud with the honor of their respective countries because indeed the two teams have become classic rivals so far.
My prediction is Germany and Belgium will move to the next phase.
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So the knock out stage will give us 2 early finals already. Those to matches are England vs Germany and Portugal vs Belgium. I can say those two matches as early finals because those 4 teams are strong teams that has good chance to reach Final in general. Hard to predict those two matches but I'll go for England and Portugal.
England vs Germany: Although England seems to be a team that has scoring goal difficulties in the group stage but Germany is also not that good in defense.
Portugal vs Belgium: Portugal has many great midfielders but they did not really show their best like what they show in their club. Ronaldo will be still the one to make a change on the match. On other side, Belgium has better result in group stage with 100% win but they won it all against mediocre teams only.

I support the Portuguese national team, so I will refrain from commenting on their chances  Smiley
As for the England - Germany match, at the moment, although we see a loud name, I have strong doubts that these teams are, on average, stronger than the rest of the playoffs - too weak a game was shown at the group stage.
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One thing I liked about Hungary is that almost their entire team was of Hungarian descent (the only exception I could find was Loïc Négo). On the other hand, the Western European nations fielded squads that were predominantly composed of players who were born in Africa or Latin America. Obviously in football the eligibility rules are quite tight and you can't include non-citizens in the squad. But many of these players (Kimpembe, Pogba, Mbappé, Dembélé.etc) had the option of representing their country of descent as well. They chose European countries for obvious reasons. Now this is a disadvantage for the poorer countries.

You forgot to mention Willi Orban, he was born in Kaiserslautern, Germany and is living in Germany for his entire life now. He even played for the German under 21 national Team. In 2018 he decided to play for the Hungarian national team instead, i guess because he thought his chances for regular appearances are higher there than in the german squad and it worked out for him as he is a starting player their. He can play for Hungary because his dad is from hungarian.
On the subject of the French national team. France used to be a colonial power. That's why there are more people of African descent in the country than in other countries. It is true that they are over-represented in the national team, but it is a fact that black people are usually better athletes and coaches will always just the best players that are available to them.
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So the knock out stage will give us 2 early finals already. Those to matches are England vs Germany and Portugal vs Belgium. I can say those two matches as early finals because those 4 teams are strong teams that has good chance to reach Final in general. Hard to predict those two matches but I'll go for England and Portugal.
England vs Germany: Although England seems to be a team that has scoring goal difficulties in the group stage but Germany is also not that good in defense.
Portugal vs Belgium: Portugal has many great midfielders but they did not really show their best like what they show in their club. Ronaldo will be still the one to make a change on the match. On other side, Belgium has better result in group stage with 100% win but they won it all against mediocre teams only.

Ronaldo didn't really perform that well. He just scores penalties all the time. What is Portugal going to do without penalties? I see Belgium is a bit ahead of Portugal. De Bruyne is such a strong key player, I think he will make the difference in that match up.

As for Germany vs. England, that is a tough one. I have no idea. I would say if Germany plays its best they win even against a good performance of the English team. However, there will only be 2,000 German fans I think. As far as I know over 30,000 English fans. I don't like that rule that much. It kind of distorts the fact that usually the teams at a EURO should have equal conditions and chances except for the home team of course. But look at how many games take place in Wembley, that is clearly an advantage. On the other hand Germany had that advantage in the group stage of course.
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So the knock out stage will give us 2 early finals already. Those to matches are England vs Germany and Portugal vs Belgium. I can say those two matches as early finals because those 4 teams are strong teams that has good chance to reach Final in general. Hard to predict those two matches but I'll go for England and Portugal.
England vs Germany: Although England seems to be a team that has scoring goal difficulties in the group stage but Germany is also not that good in defense.
Portugal vs Belgium: Portugal has many great midfielders but they did not really show their best like what they show in their club. Ronaldo will be still the one to make a change on the match. On other side, Belgium has better result in group stage with 100% win but they won it all against mediocre teams only.
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One thing I liked about Hungary is that almost their entire team was of Hungarian descent (the only exception I could find was Loïc Négo). On the other hand, the Western European nations fielded squads that were predominantly composed of players who were born in Africa or Latin America. Obviously in football the eligibility rules are quite tight and you can't include non-citizens in the squad. But many of these players (Kimpembe, Pogba, Mbappé, Dembélé.etc) had the option of representing their country of descent as well. They chose European countries for obvious reasons. Now this is a disadvantage for the poorer countries.

You don't know the parents or the players from Europe at all!
Kimpembe, Pogba, Mbappé, Dembélé... they are all players who were born in France. Therefore, they are French, no matter if their parents or grandparents are from other countries.
From Italy everyone is Italian.
In Portugal, there is only 1 player that neutralizes Portuguese, which was Pepe (Brazil).
England, will all be from the UK.
Russia actually has one or two players, who are Brazilians.

Anyway... in practically every country, players were born in the country they represent. Having mostly parents who also have the same origin/nationality.
It's not the name, skin color, physical condition, or family history that make them different from the country they represent.
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Hungary tried their best in the Euro. They played with strong countries with star players and still struggle to lose  only one match and draw twice. People actually thought they was not going to have any points. So sad, this is the end of road for them in the Euro 2020.

One thing I liked about Hungary is that almost their entire team was of Hungarian descent (the only exception I could find was Loïc Négo). On the other hand, the Western European nations fielded squads that were predominantly composed of players who were born in Africa or Latin America. Obviously in football the eligibility rules are quite tight and you can't include non-citizens in the squad. But many of these players (Kimpembe, Pogba, Mbappé, Dembélé.etc) had the option of representing their country of descent as well. They chose European countries for obvious reasons. Now this is a disadvantage for the poorer countries.
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The fact that Hungary turned out to be the weakest in the group is not surprising, this result was predictable. Yes, Hungary played very decently, with three games they playd draw twice, in such a group it is a very decent result, it is a pity that they will not continue their participation in the tournament further, I think they had very good prospects to fight with the strongest teams.
Hungary tried their best in the Euro. They played with strong countries with star players and still struggle to lose  only one match and draw twice. People actually thought they was not going to have any points. So sad, this is the end of road for them in the Euro 2020.
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England vs Germany wont be boring at all. Maybe England will try and make it boring but the way Germany plays its only attack attack and attack. Plus Germanys defence is not that good on this EURO. I think Germany can win this match easily if it was played anywhere else then in England. Englands big advantage is the home ground
England vs Germany is one of clasic big matches in the Europe. You can not say the defense of England is good because they have yet met with big teams so far. Germany will be the first big test for England.

Even though the German defence might not be tight however I don't think England can defeat them or pose any threat to then  from past record they have been defeated or eliminated in all the knockout stages by the German, the match won't be boring based the German attacking prowess, they will attack and fire on all cylinders, although playing at Wembley might give the English team a slight edge however that might not play out despite the team havong star-studded squad
Gemany played better than England in the first three matches and England looks bad with attacking. Probably people thought England and Southgate tried to hide a real power in group stage but I don't know. If it is true, they will come back stronger in the match against Germany. If it is untrue, Germany will be able, have more chance to beat England.

Anyway, at any time, such match is 50 - 50 for both teams and the leverage will be fall into one side or another a bit, but not too much.
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The most interesting match in the round of 16 will be Germany vs England. Germany can pass the tour in this round. Of course, England also has this possibility. Considering the matches played in groups, I think Germany is luckier.
Lol, I think the match will still be boring because previously I felt these two teams would be very productive teams, but the fact is not so good even though both of them can qualify for the round of 16. I personally prefer the Belgium - Portugal match, I'm sure this match will be exciting because both have productive goalscoring machines like Ronaldo who is the temporary top scorer and Lukaku who looks like he will still be sharp in Belgium's attack.
England vs Germany wont be boring at all. Maybe England will try and make it boring but the way Germany plays its only attack attack and attack. Plus Germanys defence is not that good on this EURO. I think Germany can win this match easily if it was played anywhere else then in England. Englands big advantage is the home ground
Even though the German defence might not be tight however I don't think England can defeat them or pose any threat to then  from past record they have been defeated or eliminated in all the knockout stages by the German, the match won't be boring based the German attacking prowess, they will attack and fire on all cylinders, although playing at Wembley might give the English team a slight edge however that might not play out despite the team havong star-studded squad
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The most interesting match in the round of 16 will be Germany vs England. Germany can pass the tour in this round. Of course, England also has this possibility. Considering the matches played in groups, I think Germany is luckier.
Lol, I think the match will still be boring because previously I felt these two teams would be very productive teams, but the fact is not so good even though both of them can qualify for the round of 16. I personally prefer the Belgium - Portugal match, I'm sure this match will be exciting because both have productive goalscoring machines like Ronaldo who is the temporary top scorer and Lukaku who looks like he will still be sharp in Belgium's attack.
England vs Germany wont be boring at all. Maybe England will try and make it boring but the way Germany plays its only attack attack and attack. Plus Germanys defence is not that good on this EURO. I think Germany can win this match easily if it was played anywhere else then in England. Englands big advantage is the home ground
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I have the same feeling about it as well. Given the status and the squad both teams are playing below expectations. Germany. Harry Kane is yet to open his account in Euro and with him being silent England are finding difficult to score much goals. As for Germany , defense is a bit worrying department. Well it's play off now and hope things will change down and both teams will play with all guns out.
I guess they will play with all guns out and hopefully the best what they have as its already a final match and a classic one too.
Maybe England also needs the same as Germany a team that playing with , and not only staying in the back and wait for there chances.
I think we will see a good game between both teams next week.
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In the last 16 round, the most exciting draws will be Belgium - Portugal and England - Germany, I think.

Belgium have promoted as the leader and they won all of their games in their group. I really liked their big effort. Kevin De Bruyne is really a game changer. In the Denmark - Belgium game, he entered the game in the early second half. He scored 1 goal and made 1 assist. He is their most important player in this draw too. I can't also overlook Lukaku's great performance. He has been just a beast. Defenders have really hard time preventing him. His contribution also has been quite big so far. Portugal were nearly being eliminated in the group stage already. Thanks to Germany, they have managed to promote. Ronaldo was really good against France by not missing any of the penalties. In this draw, I see Belgium as one step ahead. It won't be easy though but they can beat Portugal by one goal.

I can't say that England were so awesome. They had 2 wins and 1 draw in the group stage, yeah. But they didn't win those games easily. And they had a hard time against Scotland. They seemed like they didn't care too much. But in this round, I expect them to play way more serious. Germany had really interesting games. France didn't make them play properly. But in the second game, there were a totally different Germany. They just destroyed Portugal 4-2. But in the last game, they were having serious problems again. They were so close to losing to Hungary and say goodbye to the tournament. In this draw, my favourite team are England. I think they can win against the unstable Germany.
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Today's games produced quite a number of goals and my sole interest was the Portugal versus France.  Honestly i thought France would come out top in this one but I guess Ronaldo and team had other plans and his nemesis Benzema too was on point 👉  which conclusively was a good match.
It's not just a good game, but it's also a series of dramatic matches. If you notice, the drama started at the beginning of the second half of the match between Portugal and France, and it lasted until about 60 minutes. Right at the moment Portugal were led by France, they were no longer safe in this group, when Hungary suddenly led Germany. This makes Portugal the team at the bottom of the table and in danger of being eliminated. But then, Portugal equalized, Germany equalized, the position of the teams in the group continued to change. These developments are really unpredictable and it creates terrible drama, I still feel dizzy when I think about it. All 3 teams Germany, Portugal and Hungary are in danger of being eliminated. Unbelievable, everything happened within a few short minutes
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As for Germany , defense is a bit worrying

Yeah but Germany would be playing against England. I mean England is so bad in Euro that they only scored 2 goals out of 3 matches despite playing against Croatia, Scotland and Czech Republic. I could only imagine the worst scenario if England somehow win against Germany, it would be either because England score an early goal or probably through the injury time

Germany is actually a good draw for them since Germans will attack and leave enough space for Sterling to exploit. If they got paired with Sweden or Portugal I would put my money 0:0 immediately.

A draw huh, might be a good option to go for 0-0 half time in this match
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I have the same feeling about it as well. Given the status and the squad both teams are playing below expectations. Germany. Harry Kane is yet to open his account in Euro and with him being silent England are finding difficult to score much goals. As for Germany , defense is a bit worrying department. Well it's play off now and hope things will change down and both teams will play with all guns out.
I don't think Southgate will ever allow England to play with all guns out. He is always playing with 2 defensive midfielders and restricting his full backs to very safe and defensive style of play. As a consequence of that England has become defensively very stable but they are seriously lacking in creativity and chance creation. Basically they are playing long ball to Sterling and hoping he outruns his defenders, their second good attacking option are set pieces and that is it way too little for team of England quality.

Germany is actually a good draw for them since Germans will attack and leave enough space for Sterling to exploit. If they got paired with Sweden or Portugal I would put my money 0:0 immediately.
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The most interesting match in the round of 16 will be Germany vs England. Germany can pass the tour in this round. Of course, England also has this possibility. Considering the matches played in groups, I think Germany is luckier.
Lol, I think the match will still be boring because previously I felt these two teams would be very productive teams, but the fact is not so good even though both of them can qualify for the round of 16. I personally prefer the Belgium - Portugal match, I'm sure this match will be exciting because both have productive goalscoring machines like Ronaldo who is the temporary top scorer and Lukaku who looks like he will still be sharp in Belgium's attack.

I have the same feeling about it as well. Given the status and the squad both teams are playing below expectations. Germany. Harry Kane is yet to open his account in Euro and with him being silent England are finding difficult to score much goals. As for Germany , defense is a bit worrying department. Well it's play off now and hope things will change down and both teams will play with all guns out.
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Regardless of how the goal was created, currently ronaldo has collected 5 goals and with portugal still surviving in euro 2020/21 of course there is still an opportunity for ronaldo to break the record held by Michel Platini (9 goals) as the player with the most goals collection in one Euro tournament edition.
Of course, his percentage of success in scoring a penalty is also quite impressive. But no matter how the goal was scored, his name and number would go down in history. It took 4 goals to match Platini's achievement. Maybe it will be achieved if Portugal is able to survive until the final.

Yeah, I'm also not so sure about belgium even though they got perfect points in qualifying. Because, Portugal also has a good opportunity. I think these two teams will be equally difficult to score goals, even if they win, one of them can only score one goal. Even their move (who wins), will likely stop in the top 8. For the Netherlands and Italy, there is no doubt, even I think Netherlands has potential to the final.
I agree that it was a tough game, but Belgium can be favorite to win the game because they have a pretty good line-up so far. I have no doubt that they are capable of scoring, although it is difficult but I believe Belgium will beat Portugal.
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Perfect 9 points can not help them to reserve a spot in quarter final. They have to fight and win their matches in Round 16. Italy and Netherlands can win a bit easily but Belgium will have to show their best performance to win against Portugal.


Yeah, I'm also not so sure about belgium even though they got perfect points in qualifying. Because, Portugal also has a good opportunity. I think these two teams will be equally difficult to score goals, even if they win, one of them can only score one goal. Even their move (who wins), will likely stop in the top 8. For the Netherlands and Italy, there is no doubt, even I think Netherlands has potential to the final.
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