Topic: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers - page 16. (Read 18913 times)
Soon there will be play-off matches to qualify for the Euros... Poland will play Estonia, Ukraine vs Bosnia, Wales vs Finland, Israel vs Iceland... Of all these teams it seems to me that Poland will definitely win... I have my doubts about the others...
Wow! So, if Italy plays like garbage and Albania is good, then Albania should suffer based on some crap ratings, and Italy should make a profit? And you apparently assume that this will be “in the interests of everyone”? 
This point of view seems a bit arrogant to me.
First of all, if Italy was a total garbage, they woulnd't even qualify for Euro. 2nd, 8 or 10 games is imho not a sample enough to determine the strength of each of the teams. Ask anyone from the Pot 1 would they rather play vs Albania or Italy on Euro and let me know. This point of view seems a bit arrogant to me.Don't get me wrong, seeding based on FIFA ranking ain't perfect either but is imho much better than what UEFA is using as it increases chances for either too weak or too strong groups where some of the favorites might meet too early.
Croatia team should not rely on Modric or Perisic too much because they are very old players. I can not deny they are great players with magical skills and massive achievements in their career with clubs and Croatian national team but ageing does not avoid any player.
Since they are still our best players, there's not much option other than use them as much as you can. Keep in mind that we are a small country with less than 4 million people so our pool of players is not as deep as many of the other top countries. 
Nope, we're crap. I'll put all my money on us not getting out of the group, no matter what kind of group we get.
We had a great midfield that covered both the shitty defence and slow and static attack, now our midfield is horrible as well.
Modrić can't keep a consistent level, Brozović is awful and Kovačić is decent, but never really excelled for the national team.
We're without Perišić, with Kramarić as our only reliable offensive option, and with Šutalo in horrible form we don't know who'll be playing with Gvardiol in defence.
We lack directness, width and depth all across the pitch, I'm not looking forward to the Euros at all.
Croatia team should not rely on Modric or Perisic too much because they are very old players. I can not deny they are great players with magical skills and massive achievements in their career with clubs and Croatian national team but ageing does not avoid any player.We had a great midfield that covered both the shitty defence and slow and static attack, now our midfield is horrible as well.
Modrić can't keep a consistent level, Brozović is awful and Kovačić is decent, but never really excelled for the national team.
We're without Perišić, with Kramarić as our only reliable offensive option, and with Šutalo in horrible form we don't know who'll be playing with Gvardiol in defence.
We lack directness, width and depth all across the pitch, I'm not looking forward to the Euros at all.
Croatia can use those players at appropriate times when their coach see those players can maximize their appearances with best effects they can do. With less appearances and less contributions from Modric and Perisic, Croatia is a team with serious lack of creativeness in attacking. The team have a good system with players unite together as an actual team but to have goals against opponents, they need creativeness and deadly key passes from players like Modric and Perisic.
So far in Croatia, I hardly see young players who can replace these two legendary players.
Wales didn't manage to beat Turkey and game ended 1:1. On the other hand, Crotia managed to defeat Armenia with one goal and came out of the group as the 2nd. Thus, Croatia and Turkey qualified to participate in the EURO 2024 European Cup. So Turkey secured 2nd pot. Croatia secured 3nd pot. Türkiye finished the group qualifiers at the top for the first time.
The Turkish team performed admirably in qualifying matches, placing first in their group. This is significant credit for them for finishing ahead of a big team like Croatia. They played eight matches, winning five, drawing two, and losing one, finishing with 17 points, one point more than Croatia. They will go far in the competition if they perform as well as they did in the qualifiers, but that does not offer them a high hope or sense of winning the trophy ahead of the many big teams who will be competing. We only have to wait for the final draws and the groups that each of the qualifying teams will be assigned to, by then we can have a better forecast and good predictions of how the competition will go for them.
Wales didn't manage to beat Turkey and game ended 1:1. On the other hand, Crotia managed to defeat Armenia with one goal and came out of the group as the 2nd. Thus, Croatia and Turkey qualified to participate in the EURO 2024 European Cup. So Turkey secured 2nd pot. Croatia secured 3nd pot. Türkiye finished the group qualifiers at the top for the first time.
Wales' last 2 matches did not go well which made them finally have to be willing to be in 3rd place and could not qualify for the next phase because Croatia's last 2 matches ended with a victory. This is obviously very regrettable especially with what Wales did actually quite well at the beginning and they were in second place but they could not maintain it.
With the results we have now we can see the clubs that qualify for the Euro in Germany 2024 and there are names of Scotland and Albania that I think are interesting for this Euro.
In my opinion, Croatia is one of the strongest teams in the world. They have consistently been in the top four strongest teams at the last two World Cups. Modric is the strongest player in the world and he is Croatian. But in this qualifying tournament the team did not show a bright game, but still they reached the final stage of the tournament. I hope Croatia will show more spectacular and interesting soccer at Euro-24.
Nope, we're crap. I'll put all my money on us not getting out of the group, no matter what kind of group we get.
We had a great midfield that covered both the shitty defence and slow and static attack, now our midfield is horrible as well.
Modrić can't keep a consistent level, Brozović is awful and Kovačić is decent, but never really excelled for the national team.
We're without Perišić, with Kramarić as our only reliable offensive option, and with Šutalo in horrible form we don't know who'll be playing with Gvardiol in defence.
We lack directness, width and depth all across the pitch, I'm not looking forward to the Euros at all.
Well, in fact, this is a completely logical system and in fact it works 100%.
This new system is pure shit and it will only increase chances of having a very strong or a very weak group in Euro and I don't think that its anyone's interest. Thanks to the geniuses at UEFA we may have group with France, Denmark, Croatia and Italy and at the same time we could have a group with Belgium, Albania, Slovenia and Greece. They should imho just stick to seding based on FIFA ranking instead of this mess.This is how it would look like if based on FIFA ranking as of November 2023. We could still get harder and weaker groups of course, but generally speaking it would be more balanced.
Pot 1: Germany, France, England, Belgium, Netherlands, Portugal
Pot 2: Spain, Italy, Croatia, Switzerland, Denmark, Austria
Pot 3: Hungary, Serbia, Scotland, Turkey, Czech Republic, Romania
Pot 4: Slovakia, Slovenia, Albania + 3 teams from the playoff.
Wow! So, if Italy plays like garbage and Albania is good, then Albania should suffer based on some crap ratings, and Italy should make a profit? And you apparently assume that this will be “in the interests of everyone”?
This point of view seems a bit arrogant to me.For the first time in a long time, UEFA did something reasonable, and you are defending the old corrupt system that increased the advantage of already strong teams and oppressed the weak ones due to some crap ratings based on games that had nothing to do with the tournament at all.
I think that the coaches who have played as attackers in their football career tend to be a bit better than other coaches who have played a different role.Also Albania qualified first defying all the odds when the group were announced there were Czech Republic and Poland so nobody thought they would be first,the coach was Sylvinho a winger that most played in attack rather than his role of defense and he like Montella had a great success in these qualifiers by making history.
Italian coaches are great as they come from Serie A which is a very tactical league to play in so they know a couple more things to apply to their strategy.
Italian coaches are great as they come from Serie A which is a very tactical league to play in so they know a couple more things to apply to their strategy.
But Italy has always been famous for its good defense, strong goalkeepers and it seems that this tactic has not shown itself very well in recent years, since pressing, attacking football has an advantage, it seems to me that Guardiola can be a good example of this. But sometimes defensive tactics also bring results, representatives of such football are Simione and Mourinier, although they achieve titles less often, it still happens from time to time. So I agree with you, attacking football now brings better results.
I will again take an example from Albania,first time when they qualified for the Euros in 2016 the coach was an Italian guy,Gianni De Biasi and I don't know what role he had as a player but he strongly played in defense and counter attacks which made the qualification and as second in the group with a very much controversial way of playing,it turned out in the Euro it was a bad move and they lost 2 games out of three.
Now with Sylvinho Albania against Poland has scored one of the most beautiful goals of all the qualifiers,you can watch on Youtube or on Euro2024 Instagram page and this is something they never did before,scoring beautiful goals and leading the group.
I think that the coaches who have played as attackers in their football career tend to be a bit better than other coaches who have played a different role.Also Albania qualified first defying all the odds when the group were announced there were Czech Republic and Poland so nobody thought they would be first,the coach was Sylvinho a winger that most played in attack rather than his role of defense and he like Montella had a great success in these qualifiers by making history.
Italian coaches are great as they come from Serie A which is a very tactical league to play in so they know a couple more things to apply to their strategy.
Italian coaches are great as they come from Serie A which is a very tactical league to play in so they know a couple more things to apply to their strategy.
But Italy has always been famous for its good defense, strong goalkeepers and it seems that this tactic has not shown itself very well in recent years, since pressing, attacking football has an advantage, it seems to me that Guardiola can be a good example of this. But sometimes defensive tactics also bring results, representatives of such football are Simione and Mourinier, although they achieve titles less often, it still happens from time to time. So I agree with you, attacking football now brings better results.
Wales didn't manage to beat Turkey and game ended 1:1. On the other hand, Crotia managed to defeat Armenia with one goal and came out of the group as the 2nd. Thus, Croatia and Turkey qualified to participate in the EURO 2024 European Cup. So Turkey secured 2nd pot. Croatia secured 3nd pot. Türkiye finished the group qualifiers at the top for the first time.
When the groups were announced, my guess was that we would finish second at best (Türkiye). However, I was surprised and we finished top of the group. After the unsuccessful performance in the Nations League, I did not expect this good performance in the European Cup qualifiers. Montella had 3 wins and 1 draw in 4 matches with Turkey. He added a new atmosphere to the team and brought new players onto the field without fear. I think he can make great decisions and I believe he can be more successful in Turkey.I think that the coaches who have played as attackers in their football career tend to be a bit better than other coaches who have played a different role.Also Albania qualified first defying all the odds when the group were announced there were Czech Republic and Poland so nobody thought they would be first,the coach was Sylvinho a winger that most played in attack rather than his role of defense and he like Montella had a great success in these qualifiers by making history.
Italian coaches are great as they come from Serie A which is a very tactical league to play in so they know a couple more things to apply to their strategy.
Wales didn't manage to beat Turkey and game ended 1:1. On the other hand, Crotia managed to defeat Armenia with one goal and came out of the group as the 2nd. Thus, Croatia and Turkey qualified to participate in the EURO 2024 European Cup. So Turkey secured 2nd pot. Croatia secured 3nd pot. Türkiye finished the group qualifiers at the top for the first time.
When the groups were announced, my guess was that we would finish second at best (Türkiye). However, I was surprised and we finished top of the group. After the unsuccessful performance in the Nations League, I did not expect this good performance in the European Cup qualifiers. Montella had 3 wins and 1 draw in 4 matches with Turkey. He added a new atmosphere to the team and brought new players onto the field without fear. I think he can make great decisions and I believe he can be more successful in Turkey. 
Wales didn't manage to beat Turkey and game ended 1:1. On the other hand, Crotia managed to defeat Armenia with one goal and came out of the group as the 2nd. Thus, Croatia and Turkey qualified to participate in the EURO 2024 European Cup. So Turkey secured 2nd pot. Croatia secured 3nd pot. Türkiye finished the group qualifiers at the top for the first time.
Croatia won anyway so even if Wales won it wouldnt have mattered. But Croatia barely won but yet again they are on a big tournament again. Turkey really surprised me in this qualifiers with how good they played,as a reward they passed the group easily and are at a big tournament finally
In general, it was a logical result for Croatia and Turkey, because they looked better than the other teams.
Portugal national teams have perfect achievement result on UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany Qualifiers after winning all matches and scoring 36 goals with 2 conceded goals. The only one national team have perfect winning result on qualifier matches regarding other team can't win 100% match such as Spain and France miss winning one match. Currently in Group J have some strong national team such as Slovakia and Bosnia but they can't stop Portugal winning trend.
Romelu Lukaku become top scorer in UEFA Euro 2024 qualifier round after scoring 14 goals, his quattrick goals last match make him lead first standings of top scorer behind Cristiano Ronaldo on second standings position with 10 goals. Regarding impressive performance in qualifier round can't guarantee will have perfect achievement on Euro 2024 in Germany because there are have many compete national team. The host national team Germany looks not have impressive performance on several friendly match, I doubt they are favorite team will win Euro 2024 although playing on their home.
Romelu Lukaku become top scorer in UEFA Euro 2024 qualifier round after scoring 14 goals, his quattrick goals last match make him lead first standings of top scorer behind Cristiano Ronaldo on second standings position with 10 goals. Regarding impressive performance in qualifier round can't guarantee will have perfect achievement on Euro 2024 in Germany because there are have many compete national team. The host national team Germany looks not have impressive performance on several friendly match, I doubt they are favorite team will win Euro 2024 although playing on their home.
And if we look at the squads of the three national teams (Portugal, France and England). All filled with the best star players at the moment. Every player who makes up their squad is truly at their best at their respective clubs. So it is not surprising that these three national teams will be favorites at EURO 2024.
But unfortunately all the strong teams seem to be facing off early. So it is very likely that it will be very difficult to see the two favorite clubs facing each other in the Final.
But other national teams can make surprises too. For example, Belgium doesn't seem to have experienced any difficulties in the group qualifying round. Even Lukaku is the current top scorer.
But unfortunately all the strong teams seem to be facing off early. So it is very likely that it will be very difficult to see the two favorite clubs facing each other in the Final.
But other national teams can make surprises too. For example, Belgium doesn't seem to have experienced any difficulties in the group qualifying round. Even Lukaku is the current top scorer.
I would not read too much into Belgian performance during the Euro qualifiers. First of all, they were placed in a very easy group and apart from Belgium the other teams were Austria, Sweden, Azerbaijan and Estonia. Even then, they conceded two draws (against Austria and Sweden), and had a close match against Austria at Vienna which was eventually won with a margin of 2-3. Romelu Lukaku top-scored with a total of 14 goals, but the next top-scorers for Belgium were Dodi Lukebakio and Leandro Trossard with just 2 goals each.
France does seem to have a solid performance, but I see that Portugal and England are the ones that I really hope can go further. Especially Portugal, which is currently filled with young players who are very high quality and are in their best performance at the clubs they are currently working at. Cr7, who is also the captain on the field, can still make a very good contribution to his national team. And only Portugal managed to win 10 matches without a draw and without defeat in the qualifying round. And currently the English national team is also worth paying attention to. Because Kane and his friends also seem to have very good chemistry this time.
France has been performing really well in the Euro qualifiers this season. Most of the matches that France has played since the World Cup have gone in France's favor and in all of them, France has looked like an overwhelming team. England didn't finish the World Cup as they expected but the squad is strong enough with a mixture of young and experienced players and the team looks confident going into the Euro qualifiers. Portugal is currently in the best position with 100% wins. Winning all the matches before such an important tournament is not an easy task which Portugal has done. All things considered, France, England and Portugal look like huge favorites for this season.But unfortunately all the strong teams seem to be facing off early. So it is very likely that it will be very difficult to see the two favorite clubs facing each other in the Final.
But other national teams can make surprises too. For example, Belgium doesn't seem to have experienced any difficulties in the group qualifying round. Even Lukaku is the current top scorer.
Wales didn't manage to beat Turkey and game ended 1:1. On the other hand, Crotia managed to defeat Armenia with one goal and came out of the group as the 2nd. Thus, Croatia and Turkey qualified to participate in the EURO 2024 European Cup. So Turkey secured 2nd pot. Croatia secured 3nd pot. Türkiye finished the group qualifiers at the top for the first time.
Croatia won anyway so even if Wales won it wouldnt have mattered. But Croatia barely won but yet again they are on a big tournament again. Turkey really surprised me in this qualifiers with how good they played,as a reward they passed the group easily and are at a big tournament finally
If Turkey get Croatia from there in Euro 2024 just as it was in the qualifiers then it could be really interesting. 
We have played against Croatia many times before and they have been mostly delightful matches. There was a really great competition in the qualifiers for the lead until the end of the stage as well.
When it comes to our other potential opponents I hope that we don't get especially Italy as they are the last champions here. They have looked unbalanced sometimes in the qualifiers but Spalletti could prepare them strongly for Euro 2024 later on.
We have played against Croatia many times before and they have been mostly delightful matches. There was a really great competition in the qualifiers for the lead until the end of the stage as well.When it comes to our other potential opponents I hope that we don't get especially Italy as they are the last champions here. They have looked unbalanced sometimes in the qualifiers but Spalletti could prepare them strongly for Euro 2024 later on.
I am not sure what you are talking about, but it was never possible for Turkey before and after the game to drop to 3rd spot. Where did you see or find that they could drop to 3rd spot?
You are not sure because you are confusing positions in qualification groups with spots in Euro pots. If Turkey lost, it would finish 2nd in a group but in a 3rd pot but since they managed to get a draw (from that non existent penalty I must add) they ended up in the 2nd pot. Now I got it, my bad! I wrote "spot" and the reason is because I misread the post and didn't notice that they were talking about the "pot" and not the spot in this group...
I see now that since they are in pot 2, it is possible that they will face teams like the Netherlands or Croatia from pot 3. I think the Netherlands are making the biggest difference here and they could have avoided a potential group with them at the final round if they finished 2nd in the qualification group.
Thanks for the explanation! It is confusing to follow all these different ways how teams can qualify since there is also the Nations League. Feels it has become more complex than it used to be.
Well, in fact, this is a completely logical system and in fact it works 100%.
This new system is pure shit and it will only increase chances of having a very strong or a very weak group in Euro and I don't think that its anyone's interest. Thanks to the geniuses at UEFA we may have group with France, Denmark, Croatia and Italy and at the same time we could have a group with Belgium, Albania, Slovenia and Greece. They should imho just stick to seding based on FIFA ranking instead of this mess.This is how it would look like if based on FIFA ranking as of November 2023. We could still get harder and weaker groups of course, but generally speaking it would be more balanced.
Pot 1: Germany, France, England, Belgium, Netherlands, Portugal
Pot 2: Spain, Italy, Croatia, Switzerland, Denmark, Austria
Pot 3: Hungary, Serbia, Scotland, Turkey, Czech Republic, Romania
Pot 4: Slovakia, Slovenia, Albania + 3 teams from the playoff.
Gibraltar from group B lost 6-0 against the Netherlands and finished the tournament without a win. They didn't even score a goal and have one of the worst results in the group with 41 goals conceded and an average of -41. The Netherlands didn't even give them a shot in the match.
France, on the other hand, managed to draw away to Greece and come out of the group as leaders. If they had won this game they would be 8/8 but they didn't play well. Despite leading at half time, they conceded 2 goals in the first 15 minutes of the second half and fell behind 2-1. Fofana scored the decisive goal and the match ended in a 2-2 draw.
Elite teams will continue to humiliate teams that are not in good shape this season. What's wrong with an average team like Gibraltar. They just exist to give points to the competitive teams. Gibraltar lost to France 3 nil in the first leg and got really cook in the second leg with humiliating defeats of 14-0 with no goals netted on the side of Gibraltar. I believe the board are watching closely and sacking the coach should be their ultimate target because there's completely no improvement of any area, from the frontline to defendlines, they're all flops ans brings results that happens to be unpleasant to the ear. France, on the other hand, managed to draw away to Greece and come out of the group as leaders. If they had won this game they would be 8/8 but they didn't play well. Despite leading at half time, they conceded 2 goals in the first 15 minutes of the second half and fell behind 2-1. Fofana scored the decisive goal and the match ended in a 2-2 draw.
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