⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers - page 263.

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Wales didn't manage to beat Turkey and game ended 1:1. On the other hand, Crotia managed to defeat Armenia with one goal and came out of the group as the 2nd. Thus, Croatia and Turkey qualified to participate in the EURO 2024 European Cup. So Turkey secured 2nd pot. Croatia secured 3nd pot. Türkiye finished the group qualifiers at the top for the first time.

When the groups were announced, my guess was that we would finish second at best (Türkiye). However, I was surprised and we finished top of the group. After the unsuccessful performance in the Nations League, I did not expect this good performance in the European Cup qualifiers. Montella had 3 wins and 1 draw in 4 matches with Turkey. He added a new atmosphere to the team and brought new players onto the field without fear. I think he can make great decisions and I believe he can be more successful in Turkey.

I think that the coaches who have played as attackers in their football career tend to be a bit better than other coaches who have played a different role.Also Albania qualified first defying all the odds when the group were announced there were Czech Republic and Poland so nobody thought they would be first,the coach was Sylvinho a winger that most played in attack rather than his role of defense and he like Montella had a great success in these qualifiers by making history.

Italian coaches are great as they come from Serie A which is a very tactical league to play in so they know a couple more things to apply to their strategy.

I thought Turkey would not be successful in the EURO 2024 qualifying groups. And I thought he wouldn't qualify for EURO 2024. But after the sign was made with Vincenzo Montella, I believed that Turkey would participate in EURO 2024. Vincenzo Montella is a good coach. I believe that Vincenzo Montella will be successful in the EURO 2024 tournament.

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The problem is this system is very well to very little nations or teams that they dont have so much level, and they play against big one nations of football, this make the littles one level up, but in the case of the biggest one they play the games without so much effort.

Like KTC said, a lot of teams play the games like it was one more and they want to go home.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 23, 2023, 07:33:22 AM

And why do you think UEFA switched to this system? I think because, with all its disadvantages, it will now better reflect the strength of teams

On the contrary, it won't reflect the strength of the team but instead the current form which is imho a worse thing from the perspective of a fan.

Quote from: KTChampions on November 23, 2023, 07:33:22 AM

Nobody gives a damn about this tournament but the results are taken into account and this distorts the rating

The right move was to reduce the amount of friendly games instead of making that nonsense Nations League and that way those games would agffect the rating less, but UEFA is of course more intersted in making money instead what's better for football.

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Quote from: 3meek on November 23, 2023, 07:21:47 AM

Soon there will be play-off matches to qualify for the Euros...

Soon? Well, I guess that's relative! Wink

The semi-finals will take place on 21 March, while the final matches will take place five days later on 26 March 2024.^[1]

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2024_qualifying_play-offs

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Quote from: Rikafip on November 23, 2023, 06:28:47 AM

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Wow! So, if Italy plays like garbage and Albania is good, then Albania should suffer based on some crap ratings, and Italy should make a profit? And you apparently assume that this will be “in the interests of everyone”? Roll Eyes

This point of view seems a bit arrogant to me.

First of all, if Italy was a total garbage, they woulnd't even qualify for Euro. 2nd, 8 or 10 games is imho not a sample enough to determine the strength of each of the teams. Ask anyone from the Pot 1 would they rather play vs Albania or Italy on Euro and let me know.

Don't get me wrong, seeding based on FIFA ranking ain't perfect either but is imho much better than what UEFA is using as it increases chances for either too weak or too strong groups where some of the favorites might meet too early.

And why do you think UEFA switched to this system? I think because, with all its disadvantages, it will now better reflect the strength of teams - have you seen how teams play in the Nations League? Nobody gives a damn about this tournament but the results are taken into account and this distorts the rating.
And I think even more important is the question of fairness: if a team plays poorly in this particular tournament, then let it go to the basement, that’s its problem. Yes, maybe as a fan it will be more interesting for me to watch the Germany - Italy game in the playoffs, but if Italy cannot be better than Albania, then let them fall into the group of death and fight there.

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Quote from: armanda90 on November 23, 2023, 01:11:41 AM

Portugal national teams have perfect achievement result on UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany Qualifiers after winning all matches and scoring 36 goals with 2 conceded goals. The only one national team have perfect winning result on qualifier matches regarding other team can't win 100% match such as Spain and France miss winning one match. Currently in Group J have some strong national team such as Slovakia and Bosnia but they can't stop Portugal winning trend.

Romelu Lukaku become top scorer in UEFA Euro 2024 qualifier round after scoring 14 goals, his quattrick goals last match make him lead first standings of top scorer behind Cristiano Ronaldo on second standings position with 10 goals. Regarding impressive performance in qualifier round can't guarantee will have perfect achievement on Euro 2024 in Germany because there are have many compete national team. The host national team Germany looks not have impressive performance on several friendly match, I doubt they are favorite team will win Euro 2024 although playing on their home.

Portugal had a 100% match win rate on their way to EURO 2024. Roberto Martinez has really improved this side and he’s grateful and has also utilized the quality players in his squad, this record of 10 of 10 wins is Portugal solidifying their status as a formidable force in Europe, they’ve got better counterparts such as France who could probably have same 100% record if they’ll defeat Greece but with or without, France proves to also be a top contender for the EURO Cup.

Lukaku is a fine striker who’s been proving his worth especially when his outside the shores of England and he’s doing that while playing in the EUROS by becoming top scorer of the tournament, In his last match, he had 4 goals as Belgium put in 5 against Azberjain, well this is the qualifier and successes there doesn’t amount to success in the main tournament as we could face surprises from smaller teams.

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Soon there will be play-off matches to qualify for the Euros... Poland will play Estonia, Ukraine vs Bosnia, Wales vs Finland, Israel vs Iceland... Of all these teams it seems to me that Poland will definitely win... I have my doubts about the others...

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 23, 2023, 03:35:05 AM

Wow! So, if Italy plays like garbage and Albania is good, then Albania should suffer based on some crap ratings, and Italy should make a profit? And you apparently assume that this will be “in the interests of everyone”? Roll Eyes

This point of view seems a bit arrogant to me.

First of all, if Italy was a total garbage, they woulnd't even qualify for Euro. 2nd, 8 or 10 games is imho not a sample enough to determine the strength of each of the teams. Ask anyone from the Pot 1 would they rather play vs Albania or Italy on Euro and let me know.

Don't get me wrong, seeding based on FIFA ranking ain't perfect either but is imho much better than what UEFA is using as it increases chances for either too weak or too strong groups where some of the favorites might meet too early.

Quote from: SquirrelJulietGarden on November 23, 2023, 06:28:21 AM

Croatia team should not rely on Modric or Perisic too much because they are very old players. I can not deny they are great players with magical skills and massive achievements in their career with clubs and Croatian national team but ageing does not avoid any player.

Since they are still our best players, there's not much option other than use them as much as you can. Keep in mind that we are a small country with less than 4 million people so our pool of players is not as deep as many of the other top countries.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on November 23, 2023, 04:22:47 AM

Nope, we're crap. I'll put all my money on us not getting out of the group, no matter what kind of group we get.
We had a great midfield that covered both the shitty defence and slow and static attack, now our midfield is horrible as well.

Modrić can't keep a consistent level, Brozović is awful and Kovačić is decent, but never really excelled for the national team.
We're without Perišić, with Kramarić as our only reliable offensive option, and with Šutalo in horrible form we don't know who'll be playing with Gvardiol in defence.

We lack directness, width and depth all across the pitch, I'm not looking forward to the Euros at all.

Croatia team should not rely on Modric or Perisic too much because they are very old players. I can not deny they are great players with magical skills and massive achievements in their career with clubs and Croatian national team but ageing does not avoid any player.

Croatia can use those players at appropriate times when their coach see those players can maximize their appearances with best effects they can do. With less appearances and less contributions from Modric and Perisic, Croatia is a team with serious lack of creativeness in attacking. The team have a good system with players unite together as an actual team but to have goals against opponents, they need creativeness and deadly key passes from players like Modric and Perisic.

So far in Croatia, I hardly see young players who can replace these two legendary players.

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Quote from: Gencecikmen on November 22, 2023, 03:46:09 PM

Wales didn't manage to beat Turkey and game ended 1:1. On the other hand, Crotia managed to defeat Armenia with one goal and came out of the group as the 2nd. Thus, Croatia and Turkey qualified to participate in the EURO 2024 European Cup. So Turkey secured 2nd pot. Croatia secured 3nd pot. Türkiye finished the group qualifiers at the top for the first time.

The Turkish team performed admirably in qualifying matches, placing first in their group. This is significant credit for them for finishing ahead of a big team like Croatia. They played eight matches, winning five, drawing two, and losing one, finishing with 17 points, one point more than Croatia. They will go far in the competition if they perform as well as they did in the qualifiers, but that does not offer them a high hope or sense of winning the trophy ahead of the many big teams who will be competing. We only have to wait for the final draws and the groups that each of the qualifying teams will be assigned to, by then we can have a better forecast and good predictions of how the competition will go for them.

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Quote from: Gencecikmen on November 22, 2023, 03:46:09 PM

Wales didn't manage to beat Turkey and game ended 1:1. On the other hand, Crotia managed to defeat Armenia with one goal and came out of the group as the 2nd. Thus, Croatia and Turkey qualified to participate in the EURO 2024 European Cup. So Turkey secured 2nd pot. Croatia secured 3nd pot. Türkiye finished the group qualifiers at the top for the first time.

Wales' last 2 matches did not go well which made them finally have to be willing to be in 3rd place and could not qualify for the next phase because Croatia's last 2 matches ended with a victory.

This is obviously very regrettable especially with what Wales did actually quite well at the beginning and they were in second place but they could not maintain it.

With the results we have now we can see the clubs that qualify for the Euro in Germany 2024 and there are names of Scotland and Albania that I think are interesting for this Euro.

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Quote from: Unsoldier on November 22, 2023, 08:34:39 AM

In my opinion, Croatia is one of the strongest teams in the world. They have consistently been in the top four strongest teams at the last two World Cups. Modric is the strongest player in the world and he is Croatian. But in this qualifying tournament the team did not show a bright game, but still they reached the final stage of the tournament. I hope Croatia will show more spectacular and interesting soccer at Euro-24.

Nope, we're crap. I'll put all my money on us not getting out of the group, no matter what kind of group we get.
We had a great midfield that covered both the shitty defence and slow and static attack, now our midfield is horrible as well.

Modrić can't keep a consistent level, Brozović is awful and Kovačić is decent, but never really excelled for the national team.
We're without Perišić, with Kramarić as our only reliable offensive option, and with Šutalo in horrible form we don't know who'll be playing with Gvardiol in defence.

We lack directness, width and depth all across the pitch, I'm not looking forward to the Euros at all.

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Well, in fact, this is a completely logical system and in fact it works 100%.

This new system is pure shit and it will only increase chances of having a very strong or a very weak group in Euro and I don't think that its anyone's interest. Thanks to the geniuses at UEFA we may have group with France, Denmark, Croatia and Italy and at the same time we could have a group with Belgium, Albania, Slovenia and Greece. They should imho just stick to seding based on FIFA ranking instead of this mess.

This is how it would look like if based on FIFA ranking as of November 2023. We could still get harder and weaker groups of course, but generally speaking it would be more balanced.

Pot 1: Germany, France, England, Belgium, Netherlands, Portugal
Pot 2: Spain, Italy, Croatia, Switzerland, Denmark, Austria
Pot 3: Hungary, Serbia, Scotland, Turkey, Czech Republic, Romania
Pot 4: Slovakia, Slovenia, Albania + 3 teams from the playoff.

Wow! So, if Italy plays like garbage and Albania is good, then Albania should suffer based on some crap ratings, and Italy should make a profit? And you apparently assume that this will be “in the interests of everyone”? Roll Eyes

This point of view seems a bit arrogant to me.
For the first time in a long time, UEFA did something reasonable, and you are defending the old corrupt system that increased the advantage of already strong teams and oppressed the weak ones due to some crap ratings based on games that had nothing to do with the tournament at all.

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I think that the coaches who have played as attackers in their football career tend to be a bit better than other coaches who have played a different role.Also Albania qualified first defying all the odds when the group were announced there were Czech Republic and Poland so nobody thought they would be first,the coach was Sylvinho a winger that most played in attack rather than his role of defense and he like Montella had a great success in these qualifiers by making history.

Italian coaches are great as they come from Serie A which is a very tactical league to play in so they know a couple more things to apply to their strategy.

But Italy has always been famous for its good defense, strong goalkeepers and it seems that this tactic has not shown itself very well in recent years, since pressing, attacking football has an advantage, it seems to me that Guardiola can be a good example of this. But sometimes defensive tactics also bring results, representatives of such football are Simione and Mourinier, although they achieve titles less often, it still happens from time to time. So I agree with you, attacking football now brings better results.

I will again take an example from Albania,first time when they qualified for the Euros in 2016 the coach was an Italian guy,Gianni De Biasi and I don't know what role he had as a player but he strongly played in defense and counter attacks which made the qualification and as second in the group with a very much controversial way of playing,it turned out in the Euro it was a bad move and they lost 2 games out of three.

Now with Sylvinho Albania against Poland has scored one of the most beautiful goals of all the qualifiers,you can watch on Youtube or on Euro2024 Instagram page and this is something they never did before,scoring beautiful goals and leading the group.

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Quote from: swogerino on November 23, 2023, 02:32:41 AM

I think that the coaches who have played as attackers in their football career tend to be a bit better than other coaches who have played a different role.Also Albania qualified first defying all the odds when the group were announced there were Czech Republic and Poland so nobody thought they would be first,the coach was Sylvinho a winger that most played in attack rather than his role of defense and he like Montella had a great success in these qualifiers by making history.

Italian coaches are great as they come from Serie A which is a very tactical league to play in so they know a couple more things to apply to their strategy.

But Italy has always been famous for its good defense, strong goalkeepers and it seems that this tactic has not shown itself very well in recent years, since pressing, attacking football has an advantage, it seems to me that Guardiola can be a good example of this. But sometimes defensive tactics also bring results, representatives of such football are Simione and Mourinier, although they achieve titles less often, it still happens from time to time. So I agree with you, attacking football now brings better results.

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Quote from: Phoenix Anka on November 23, 2023, 01:54:51 AM

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Wales didn't manage to beat Turkey and game ended 1:1. On the other hand, Crotia managed to defeat Armenia with one goal and came out of the group as the 2nd. Thus, Croatia and Turkey qualified to participate in the EURO 2024 European Cup. So Turkey secured 2nd pot. Croatia secured 3nd pot. Türkiye finished the group qualifiers at the top for the first time.

When the groups were announced, my guess was that we would finish second at best (Türkiye). However, I was surprised and we finished top of the group. After the unsuccessful performance in the Nations League, I did not expect this good performance in the European Cup qualifiers. Montella had 3 wins and 1 draw in 4 matches with Turkey. He added a new atmosphere to the team and brought new players onto the field without fear. I think he can make great decisions and I believe he can be more successful in Turkey.

I think that the coaches who have played as attackers in their football career tend to be a bit better than other coaches who have played a different role.Also Albania qualified first defying all the odds when the group were announced there were Czech Republic and Poland so nobody thought they would be first,the coach was Sylvinho a winger that most played in attack rather than his role of defense and he like Montella had a great success in these qualifiers by making history.

Italian coaches are great as they come from Serie A which is a very tactical league to play in so they know a couple more things to apply to their strategy.

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Quote from: Gencecikmen on November 22, 2023, 03:46:09 PM

Wales didn't manage to beat Turkey and game ended 1:1. On the other hand, Crotia managed to defeat Armenia with one goal and came out of the group as the 2nd. Thus, Croatia and Turkey qualified to participate in the EURO 2024 European Cup. So Turkey secured 2nd pot. Croatia secured 3nd pot. Türkiye finished the group qualifiers at the top for the first time.

When the groups were announced, my guess was that we would finish second at best (Türkiye). However, I was surprised and we finished top of the group. After the unsuccessful performance in the Nations League, I did not expect this good performance in the European Cup qualifiers. Montella had 3 wins and 1 draw in 4 matches with Turkey. He added a new atmosphere to the team and brought new players onto the field without fear. I think he can make great decisions and I believe he can be more successful in Turkey.

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Wales didn't manage to beat Turkey and game ended 1:1. On the other hand, Crotia managed to defeat Armenia with one goal and came out of the group as the 2nd. Thus, Croatia and Turkey qualified to participate in the EURO 2024 European Cup. So Turkey secured 2nd pot. Croatia secured 3nd pot. Türkiye finished the group qualifiers at the top for the first time.

Croatia won anyway so even if Wales won it wouldnt have mattered. But Croatia barely won but yet again they are on a big tournament again. Turkey really surprised me in this qualifiers with how good they played,as a reward they passed the group easily and are at a big tournament finally

Croatia made it difficult for themselves, but they were the leaders of the group and could go to the Euro 3 rounds earlier, defeat at home had to solve everything in the last round and the score was 1 : 0 and if Armenia had scored a goal, Wales could have beaten Croatia, if they had won, but Wales also played in a draw
In general, it was a logical result for Croatia and Turkey, because they looked better than the other teams.

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Portugal national teams have perfect achievement result on UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany Qualifiers after winning all matches and scoring 36 goals with 2 conceded goals. The only one national team have perfect winning result on qualifier matches regarding other team can't win 100% match such as Spain and France miss winning one match. Currently in Group J have some strong national team such as Slovakia and Bosnia but they can't stop Portugal winning trend.

Romelu Lukaku become top scorer in UEFA Euro 2024 qualifier round after scoring 14 goals, his quattrick goals last match make him lead first standings of top scorer behind Cristiano Ronaldo on second standings position with 10 goals. Regarding impressive performance in qualifier round can't guarantee will have perfect achievement on Euro 2024 in Germany because there are have many compete national team. The host national team Germany looks not have impressive performance on several friendly match, I doubt they are favorite team will win Euro 2024 although playing on their home.

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Quote from: BRINIRHA on November 22, 2023, 09:11:29 PM

And if we look at the squads of the three national teams (Portugal, France and England). All filled with the best star players at the moment. Every player who makes up their squad is truly at their best at their respective clubs. So it is not surprising that these three national teams will be favorites at EURO 2024.

But unfortunately all the strong teams seem to be facing off early. So it is very likely that it will be very difficult to see the two favorite clubs facing each other in the Final.

But other national teams can make surprises too. For example, Belgium doesn't seem to have experienced any difficulties in the group qualifying round. Even Lukaku is the current top scorer.

I would not read too much into Belgian performance during the Euro qualifiers. First of all, they were placed in a very easy group and apart from Belgium the other teams were Austria, Sweden, Azerbaijan and Estonia. Even then, they conceded two draws (against Austria and Sweden), and had a close match against Austria at Vienna which was eventually won with a margin of 2-3. Romelu Lukaku top-scored with a total of 14 goals, but the next top-scorers for Belgium were Dodi Lukebakio and Leandro Trossard with just 2 goals each.

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