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Quote from: Velvet78 on September 09, 2023, 05:01:26 PM

North Macedonia have really become a nightmare for Italy in the recent years. Because first their elimination by them in the World Cup qualification phase and now this result in the qualifiers for Euro 2024 this time. That goal came in the last ten minutes ruined Italy's plans and they couldn't answer in the same way.

Group C had some unusual results
England theoretically should have beaten Ukraine and only drew, to their credit
And Italy should have beaten Macedonia without too much difficulty, but as you said, Macedonia was a big problem for Italy, and took away their chance of qualifying for the World Cup.
Italy are running a serious risk of not qualifying for the Euro, and it would be horrible for the country. It already missed out on the last World Cup

It's amazing to follow Italy's instability. They manage to win a Euro, fail to qualify for the World Cup, then finish third in the Nations League, and may not even qualify for the Euro

It's a team that must be making a lot of bettors lose their bets hehe

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Quote from: QueenVera on September 09, 2023, 05:50:19 PM

Quote from: Sexylizzy2813 on September 09, 2023, 05:03:28 PM

I don't expect England to even play out a draw in this encounter because they're the favorite and the 3 Lions have all they needed to come out victorious with all 3pt, imagine them struggling to win against the Ukraine national team. It was as if both teams are of the same strength, well I'm judging base on the kind of world class players the 3Lions have and they couldn't dominate.
When I see the England team score just a goal or two in a game that they ought to score more than 3 goals it just reminds me of the France team, and is annoying to gambling investors as the case maybe.
I just believe they (England) have a plan in their next match and not to end in a draw.

I alot of people are very annoyed with the result of this game cause they've made people that bet on them to lose money, I didn't expect them to have such performance as well, they've got a squad full of top talents and it should be very easy to win against the Ukraine team but they really struggled and managed to equalize unlike England, what I expect from them is to be leading with about two goals from the first half and even though Ukraine scored the opener, a come back should be hard due to the quality players they have.
However I'm very impressed with how the Arsenal left back player Zinchenko represented his country he played very brilliantly and help them score the opener, it's so nice how he's passed from Mancity under Pep Guardiola to Arteta at Arsenal and has developed into a very fine player.

The issue with this England team is too much of hyping and they easily underrate teams that they know quite alright that they'd beat without introducing some of their big names on the mix.
Too bad for the 3 Lions and with this kind of play or should I say behavior towards lower rank team, I feel it will have to cost them when the time comes to showcase what they have.
And kudos to Ukraine for tireless efforts in hold England to a draw, it wasn't easy to face a team with so much talent and still set a match with them, I can't say more than congratulations to the Ukraine national team.

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Quote from: X-ray on September 09, 2023, 06:50:37 PM

My main concern was on how mudryk was getting by one against meguire and kyle walker. I saw that how mudryk was always running without knowing the direction to pass england's defender. I do agree if england has been missing a lot of opportunities.
Ukraine was always supplying the ball for mudryk but this guy rarely able in passing kyle walker when it came to the 1 on 1. What an entertaining match to see meguire vs mudryk as well. Cheesy

I never thought if meguire would be playing in this game against ukraine. Seeing meguire try to prevent mudryk from running is a very entertaining thing.

Talking about Harry Maguire,he's a very big flop and has been warming the bench for Manchester United almost throughout last season but he keeps getting called the coach and is still the England captain despite the last of playing time he gets I wonder what Gareth Southgate sees in Maguire or the relationship they had that would make him call him to the team when there are lots of players better than him, it was so funny how he marked his own player, creating space for Zinchenko to put the ball into the net what a funny match, watching both players underperform for their countries was so entertaining, however mudryk was a very fine player at Shaktar Donetak but have been underperforming since he got transferred to Chelsea and it's very bad for his career because he was a prospect that everyone were looking upto to develop better at England.

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Quote from: snipie on September 09, 2023, 06:21:59 PM

I don't know if I could say that today's matches results are funny or sad! Since they all finished with a draw!
Ukraine 1 - 1 England. Ok Ukraine isn't a bad team and they are quite challenging but England was surprised with an early goal and they cannot secure more than a draw.. They are lucky Ukraine didn't have serious opportunities otherwise they would be in trouble.

My main concern was on how mudryk was getting by one against meguire and kyle walker. I saw that how mudryk was always running without knowing the direction to pass england's defender. I do agree if england has been missing a lot of opportunities.
Ukraine was always supplying the ball for mudryk but this guy rarely able in passing kyle walker when it came to the 1 on 1. What an entertaining match to see meguire vs mudryk as well. Cheesy

I never thought if meguire would be playing in this game against ukraine. Seeing meguire try to prevent mudryk from running is a very entertaining thing.

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England and Italy surprised me, both teams drew with easy opponents.

Belgium won with some difficulty, Sweden had a very comfortable win.

I expected Switzerland to win but they drew.

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I don't know if I could say that today's matches results are funny or sad! Since they all finished with a draw!
Ukraine 1 - 1 England. Ok Ukraine isn't a bad team and they are quite challenging but England was surprised with an early goal and they cannot secure more than a draw.. They are lucky Ukraine didn't have serious opportunities otherwise they would be in trouble.
North Macedonia 1 - 1 Italy. This time is worse since North Macedonia isn't good at all and lost with 7 goals vs England in their previous match!
Switzerland was the other disappointment for tonight, they couldn't keep their advantage until the end of the game and they received the equalizer goal at the very end of the match.. The other two games played are already random Lips sealed

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Quote from: Sexylizzy2813 on September 09, 2023, 05:03:28 PM

I don't expect England to even play out a draw in this encounter because they're the favorite and the 3 Lions have all they needed to come out victorious with all 3pt, imagine them struggling to win against the Ukraine national team. It was as if both teams are of the same strength, well I'm judging base on the kind of world class players the 3Lions have and they couldn't dominate.
When I see the England team score just a goal or two in a game that they ought to score more than 3 goals it just reminds me of the France team, and is annoying to gambling investors as the case maybe.
I just believe they (England) have a plan in their next match and not to end in a draw.

I alot of people are very annoyed with the result of this game cause they've made people that bet on them to lose money, I didn't expect them to have such performance as well, they've got a squad full of top talents and it should be very easy to win against the Ukraine team but they really struggled and managed to equalize unlike England, what I expect from them is to be leading with about two goals from the first half and even though Ukraine scored the opener, a come back should be hard due to the quality players they have.
However I'm very impressed with how the Arsenal left back player Zinchenko represented his country he played very brilliantly and help them score the opener, it's so nice how he's passed from Mancity under Pep Guardiola to Arteta at Arsenal and has developed into a very fine player.

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Quote from: Ryu_Ar1 on September 09, 2023, 04:41:23 PM

It would be funny if a club played a game and didn't want to win.
England tried a few chances but in the end Ukraine also played very well in this match which made England unable to develop their attacks despite several attempts and substitutions but they failed to maximise with their dominance.
However, they are still comfortable in their current position and it is quite interesting to see the competition for the second place I guess because for the first place, England is definitely there but for the second place, Italy and Ukraine still have a chance to prove themselves.

I don't expect England to even play out a draw in this encounter because they're the favorite and the 3 Lions have all they needed to come out victorious with all 3pt, imagine them struggling to win against the Ukraine national team. It was as if both teams are of the same strength, well I'm judging base on the kind of world class players the 3Lions have and they couldn't dominate.
When I see the England team score just a goal or two in a game that they ought to score more than 3 goals it just reminds me of the France team, and is annoying to gambling investors as the case maybe.
I just believe they (England) have a plan in their next match and not to end in a draw.

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North Macedonia have really become a nightmare for Italy in the recent years. Because first their elimination by them in the World Cup qualification phase and now this result in the qualifiers for Euro 2024 this time. That goal came in the last ten minutes ruined Italy's plans and they couldn't answer in the same way.

I don't know how they do it but it seems like North Macedonia have figured out how to deal with a much stronger team like Italy. But there is still no problem for Italy in the group as there are many more games to play. They can still easily get past Ukraine in a couple of games.

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Quote from: Bananington on September 09, 2023, 04:07:11 PM

Quote from: bayu7adi on September 09, 2023, 03:47:01 PM

FT ::: Macedonia 1 - 1 Italy
In terms of ball control, Italy clearly outperforms North Macedonia, but when it comes to their offensive line, North Macedonia proves to be more effective.

Just as England stopped many people from winning their bets on them today as they drew their game, Italy has done the same. How do you not protect your one goal lead especially when you know that you need the points and it is a tough game.

Italy messed up.

It's a very bad result for the Italians to draw a game that they were expected to win and boost their hopes of qualifying for the 2024 UEFA Euros finals. Getting just four points out of a possible nine isn't a result that the Italian national team needs in a group that consists of big teams like England and Ukraine national teams. I don't know how they got here but if they don't improve in their performances, Italy might not be defending their title the European championship next summer

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Quote from: Unknown01 on September 09, 2023, 02:44:32 PM

I had the feeling that England didn't really want to win. With 13 points they have secured first place in the group and with a draw they could potentially eliminate a stronger opponent like Italy. It's not a stupid idea. Who knows whether they might meet Italy later after qualifying and have problems with them.

It would be funny if a club played a game and didn't want to win.
England tried a few chances but in the end Ukraine also played very well in this match which made England unable to develop their attacks despite several attempts and substitutions but they failed to maximise with their dominance.
However, they are still comfortable in their current position and it is quite interesting to see the competition for the second place I guess because for the first place, England is definitely there but for the second place, Italy and Ukraine still have a chance to prove themselves.

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Quote from: bayu7adi on September 09, 2023, 03:47:01 PM

FT ::: Macedonia 1 - 1 Italy
In terms of ball control, Italy clearly outperforms North Macedonia, but when it comes to their offensive line, North Macedonia proves to be more effective.

The equalizing goal occurred in the 81st minute through a free-kick by the captain, leveling the score at 1-1 until the end of the match. Italy currently sits in 3rd place in Group C, with still a chance to advance as the group's runner-up.

North Macedonia is a real curse for Italy - I remind you that in the semi-finals of the European selection it was North Macedonia that beat Italy and did not let them into the final where they could get a ticket in the battle with Portugal. It would seem that after such a background, the score today should be 10-0 in favor of Italy, but only 1-1 and their chance of qualifying from the group is decreasing.
On September 12, in the Italy - Ukraine game, we will most likely find out who will take second place in the group.

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Quote from: bayu7adi on September 09, 2023, 03:47:01 PM

FT ::: Macedonia 1 - 1 Italy
In terms of ball control, Italy clearly outperforms North Macedonia, but when it comes to their offensive line, North Macedonia proves to be more effective.

Just as England stopped many people from winning their bets on them today as they drew their game, Italy has done the same. How do you not protect your one goal lead especially when you know that you need the points and it is a tough game.

Italy messed up.

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Quote from: flipme on September 09, 2023, 03:42:54 PM

I have always supported Kuntz because I think stability is an important concept, but yesterday he made really wrong line-up choices. Baris Alper is not a center forward. He played as a center forward for Galatasaray for a few games. Baris Alper normally plays right wing or left wing. He made a mistake by assigning Barış Alper in the striker area. Cenk Özkaçar is also not a left back. He also assigned him to the left back position. Kuntz should be blamed for yesterday's match. He made wrong choices. He has exhausted his credit in my eyes. Fatih Terim or Sergen Yalçın could be ideal coaches for the national team. The federation should take action before the tournament starts.

I couldn't even believe how Kuntz made a statement in post-match interview like that. He said that they could have won if they scored one more goal. This is all you can really say after this poor performance? His statement after the match and this performance both should be enough for a reason to sack him honestly.

Abdullah Avci is expected to be replaced with Kuntz soon. I would have expected Fatih Terim to be offered the job to be honest. However it would still be good to have a Turkish coach rather than a foreign one. Foreign coach thing doesn't work with the national team clearly.

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on September 09, 2023, 03:18:17 PM

Just a few minutes after your post, Italy has scored maybe they heard what you said Cheesy

Italy needs more points to move up to 2nd place they will not miss the opportunity before playing against England, in this match Italy could lose or draw.

FT ::: Macedonia 1 - 1 Italy
In terms of ball control, Italy clearly outperforms North Macedonia, but when it comes to their offensive line, North Macedonia proves to be more effective.

The equalizing goal occurred in the 81st minute through a free-kick by the captain, leveling the score at 1-1 until the end of the match. Italy currently sits in 3rd place in Group C, with still a chance to advance as the group's runner-up.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on September 08, 2023, 05:30:13 PM

Fatih Terim can really take over once again as he is like the best candidate for the job now. Even if Turkey manage to qualify for Euro 2024 with this system I don't expect much thing from them there. They need a better team play than this.

I have always supported Kuntz because I think stability is an important concept, but yesterday he made really wrong line-up choices. Baris Alper is not a center forward. He played as a center forward for Galatasaray for a few games. Baris Alper normally plays right wing or left wing. He made a mistake by assigning Barış Alper in the striker area. Cenk Özkaçar is also not a left back. He also assigned him to the left back position. Kuntz should be blamed for yesterday's match. He made wrong choices. He has exhausted his credit in my eyes. Fatih Terim or Sergen Yalçın could be ideal coaches for the national team. The federation should take action before the tournament starts.

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on September 09, 2023, 03:18:17 PM

Just a few minutes after your post, Italy has scored maybe they heard what you said Cheesy

Italy needs more points to move up to 2nd place they will not miss the opportunity before playing against England, in this match Italy could lose or draw.

This game is more of a tougher fixture in real life than it looks online especially betting on the number of goals. When you see North Macedonia, you can just write them off, a team with no familiar name, but in performance, they are giving the Italians a hard time to win. Just one goal for Italy, but they are not still safe because it can easily be lost if the North Macedonians fins a chance to score. The game ends in a few minutes, Italy will have to do all they can to hang on.

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Quote from: Bananington on September 09, 2023, 02:23:46 PM

Quote from: casperBGD on September 09, 2023, 01:28:35 PM

England failed to win today, but maybe just gives a headsup to Ukraine to fight Italy for position 2, England is almost secure to pass qualifications, and they don't need to sweat much

Gareth Southgate will know that his job is hanging on a thread, if he disappoints further. England drawing with Ukraine was not a result expected for England even though they still have a great chance of qualifying for the competition. For a team with their standard, they are expected to be winning every game.

As for Ukraine, It is a blessing that they have Zichenko, Mudryk was just running around till he got injured.

Ukraine would have been 2nd in the group if England had lost this match, there is a big possibility that Ukraine could beat Italy. Difficult group for Italy. I thought this match would be 7-0 or something. Just Harry Kane, Saka, Bellingham, Declan Rice are enough for that team to make the difference, but they didn't this time. Even though the men are at war, the football is very good. I can't imagine how the country is even continuing the normal stuff like this football game. Not only they still do, but also they got a point from England. That is highly respectable.

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Quote from: Unknown01 on September 09, 2023, 02:44:32 PM

I had the feeling that England didn't really want to win. With 13 points they have secured first place in the group and with a draw they could potentially eliminate a stronger opponent like Italy. It's not a stupid idea. Who knows whether they might meet Italy later after qualifying and have problems with them.

I think so too but the reason is not to get rid of Italy or avoid them because Italy is definitely trying hard, especially since its competitors are not strong opponents I'm sure Italy will finish as runners up, the most reasonable is that England to avoid injuries in unimportant matches, on October 18 England and Italy will face each other.

Quote from: coinlocket$ on September 09, 2023, 02:45:19 PM

Still 0-0 for Italy after the 1st half.

They have a new coach now but the story is the same, bad plays and bad results.

Just a few minutes after your post, Italy has scored maybe they heard what you said Cheesy

Italy needs more points to move up to 2nd place they will not miss the opportunity before playing against England, in this match Italy could lose or draw.

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Still 0-0 for Italy after the 1st half.

They have a new coach now but the story is the same, bad plays and bad results.

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